UPDATE: 2M responded after posting this video and they were kind enough to give me a small refund to replace the VBand Clamp even though clamps are not part of the lifetime warranty. Service was great, I got the exhaust a week after my order and the fitment, quality and sound has exceeded my expectations. Thank you 2M , this exhaust is a work of art.
@jrockfletcher95526 ай бұрын
I just got my 2024 C8 back today with this same catback exhaust from 2mfabrication. Drop it off yesterday. They called me back before noon today and said it was ready. They said it was only a 6 hour job. No fitment issues or anything else. I’m very pleased with this exhaust system. Love the sound. Saved $1000 compared the $2000 paragon or $3000 AWE exhaust I probably would’ve purchased if I hadn’t seen your videos of the 2m exhaust. Can’t beat it for the price!
@vertisjohnson2195 ай бұрын
@@jrockfletcher9552Any Check Engine Lights?
@jrockfletcher95525 ай бұрын
@@SerhansGarage No error lights of any
@jrockfletcher95525 ай бұрын
@@vertisjohnson219 no error lights of any type
@OME8748 ай бұрын
I installed an eventuri intake and a solar performance ported throttle body and the solar performance controller. It turned the C8 into a different animal. It is unreal the difference in throttle response. That is a mod that works!
@SerhansGarage8 ай бұрын
Nice! I'm thinking of installing the Solar throttle body but the Eventuri is out of my budget right now but it looks and performs great. I bought a blue attack filter anf that's good enough for me for now.
@OME8748 ай бұрын
Im like you man, I can't understand why C8 exhausts are so expensive! Some of them are 5 to 6 thousand dollars! WTF! You are right, its just the corvette tax.
@legendscollector2285Ай бұрын
I've had my 2m muffler for 2 weeks now. And I seen all your videos. And yes this is by far the best exhuaust for the c8!! I cannot express how good it sounds especially if you know how to downshift and make it go pop . It makes the car sound less like a muscle car and more exotic/race car tones. You get a bang for your buck! Plus other don't sound as goood as this. This sound is loud enough and really clean,not obnoxious at all
@SerhansGarageАй бұрын
@@legendscollector2285 Agree 100 percent , car sounds exotic, high pitch, not throaty like most exhaust systems and the pops when it shifts gears is awesome.
@ParagonPerformanceАй бұрын
Fun note, we are the manufacture of our exhaust ourselves - not 2m fab ;) Feel free to fly out to our location in Iowa & we can show the the original pre production units made in house by Dakota. Fact checking false claims.
@blooshoozКүн бұрын
Thanks, I bought a 2024 Vette and will put this exhaust on. I like your video, unlike many of the Vette shill videos, where they recommend an exhaust because they got them for free, you bought the dam thing with your own money and put it on. From the video the fit and finish looked great. The sound was very good. For a tad over 1K Ill take a flier.
@SpencerBrian-v6l25 күн бұрын
Best install video. Amazing detail, love the idea of storing the simulators the way you showed. Thanks so much
@jwherron5 ай бұрын
I agree, it looks like a Paragon. If I remember correctly, Paragon has a nameplate welded on the center piece. Good value. Great install. Thanks for the video! 👍
@SerhansGarage5 ай бұрын
I'm thinking of fabricating a custom piece to weld on the exhaust
@ParagonPerformanceАй бұрын
Yes, we have our Paragon P logo welded in the middle for branding recognition
@92IsaacYun8 ай бұрын
Dude congrats man, sounds unreal! 🤙 Coming from a Camaro 2SS owner😁👍
@Maximum1A8 ай бұрын
Great installation and product review video. One of the best I have watched. thank you so much. Really quality looking exhaust at an unbelievable very low low price! I was excited about looking into buying one UNTIL you mentioned their customer service sucks. Which means if I have a problem I would be SOL. Customer service and responsiveness is more important than price.
@SerhansGarage8 ай бұрын
Check out their reviews....its either 5 star or 1 but they were good with me, after the video they responded and gave me a small refund to cover cost of new clamp. They provide lifetime warranty and it's. Quality piece at an affordable price which is hard to find.
@aydinbarin60208 ай бұрын
17:15 wow that's a great idea
@frankiebpr3 ай бұрын
You have done a fantastic job in the installation and not to mention your video. I forwarded this video and he ordered it. His only concern was the lack of Heat Shield, so he had the exhaust wrapped with Heat Shield “Tape” similar to those used in motorcycle exhaust. Again, thanks for your professional video presentation!!! Frank
@SerhansGarage3 ай бұрын
@@frankiebpr I'm glad this video was useful. I've had no heat issues with this exhaust. Thanks for commenting.
@CatNMrDJ4 ай бұрын
I was going to hit up Paragon for my E-Ray...but...I just may go your route. I do want the Z06 center exhaust of which Paragon sells, maybe 2M does as well. Awesome video!
@SerhansGarage4 ай бұрын
You will love the 2M, it's screams and sounds like an exotic V10 , V12.
@deathsavearcade39517 ай бұрын
Thank you for this video. Made me feel like I can undertake my corsa exhaust install on my own.
@randydehart41826 ай бұрын
Just installed and performed cold start. Sounds great and no CEL! Videos don't come close to the sound even with bose or Sony headphones. Had narrowed list to AWE and Paragon touring, then found your video. Went together well, used your video and paragon's, no issues other than 3 tough nuts on the car itself. Beginning reassembly....
@SerhansGarage6 ай бұрын
I'm happy to hear that. I too was considering AWE and Paragon but wanted to give 2M a try and no regrets. The only downside to the 2M fabrication exhaust is that you will always want to drive in Track mode and manual! I hardly drove in track or manual before exhaust, now I just want to drive to hear this exhaust. Would love to hear about your buying experience and driving experience when you have it on the road. Thanks so much for sharing.
@randydehart41826 ай бұрын
Loud in the cabin when driving. We're there exhaust gaskets I may have missed or another trick? Don't think it should be as loud as it is.
@C8_Zaddys4 ай бұрын
@@SerhansGarage Do you lose the stealth sound mode when driving in 'Touring'? I want this but don't want to piss off my neighbors. :)
@SerhansGarage9 күн бұрын
@@C8_Zaddys It's noticable quite in touring, you should be fine.
@bretteagleton81967 ай бұрын
Very informative video. You covered every possible aspect that we all want to hear when deciding on an exhaust. I was un decided but after watching your video got on line and purchased the 2M. Still waiting for delivery but it’s on its way. I’m from Australia so Utube really gets around.😅 I agree it’s practically identical to the paragon but half the price.
@SerhansGarage7 ай бұрын
You will be very happy with the exhaust, I enjoy driving the car much more now because of the exhaust.
@bretteagleton81966 ай бұрын
Thanks again , I have another Question. During the video you mention the quite small clearance between the lower part of X pipe and the plastic under liner. Have you since then had any issues with heat as a result of it being very close distance. Thanks
@SerhansGarage9 күн бұрын
@@bretteagleton8196no heat issues at all
@williamtaylor45408 ай бұрын
Great video! Have you noticed any issues with heat, so far? I am leery of it having no heat shields.
@SerhansGarage8 ай бұрын
I haven't driven it yet but I will be taking it out of storage in couple days and I will post more videos soon
@24C8TT-Seawolf4 ай бұрын
Cant thank you enough for making and posting this video. I would not have purchased the 2m fab cat back for my C8 if I hadnt seen this video. Im almost done with my install, but the hardware that comes with the provided clamps is junk. Possibly the clamps too. Ive got to buy some hardware locally. It appears the Vband clamps keep the exhaust in the hangers. Again, install has gone perfect except the Vband clamps.
@SerhansGarage4 ай бұрын
Let us know what you think of the exhaust. The sound is.now the best part of the C8
@24C8TT-Seawolf4 ай бұрын
Got the car fired up today. Cold start is rowdy. I used steel bolts and nuts from the hardware store on the provided V clamps. Now in process of putting the car back together. Cant wait to drive it.
@sirbondman0076 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for this video, as it was well produced. What is NOT so good is that, for the majority of the time, the video was unfocused. I just subscribed, so I'm looking forward to seeing your films.
@SerhansGarage6 ай бұрын
I agree about the focus...its a DSLR Camera which is hard to keep in focus
@JMoortgat-em3mt8 ай бұрын
Great video. We needed a good 2M video of just the exhaust. I asked 2M for some sound clips and never got an answer. Some fly bys would be great. What wing do you have on your Vette? It looks like the older C7 Z06 wing,
@SerhansGarage8 ай бұрын
Wing is from Competition Carbon.
@TatersFPV2 ай бұрын
Hey man could you post a link to the vband clamp you ordered? I just ordered this system and am gonna get an extra clamp just incase one is bad. Thanks for such a detailed install video on this system with all the little details, really made me more confident about doing this myself.
@SerhansGarage2 ай бұрын
Evil Energy V Band Clamp for Flange Kit Stainless Steel (3.0 Inch) a.co/d/9buCse2
@helpinghands-assetrecovery408026 күн бұрын
Hey bro coo vids, keep em coming. I searched for the rear end spoiler you had insatalled on your vette on the RSC site but can't find this particular spoiler on their site. Can you please point me in the right direction?......Thanks in advance
@SerhansGarage26 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching. Message Competition Carbon on Instagram to enquire about ordering this spoiler. They don't advertise it on their website but they built one for me. I bought this spoiler from Competetion Carbon, they build these themselves.
@samstewart48075 ай бұрын
emmm@24 min. did they include a "packing material" for the joints?
@joeyofblades6 ай бұрын
3:30 where do you put the jack stand? I've been asking people where to put stands and all I got was "the jacking points are the only approved point to lift the car" over and over again... people will jack the rear up high and put a flat-top stand on the front but I don't have flat tops...
@SerhansGarage6 ай бұрын
I don't remember exactly. The oval cutouts are lift points and the round cutouts I think are jackstand points
@frankiebpr7 ай бұрын
Thank you, great video!! You earned a thumbs up and new subscriber.
@SerhansGarage7 ай бұрын
Thanks for the sub!
@MarkSt.Pierre8 ай бұрын
Great video. Best I’ve seen. Can you provide the link to the clamp you used? I might get a couple delivered just to have for install. Also, did you drive yet? Looks really close to the bottom deflector I’m wondering if there is going to be an issue with heat and potential damage. Would love a reply, hard to see from the video but great job regardless. I have the MBRP on order but I’m tired of waiting for it to become available. Might cancel and go with this one
@SerhansGarage8 ай бұрын
The clamp make is Evil Energy which is I found on Amazon, it's a bit more heavy duty. No heat issues, the deflector feels warm to touch but not hot, I have no concerns of heat damage to the bumper. This exhaust sounds amazing and for price cant be beat. Thank you for watching. Will make more videos on this exhaust
@MarkSt.Pierre8 ай бұрын
@@SerhansGarageone last question. Literally just got done installing mine. Love it, did you have any squeaking from the flex pipes when it got hot? Hoping it quits after a few heat cycles but I do love the exhaust, it sounds great. I had better luck with the V clamps, 0 complaints other than the squeaking and creaking. Might just be the newness
@SerhansGarage9 күн бұрын
It's normal for exhaust to make clicking noises after you turn off engine , it's just the metals contacting....I havent noticed any such noises on.mine .
@rawwwwable8 ай бұрын
Awesome
@samstewart48075 ай бұрын
IF you put Auntie seize on the bolts they will go together nicer.
@Alfonso-mh1np6 ай бұрын
Is the resonator packed with fiberglass or steel wool? They say fiberglass melts overtime and loses its sound its better to have steel wool packing like magnaflow and vibrant uses
@SerhansGarage6 ай бұрын
I don't know.
@MasterGGG6 ай бұрын
I have this exhaust, best sounding C8 exhaust, sounds like a lambo/exotic car
@SerhansGarage6 ай бұрын
That's exactly what I've said in my other videos...this exhaust has a high pitch screech that sounds like a V10 exotic.
@JamesSalomon9476 ай бұрын
My only concern is it sits very close to the bottom. Have you check to see if you had any issues with melting? I want a deep tone which this seem perfect
@SerhansGarage6 ай бұрын
There's a half inch gap, the plastic gets a little warm but will never be damaged. I have no heat issues with this exhaust, even after aggressive driving
@jasonruch35297 ай бұрын
LOOK AT THE QUALITY 😊
@gambleman84957 ай бұрын
Hi. I had corsa before.Does it have a throaty sound like a motorcycle, around 2500 to 3500 rpms?
@SerhansGarage7 ай бұрын
Not really, it has more of a high pitch screech at around 3000 rpm
@samstewart48075 ай бұрын
hmm if they passivated/ polished the exhaust pipes after they welded them WHY are the welds a different color? Maybe they used jyp welding rod?
@SerhansGarageАй бұрын
I'm not a welder but I think the heat changes the color of stainless steel, extreme heat results in blue hue and it's normal after heat cycles to turn gold
@StevenLe-c5t7 ай бұрын
Great exhaust! Are you running wheels spacers?
@SerhansGarage7 ай бұрын
Im loving the exhaust and no I am not running spacers, they are aftermarket with offsets that make tires flush with fenders.
@barrybonds5317 ай бұрын
@@SerhansGarage can you please spec the offset you have
@SerhansGarage9 күн бұрын
@barrybonds531 I have a video on the wheels, I go into.details with the offset. They are 24mm less than stock
@deathsavearcade39517 ай бұрын
Can we get an update? Does this keep AFM? NPP? I think I would need to order 2 sets of simulators according to their website. I noticed you only installed 1 set. Also, how is it when you’re cruising at 50-60-70? Is there interior cabin drone? I’m very sensitive to it. Thinking of getting corsa due to the no drone
@SerhansGarage7 ай бұрын
No it does not retain the AFM and NPP function. This exhaust is 'on' all the time. My stock exhaust did not have NPP so I needed just one pair of simulators as to avoid check engine light. No drone at high speeds on highway and I can barely tell the difference in sound from 8 to 4 cylinders while cruising on the highway. The only drone I hear is slow speeds like 20 mph and in 4 cyl eco mode. I don't experience any cabin drone when driving , especially in track mode.
@deathsavearcade39517 ай бұрын
@@SerhansGarage thank you very much. 1k is so much cheaper I may go with this one
@deesgarage51343 ай бұрын
I guess I missed it, does it have the valve to control exhaust sounds?
@SerhansGarage3 ай бұрын
@deesgarage5134 No, the exhaust is always 'on', it does not have the ability to quiet the exhaust.
@MT-dh2tr6 ай бұрын
Awesome video! New sub.
@steeltown61138 ай бұрын
Sounds good. What spoiler is that?
@SerhansGarage8 ай бұрын
Thanks. Spoiler is made by Carbon Competition
@frankiebpr6 ай бұрын
Did you have any problems with the check engine light!!!
@SerhansGarage6 ай бұрын
No check engine light
@RobertMacCready4 ай бұрын
Excellent video and very helpful for anyone who wants to put on their own exhaust. This is a very reasonably priced exhaust, but their customer service could be a question mark (saw your note and glad it was resolved). Would like to have heard a couple of drive by clips. Thanks for a very interesting exhaust system. I know some systems are made in China. Is it possible to know where your system was made?
@SerhansGarage4 ай бұрын
I have a few drive-by clips. 2M is a fabricator located in the state of Ohio in USA, I believe they manufacture in their shop in Ohio.
@vertisjohnson2198 ай бұрын
Whats the horsepower increase, and is CARB complient?
@SerhansGarage8 ай бұрын
LMR dynod their exhaust which is identical to this exhaust and they found gains of 20 HP. In my jurisdiction there are no strict CARB requirements.
@AXJ232 ай бұрын
33:28 for sound clip
@SerhansGarage2 ай бұрын
Thanks. This is an install video. I have lots of videos with sound.clips.
@StupidFastTruck6 ай бұрын
Sounds great, your car lunges forward on a remote start also. First time it did that it freaked me out.
@paulwillard3398 ай бұрын
The old saying is "as long as we pay the price will stay. I do agree that some are much better quality and more expensive.
@TBagr3 ай бұрын
What brand are the wheels and ducktail?
@SerhansGarage3 ай бұрын
@TBagr Avante Garde wheels and spoiler is from Competition Carbon. I have videos on these, check it out. Thanks for watching.
@RelentlessDH8 ай бұрын
Shops charging me 600 to install…. I’m debating doing it myself.. what difficult Level would you rate it
@SerhansGarage8 ай бұрын
4/10 for difficulty. It took me 8 hours total but that's with me working alone and working with the camera for footage. If I were to do it all over again I would still do it myself. It's not complicated at all and there are alot of instructional videos to follow. Save your money, do it yourself and put that money towards other mods!
@Howdy7628 ай бұрын
you got it. hardest part is holding the bumper yourself.
@SerhansGarage8 ай бұрын
@Howdy762 is true, and the foam chair I used worked perfectly for resting the bumper. Hardest part of install for me was loosening the nuts on the bottom , next time I would get a 2 foot extension and loosen them from the rear instead of from underneath the car.
@PoHMotivation2 ай бұрын
When you change modes does it quiet down?
@SerhansGarage2 ай бұрын
@PoHMotivation yes, touring mode is much quiter. Before exhaust I was always in Touring but with this exhaust always Track mode!
@johnny01106 ай бұрын
Any drone with that system??
@SerhansGarage6 ай бұрын
Slight humm at very low speed , 18 mph and only when in 4 cyl eco mode. On highway no drone in eco mode. In track mode there's never any drone and sounds amazing in track.
@jass79816 ай бұрын
Does this void any warranty if an issue arises?
@SerhansGarage6 ай бұрын
No. An aftermarket exhaust wont void your warranty.
@chrisk.63013 ай бұрын
Anyone in California bolt this on? Any smog issues? Cheers great vid!
@joelwolfe7175Ай бұрын
Did you get an answer on this?
@chrisk.630124 күн бұрын
Nope
@kpcarfreak945 ай бұрын
Please post link where we fellow Vette owners can buy
@SerhansGarage5 ай бұрын
@kpcarfreak94 I bought directly from 2M Fabrication...just Google their web page
@bezaldo75 ай бұрын
Did you have to pay a lot of duty import fees getting it into Canada? Total is coming to about $1300 USD
@SerhansGarage5 ай бұрын
@@bezaldo7 it was about 1700 CND with duty taxes and shipping
@bezaldo75 ай бұрын
@@SerhansGaragedid you do anything special with the duties? $1300 USD is already over $1700 CDN without duties and I would imagine if you just order it directly they would charge at least $300 for duties. Not sure how you worked out that price. I would like to order but wanna workout the logistics first
@SerhansGarage9 күн бұрын
@bezaldo7 it was a $1000 USD, after converting to Canadian and paying GST and Shipping it was $1700 CND
@OME8748 ай бұрын
I like that , you did an awesome job and great video. Did you have any drone? Let me know i hate drone, i would love to do mine !
@SerhansGarage8 ай бұрын
Thanks. I haven't driven it yet so I cant speak for any drone - the car has been in storage in my garage over the winter but I will be taking her out of storage in about a week
@OME8748 ай бұрын
@@SerhansGarage Thanks for the info. Can't wait to see a video when you get it out! That exhaust looks really good!
@Stew51668 ай бұрын
Saw and considered 2M Fabrication for my C8. Then noticed a vendor on eBay selling an EXACT copy of this for $950 with 4 different tip options and free shipping. Some tips had the carbon fiber overlays. Only reason I didn't buy was because I would have to buy my own AFM/NPP simulators elsewhere, and the cost about $100/2 or $200/4. Had the same stainless steel T304 build and looks like the same welds. Had the same resonators built in. eBay charges taxes nationwide now 😞, so the all up costs came out to be about the same as 2M, but had better exhaust tip options. I ultimately chose another brand, MBRP because they take the exhaust downpipes and connect to the top side of the X pipe, and that give super wide clearance compared to the 2M with runs finger width close to the frame cross member and that lower under tray panel. Some people had vibration issues when they accidentally overlooked that tight closeness and their installation touched these pieces. I didn't want any chance of that. Obviously, with close attention you can avoid this. This is a tempting option for sure. The reported lack of customer care also caused me pause. Their website kinda offends you even in their FAQ page, where they say something kinda smarta$$ about being busy manufacturing rather than being on the phone, as I recall? Anyways, I posted on Corvette Forum some weeks ago that this has to be the manufacturer of the Paragon Touring Exhaust in my opinion. 👍🏽
@SerhansGarage8 ай бұрын
I can confirm that there is no drone...even in 4 cylinder mode when driving on highway in Touring mode. Sounds amazing. Will post videos soon
@gabepulice64216 ай бұрын
Interested in purchasing this exhaust but I am apprehensive due to all the negative reviews.
@SerhansGarage6 ай бұрын
They don't have good customer service reviews but they were good with me. I got mine a week after ordering and they replaced one of the clamps for me so I had a very positive experience and this exhaust cant be beat for price, quality and sound.
@ftnrbhmwk3 ай бұрын
Thank you for exposing Paragon for retail price gouging.
@ParagonPerformanceАй бұрын
No exposure done as we are the manufacture of our own exhaust ;)
@ftnrbhmwkАй бұрын
@@ParagonPerformance . Right 😉
@lunnarsz62096 ай бұрын
wallah sounds so good
@Howdy7628 ай бұрын
dude that is 100% the same exhaust as Paragon. i have the paragon track exhaust and that is identical in so many ways
@SerhansGarage8 ай бұрын
Yup, same as Paragon Touring exhaust as these have the resonators at the end.
@williamtaylor45408 ай бұрын
@@SerhansGarage But did Paragon come first, then 2M copied their design? I, too, am hesitant about their customer service.
@roberthelgeson12946 ай бұрын
Paragon is made by 2m.
@jmitch88955 ай бұрын
I looked at the paragon system. Looks like you are paying extra for the tip selections. I googled tips similar to paragon and they are like $700.
@ParagonPerformanceАй бұрын
@@SerhansGarage X pipes are different, the 2M mufflers come out the bottom of the X-pipe while ours come out the top. They took our made in house design & changed it ever so slightly to make their own.
@stevec7548 ай бұрын
We need a review video
@SerhansGarage8 ай бұрын
For sure, I will make more videos soon when she's out of storage in the next couple of days. I can't wait
@purple_85Ай бұрын
I want to buy an aftermarket exhaust but the tips look like shit compared to oem on all I’ve seen.
@SerhansGarageАй бұрын
@purple_85 these tips are perfect shaoe and size my opinion
@bradstoneny4 ай бұрын
Do you need refund after putting this on
@SerhansGarage4 ай бұрын
Refund? If you meant relearn- no not needed
@bradstoneny4 ай бұрын
@@SerhansGarage misclkicks,I meant retune,thanks
@SerhansGarage9 күн бұрын
@@bradstonenyno need to retune
@zenocashi5 ай бұрын
Sounds like my old Chevy truck
@ecirimele7 ай бұрын
Absolutely worst customer service. Made a change to my order by adding more. They kept an extra 20% for making the change. This company will not last long.
@SerhansGarage7 ай бұрын
Sorry to hear you had a bad experience. They were pretty good with me, I would give them 5 stars
@Steveleanr8 ай бұрын
Can't get a simple question from them, I"ll pass... could have better customer service... AWE it is!!!
@SerhansGarage8 ай бұрын
What was your question?
@samstewart48075 ай бұрын
emm chinese stainless steel is half the price of American stainless steel
@wethepeoplestacking35018 ай бұрын
Did you get any check engine lights? BYW great video😎🙌🏻
@SerhansGarage8 ай бұрын
No check engine light. No heat issues and no drone
@chrisadkins93512 ай бұрын
With 2M, paragon, Level Up, and many eBay sellers, I’m thinking these are all Chinese.
@SerhansGarage2 ай бұрын
@@chrisadkins9351 2M handbuilds their exhaust systems in Ohio.
@ParagonPerformanceАй бұрын
Ours are USA made ;)
@ron71018 ай бұрын
You need to invest in power tools😂
@SerhansGarage8 ай бұрын
I have lots of air tools and electric impacts guns but sometimes I just prefer hand tools for noise and delicate work but you can never have enough power tools.
@vinnyman61508 ай бұрын
Tick tick tickty tik
@samstewart48075 ай бұрын
hmmmm does anyone kow if the welds were back gased? lol how many weld joints are there? maybe the guy making this system was smoking a joint as he cut it up? At BEST, this is a poor prototype system. Maybe the reason it cost HALF as much is because they used scrap ubends- ( they no my bends- they your bends) I bet $50 NONE OF THOSE WELDS WERE BACK GASSED. LOL@48 seconds they ARE PAYING THE WELDORS BY the joint lol Maybe there are stones inside the ex system too? oh wait jest because u r stoned does not mean there are stones in the system- butt if there were stones in the system they would hit the cars in back of the corvette