Updated History of the San Jose Sharks, 2019 Edition

[@uncensorer]

8:15 "I would lean towards Erik Karlsson" Logan Couture: Am I a joke to you?

[@fabriziolorenzo2392]

Cinemaker Yeah, I'd give the C to Couture. Karlsson already has enough pressure coming off two injury riddled seasons and living up to his contract.

[@matthewdaley746]

@@fabriziolorenzo2392 I don't know why he wouldn't become Captain.

[@209alfredo2091]

Couture will be captain

[@matthewdaley746]

He should be Captain.

[@matthewdaley746]

@Spencer Herren Someone had to be the new man.

[@A.stallion27]

went to SJ for a hockey game in the shark tank ! loved the experience and i really had hoped they would have won in 2016, heres to hoping one day the sharks win the cup !

[@matthewdaley746]

They just have the worst luck imaginable.

[@Xerxsion]

@@matthewdaley746 Well, they got 3 VERY lucky and the 3 most controversial calls last playoffs to be their favor. In past seasons though they just lose steam once they get to the 2nd-3rd round. Yes they do have bad luck at times but that's far from the reason why they can't put and end to the curse. Goaltending has also never been completely stellar for the Sharks as well. I'm not sure if they've ever had a Vezina finalist goaltender which likely could have helped them a ton.

[@zilvertron]

@@Xerxsion The problem with the Sharks is their strategy. During regular season its all about the offence, and they are good at it. Even winning Presidents trophy when Detroit was scary good with Fedorov and Yzerman being goal hungry bastards eventually leading Detroit to win it all, while the Sharks changing strategy to defence during playoffs, even though they truly suck at it and clearly not practiced it as much as what they did during regular season

[@Xerxsion]

@@zilvertron They need a coach like Trotz, Quenville or Torts to give them a proper game plan to always stick to. I agree entire with you, they're just too inconsistent to get anywhere and it looks like they're golden opportunity to finally win it all may have past... But who knows anything can happen

[@laxg64]

@@zilvertron jesus, what an accurate and succinct reason as so why they cant win a cup.

[@PancakesAndHammers2426]

Nabokov was fun to watch. A lot of great saves and my favorite player from the San Jose Sharks.

[@NoSuccGaming]

you got the karlsson trade incorrect. The sharks only gave up their 2020 first round pick, 2019 second round pick and 2021 second round pick. The conditions were (per capfriendly): Sens receive a 1st round pick from the Sharks (no later than 2022) if Karlsson is on an Eastern Conference roster (reserve list) during the 2018-19 season. This condition was not met so no pick was given. Ottawa receives Sharks 2019 1st round pick if Sharks do not make the playoffs. If Sharks make the playoffs, Ottawa receives Sharks 2020 1st. Sharks made the 2019 playoffs so Ottawa gets the 2020 first round pick Sens receive Sharks 2021 2nd round pick if Karlsson is re-signed. The selection upgrades to a 2021 1st if Sharks reach the Stanley Cup final in 2019. Sharks did not make the finals so this is only a 2021 second round pick And finally whichever 2019 second round pick between their own and florida's which was higher goes to the sens. So the actual trade was: Erik Karlsson and Francis Perron for Chris Tierney, Dylan DeMelo, Rudolfs Balcers, Josh Norris, a 2019 Second, a 2020 First, and a 2021 Second

[@Yabudabadoo]

Big difference tbh

[@Bloodfury96]

The only pieces I am upset about are Norris, and the 1st rounder this coming season. But it's Erik freaking Karlsson so I am okay with it.

[@NoSuccGaming]

@@Bloodfury96 i agree .. if norris pans out it sucks but could be worse! And aslong as we are a playoff team the first rounder is not a big deal to me

[@matthewdaley746]

@@NoSuccGaming You're not good enough to win the Cup, it's MUCH better long-term for you to miss the Playoffs.

[@NickJennings]

@@matthewdaley7464 years later, Stutzle and Norris would have been real nice in teal right about now.

[@Defy5]

Makarov still one of my favourite players all time. When I played street hockeyas a kid I pretended I was either Makarov, Gretzky or Hakan Loob.

[@luc6544]

no way karlsson is the captain... it's gonna be couture!

[@matthewdaley746]

Couture should definitely become Captain.

[@lelouchvibritannia4028]

Agreed. He was a beast in the playoffs, especially against Vegas.

[@matthewdaley746]

@@lelouchvibritannia4028 Vegas ran out of good fortune.

[@H3M1678]

Sharks only gave up 1 1st round pick for Erik Karlsson. The other two were conditional. The conditions were not met so San Jose kept them.

[@pite9]

How many days did it take to write all of that text?

[@TokyoYankee]

THG: "No...no Stanley Cup(s).." Me: *MURDERED BY SADNESS* But in all seriousness I love this team, I really one day hope so have SJ Sharks off the team that has no Stanley Cups, with the Blues off that list.. its kinda getting lonely on that list.

[@IcebreakerMHWilds]

Thank you for all that you do, Shannon!

[@JHockeyFan]

3:00, you should do a TEG video on the MLS overexpansion and whether or not it is a ponzi scheme.

[@EvanEscher]

Yes

[@matthewdaley746]

@@EvanEscher MLS expanded WAY too fast.

[@Nickleblanc41]

Buffalo actually traded the San Jose draft pick to Anaheim for Montour, Anaheim picked Brayden Tracey with that pick

[@lelouchvibritannia4028]

My 2nd favorite team. I always thought they suffered the most until I found out that the Blues have been to the playoffs more than any team in franchise history.

[@matthewdaley746]

What team was your favorite then?

[@mendelsonja]

@@matthewdaley746 Educated guess based on his avatar, I'm going to say the Avalanche.

[@matthewdaley746]

@@mendelsonja Excellent choice!

[@lelouchvibritannia4028]

@@mendelsonja You're goddamn right.

[@matthewdaley746]

@@lelouchvibritannia4028 I like them because the beat the Red Wings, but, I LOVE them because they beat the Devils.

[@OttawaNow]

2020 UPDATE! SAN JOSE SHARKS HOCKEY HALL OF FAME INDUCTEES 01. 2008: Igor Larionov 02. 2011: Ed Belfour 03. 2014: Rob Blake 04. 2016: Sergei Makarov 05. 2017: Teemu Selanne 06. 2020: Doug Wilson

[@Nickleblanc41]

The 2019 1st round pick in the Karlsson trade was change to a 2020 1st round pick because San Jose made the playoffs in 2019 and had to send their first round pick to Buffalo instead who then traded that pick to Anaheim for Brandon Montour... And people thought the Brassard to Pittsburgh trade was complicated. The 2022 first round pick was conditional if Karlsson was traded back to the Eastern Conference.

[@TheHockeyGuy]

The Senators get the 2022 first because the Sharks re-signed him. It would have been a second otherwise.

[@Nickleblanc41]

@@TheHockeyGuy According to cap friendly the Sens would've got a 2021 1st if the Sharks had resigned Karlsson and made the 2019 Stanley Cup Final, but since the Blues decided to kill my bracket in the 3rd round, the Senators only get a 2021 2nd round pick. Like I said its a very confusing trade.

[@matthewdaley746]

@@Nickleblanc41 One of a great very many.

[@mcfleury]

Tim Heed for captain 2019

[@isaiahwince4261]

McFleury 😂😂

[@matthewdaley746]

@@isaiahwince4261 Couture!

[@dxhydroponicgardening9906]

Ive never been more mad about a trade than I was on March 5, 2001... Also, the board has an interesting name. Alexander Korolyuk... that guy had some wheels and was fun to watch when he didnt turn it over.

[@moonglow630]

DX Hydroponic Gardening loved watching Korky play!!! He was one of my bro’s favs.

[@davidmartinez7732]

Yes Korky or Sasha as he liked to be called one of my favorite Sharks of all time also!

[@matthewdaley746]

@@davidmartinez7732 That's a player that I certainly wouldn't have expected.

[@theretiringbarber]

This team needs scoring and far more toughness .

[@papaskazoo5860]

Logan Couture will be captain. Great video, thanks!

[@Nickleblanc41]

Egveni Nabokov also first in franchise history goalie scoring

[@6Snaus]

And NHL's leading powerplay goal scorers among goalies.

[@matthewdaley746]

@@6Snaus Strange to have two records.

[@uncensorer]

Very true. Remember that game against Vancouver. Only time I ever saw Sutter smile.

[@matthewdaley746]

@@uncensorer Hope there were pictures.

[@justinstovall4175]

I love your channel man 🍻

[@TWENTY-NlNE]

Recently became a sharks fan, thank you for this video! Subbed and go 🦈🦈🦈!

[@moonglow630]

Loved my boy Brad Stuart!!

[@OttawaNow]

SAN JOSE SHARKS IN THE HOCKEY HALL OF FAME 01. 2008: Igor Larionov 02. 2011: Ed Belfour 03. 2014: Rob Blake 04. 2016: Sergei Makarov 05. 2017: Teemu Selanne

[@emmmmmmwheel16256]

I'm supposed to be playing a biology safety game 😂 but the history of the sharks sounds a little more intresting

[@matthewdaley746]

It is.

[@lelouchvibritannia4028]

Sex ed? Of course hockey is more interesting than that "Always wear protection" common sense bs.

[@matthewdaley746]

@@lelouchvibritannia4028 I'd hate to think of what wasn't.

[@emmmmmmwheel16256]

@@lelouchvibritannia4028 😂 no this was the "What to do when you catch yourself on fire" talk

[@matthewdaley746]

@@emmmmmmwheel16256 Stop, drop, and, roll!

[@drew10981]

It's worth mentioning that the picks for the Karlsson trade are not listed accurately here. The conditions for the Karlsson trade are: Senators receive a 1st round pick from Sharks if Karlsson is on an Easter conference roster during 2018-19 season. Karlsson is not traded away from Sharks. Result: No picks are moved. Senators receive Sharks 2019 1st round pick if they miss playoffs. If Sharks make playoffs, pick is a 2020 1st instead. Sharks made 2019 playoffs. Result: Senators receive Sharks 2020 1st round pick. Senators receive 2021 2nd round pick if Karlsson resigns in SJ. The selection upgrades to a 2021 1st round if Sharks make 2019 Cup Final. Karlsson resigns, but did not make 2019 Cup Final. Result: Ottawa receives Sharks 2021 2nd round pick. Senators receive the higher of the 2nd round picks Sharks own (Panthers). Panthers pick is higher due to regular season record. Result: Senators receive Panthers 2019 2nd round pick. Meaning the Sharks sent D. DeMelo, C. Tierney, R. Balcers, J. Norris' signing rights (RFA), 2020 1st, 2021 2nd, Panthers 2019 2nd. Ottawa sent Karlsson & Perron. So Sharks sent 3 players, signing rights for 1 player, and 3 picks (2 of their own). Still quite a bit sent, but not as badly as what is listed on the board here. It's all reviewable on Capfriendly here: www.capfriendly.com/draft/2020&pick=24

[@DARK24-7]

Cheechoo always a point of interest to me-a couple great years(56 goals 05-06) but,the grind of the nhl season+playoffs seemed to break him down way to early.

[@dxhydroponicgardening9906]

I think it was only 2 or 3 years after his 50 goal year he was playing in the AHL in Binghamton.

[@DARK24-7]

@@dxhydroponicgardening9906 Ye bro he looked like he was gonna be a stud for the near future.

[@matthewdaley746]

@@DARK24-7 I think his one great year made him extremely overvalued.

[@DARK24-7]

@@matthewdaley746 Ye yer probably right.

[@davidmartinez7732]

He had double hernia surgery and he was never the same after that.

[@KaiserInGilroy2K]

In 2003-04, they had three captains until Marleau was chosen to be the full time captain.

[@PwnsvilleProductions]

Ask any sharks fan and they know how much couture means to that locker room and fanbase he will 100% be the captain

[@matthewdaley746]

That is the only correct end result.

[@tomc5823]

Logan Couture will be the next captain not Karlsson

[@matthewdaley746]

NO OTHER RESULT will suffice!

[@Nickleblanc41]

27:10 so Ottawa wins the cup in 4 years?

[@matthewdaley746]

Not if Melnyk still owns them.

[@sdgakatbk]

Interesting point about Lindros. I'm not sure, but maybe the east was more physical back then and the west was more wide open?

[@zilvertron]

During the 90s there were one thing clear; against western conference champions, east had a hard time beating the western team in 7 games, so yes western had fewer physical contact and more strategy than eastern so it would have prolonged Lindros carrer with a couple of years, but with that being said we have to consider if he would hve accepted that style of play, i doubt it

[@matthewdaley746]

@@zilvertron Lindros was an overrated diva, he just couldn't last.

[@jarink1]

Sharks history gives me a chance to say "PAT FALLLOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNN!!!!!"

[@tcsmith8523]

Falloon's team mate from Juniors was Ray Whitney. No one would have believed that Whitney turned out to be a way better NHL player who have a great career.

[@davidmartinez7732]

Pat Faloon was kind of a bust for the Sharks but Ray Whitney is definitely one of my favorite Sharks of all time! Who can forget that double overtime goal on Trevor Kidd in the 1995 playoffs against Calgary. Definitely one of my favorites!

[@matthewdaley746]

@@davidmartinez7732 His draft position was why he's considered a bust.

[@davidmartinez7732]

@@matthewdaley746 yes Matthew Daley I agree with you, if you remember we should of gotten the number 1 pick in big Eric Lindros. How do you think our Sharks history would of been different if we had our own Legion of Doom!

[@Nickleblanc41]

The 1st round pick Boston got for Jones turned into Trent Frederic

[@Infinitystones707]

Have u done the Detriot red wings yet

[@matthewdaley746]

He has, but, it was a while ago.

[@moonglow630]

❤️my Sharks!! 🦈🦈🦈🦈🏒🥅

[@thefirstrelijun]

Thank you Shannon for posting this on my birthday about my favorite team since I was 8 way back in 94!! Listen, I'm getting an Erik jersey in the hopes of being disappointed for another 25 years

[@matthewdaley746]

FINALLY, a realist.

[@Mr.Pants45]

Just saying, Saint Louis is alphabetically before San Jose. Keep up the great work Shannon!

[@cplmackinnon]

St Louis

[@matthewdaley746]

@@cplmackinnon Details, details.

[@Mr.Pants45]

@@cplmackinnon st is an abbreviation of the word Saint. Do you people not know how the english language works? Abbreviations are not words.

[@matthewdaley746]

@@Mr.Pants45 We do, I guess we just want to see the history of the current Champion before the perpetual underachiever.

[@Mr.Pants45]

@@matthewdaley746 what? Lol. Do you know how replies work? I wasnt commenting at you.

[@SB-408]

Let's Go!!! TEAL CITY

[@mendelsonja]

It is worth noting that the majority of those trades where they traded away 1st round picks were when they had a good team at the trade deadline. Sure, it didn't work out for them to win the shiny thingy, but that's why the returns for their picks were sometimes a bit underwhelming. Also, how can you not mention the most ridiculous name that was one of the finalists, the San Jose Rubber Puckies?

[@matthewdaley746]

Perhaps, but, if the Kings can do it TWICE, why can't the Sharks do it ONCE?

[@mendelsonja]

@@matthewdaley746 The Kings entered the league in 1967, made the final for the 1st time 26 years later in 1993, and won their first cup 45 years later in 2012. The Sharks entered the league in 1991, made their first final 25 years later in 2016, and still have 17 years before #45 where the Kings won their first cup. The Sharks have also been consistently a playoff team, only missing only 6 times in their history and only once since Doug Wilson took over as GM in 2003.

[@matthewdaley746]

@@mendelsonja Still no Cups!

[@mendelsonja]

@@matthewdaley746 I'll let ya enjoy it since you're a Blues fan and just got your first cup after being in the league for 52 years, so I'm sure you got plenty of the same shit up until this year.

[@matthewdaley746]

@@mendelsonja Actually, I don't have a particular team, and, while I was happy that the Blues won, I was ECSTATIC that the Bruins lost.

[@ML.80]

Do a video about Cheechoo

[@matthewdaley746]

One of the greatest one-season-wonders ever.

[@mikekole]

@@matthewdaley746 A great story, tho, coming out of Moose Factory.

[@matthewdaley746]

@@mikekole He fooled much of the league.

[@metalxhorse]

Why did u hate on the Sharks pre karlsson?

[@davidmartinez7732]

I think because Shannon is a huge Vancouver Canucks fan and we have beaten the Canucks pretty bad except for the early Sedin years, when they still had Kessler and Luongo.

[@metalxhorse]

David Martinez makes sense, I was hoping there’s more to it then that, but I’ll keep my ears open I suppose.

[@matthewdaley746]

@@metalxhorse That's the most important thing of all.

[@erich84502ify]

3rd round of the playoffs are a problem too

[@Simpsonsnut101]

Ray Sheppard fan for life

[@patch8376]

Seattle Blades. Beats half of their popular suggestions.

[@Nickleblanc41]

Still should be Seattle Metropolitans

[@patch8376]

@@Nickleblanc41 I wasn't serious about Blades. ;P And I'd agree with you but...that darned division name!

[@matthewdaley746]

@@patch8376 That conflict likely prevents it.

[@JohnDoe-eu1lc]

As a fan of MLS’s San Jose Earthquakes, I completely agree that the league is expanding way too fast.

[@matthewdaley746]

They're attempting to FORCE interest in the sport down our throats, which NEVER works out.

[@kosmicwizard]

It wont be Kansas city, it will be Houston.

[@Nickleblanc41]

Weird how Boston got a 1st round pick for acquiring Jones and a 1st round pick for trading him away

[@darthdra133]

Doing both teams a favor so they could ask for more haha

[@matthewdaley746]

@@darthdra133 How odd it was.

[@kevinkearney6634]

Id make Logan Couture captain. E. Karlsson Burns and Hertl get the As

[@matthewdaley746]

Seems logical.

[@moonglow630]

Kevin Kearney don’t forget Thornton or Vlasic. They’ve both had the A’s before.

[@matthewdaley746]

@@moonglow630 I renew my position.

[@moonglow630]

Odds are Logan Couture will be Captain

[@ShantyIrishman]

San Jose Blades is so 90s.

[@laxg64]

It would have been cool to see wesley snipes come out onto the ice all decked out to introduce them

[@matthewdaley746]

@@laxg64 Maybe before his career, and, life, went completely down the tubes a few years ago.

[@laxg64]

@@matthewdaley746 it was the 90s.. before he evaded taxes lol

[@petermontagnon4440]

As my Father said an assist is as good as a goal!!! As a winger ..I had a great points average. Then I traded my right wing to be a tender. I have been there ever since. LOL

[@mendelsonja]

I'd argue that it depends on the assist. Secondary assists in particular often have little to no impact on the actual goal. Then again, sometimes the 3rd assist (which isn't awarded on the stat sheet) played a massive role in the goal, sometimes the goal comes because of the hard work of the guy screening the goalie but since he never touched the puck he isn't awarded a goal or an assist.

[@matthewdaley746]

@@mendelsonja Assists are a tricky affair.

[@petermontagnon4440]

@@mendelsonja LMAO depends on the assist??? LMAO You really are an armchair player!! LOL

[@petermontagnon4440]

@@matthewdaley746 you are another armchair player. LMAO

[@mendelsonja]

@@petermontagnon4440 so you're saying if the other team dumps the puck in, i leave it for you behind the net and you go end to end and score a goal, my assist is as valuable as a goal? I was just pointing out that some assists are extremely valuable and the person who assisted did the majority of the work to create the goal, but some of them are not that valuable.

[@waynedavis6760]

Flash forward and EK69 is the sinker. Sharks 10 yr run is over no cup anytime soon sorry bud

[@brandonboudreau235]

Couture for Captain

[@matthewdaley746]

MUST happen!

[@Rwallrus]

Thornton can make anybody a super star. If he passes to you, you will score. Just look at the careers and stats of Setoguchi and Cheechoo. They both had fantastic numbers with the Sharks, than got traded and without the help of jumbo, they did nothing. Pavelski has played with jumbo his whole career. Its going to interesting to see how he does without him.

[@davidmartinez7732]

Cheecho also had double hernia surgery that limited his skating abilities and he was never the same player after that.

[@matthewdaley746]

@@davidmartinez7732 Probably had trouble walking.

[@jsullivan5823]

Can we please get a good John Constantine movie? Thanks again lol

[@ShantyIrishman]

J Sullivan He’s great on Legends of Tomorrow

[@matthewdaley746]

@@ShantyIrishman Never watched that.

[@ShantyIrishman]

Matthew Daley Season one kinda sucks, but if you get passed it, it’s pretty good.

[@matthewdaley746]

@@ShantyIrishman At the beginning, things are usually the hardest.

[@dominikheiderer9161]

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