UPDATED REALISTIC SOLO PVP TIER LIST for MOST PLAYERS - 11.0.5

[@skillcappedwowpvp]

Rank Up Fast At ➡www.skill-capped.com/wow#1105realisticupdate

[@andrewcarnegie4089]

Q-times must be fixed.

[@thedeceasedband]

it's brutal

[@moritzgraben2064]

Is it that bad? I usually wait between 5 and 15 minutes to play shuffle

[@Beansicus]

Bro play healer, problem solved

[@Bubajumba]

@@moritzgraben2064 Yea thats really bad, 15 minutes dude. By the time you have played 4 games you have spent 1 hour waiting. Who wants to spend hours of their day waiting

[@thedeceasedband]

@@Beansicus But that just doesn't sound fun

[@yesjoeri5298]

correction: monks cannot play ancient teachers AND rushing jade wind kick because its the same slot. SO you don't have the big crackle healing with the kick build.

[@spideysense1847]

As a resto druid main this makes me feel good about myself

[@serveywow]

same (from a holy priest main)

[@mr.alexeitonkov2967]

Finally you are honnest about sub rogue's tier ranking.

[@betahumanx]

Is Arms really better than Fury?

[@lambey6113]

Dks do well then over nerfed every expansion. They just can’t get it right.

[@guillaumelavoie2563]

problem for dk is that their best dps spec is blood

[@lambey6113]

@ I know😭think there’s more blood dks above 2.4 than frost and unholy combined

[@Marbo-Marbo]

I got 1800 on frost in solo shuffle, while I struggle bussed on unholy. Frost smokes people who underestimate its overwhelming goes that combine with its ridiculous and reliable cc. Plus frost strike hits as hard as obliterate when it shatters

[@ZorpoTV]

Thanks so much for the shoutout! This is the crazy controller channel ❤😂 and I'm a big fan!

[@cipiripipo]

yesterday i went from 2100 to 1800, i‘m so trash

[@chinan1239]

I quit pvp

[@ziggs123]

You are trying and playing, you will improve 💪

[@ziggs123]

Also 1800 is already top 10-15% as the video said

[@Jattox]

You aren't trash. Pvp has a lot of balance issues. I finally hit 1800 on my warrior in ss. Every game you win or lose makes you a better player. Chin up and keep up the grind. I believe in you.

[@Paul-Sapp]

1950 to 1800. Went from 5-1 and 6-0 multiple lobbies in a row to slowly climb to 1950 to lose 4 lobbies in a row to get 1800. Healer solo experience is garbage.

[@ItztoobadthatI]

Switcued from Fury to Arms i can say its the better pick 100%

[@jameskim1505]

Demolish or Slayer??

[@ItztoobadthatI]

@jameskim1505 Demolish is fun but Slayer to win

[@Silentsvt]

Fury still outperforms arms but arms is easier to play

[@ItztoobadthatI]

@Silentsvt fury is a wet napkin with one defensive that 2 mins. Arms is also a wet napkin but has a you can't hit me button to melee and a you don't hurt me with that cast for caster every 12 seconds.

[@sametkucukcolak4157]

Fury makes carpal tunnel :)

[@indritmani1198]

I’m 1800 as a (glass cannon) fire mage , that means I’m like top .001%

[@estebanslavidastic4382]

Man glass cannon nerf was so unwarranted. Makes fire nigh unplayable.

[@gustavomttxr]

I'm rerolling just to get the 1800 cosmetic gear before the season ends, btw does any1 know when will it end?

[@majkatrojedjece6585]

Not sure when it ends, I think there is a major patch before new season patch and raid patch, so you have time, just play blitz, 1800 rating there is like a starting point, you get it very easy with any class

[@AlunethMaster]

finally someone said it :/

[@majkatrojedjece6585]

I droped from 1.9k to 1.6k as sub rogue after nerfs, switched to playing blitz only and 2k+ already while having more fun, its actually peek wow pvp.

[@mithrandirthegrey7644]

I'm not surprised at all. Enhancement shaman has a lot of buttons but basically it comes down to SS spamming. That's why it's fun.

[@theo90907]

Just got 1800 on my main alt survival hunter, it is pretty good guys, wayyyy different from other dps specs out there. You guys should try it out.

[@StevenNeidlein]

Hit 1800 on dh in blitz yesterday feels good 2 toons 1800 on boomie 1800 on dh 1600 on evoker even though i was 1776 on evoker .

[@ittoogame]

Shaman enhancement tier A+?! I remember someone quipping: "I don't know why people insist on playing shaman enhancement if we have the elemental which is much better". HAHAHA Good to see how the world turns!

[@Illonn]

what does one tricks mean ? lucky?

[@AyoWillx]

People that only play THAT spec. If you only play frost mage, you are a frost one trick.

[@jameskim1505]

So Blood DK is meta now ??

[@justinbartlett1971]

Just can’t be bothered to wait 20+ minutes for every solo q to have people not pop any defenses and throw games. If the boys aren’t on to play arena I don’t even bother getting on anymore. Time is limited and it feels like only unemployed people or single people have the time to sit in qs for hours to play only a handful of games

[@Storytimemike]

And then blame you or healer or anything else other than themselves for losing

[@kinetiks_]

hit 1730 on my unholy and faced 3-4 matches with warriors windwalker and bm lol lost 100 rating -.-

[@kyleb7488]

It sucks that balance always gets pooped on. We had what, two weeks of fun and now back to getting wrecked

[@Nanomachinesson9094]

I was in blitz yesterday and balance dealt massive damage. 200m plus damage dealt while me as fury dealt 180m damage. Only issue with balance is that they are squishy. But with healer and if left unchecked they deal really good damage

[@kyleb7488]

@ balance has always performed pretty well In RBG due to dot damage. This is about arenas, where you'll get tunneled and trained down

[@Youtubin8]

Have always noticed boomkins doing well in battlegrounds in damage cause of whatever that star falling ability is where there's tiny little stars constantly hitting everyone around

[@Toadiferous]

Outlaw is really fun right now. I think it's sort of in that sweet spot of being strong enough, but not OP. It still has well-defined weaknesses (like Pallies and Survival Hunter) and lacks the burst of other specs to break through defensives. It's great that the "real" rogue mains can still play Assa if they hate Outlaw, so I think that makes it less likely for Outlaw to get nerfed. Usually the main complaints come from rogues who prefer Sub/Assa when Outlaw is the best. I could see the quadruple Grappling Hook getting nerfed due to BG Blitz though. But ideally that would come with getting Shadowstep back.

[@AnAdoringFan]

Agreed, I think outlaw is in a great spot right now. We have an interesting spot in the meta because while we do get countered by pallies and really good hunters, we also tend to be strong into casters because we're one of the only melee that can maintain good uptime on them. I've been having a ton of fun with outlaw this expansion, much more so than in DF. We spent most of DF being terrible and the 10.2 rework got completely ruined by the Ace proc nerf in pvp in S4, which was thankfully reverted going into TWW. Overall outlaw feels much more rewarding while still being fairly sleeper and unlikely to be targeted with any major nerfs.

[@Illonn]

so pretty much i shouldnt be a rogue then...

[@user-kc2wg3cc1u]

I died four times in a comp stomp match. That’s enough PVP for me.

[@MultiNexius]

why are you even talking about survival when you dont have any guide for it?

[@WasabiCannon]

Why bother making a survival guide when bicmex is around?

[@murdsy4456]

outlaw courses when

[@Lepaulorig]

Suprise suprise, survival exploded after bicmex's guide

[@effortlessGFX]

Problem??

[@mickycala]

Marketing 😂

[@TheGoldenriff]

Fr now he blowin up our spot.

[@96Warobelisk]

*Marksman is the least likely spec to reach 1800* Blizz trying their hardest to make me go BM, but I ain't going to.

[@yoru1247]

is it possible to get guided in german? i mean my english isnt that bad but normaly i play in german and honestly i dont wanna change the ingame language

[@j0p3t0]

I reached 1800 with frost mage quite easy. I might be better, than average player KEKW

[@rajjzen]

i always hated this multi minion mess in other games....and now this cancer is in wow on first ladders

[@jackbobruk4410]

who'd have thought mages would struggle in a hunter meta

[@andreavaleri3632]

Am i the only one is having issues reaching 1600cr in solo with monk mw and pala holy?

[@theo90907]

You mean Bigdam and his 10 enhance alts have the highest win rate

[@KJwess]

Shadow is the king of war within within

[@EnDo2TwEnTy]

The website is a lie if you are not satisfied with the site and cancel before 14 days money back guaranteed no questions asked is a lie I’m currently fighting with skill capped to get my money back because I was not satisfied with the website had better content in the past!

[@nrf82]

I refuse to play a Druid

[@wkf97]

🔥🔥🔥

[@serveywow]

You're missing blood dk bro

[@seigneurdesbouseux6603]

Solo shuffle is a dead game mode, 30 minutes to find a group at 1900 mmr during peak times, feels like I play with the same players everytime too

[@hasselea8499]

Getting 1600 first week on my DH was such a pain, i have never had to sweat so much in my entire life😂

[@MediMeow]

Bad times for mage mains…

[@lewhtv]

Updates every week now, huh? Wow pvp is so bad nowadays. So sad..

[@Norw_AI_Music]

How about we all just agree that PvP is dying (is dead), and the developers ain't gonna do anything about it. Feels clunky, feels sticky, the overall experience makes you depressed and it just ain't fun anymore

[@pxrxdx187]

bicmex is a god

[@miniroseyo]

why does blizzard suck so much when it comes to class balance

[@Failedwizard1]

The clip at 9:30 is the BIGGEST REASON why Holy Priest is struggling, NOBODY EVER KICKS REPENTANCE, EVER! You literally see his teammates are standing right next to that Holy Paladin and they just let him hard cast Repentance in the open, and now it has no cooldown meaning it's even more important that DPS stop it. It doesn't matter that we have Fade and Death, it only takes 1 Hammer of Justice to get through and we're facing over 15 secs of crowd control from the Paladin alone. KICK FREAKING REPENTANCE PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@GpDailyGames]

Demo just sucks ass in blitz. I want a spec that can play both

[@iLlamas1]

I also thought that, but I leanerd a trick from a brazilian dude that has a youtube channel, demo can have 4 stuns, if you are on a carry the flag map just stick with your fc and stun/slow the enemies, if you are on a hold the base type of bg demo is good in group fights, they can act as body guards to friendly healers keeping meeles away from them, try that next time!

[@catclipcentral]

Mage is so bad that there is only 3 mages in the top 5 players in EU.

[@JamesDeanoli]

This is a tier list for the 'average' player. Virtually any spec can make it on the ladder. When enhance was considered D tier across multiple tier lists you had one in AWC taking wins and bigdam incredibly high on the ladder. You also had a BM with the highest shuffle rating pre buffs when BM was considered D tier. Oh, and a frost DK with one of the game's highest win rates. It isn't a shocker that mage is struggling in the current BM/caster favored meta.

[@smn98498h]

why cant yall youtubers just talk normally and not like a disney character

[@TheOnlyJuan_]

Arenas are dead…

[@Ragestarved]

Agree since bg blitz no1 does arena.

[@Storytimemike]

15 year old game bruh it’s been dead 🤣

[@ImperviouslyGaming]

what about the fact that wow pvp is pretty much completely dead? howcome there is no video or talk about that LOL. yall wont have a subsciption model to sell if there is no pvp community which is pretty much nonexistent now, lfg is 100% dead. no one is queing any of the brackets besides Blitz and SS and even then those 2 brackets are only a couple thousand people total... this shit is dead af and its sad.

[@CB-pw5yo]

It’s always 3 to 3 as shaman healer until I meet a good priest 💀 then it’s over

[@Wreck5tep]

pretty funny how your entire content is based on drustvar's shitty data collected by a few people uploading reflex history lol

[@awayspa4511]

What data would you use

[@AnastasiaDanilenko-v3c]

F mage?....

[@srzb]

to bad i dont wanna sit in 20 minute q PVP in this GAME is DEAD thats so sad

[@iLlamas1]

the game is not dead, a lot of people are playing solo shuffle but the queues are indeed bugged, sometimes they have an estimate of 15 minutes but I get a match in less than 4 min and sometimes they have an estimate of 15 minutes and I get a match in 25 minutes

[@srzb]

@@iLlamas1 the game is not dead but pvp is and u cant change my mind on 2200 mmr its so fuckkin dead in EU i have played whole season

[@iLlamas1]

@@srzb oh, indeed I don't know the situation in EU

[@guillaumelavoie2563]

mages are not bad at all but as long as bm hunters remain broken, you won't see a ton of mages

[@Eliteninja007]

No way frost mage is B tier lol

[@ferbz5936]

If you are a warrior I'm sure frost mage feels s tier. There is a reason why mages are climbing the first blood percentile. They've gutted their defensives and DMG for the past few months. Top that with meta being hunters, ferals, and ele shams, direct counters to mage.

[@Spiritt_Daphiti]

San'layn UH DK it is not in use at all , thats why i stoped pvp ,arena,bgs :( Dead Knights now dont have lovely Necrotic Strike , PvP tallents are absurd (for use ) Lastly , when you spend all of your Catalist charges for PvE (cuz iam solo player ) but PvP non-set bonuses and not set also .....

[@kerkertrandov459]

First in my mind

[@wowdkftw80]

Mage is under performing only because there's a bm hunter in every single ss lobby and 3s match. It's unfortunate bm is ruining the game. Overall the game is pretty balanced and fun.

[@jameslumpkins4609]

Fire mage was doingbthat a few xpacs to my bm so I'm glad it's our turn

[@AlunethMaster]

nah, mage is flat out just bad. kinda been singing this since tww dropped pretty much tuning here and there, but it hasn't rly changed except frost, frost was strong and it was nerfed, but i don't play frost this season

[@Nanomachinesson9094]

Honestly I hate seeing same classes over and over again in ss. They are all locks/frostm/spriest/bm hunters with occasional shamans. As fury its hard to stay above 2k. And I have to sit pillar all game except burst window. Im doing blitz now and im already 1800. And i might stick to it. Tired of seeing same class same tactics after 30 minute wait.

[@ferbz5936]

​@@jameslumpkins4609few expas lol. Stop living in the past. Hunters have been good essentially every season, BMS are broken now... All other specs are doing good still

[@ferbz5936]

​@@AlunethMasteragree, going from fire mage to BM hunter was eye opening. More DMG , more survivability, more mobility, low risk high reward. While fire mage is high risk low reward.

[@michaelschlagl6306]

First

[@animedreams11]

Pls remove mobility from pvp PLS

[@Hatch889]

Q times are redonkous😢

[@ferbz5936]

Both in blitz and SS. Actually SS queue times are shorter than blitz for me. Mage and devoker.

[@gie5834]

You can hit 1800 with just about any non tank spec pretty easily. Ranking Enh shaman, with it's mobility issues, over Rogue is pretty bad -- even if this is meant for players trying to hit 1800.