US Air Force Testing Brand New $4 Million Fully Electric Aircraft

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[@ocalaguy32195]

Will KC-135s now have in-flight charging cables?

[@donmason2933]

The refueling plane will drop a case of Harbor Freight AA batteries.........

[@randywilson944]

KC-46 or The Sunshine Band will replace it.

[@brucewygal133]

lol

[@pietpiet7041]

Yes, WiFi connetion.

[@soulsacrify]

No just a fucking long extension cable, plugged into the smoko room

[@nalakirkwood4425]

The Rolls-Royce electric plane is sensational. Looks amazing and so much fun!

[@rupep2424]

Electric supports low noise, heat & maintenance. Add a little stealth & ground-based power (fabric solar panels + batteries?), and maybe you'd have a handy 'flying jeep' etc

[@javedkhan1023]

This technology will change aviation positively. 🚁✈

[@jaaklucas1329]

Locally here Harbour Air has been testing a retrofit electric on a float plane. The majority of their trips are short shuttle,30-50kish which is perfect for charging between trips. The weight of battery packs has to be considered. The pilot says the torque at takeoff is quite superior!

[@mohamedbaza9573]

It is very good. All my best wishes for you and USA

[@user-yg1zp8uk4d]

Thank you ❤

[@krasslofw.4393]

What's next? Electric tank? Missile? Aircraft carrier? Spaceship?

[@hwrdgrn]

Yes. Once upon a time ships used sails, then transitioned to steam. Ground forces used pointy sticks, and then found something better. The future belongs to those who are willing to adapt, not those who are stuck in the past.

[@krasslofw.4393]

@@hwrdgrn your review is correct, showing an development towards use of steadily increasing energy density. The future like in the past will be created by those who accept and use the laws of physics without being corrupted by ideology.

[@TomokosEnterprize]

They are already there and testing other ideas.

[@RealMTBAddict]

​@@hwrdgrnNo, electric vehicles aren't the future. Maybe do some research.

[@spitlikesfire9368]

Only thing i dis agree with is electric comab vehicles at least until we get reliable and actually efficient way of charging them and were they can be better then gas​@hwrdgrn

[@kf7bws]

Another thought. Lithium Ion batteries are light and the most energy dense. However it is illegal to transport them by air on commercial airlines. How about all the fires we have seen caused by Lithium Ion batteries. Not a good feature when flying at thousands of feet.

[@manfredstrappen7491]

1) Lithium batteries are carried on cargo only flights. 2)Know what else you can’t carry on commercial airlines? Missiles, grenades, bombs, etc. You see, the military can do lots of things civilians can’t.

[@Hyposonic]

Gasoline has 100X the energy density of a Li-Ion battery. In practical terms, that means a 737's range would be 31.6mi instead of 3160mi. That would be 90 stops for a flight from NYC to LAX.

[@PitWChannel]

So why can't I take a can of gasoline as my hand luggage in commercial flights then?

[@darrellmcever340]

@@Hyposonic NOT USABLE Energy. Go do your homework....

[@Hyposonic]

@@darrellmcever340 As I am a designer of high-performance Li-Ion batteries, I'd love to hear your groundbreaking insights.

[@joeottsoulbikes415]

I recently saw a video on a plane going the complete opposite way. It had the stock Rolls rotary motor taken out and a super charged LS swapped in with a custom transmission gearing it so it could fly at 3,000 rpm and nit the usual 6 or 7000 rpm most plane motors spin at.

[@PiefacePete46]

An excellent compilation, thank you. 👍

[@bwphotoguy1]

This test is probably intended to produce a large weaponized drone from this.

[@joistein]

How is the battery made and where does the power come from?

[@ViolentKisses87]

You are thinking about it too hard it's ZERO EMISSIONS!

[@fetB]

how is fuel made and where does the power come from to make it

[@ViolentKisses87]

@@fetB details, details. Look not at the man behind the curtain.

[@krisspkriss]

It comes from the blood of children and is made by dark magic rituals lead by the Great Orange One.

[@pumpedupdart6859]

@@fetB so you're admitting both require fossil fuels??? Nice self own. LOL Plus we have to deal with dirty batteries, lower speeds, much longer refuel times, more weight, all new infrastructure....

[@fritzrentsch9943]

Never forget: A dream is a dream. The things take time, a lot of time

[@soaringeagle]

They are developing fast and will be the norm in 5 years

[@amitmadhu5440]

Yeah, it needs time. But people also trying reducing time.

[@lcfflc3887]

Not on lithium.

[@soaringeagle]

@@lcfflc3887 why not? But they are developing new technologies all the time. NASA has a new battery that’s impressive. But lithium puts out a lot of power fast, so it’s great for the use

[@MarkBarrack]

5:36 I have been following Beta for years. Congratulations to them f9r their hard work.

[@blhplays5107]

They released their transition video a few hours ago, go check it out!

[@Justwantahover]

10:00 At last a clear shot of a UFO! 😅

[@brucebaker3523]

Using portable diesel generators to charge EV aircraft makes complete sense to me!

[@PitWChannel]

What if the goal is aircrafts which are more quiet?

[@brucebaker3523]

@@PitWChannel That's what drones are for!

[@nevilleoliver1883]

The horse drawn carriage will never be replaced!

[@ayamhitam9794]

Yes! A flying horse could replaced airplanes. Scientist should find a way to bring back to life Pegasus and those prehistoric flying reptiles

[@Dave-ty2qp]

Peguasus, and Santa's Reindeer could do much to relieve our fantasies in transpoeration. And it's amazing what Fairy Godmothers can do with pumpkins. 😀 @@ayamhitam9794

[@John-nc4bl]

Drones are cumbersome with their sprouting support arms for propellers. Kinda like antlers on a deer. In comparison, helicopters are compact.

[@nabilalanbar]

They aren't drones.

[@JohnDoe-lt6ty]

what charges the batteries? (a diesel generator behind the building)

[@soaringeagle]

Solar, wind, clean energy. Don’t be stupid.

[@frankyyaggabot6222]

@@soaringeagle Yeah smart, because today's Armed Forces only want to operate when the sun is shining!

[@stevecam724]

Maybe nuclear fueled electric planes but not rechargeable. How would you recharge hundreds at the same time and what do you do about the extended turn around times?

[@nalakirkwood4425]

Yes, micro nuclear would be next level!!

[@DJAYPAZ]

I wonder if a TCAS like system will be incorporated into the Joby aircraft.

[@duanium]

I envision an aircraft propulsion system utilizing plasma jets for faster speed than propeller air propulsion. But as to whether the Air Force and the Space Force has any plans for such a situation for future air and space dominance largely depends on the kind of energy plant research for aircraft and spacecraft that is feasible.

[@carlbeaver7112]

Who sees a KC-135 dangling an extension cord out the rear to do a mid-air recharge? ;-)

[@jollyroger7624]

Extra mileage available with an extension cable.

[@ralphbuschman3364]

Electric motors may have start up advantages. Where in application like elevator they do well. In a plane or drone how well does power transmission to individual user get done?

[@soaringeagle]

You never drove an ev? They are vastly superior.

[@daciamcv1026]

would make a great air ambulance depending on price

[@southpark4151]

The main thing is always - how long can we fly for with a battery. And how to totally avoid over-heating, electrical fire, running out of juice due to wrong data about the energy level, ending in tears etc.

[@tubeviewerX20]

This is cool. But I think for now hybrid aircraft will be the best immediate answer, especially when solar power becomes more reliable.

[@kimkeam2094]

I applaud the emphasis towards technological changes in the aviation industry however it will always come down to practicality. Electric isn’t ready yet, not only due to capacity but also safety. Battery design has to change dramatically to reduce risk overall. Can you please review the negatives as well. I see only the spin on the positive side of electric with your site.

[@thatbeme]

It's great. I will own one, one day. 😊

[@SemourKlitz]

Awesome innovation and your content presented with the epitome of professionalism. I immediately subscribed!

[@stevecam724]

FANBOY alert 😁😁😁😁

[@PiefacePete46]

4:50 "Joby have invested millions >>> flyable by pilots and non-pilots alike". Being a 'Pilot' is more than having the skill to control the aircraft... even more important is the mindset that is infused during training. History shows that allowing someone to fly 'with only ??? hours introduction; no license required' can quickly end in tears. 😢

[@joells371]

So.. is there a tactical solar panel system that is laid out in a tactical, bomb-proof arrangement?

[@MrSaemichlaus]

They will tactically push the airplane around on the ground in circles for two days to tactically recupe enough energy to then fly to the next tactical diesel generator with tactically hotwired charging plug.

[@replica1052]

a stratolaunch with a lifting body between the fuselages flying high, fast and efficiently while dropping empty batteries as autonomous planes would certainly make it across the pacific

[@spxram4793]

it made much more sense to use electrical drives and brakes on the landing gear, to avoid using the turbines for taxiing and gain some energy when braking.

[@replica1052]

@@spxram4793 ​ an electric a-10 would have no heat signature and the batteries would be extra armour

[@garygeorge9648]

talk about polluting the ocean.

[@replica1052]

@@garygeorge9648 (you can land autonomous planes wherever you want them to land )

[@npmetzy5737]

😆

[@kf7bws]

I am very much in favor of new technology and innovation. There is a place for any or all electric vehicles. However electric has a big short coming, energy density. Battery technology does not have an even close energy density to carbon based fuels. Energy density in batteries will continue to improve but in my view it will be many years before it approaches that of carbon based fuels. So for a very long time there will be a market need for both. Unless great detail to safety and backup systems are payed attention to a single fuse could down an aircraft. As a former military person and an Electronic Engineering Technician, in a combat situation a fast recharge will still need to be accomplished by carbon based fuel generators mitigating the zero emission aspect. I should suggest helical toroidal propellers which would increase efficiency by about twenty percent. Keep moving ahead this is impressive technology.

[@hanswallner2188]

You need much less energy in an electric aircraft, even todays lithium ion batteries are able to provide around one hour of flight time for electric aircraft, there are already certified electric planes out there, and they have 10 year old battery technology. As right now energy density goes up by the month, in the very near future flight times around 2 hours will be possible, which is more than enough for many tasks (short range passenger flights, emergency services, package delivery...) electric aircraft will have tremendously reduced costs per flighttime, as all the hot section engine problems go away, electric motors do not need regular maintenance, cost reduction will be HUGE !

[@kf7bws]

@@hanswallner2188 Lift is determined by the shape and size of the wings. Pound for pound it takes the same amount of energy to get identical panes in the air regardless of whether it is fossil fuels or electric. "You need much less energy in an electric aircraft," is not true. Getting an aircraft in the air is not the issue maintaining flight is the issue. As you stated "lithium ion batteries are able to provide around one hour of flight time" fossil fuels have a much higher energy density, meaning they can stay in the air longer. Someday it may be a reality that we will have long range electric flight, it is not today.

[@vsznry]

One of the biggest reasons theyre investing in this is because of the lower weight of putting a bunch of these in that C-130 transport plane or within carriers. .Weight = fuel = money.

[@brucewygal133]

You really think they are lighter with all the batteries they require. EV cars are not lighter than gas fueled cars.

[@douglasdavis3603]

The plane of the future, and always will be.

[@patstenzel]

Dream on

[@aisulutursunbekovna6275]

Будьте осторожней, скачки температуры на высоте, могут сыграть плохую шутку с электричеством и батареей. Проверил на тесле-тележке, ездит нормально, но на температурный режим тележка никуда не годиться.

[@galactuscausandoimpactus9521]

Obrigado pela informação 🙂

[@simons.2948]

I’m a pilot & I’m pretty good at it, proof being solo record in my club & winning competitions. I can say pilots are like car drivers, some good, some average & some not so good. I really can’t imagine lots of citizens of the world flying around together, would be chaos & dangerous. I guess safety systems would eventually cure that though?

[@edutaimentcartoys]

wow electric planes

[@juanar4305]

4:18 It reminds me of the Supermarine S.6B, or its successor, the Spitfire of WWII.

[@kirairce]

4:38 GOOD shape!!!

[@Dons166]

Mid air recharging?

[@matthewspry4217]

Lean green killing machine, even the tree huggers are happy

[@mahmoodsoleja9068]

Superb ! 🌟

[@garymiller5937]

Hmm. Interesting video. 😊😊😊❤❤❤

[@brucesmith5426]

Where are the aircraft with windmills above the wings? I'll bet these electric expensive play toys will be good targets.

[@hakonhalldorsson6673]

The dream of flying cars always amuses me. While generation of lift is done with propellers of any shape or form, the noise will render the concept a non-starter. We've had 3 helicopters ferrying tourists to see a local volcano when it is active and they fly over the capital every 30 minutes or so. Just 3 of them are driving everyone nuts here. They are small 4-6 passenger light helicopters. Also consider the limits set on drone flights because the sound they make bothers people at tourist attractions (not to mention hazard of falling onto someone). All videos trying to present flying "cars" as a good idea always cut out the sound and play some gentle music instead. These things would be crazy loud if you consider they are just really big drones.

[@mxr572]

where are you getting Epower on the battlefield? gas/ diesel generators. new fuel copters and tilt wings more useful and reliable.

[@tmharperjr]

The V-22 tilt rotor aircraft are currently grounded because they keep crashing. 😂 Where are you getting gas / diesel on a battlefield? ⛽️ It’s explosive, heavy, and expensive. 💥

[@Wm200]

All very cool but the big issue why we will not see them anytime soon is simply the power. Less than a hour flight time?

[@hanneslimbach2505]

Which is more then enough for many situations, emergency helicopters often have gas for less then 45 minutes on regular missions to be able to perform in difficult conditions

[@logicalthoughts]

Would work if they can swap the battery after each use. Better idea for a plane than a car, like Nio.

[@John-nc4bl]

Will an e-drone have any advantage(s) over an e-helicopter-?

[@galactuscausandoimpactus9521]

O custo por hora de vôo 👍

[@gregbumgardner3006]

On that white military craft i saw only one big prop on the back. Were there two on those round wing pillars up front??

[@TeslaBulldotcom]

It should have 4 lift props, I think that was old footage where they were just flying the plane conventionally using just the pusher at the back, as can be seen it can be flown conventionally from an airstrip and will have VTOL capability as well.

[@MegaGeorge1948]

The LiOn battery has a very long way to go to equal the energy density to do the work of a fossil fuel.

[@iliketacos6067]

thats one of the sexiest air planes i have ever seen

[@nexe7271]

How long is extension cord???

[@peterphan227]

Gas combustion engines will NEVER replace good ol' reliable horses and mules. NEVER.

[@sbeasley4263]

What was used to make the power to charge the batteries?

[@fma116]

Weight and Earth's gravity are the main enemies of flying objects. It would be a leap in technology if someone or somebody can invent anti-gravity technology to defeat Earth's gravity.

[@Mixologist-fc4sc]

How is this aircraft going to recharge in the field. Seems very impractical, unless you need to go stealth mode.

[@ristube3319]

4:54 This has to be the future of commercial helicopters.

[@ristube3319]

4:11 3000 feet is basically a half of a mile? The bar was that low for Guinness World Record people?!

[@robertbetancourt1386]

So why is the Civl Air Patrol(Air Force Auxilarry ) using Cessna aircraft made in Mexico with the fewest young pilots?

[@markmaugle4599]

Where do they get the electricity they need on the front line of a war? It is much quicker to fuel up a plane than to recharge it.

[@MarkBarrack]

Hot swap batteries. Shouldn't take longer than refueling. One problem is an entire infrastructure and supply chain needs to be created. Maybe a battery standard so different vehicles can share? Just my thought.

[@timothyjburton]

@@MarkBarrack How does that work out when the weather is super cold. Those Telsa trucks have been doing great in Rockies this winter.... /s

[@textech4056]

Pretty sure there won't be electric flying things until they come up with a light weight battery.

[@robertweekley5926]

High Probability that Hybrid, or Plug-in Hybrid will be a "Starting Point" on that Path, Which Will allow for Multi-Mode Operations: - Pure Electric, Straight Generator, and Supplemental Generator Operational Modes. IE: Whisper Mode, Range Extended Modes, and Battery Emergency Boost Potential. (Like Nitrous, at the track!)

[@oronjoffe]

As the presenter said “it doesn’t have much potenrial use in the military as yet”. It’s work in progress. You need to start somewhere…

[@SpectreNight]

Once battery capacity isn't an issue, this market will explode for military first, then civilian.

[@Tr3vor.7he.K1d]

Move us forward!!!! We could be just using power of wind. Lol

[@user-hg2rz6dr7j]

I’ve questions people, how do you think, where there are take power for it? Coal, oil and nuclear fuel? And how are batteries produced and disposed of?

[@felixaudet5860]

Beetles also feature electric flight, in the form of ionic charge. Shouldn't we copy nature? Advanced aviation doesn't need lifting surfaces.

[@garygeorge9648]

So that plane can fly out around 100 miles and then return to be charged and maintained for a couple of hours before being used again. Maybe good for short hops but that is about all.

[@MarkBarrack]

Seems that's about right. Beta is building out landing pads mostly in the northeast.

[@royalscot4116]

Lots of money in back door defence contracts! Cessnas are not heavy on fuel.

[@athosbulgari6571]

Waiting for next EMBRAER...

[@jamesripley]

I can`t put up with continuous beat , music?

[@GT1million]

And how many "carbon emissions" are produced while digging up scarce metals to produce batteries,solar panels, wind turbines and the energy to recharge said batteries?

[@hanneslimbach2505]

A small fraction compared to the ressources needed by a traditional plane, same goes for EVs, they du much less environmental harm compared to ICE cars

[@tanpengjoo7205]

MADE IN USA ALWAYS POWERFUL N BEAUTIFUL

[@steffanjansenvanvuuren3257]

Does the place the generated the electricity have zero emissions...yes/no?

[@benp439]

I think the military is probably interested in reducing the reliance on fuel. They don't care about the environment very much. Transporting fuel is a vulnerable and expensive part of military logistics. Reducing reliance on one specific fuel is an advantage.

[@trumanhw]

and if a BIRD hits one of the nacelles..? No problemo ? Bc we're talking about manned 'aircraft' at lethal altitudes.

[@wanderleyapparecidovieira2282]

For GOD sake,struts to keep wings on place is thingsof the past ! Drag has a cost...

[@MrFritzzz666]

Rolls Royce is known primarily for its luxury cars. How you could mess that up is just plain confounding.

[@kf7bws]

Rolls Royce has been providing aircraft engines long before the second world war. Every commercial aircraft builder in the world has used Rolls Royce engines.

[@MrFritzzz666]

@@kf7bws And how many 'common folk' know this? virtually NONE. So my assertion stands as accurate in the context of the common man

[@calanmacleod3948]

Zero emissions? Really how did you generator produce the electricity.

[@phasor50]

Can use any means to generate the electricity. wind, solar, coal, nuclear, in the future it will be fusion.

[@Mark-oj8wj]

Zero emissions??? Where do they get the electricity to charge the batteries?

[@hanneslimbach2505]

Obviously as much as possible out of renewable energy, but even when powered by a coal plant electric flight is still much cheaper and more environmental friendly as efficiency of electric propultion is completely in another league.

[@yezhang2947]

Can it win a war?

[@dumitrulangham1721]

It’s a start

[@drgeoffangel5422]

Few emissions where the craft is, but not at the power station!

[@RealMTBAddict]

Nevermind that!!!!😂

[@MachinecoMachines]

You are REALLY uninformed. the "power station" is more and more solar, wind and nuclear, if not hydro and geo thermal. AS solid state batteries improve, storage of peak and over windy and sunny days, will even it out and we can ONCE again rely on the sun- directly instead of waiting 60,000 millions of years for sun grown vegetation to turn into coal and oil. Recently one MAJOR European country experienced enough solar and wind, it could power the entire country!

[@scottleggejr]

​@@MachinecoMachineswell we have a lot to look forward to I suppose. Until then, this is just a massive waste of time and money 😂

[@flyer617]

@@scottleggejr Yeah the horse and buggy people said that about automobiles too.

[@scottleggejr]

@@flyer617 no they didn't. They were thankful that their "horses" didn't get sick and need food and water anymore. This is the dumbest argument when people talk about the merits of EV vs the established standards existing today.

[@hypersonicmonkeybrains3418]

interesting design but they should build a military version that runs on kerosene. Would have better power density.

[@samanthajones4877]

If war breaks out, I hope our enemies would be considerate and allow us at least 8 hours to charge our batteries before the fight begins.

[@tn1509]

All the issue is energy storage as electric motors go up to 95% efficiency and props efficiency isn't far behind.

[@purona2500]

also mass. When an airplane takes off at full fuel load it weighs 400k extra pounds due to fuel, but it lands close to empty. no matter how far you fly those batteries arent getting lighter.

[@duanehorton4680]

Electic???

[@duanehorton4680]

@@purona2500 An A380 can carry nearly 500,000 pounds of fuel.

[@williamdrake2315]

Would think if the batteries hit by shrapnel it would catch fire.

[@zvorenergy]

Batteries just dont have the energy density. However, if you beam the power onto the craft from a C-band maser it changes the game. The best fuel is no fuel. The best battery is no battery.😁

[@lesliecarter4295]

Hydrogen has already superseded this short range technology. Recharge time of a pure Battery powered vehicle is killing this tech for the military.

[@robertnicholls9917]

I was just about to mention this. Why not hydrogen fuel cells? They're much lighter and can get more range.

[@schalkengelbrecht4359]

How can this be zero emissions,? Where does the electricity come from to charge the batteries? US closing nucleur power stations.

[@ristube3319]

10:20 If that was a real thing, I’d sell a kidney tomorrow. 😂

[@daytona3927]

When they can fly from CA to the Philippines let me know.

[@MM-mo2yc]

I suspect it wont be stationed in Alaska.

[@GalenSkinner-iq6ff]

This will be good for movement from point a to b😂.....

[@venturefanatic9262]

Swapping out Precharged Packs could be far quicker than Fluid Refueling.

[@badawesome]

IN MID-AIR?

[@venturefanatic9262]

@@badawesome Take a guess.

[@rogerramjet6134]

Electric planes will make sense when batteries cost less and weigh less than gas. Until then, they are simply curiosities.

[@richarddecker9515]

Is there less heat signature

[@Hyposonic]

Petrol has 100X the energy density of a Li-Ion battery. A 737's range would be 31.6mi instead of 3160mi. That would be 90 stops for a flight from NYC to LAX.

[@hanneslimbach2505]

While it is obvious that electric flight will not work on long range, but works excellent and cheap on short range your comment is nonsense, pure energy density is just one factor, there are lots of others, engine efficiency is at least double in electric motors, then consider approach or taxiing, where a gas turbine still draws 50% of fuel consumption while an electrical aircraft would taxi with 1 or 2 percent power and would even produce power on approach by recouperation as EVs do. With todays usually marketed batteries electric aircraft with range of about 200 miles is absolutely possible, and there are several electric planes flying.

[@Hyposonic]

@@hanneslimbach2505 Nonsense? I design and build these battery systems. My comment merely tempers the hype and shows how far we have to go. If math bothers you, that's your issue. No one said there was no market, just a long road ahead for those of us who dream of electric flying cars in our driveways.

[@norad8u]

Why are the top facing rotors being hidden from view?!

[@PilotsError]

This would be better if they focused on next gen solar charging, sit on the runway all day fly all night!

[@thomasweilbacher1812]

thank you for the post