US Army M-1967 Modernized Load-Carrying Equipment

[@100mmtubeofjustice7]

once again, always well explained for those who have never seen the items.

[@RiflemanMoore]

Many thanks, glad it was of interest!

[@reddevilparatrooper]

Honestly the nylon stuff from the M-1967 gear was the basis for the ALICE system which I used from the mid 1980s until the MOLLE stuff about 2006. By no means they are obsolete. They still work as great combat gear. Even chest rigs were introduced by the Chinese through the Vietnam war back in the late 1960s and early 1970s against the us the Yanks. I modified ALICE gear as an infantryman to make it work for me throughout the years up until MOLLE was introduced to us by the US Army later. I think the British Army introduced mainstream into the US Army along with examples of Israeli adaptations of chest rigs from the late 1970s and early 1980s. I used MOLLE gear in the ACU pattern in Iraq from 06 through 08. I had no problems because they can be attached to my Interceptor Body Armor with multi attachment points in combat. I carried more ammo, batteries, water, and rations into combat for at least 24 hours which was a plus in modern combat. The young folks don't know it. The ALICE system which came from the M-1967 Nylon system can do the same also. I keep an ALICE system fully loaded with magazines and with modern systems loaded for emergencies. They will work in combat because it was developed in combat to begin with.

[@RiflemanMoore]

Oddly the M-1967 kit isn't the direct forbearer of the ALICE system, that would be the load carrying component of the LINCLOE project which was developed in parallel as an all-theatre modernised load carrying equipment whereas M-1967 had, at least originally, been intended as tropical issue only. The standard British equipment is still PLCE as first introduced in 1989 but many other equipment sets are also on issue from MOLLE to the new Virtus system.

[@reddevilparatrooper]

@@RiflemanMooreYou are correct. My Bad. I did read about it on a book that I have called The Last Steel Warrior US M14 Rifle. The LINCLOE system was explained for use with the M14 rifle. Usually its ammunition pouches and general purpose bags and how it looked set up for the rifleman.

[@firepower01]

.... I never knew what that extra strap on the ammo pouches was for. All these years my M1956 ammo pouches have been unsupported!

[@slapout9]

Outstanding video! The main suspenders attached to the side and the ammo straps clipped to the front to help prevent belt sag. Again great video.

[@RiflemanMoore]

Many thanks!

[@FloppaAppreciator]

How is getting the nylon 58 Pattern gear going? You said about 5 months ago you were still getting pieces to complete it. Any luck? Really love your 58 Pattern videos, as an American I like seeing other interpretations of load bearing equipment. I especially like them when they've got such a long service life.

[@RiflemanMoore]

I quite agree, 1958 Pattern soldiered on for a very long time! Unfortunately no luck on the nylon set as of yet, I have the easy to get bits, now looking for the harder to get bits; waterbottle pouch and belt and the nigh on impossible bits; poncho roll and pack.

[@reddevilparatrooper]

Some of the M-1967 nylon H- Harness were still issued up to the late 1980s also. I seen it issued to some guys in Germany and in Ft. Carson in the US. My Dad sent me some old M1956 canvas suspenders which I asked for because the ALICE Y suspenders really sucked at balancing 2 canteens and a butt pack during road marches when carrying the "Medium" or small ALICE combat pack is very uncomfortable. I learned after by taking off the clip hooks and putting 550 or parachute cord will not dig into your back while in the field. The clip on hooks will fuck you up in the field. The US Military produced so many of these that they were so abundant as long as till the early 2000s. I had to keep a "Field Set" and "Garrison Set" for inspections. During inspections of field gear, the inspectors hated to see field modifications on our ALICE gear other than picture perfect equipment. This surprised the inspectors because all of our field gear was brand new and never used. It is what they asked for and what they wanted to see. MOLLE changed all that. But it never changed the inspectors on how clean they should be. That makes them "Assholes" who have never been into the field or combat or just plain "Assholes" with no field or combat experience at that. I still love the M-1967 Field Equipment and ALICE because they still work.

[@RiflemanMoore]

Very interesting to hear M-1967 was on issue so late on, Militaries do tend to be good at issuing stuff out until used up and worn out I suppose. Thanks for the anecdote regarding your field gear, seems odd that customisation for the field was frowned upon. It was permitted and even actively encouraged amongst British troops, certainly in the late 1980s. Perhaps partly due to experience in the Falklands war. It seems odd to me that your field gear would be inspected so rigorously, for damage and wear and tear, that I could understand. But expecting it to be completely uniform, smart and shiny seems weird!

[@reddevilparatrooper]

@@RiflemanMoore= The field equipment inspection was called the "TA-50 Showdown". TA-50 means all of your field equipment from rucksack, load bearing gear, etc. Our company chain of command and platoon chain of command inspected our gear inside out for cleanliness. I had a box of Tide with wash basins a few days before the inspection to scrub and wash every piece that we were issued and it was a pain in the ass. The stuff that they catch which they considered unserviceable we would have to go to CIF the Central Issue Facility where everybody in the division gets issued their TA-50. We would wait for hours or the entire day just to get those items exchanged. The stuff that we exchanged were clean but faded and were about to break on the next field exercise or training deployment. It was easier to get almost an entire brand new set and wash them to look like they have been used as not to get busted by our First Sergeant and Battalion Sergeant Major. We took our "Dirty Field Gear" and hid them in my car or stored them with some of our friends in the next battalion or company if they were not being inspected. We did the same for the other guys too. We borrowed and swapped equipment if they were getting inspected. It was better to do this and pass inspection than to go to CIF or have to pay for missing items on a "Statement of Charges" which would be deducted from your pay for the missing item. If we were to leave the unit and turn in our TA-50 back to CIF. My TA-50 would be thoroughly cleaned, all accounted for, and turned in with no missing items. The stuff that broke were exchanged at CIF 2 weeks before leaving. The good stuff that I had bought or "Acquired" were put into a box as personal items to my next duty station as baggage. This is how American G.I.s got around the "TA-50 showdown". When I finally retired from the Army I had plenty of extra TA-50 that I kept and used them for camping trips.

[@mh53j]

I got a set of early 70s issue 30rd pouches with individual pockets/flaps for each magazine. Was this part of the Marine developed gear? Noticed yours just one main compartment.

[@RiflemanMoore]

They're part of the LINCLOE equipment which developed into ALICE. I'd be interested in putting together a set of LINCLOE at some point.

[@RiflemanMoore]

As a point of interest I understand the Marines did introduce the LINCLOE pouches around 1972 and used them for a time before ALICE proper was introduced.

[@geodkyt]

Much preferred this nylon entrenching cover once i found one in the back of the supply cage versus the rubber e-tool carriers that were US Army standard issue by the 1980s. Of course, since mybe-tool lived on the side of my rucksack anyway, it was somewhat academic - the cover wasn't going to be rubbing a corner on me anyway.

[@henloyes549]

Did the US Marines use parts of the mlce gear in 1969-70?

[@RiflemanMoore]

Not certain of that. I would be surprised if they did as they have their own contracted version of M-1967.

[@historybuff4479]

Awesome video!

[@RiflemanMoore]

Thanks!

[@ezrabrooks12]

Good Video/Info.

[@historicmilitaria1944]

very well described

[@RiflemanMoore]

Many thanks.

[@floydvaughn9666]

There it is.

[@dandesso8926]

I’m pretty sure this stuff was in service with the ADF after Vietnam until the 88 pattern gear came out in auscam

[@RiflemanMoore]

I've not seen any photos or any other references suggesting this to be the case but I'd be interested if you have any you could share.

[@dandesso8926]

Rifleman Moore it’s in a book that I have called “the Australian army at war 1976-2016 and the picture is captioned as a infantry man in 1975 with his jungle greens

[@RiflemanMoore]

I believe I know the illustration you mean, figure A1? It is, unfortunately, a rather poor painting in terms of detail. The standard Australian web equipment of the time was the modified M-1956, as shown in other videos on my channel, not M-1967. During the late '70s and early '80s some US LC-1 equipment would be mixed in by some individuals, including suspenders which is what I think is supposed to be illustrated in The Australian Army at War 1976 - 2016, they do look similar to M-1967 from the front. Australian modified M-1956 would soldier on until supplemented by they early green M1988 equipment around 1989 and then completely replaced with the DP M1988 in the early 1990s.

[@dandesso8926]

Rifleman Moore yes a1 and thank you for correction

[@chfalcon7394]

The best equipment for jungle.

[@mattattack6717]

God video as always bro

[@RiflemanMoore]

Many thanks!

[@wyatth.j.1661]

The original spaghetti straps for the bed roll were better....