URBAN HOMESTEADING Community | SELF-SUFFICIENT in the City

[@RickMitchellProvenanceAndRoots]

As if I needed another reason to LOVE St. Pete! It takes a Village. In my own discussions with homesteaders, I've tried to counterthe "bug out & shut the gates" mentality by pointing out that one person can not do all the things. I'm good at raising chickens for eggs and meat, but, so far, suck at gardening. I need a neighbor that's great at gardening. And, the list goes on of skills needed that none of us can master them all. Thank you for continuing to feature life at DR and other communities such as the one in this video, to show that community living IS how it works.

[@HardcoreSustainable]

I'm glad you understand what I'm talking about, Rick.

[@McDowallManor]

Community sustainability works well in the city. Even with heaps of land, you can't be completely self sufficient.

[@janapetersen5066]

Beautiful 🌱🌱🌱🌱❤️

[@JennyfromDblock]

Everyone's definition of homesteading is different and that is ok.

[@malibu405]

Ok, well said. I was excited to find this title, but his opening was a bit disappointing to hear. Why compare? And say one way is better than another. He might be surprised how much those large land owning honesteaders DO help eachother and share resources/ skills. Just do you boo. I'm going to finish watching, betting they'll have some good ideas, the righteousness I can do without.

[@yankey4]

That's funny I call my place my HomeStead but it's more a Community in the country where we all take care of what we can. We share what we can and even share 2 wells. MY solar runs one of the wells for are water for the live stock and vegs.. We did not know this would happen but just kind of did over time.. Even when new peeps move in we try to find what part they can do.. Thanks for sharing..

[@HardcoreSustainable]

That's the way to do it and great if people are close enough to make it possible.

[@heatherreis7839]

Finally someone has said it! You dont need 10 acres of land to be happy. We have just under a half acre and love every bit of it. And just like you said these homesteaders all move out to these big pieces of land buying all this equiment spend 4-5 years building a dream off grid home just to be "free" you know how much equipment costs? My husband works on them and it blows my mind how much 1 machine goes for. Then i look at these people and all i can think is "woohoo your ripping down more land to build yet another home" there are hundreds of suburban set homes for sale that have beautiful pieces of land on them for sale but hey why not rip down more animals homes.

[@HardcoreSustainable]

Also working with other people in a community means you can share and don't have to buy one of everything you need like most homesteaders do.

[@heatherreis7839]

@@HardcoreSustainable keeps you social as well which is,in my eyes, a essential part of life especially for children.

[@kamadogrove]

That’s awesome!

[@suburbanhomesteaderwy-az]

I am a suburban homesteader and a new KZbinr. I love your videos. Building my systems over the last 15 years. I too like sharing with like minded neighbors. Oh I also subscribed

[@HardcoreSustainable]

I'd love to see more of what you are up to. I'll check out your channel.

[@suburbanhomesteaderwy-az]

@@HardcoreSustainable Please do I have a gardening together series on Tuesday and Thursday mornings.

[@HardcoreSustainable]

@@suburbanhomesteaderwy-az Okay, I'll check it out.

[@maswilli]

I loved thie video, but I really wanted to know how they started it all, inviting others to live with them, was the process hard, etc. I can't wait to see more!

[@HardcoreSustainable]

I think their idea is easily replicable, but like many of these communities they don't always last long. People sort of went in different directions and though Malory still owns the properties, the community is not organized like it was before. I think she just invited tenants to be a part of an urban community. I have found that the more structure you can create with shared responsibilities, the more stable you can make the community.

[@svetlanikolova7673]

i use fall leaves for my compost toilet! I am sooo happy I dont have to go out in the cold to.go anymore! and leaves dont smell either!

[@HardcoreSustainable]

If you got lots of them that's a great complement to a humanure system.

[@Meatherxc]

My neighbors and I trade plants all the time I have gotten so many plants from them!

[@VerucaPumpkin]

So good.

[@Scientologyguy999]

Helpful and handsome!

[@mifamiliaylagranja684]

wonderful way of living, in harmony with nature, I would love to learn a lot about permaculture, I hope to be accepted in your community and make good friends, greetings from Mexico

[@danielibarra3670]

Yo también lo veo desde México jaja

[@Nafo-Radio]

My city calls compost materials "solid waste." So I can't start a community composting project without an act of congress apparently. So I am going to collect waste from my CSA members on the down-low. Illegal composting.

[@Nafo-Radio]

I have learned that the city planner misunderstood the city codes. Apparently, I have a community composting project according to the waste department. In fact, it is encouraged.

[@Spescorp90]

Very cool stuff!

[@Aetherfield]

Can anyone tell me exactly where this place is in Gulfport?

[@HardcoreSustainable]

Hard to describe but I haven't been there in a few years so I don't know how the garden looks now. I know the collective living on the multiple lots didn't last much longer after the video.

[@SadieAnnCrowdis]

I want all of that!

[@YoutubeVideoViewerDEL]

Good stuff!

[@GatorLife57]

Thumbs up ! Wolf🐺 👍

[@jimargeropoulos8309]

What was the Web site about the rain water harvesting? I tried Raintube. Io . but that didn't work

[@HardcoreSustainable]

It should be raincube.io, but it's not really working for me because it says the site is not secure. I don't know why it's not working.

[@jimargeropoulos8309]

@@HardcoreSustainable They just have a bad https certificate.

[@jenniferrobinlee]

There's also one massive grass roits company in Mexico City (Coyoacan) that uses a tlalco filter.

[@jenniferrobinlee]

Isla Urbana is the company name

[@Nafo-Radio]

Self-sufficiency is a myth. The best you can hope for is community dependence or community resilience.

[@HardcoreSustainable]

It's true. "Self sufficiency" can be so much easier to achieve through the power of community. Self sufficiency has come to be known as independence from "the system", meaning the grid, the grocery store, the corporations. But I have to say I think it's so much better to be part of a community working together to achieve this kind of "self sufficiency" than to be homesteading it alone as a family in the country. You need to have one of your own of everything to make you "self sufficient" living as one family in the country. Often people trade one dependence for another when they homestead. They just need more machines to make it possible to do everything "on their own" because they live in the middle of nowhere and others are too far away to share.

[@Nafo-Radio]

@@HardcoreSustainable I agree with much of what you say, but what you're describing as what self sufficiency has come to mean is actually 'autonomy.' The problem being "self sufficient" in anything is that it implies you have to rely on someone else. An example would be "of the grid." Unless you are doing the mining for elements to make solar panels out of and producing your own panels you are infact "dependent" on others to make them for you. You have functionally become part of a community, a community in China most likely. So the term, "self sufficiency" shows a misunderstanding of what the word "self" means. Which is ironic.

[@HardcoreSustainable]

@@Nafo-Radio True it is a buzzword. I don't expect someone to be entirely self sufficient and there are few humans that are these days. Even though I live in an ecovillage with much less and consume far less than a typical American, I wouldn't at all consider myself self sufficient. Probably my community is more resilient than most. Even if we were in Texas in the last week, we probably would not have been lacking clean drinking water, electricity, or heat like most people there have been. But we don't make our own solar panels or electric cars. I don't expect people to. I just want people to live as sustainably as possible. I don't know if the term autonomy expresses the same thing. We are all self governing to one degree or another, but I wouldn't say that relates to being off grid, or growing your own food. I guess i'm not entirely sure what you are trying to say. Maybe that we shouldn't use the term self sufficient because it implies that we are entirely going it alone. I don't think anyone thinks that, though they might pat themselves on the back a bit too much for doing something that really isn't that much different from what everyone else does and call themselves "self sufficient"

[@Nafo-Radio]

@@HardcoreSustainable I agree again. I think that the reason you might not see how the word autonomy fits best is that you are stopping at the first step. Here is an example. Step One: I want to remove myself from the grid so that I am free of the power system. Step two: The result of that action is autonomy from the structures of industrialized power. Step one: I want to grow my own food to rid myself of the industrialized food system. Step two: The result of that is autonomy from industrialized food systems. Overall the hope to be more sustainable in the production of anything is ultimately a proclamation of wanting autonomy from something else. The term "self-sufficiency" implies a sense of independence that really doesn't exist anywhere I've traveled or lived. There is always a community component to it, so at the climax of self-sufficiency, all that is left is community dependence. Sure there are a small number of actually independent/self-sufficient people in the world and really the term should be reserved for them; because those people are amazing. The rest of us should use a different term because I think that words matter. Having said that, I understand why people use the term and I'm not surprised by the use of buzzwords at all. This is KZbin after all. :) I really do appreciate your video though, my intent here isn't to show a dislike of anything you've said here. It is just conversation.

[@charlotteprudhomme6671]

Hi! Love your channel thank you. How do I visit the Hummingbird Hideout permaculture site in Gulfport, FL? Thanks! From IG @generationpermaculture

[@BAYOUTOWNProductions]

We live on 7 acres in the country on our homestead, and we do NOT have all those pieces of equipment you are talking about. We do everything by hand with manual tools. It's not necessary to have all those pieces of equipment. You might have that a bit wrong. Not all homesteaders who live in the country have all that equipment. We wouldn't want to have a community situation. We did many years ago when people were still friendly and helped one another but it's not that way here anymore. We helped our neighbors set up their homestead and they stole our tools, our time, and then lied about us to our neighbors. Then the neighbors stopped talking to us about 20 years ago. So, no - we don't want a homesteading community. We have a permaculture homestead - food forest.

[@HardcoreSustainable]

And I'm sure that things take a LOT longer for you to do and they cost more, even if you do things simply. I'm just saying that by sharing resources and working together, you can have more wealth with less time. You just have to learn to get along with people. We live in a selfish individualistic culture where we are raised to think selfishly and competitively. In my community everything isn't always smooth sailing, but people in general have an attitude of paying things forward and a gift economy. Sounds like you have selfish people in your area or you were burned by some people and it turned you off. Not surprising if you are surrounded by people wanting their own space and to do things on their own. Neighbors can be assholes, especially if there is a lot of distance between them. But actually, even our neighbors (farmers and Mennonites) around Dancing Rabbit Ecovillage in rural Missouri have been gracious in helping us out over the years, coming in to pull cars out of the mud with their tractors, lending a helping hand in an emergency, and we have tried to help them out. Recently a man's house burned down in the area. People in our community didn't know him at all, but they sent money to help him out.