Upsets And Comebacks! The Best DPS In Ulduar So Far

[@HamsterWheelGaming]

Sorry about leaving enhancement shamans out of the sheet at the end, they went from 5 in late phase 1 to now position 8 in early phase 2

[@tigeryumyums9407]

It's okay, us enhancement shaman are used to being forgotten about 😅

[@HamsterWheelGaming]

@@tigeryumyums9407 lol!

[@BlackEyedkoala]

Pretty sure the reason there’s no xt logs is because all that data is from hardmode kills for bosses that have hardmodes and since nobody has killed xt hardmode yet that could be why?

[@davidt5194]

Just an FYI the Rubble add packs on Kologarn don't count towards parse as implied, it's only the boss and arms which die at some point in the encounter. However the fact still remains that strong cleave classes e.g. enh, balance, fury do pretty well on it. Hunters would be much higher on it if they did the jump trap off the ledge but it's a pretty risky strat so not many do.

[@HamsterWheelGaming]

Thx for the info!

[@Infernoblade1010]

Makes me happy that I stayed frost on my dk, and leveling my enhance shaman!

[@HamsterWheelGaming]

Enhancement is awesome, I always had a weak spot for the ol' shaman class :)

[@BarrickMacready]

Both classes I've mained back in the day

[@guiseppeslovacek6899]

Rare spawn @Hamsterwheel

[@HamsterWheelGaming]

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[@KaNighto]

Enhancement Shaman doesn't even get a slot in the sheet at the end of the vídeo. Dang.

[@HamsterWheelGaming]

Sorry, completely crossed my mind when I made this video. They went from 5 to 8

[@KaNighto]

@@HamsterWheelGaming No problem! Enjoyed the video! Great content! Thanks for the reply!

[@Chris-qt6dn]

Heyo, where would one find this information on their own? I'd love to see the updated logs with ret pally buffs

[@jaywalker9862]

Please make a video on the new fresh vanilla+ type server OSWoW

[@Zaecute]

small adds dont count on kologarn and arms dont count if they don't die, no info for xt because it hasn't been killed on hm yet, small adds on auriaya dont count, etc

[@HamsterWheelGaming]

Oh wow thanks I didnt know that!

[@Burlehmangus]

Tigers count

[@darylsdog9521]

@@Burlehmangus the big one does the lil ones dont

[@Paamejer]

The swarm boys dont, cats does

[@CFkatehudson]

Shadow is rocking the pugs but it might be that the good deeps got a good guild.

[@ivr9407]

Hamster. Are you gonna play Stormforge new TBC server coming in march? I can barely wait!

[@cellist2410]

I've been talking about unh dk nerf for a long time now. The nerf was not because they are op, as a fact u can see that they're more in line (and even middle of the pack in some encounters), and the nerf wasnt even that big. Ulduar is a diverse raid, with very diverse encounters, meaning each encounter hits a specific niche. The class that fills that niche best will be no1! What about Naxx? Literally all the fights are simple and fast. Ofc that plays directly into unh strong side, i.e. scalable 40sec burst. Why are we surpirsed unh was top dps? Imagine we got a raid with 10 sec dps windows (say boss going immune each 10 sec): we would be complaining about ele rn... Am I right or am I right?

[@proxyminersgamingchannel4350]

Your final changes left Enhance Shamans off. You must work for Blizzard as that is 100% what Blizzard would do.

[@HamsterWheelGaming]

lol!

[@jottape886]

Blizzard hate ret

[@markomancikas]

Pretty sure it is not frost at vezax, its frostfire bolt spec that goes deep into frost and quite a bit into fire too and then spams frostfire bolt all the way.

[@alanrodriguez3011]

Frostfire spec is a fire subspec. most of your talent points go into the fire tree. It's actually why fire is so good on Hodir. Vezax is legit deep frost.

[@flexwheeler707]

that is considered fire, the spec is deepfreeze frost with water ele and instant frostfire bolt on proc , razey pulled 100 on it you can look him up on warcraftlogs

[@spenserroxsox]

I'm loving frost dk right now. The gear is easy to get. It takes half the effort that unholy has to put in, and about equal on the charts.

[@Deavhrmordhau]

It's literally better people just haven't had the time to get their 4 piece to boost Obliterate damage by a SHIT ton. It's gonna be better than Unholy on every fight

[@fritzschnitzmueller3768]

Good video but its not true that fire mages are superior to arcane mages. Its dependend on the encounter, even in icc

[@dancieta]

You forgot the enhancement shaman at the end ;(

[@tylerm6080]

swear every content creator forgets or downplays enhance shaman since the beginning. super annoying

[@HamsterWheelGaming]

@@tylerm6080 was an honest mistake, I even mention in the video that I have a soft spot for them so its not like I intentionally ignore them. My main on Warmane is a shaman lol

[@tylerm6080]

@Hamsterwheel not so much you man! I know you spotlight them more so than others, just wow community as a whole; meta, wille, frost, other big names that do content on wow all forget about them but a good enhance def makes the raid as a whole better, just hate seeing my boy get slandered lol keep up the good work ♡

[@Jack-bu7kr]

Hey man, what do you think about the classic era servers rising in popularity due to the hardcore community? Will you make a video on that?

[@HamsterWheelGaming]

I had no idea it was rising but thats really cool to hear! If I have inspiration for a video I'll try to make one

[@Cornholers]

Funny thing is near the end of icc ur gonna see some omfg from some classes sitting in the middle lol

[@HamsterWheelGaming]

True, and the bottom specs like retro and Fury will move up :)

[@zhyrny]

Who is gladiator warrior?

[@HamsterWheelGaming]

Its a hybrid tank/dps spec

[@sigplayer112]

this only shows how bad players are, show us list of max dps of each class and list changes alot

[@HamsterWheelGaming]

This is already the 99th percentile..

[@alexfredrikssonshred]

Fury warriors will have to wait till ICC to really shine but damn, blizz rly did a horrible job balancing it back in the day. Imagine playing a warr back then in the beggining of wrath

[@luckiness9500]

If You think about it. That's why back then You had a lot of prot Warriors all over the place.

[@Denrosanabben]

Wars got nerfed alot during wrath. Execute got wrecked and they added 10% penalty on Titans grip

[@luckiness9500]

@@Denrosanabben originally. Titan's grip had a 15% hit rating chance penalty. SO anyone would prefer a 10% damage penalty than anything else xd.

[@Denrosanabben]

@@luckiness9500 I think it was "only" 5%, and only affected abilities, not autos. Weapons mastery was also in fury for 2% expertise. Biggest nerf tho was probably execute rage cap, especially for arms. :)

[@darylsdog9521]

It was stronger at the start in OG wrath

[@cc1210]

What is a glad warrior?

[@Egghead012]

Don't let the meters fool you, Retribution paladin is the #1 dps, you are all just bad at ret pally.

[@OriginalSarn]

Yeah super high skill ceiling spec for sure

[@Sunsation01]

This is the way my Brother

[@fothermucker7527]

I really love ret pal , but you have to realise that if youre good at ret pal youre even better at half the dps specs :(

[@ryanclark9386]

Ok McConnell

[@Chucboris]

Now they pump for real, kinda nuts

[@Set8060]

I think some of these logs don’t include adds during bosses. As Ret on Thorim I absolutely dominate the meters. Noone can catch me even when it becomes a single-target fight at the end

[@soulmourn1702]

a lot of fights the add arent counted

[@HamsterWheelGaming]

Thats kind of unfortunate because while the adds dont necessarily kill the boss and make it drop loot its still part of the fight and should be added as damage. There's cleave fights in naxx where because of adds Fury warrs and rets did allright, so shame its not really accounted for in Ulduar

[@Set8060]

@@HamsterWheelGaming every fight with adds ret and fury seem to absolutely devastate the meters but they never show up on logs. Definitely a case of being better on meters than in the logs. So ret doesn’t actually feel terrible to play; they just look bad on paper

[@somguy5035]

XT would push rogue up more

[@petardinjo]

demon hunters are not on list at all ?

[@scxiao]

Guess I chose the perfect time to respec from Assassination to Combat... 😂😂

[@Darkdeaths994]

Always play what you enjoy!

[@HamsterWheelGaming]

Lol very true!

[@Sdizzle7]

IDK man I am way out performing these as a combat rogue. I call BS. If you use your procs with your abilities correclty, you definitely pump way harder then what he is showing here.

[@Industrialqt]

i am sure back in the days i played blood DK dps and was permantly top dps (oh and we did algalon server first)

[@fritzschnitzmueller3768]

Yea I also remember blood was the way to go for dps in OG wrath. But wrath classic starts basically on the latest patch of OG wrath, at least when it comes to class changes/balancing. Thats probably the reason why we don't see Blood DKs in wrath classic. Thats also the reason why DK doesnt revive as zombie when he dies :D Man DK in OG wrath was just so unfair

[@somguy5035]

We have a blood dps right now and he pumps Consistently in the top 3

[@zangpadaires]

@@somguy5035 top 3 of your heroic runs maybe

[@MrSoupDinosaur]

no blood dk dps represented?

[@aliad76]

Not entirely true, but at this point, on this content there is not much to say about blood dks as a dps spec Blood really shines on late toc/ICC because of the same as warriors reason - armor penetration

[@Industrialqt]

@@HamsterWheelGaming absolut wrong. Frost spec was the Tank spec back then. Blood and UH was dps.

[@HamsterWheelGaming]

@@Industrialqt my bad you're right

[@chc2650]

I cant imagine someone playing Gladiator warrior and trying to be taken seriously. My frost mage gets so much hate, that I keep a fire off spec just to shut meta whiners up.

[@TastyScotch]

Buff ret. That is all.

[@sanmedina]

Warriors be like ➰🪑

[@HamsterWheelGaming]

Warrs be like 'Where ICC'

[@chriztopher1231]

Im so tired of blood Dks not being represented in these lists!! I dominate half these classes on my blood dk dps! And am closer towards the top of the chart. Yet nobody ever talks about blood aka runeblade spec, yet gladiator war is always on these lists smh pathetic

[@hvdiv17]

so much for people thinking blizzard actually does balancing...lol.

[@HamsterWheelGaming]

To be fair their unholy dk nerf made it so unholy is now 4th place (so still pretty good) instead them being 1st and way ahead of anyone

[@ivanf4536]

Why can’t they just give my warriors a 5% damage buff, we are literally bottom of the charts in every spot but like 1 fight. Same with ret palis

[@HamsterWheelGaming]

Probably because late TOC and ICC you'll be unstoppable

[@Burlehmangus]

Yea. The gear scaling going into ic gets insane….especially weapon scaling. They’d have to add it now and remove it then…and think of all the ppl that would qq about having damage removed.

[@jasonlucia6682]

@@HamsterWheelGaming Easily solved by buffing tier bonuses instead imo.

[@marcellowheeler88]

It's always been like this for warriors. By the end of the exp you'll be on top.

[@jameshsu6364]

You don't seem to be actually raiding and just cashing in on the videos... Zero knowledge about any of the parse rules for bosses or specs. Just talking with no substance at a list for every boss. You should delete this video tbh I'm 5 minutes in and have heard half a dozen straight up wrong things already.

[@HamsterWheelGaming]

You're more than welcome to check out dozens of videos of me raising on several wotlk private servers including doing Ulduar, toc, icc etc

[@jameshsu6364]

@@HamsterWheelGaming you haven't raided 25man HM wotlk classic ulduar. Tell me I'm wrong? You're relying on your private server knowledge which isn't useful in explaining the parses.

[@johanlahti84]

A bit early for a video like this. Most people have gotten like 2 upgrades or so. Barely noticeable on meters. come back in like 2 months or so.

[@HamsterWheelGaming]

It is because its not about comparing how people are doing in terms of gear, its seeing how the specs perform on these new boss fights. Then, later in late phase-2 I will compare and see if the gear upgrades will have changed things around much

[@jeterwannabe]

UH was the best because gargoyle and the short, single phase fights* which don't exist in HM uld. Ulduar fight styles nerfed DKs more than blizzard -- hence why UH didn't need any nerfs to begin with

[@Radicalftw]

Can't even spell the bosses names, come on man.

[@insurrectionist5099]

Blizzard fucked up by nerfing Unholy DK. It was estimated to be a ~7% dps loss on 3 minute fights, which would still have put them behind affliction warlocks on almost all fights this phase

[@Avelek1]

What made you think unholy should be higher than affli?

[@volusinus]

They are fine, the nerf wasnt even that bad as it's turning out. It was a janky playstyle anyways.

[@insurrectionist5099]

@@Avelek1 the point is that it didn’t need to be nerfed

[@insurrectionist5099]

@@volusinus they are fine obviously, and the play style is definitely easier now, but it just didn’t need to be done tbh

[@HamsterWheelGaming]

At least they said they will monitor it constantly so who knows they get a slight buff again. Though, with them being number 4, I doubt it

[@JJH493]

Crazy how wrong a community can be. Feral druid = S tier in phase 2? 😂 didnt quiite work out that way

[@iridimite1563]

smooth brain take

[@jaketyler7380]

2 locks out and makes a dps list lmaooo