US Intel Shows Flawed China Missiles Led Xi to Purge Army

[@MrOkidoke]

灌水 in Chinese (pronounced "guànshuǐ) usually means "irrigation". (It's also the name of a town in Shandong Province.) But the two characters (taken separately) mean "fill" and "water". And, most importantly for your report, "灌水" is also a common Chinese idiom for "artificially increasing weight to cook the books". My guess? The editors (reporters?) at Bloomberg don't speak Chinese. This suggests to me - someone with really basic Chinese - that all the speculation about actual H2O in Chinese rockets wildly misses the mark. I suspect it's more likely that one or more people with responsibility for China's rockets was caught "cooking the books." But using actual water to fill up rockets? My best guess is that's just poor translation.

[@hengzi-cartoon]

Guanshui literally means irrigation, and in the Chinese system it means replacing good things with inferior things, but I think foreign undercovers are very poor in Chinese and can only understand the literal meaning. Directly irrigating the rocket is equivalent to telling others loudly "I am corrupt, come and arrest me quickly". There is certainly a lot of corruption in the Chinese military, but this kind of feeble-minded corruption certainly does not exist.

[@srelma]

I don't even see the point of filling the rocket up with water. If you don't expect the rockets to be inspected, then you don't have to fill them up with anything. If you have inspections, the water is going to be caught just as well as if the rockets were empty.

[@365vr]

but they are so lovely.

[@bretttobin9632]

its tofu dreg china and totally believable

[@huas5350]

LOL. Another propaganda full of loopholes. The fuel of Chinese missiles is basically solid fuel. add water? It made me laugh.

[@bretttobin9632]

yes for sure my totally believable westerner friend

[@sinic1978]

Someone needs to tell Bloomberg's staff that PLA Rocket Force missiles use solid fuel. Bloomberg is a clown show.

[@MrDosonhai]

Not every missile is modern. You don't just toss out old, usable missiles just because you have new ones.

[@sinic1978]

@@MrDosonhai do your homework before you say something. Even the latest variant of the DF5 ICBM the DF5C uses solid fuel.

[@valetudo1569]

No, you're a clown show. Not every missile uses the same kind of fuel, and I doubt you're an expert enough to know each and every kind of missile that China uses and what kind of fuel it has. Clown

[@MrDosonhai]

@@sinic1978 You have reading comprehension diffcultty? Read my comment again.

[@MrDosonhai]

@@sinic1978 Are you mentally disabled or something? Having the latest missiles doesn't mean throwing out older liquid fuel missiles, not when they are still usable. The military doesn't work that way, kid. They don't just throw out usable rockets, including liquid fuel ones, when they are still functional. Every rocket, old or not are a target destroyed on the enemy's side. Even Russia had to use older Soviet missiles first before they used newer ones. You don't throw out billions of dollars worth of equipment just because you have shiny newer toys. High chance 90% of the the PLA's stock are liquid fuel missiles. Do you have any idea how many missiles can be produced per year? Not a lot at all, compared to how fast they are used in a war. Every missile in the stockpile, old or not, liquid fuel or not is valuable and has to be maintained. You are a teenager, admit it. You cannot even comprehend what I'm saying. Bye kid.

[@Crete1943]

What rubbish US "intelligence" feeds the duped.

[@levelazn]

This is cia propaganda

[@DanBurgaud]

Next version: Chinese Missiles are armed with Noodles and shoots condoms.

[@amiigose]

😂😂 lol, CIA modus like that, same like they say russian cant attck ukraine because bla bla blaa😂😂😂

[@mikemwape-bn7pi]

Very hilarious.When you lie you always run out of ideas and begin to fill the gaps with incoherence,That's when you get cuaght. Pants down.And its coming now and will erupt like a Volcano

[@silafaupaulmeredith7251]

US Intel also showed Iraq had WMD. yeah right

[@CalmPug-ez4zx]

Hi chinese bot , china can be easily defeated by any country 😂😂 and china know it

[@SelfProclaimedEmperor]

How did Saddam gas the Kurds? Poison gas is a wmd

[@whywishing]

US intel is a joke!---commented by former foreign affair spokesperson Zhao Lijian on US intelligence about Russia invading Ukraine

[@looinrims]

Do you morons say *anything* else?

[@temper44]

The concept behind missile readiness is that they need to be kept so they can be launched on a short notice. You don't have time to load the missiles with liquid fuels. This loaded with water seems to be a bit of a psy-ops story.

[@BeWater2019]

You don't know China (and the shit people get up to) if you think it is far fetched.

[@Cloudz3468]

Possible for everyone to think they got bad weapons 🤔

[@BeWater2019]

​@@Cloudz3468No, not the Chinese style. CCP is all about being strong and tough, and never showing weakness. Those who say this is a ploy do not understand the CCP. CCP doesn't show weakness unless and until it has got its ass kicked and is on the verge of collapse (like after the Cultural Revolution).

[@NeostormXLMAX]

the rest literally just makes up an insane amount of delusions about their enemies, I will remind you about the "exploding helmets" thing that the western media was talking about

[@amiigose]

​@@Cloudz3468😂😂 lol, typical CIA modus😂😂😂

[@jattdadanda]

They are bunch of toy soldiers and toy models.

[@yiquny]

Fabricating a fake story is a high skilled job which Bloomberg is not yet good at.

[@bretttobin9632]

they need Quora to run the show

[@WmTyndale]

This is Classic Sun Tzu "The Art of War". Make your enemy think you are weak when you are preparing.

[@orangemoonglows2692]

i'm sure u.s. military folks have all read art of war, esp. those who attended war college. i wouldn't be worried about them being faked out by this.

[@aauwhatitdo1582]

Just because Sun Tzu is Chinese, doesn't mean China follows him.

[@friedchicken8440]

The opposite is also true; appear strong when you are weak (Wolf Warrior diplomacy)

[@manishgrg639]

China seems to be strong to you?@@friedchicken8440

[@valetudo1569]

or, it is "make your enemy think you are strong when you are weak"

[@HUgdJHf64]

It’s a relief to know they are out of ammo too. their space program had 70 GEO orbital launches in 2023, but their missile can’t afford fuel, does that make sense to you?

[@HUgdJHf64]

@Alaska_marketget ready for fight, alignment.

[@fupopanda]

Yes, it makes sense to anyone that can use their brain.

[@HUgdJHf64]

@@fupopandaChinese conducted 7000 flight sorties in 2023 over TW without major operational accidents. They are operationally ready.

[@nestorportuguez8964]

They are using water as fuel.. so very good..​@@HUgdJHf64

[@jonronaldflores3007]

@@HUgdJHf64 if they are ready as you said china would have invaded taiwan already but they didnt because THEY ARE NOT READY let that sink in in your thick brain!!!!

[@mattsmith-ri3lp]

US intelligence, now there's an oxymoron

[@Aroncare]

Perhaps that's exactly what they whants US Intel to think.

[@WmTyndale]

This is Classic Sun Tzu "The Art of War". Make your enemy think you are weak when you are preparing.

[@aauwhatitdo1582]

Mr. Big Brain here thinks he's thought of something the analysts didn't. Trust me, the first step to analyzing intel is to make sure that the intel itself isn't an enemy intel operation.

[@MrDosonhai]

Ok, mr "expert".

[@hokroeger]

US intel doesn't think. According to Mike Pompeo, what they do is "lying, cheating, and stealing".

[@WmTyndale]

@@aauwhatitdo1582 No I don't trust U. That's a Con Artist 1 liner. Trust Me (LOL)

[@andycalcaben4285]

I like watching bloomberg news, its like watching a late night comedy show 😂

[@Richard-s7m]

CIA: China intelegency Agency reported that Americans using horse urine to fuel their minutes man rockets.

[@generalsaurkraut3227]

Meanwhile we have spent 1.5 TRILLION on the F-35, which still cannot fly in the rain.

[@rogerfilerable]

Damn...those purged PLA top brass are the only sane ones around😅

[@ArabicReja973]

It's Made in China 🇨🇳 quality. I wonder if their Rocket Force was aiming at Beijing. LOL

[@QuangDo-b9r]

Is this the same US Intel that found WMD in Iraq?

[@AhmetTekin101]

​@@QuangDo-b9r​ not related, irrelevant!

[@Andy-no9zl]

​@@QuangDo-b9r😂

[@fexe9017]

1450 frog

[@HUgdJHf64]

Indian

[@CodeMeat]

I laughed and became very interested in who was the "Chinese asspert" who told Bloomberg those officers got cleaned out because...they filled the rocket with water. Must be a genius salesman who can sell such a "top secret" story...and know the American audiences will buy it...

[@Sodapop-rd5ku]

Keep in mind 90% (I'm being very kind saying only 90%) are usually talking BS Remember how many of these "experts" got the Russian invasion of Ukraine wrong (still most of them get it wrong)

[@Sahab937]

❤❤

[@nxkm813]

Genius salesman 😂😂😂

[@WingkKong]

They fill it will coca-cola

[@AmitKumar-tg7of]

Rebecca is so happy!! Why??

[@WalkOverHotCoal]

Have you ever wondered why village idiots always looks happy?

[@Desstrik]

She sleeps with White Men.. not minority men.

[@todorkolev7565]

she's a rich young woman. The world is her oyster :)

[@ericp1139]

Is this the same US intel that said Ukraine would win?

[@tiberianexcalibur]

I doubt this is true for a country that develops and mass produce hypersonic missiles.

[@coreysanders7140]

They can't even produce high-quality jet engines. China is the land of shortcuts and facades.

[@jackofyuma3690]

Look to history this kind of thing has happened in the past with naval shells filled with sand

[@zehechen920]

​​@TheFansta"made in America" lol😂 oops nothing in America is made in America even the made in America sticker and sign is made in China. Only thing made in America is gender study and how to lose every war you fight😂

[@tiberianexcalibur]

@TheFansta just don’t buy from cheap brands like Stellantis, Ford, and GM. Most of those are made in USA.

[@addex1236]

​@@zehechen920lose every war except both world wars the cold war the Koran war the ear 1812 the Mexican American war Iraq we got to the captial of in three days. God I know you Chinese bots are bright but that's just incredible that you actual said that

[@arnodrygala965]

Great to see the China 50 cent army going into overdrive in the comments section!😂

[@team3am149]

How to destroy and discredit your entire reputation in just one article.

[@michaelshih8163]

I bought a toy missile for my grandson from Amazon and it is also filled with water.

[@leehale5828]

Poisoned, toothpaste, baby formula, pet food, Covid 19 and now water-fueled missiles. What will they think of next?

[@QuangDo-b9r]

Is this the same US Intel that found WMD in Iraq?

[@leehale5828]

I'll bet Xi hopes it is, so he can reinstate all his generals and his former minister of defense.@@QuangDo-b9r

[@HUgdJHf64]

Yet they have enough fuel for 70 high orbital space launches in 2023 That makes sense?

[@kyungshim6483]

resale of sewer oil as fresh cooking oil. China is always innovating.

[@Mudshovel-xx6se]

@@QuangDo-b9ryou mean 20 years ago? No it’s a whole new generation. One that correctly called the Russian invasion of Ukraine and Iran and North Korea supplying them.

[@GYM_LOVER-q5r]

Free Chinese people

[@AlreadyHere-]

Us media never misses an opportunity to push a political agenda

[@QuangDo-b9r]

Is this the same US Intel that found WMD in Iraq? @theodoreolson8529

[@QuangDo-b9r]

Is this the same US Intel that found WMD in Iraq? @theodoreolson8529

[@MrDosonhai]

As if China has never painted the US in a bad light. Are you serious with that stupid remark? At least the US is telling you truthful news, not fake news spewing out of the CCP's mouthpiece everyday of the week.

[@valetudo1569]

Sorry that you don't like the bad news about China so you have to call it a "political agenda". P.S. - all of China's domestic news is constantly bad news about the US. Thats the real political agenda. This is actual reported news

[@amunra5330]

Its a fake. @theodoreolson8529

[@MrHealthWellness]

So they’ve found a weakness and are working to rectify it. Seems like a win for them.

[@QuangDo-b9r]

Is this the same US Intel that found WMD in Iraq?

[@HUgdJHf64]

@@QuangDo-b9rthey found laundry detergent 😅

[@valetudo1569]

Lmao yeah ok, corruption so bad that they have missiles filled with water.... what a big "win"

[@MAHORAGADAOPPSTOPPA]

​@@valetudo1569yeah and they are dealing with it? Is that bad?

[@addex1236]

​@@MAHORAGADAOPPSTOPPAthe fact it even happend is bad 😂😂 like wow I was worried about China I know it's goverment cruel and corrupt but I can apparently add stupid to the list like pal there is no saving face for this like wow and I know I said China but I meant east Taiwan my bad I felt petty for the fake country

[@munawarshahafridi7921]

It's not a time to win a war with speculation but with power like Chinese power 💪💪💪. Taiwan is waiting for China to be China ❤

[@mikemwape-bn7pi]

Dont forget the Big snake sent by Jesus on the KAABA to warn Allah to spread Islam in the World but to preach about him as Zionist and not as Catholic bcz America may lose allies in Europe.Surprise is:big Snake seemms to be relaxing on the KAABA with no Muslims scamparing for safety or appear to have disappeard in thin air or maybe had gone To Wdc to seek an audience with Biden over the WMD used by the Jesuits in Gaza

[@Magazinechannel]

perfectly Made in china

[@MrDCrosswell]

It's been a little sad, for me, to watch Bloomberg degrade into a cheap propaganda rag over the years.

[@CalmPug-ez4zx]

Hi chinese bot

[@MrDCrosswell]

Oh! Great comeback! Full of elucidating commmentary founded on indisputable fact. How anybody could believe a massive purchaser of energy like China would need to fill their missile fuel reservoirs with water, for no discernable reason when they could far more easily leave them empty, is something that I find stunningly moronic. Perhaps that's why you are incapable of coherent commentary? @@CalmPug-ez4zx

[@MAHORAGADAOPPSTOPPA]

​@@CalmPug-ez4zxhi american bot

[@jakernaught]

I understand that this video and article do not cite sources, but I wouldn't be so quick to call this propaganda. The claim about rockets being filled with water can very well be attributed to corruption within the People's Liberation Army, as it is either a possible sabotage against China, a metaphorical construct about China appearing weak to their adversaries or just missile preparation error.

[@SandhyaTayshetye]

Lol someone is going to sell shit to Australia😂😂

[@acuantjahyadi7393]

Apa yang kalian tau media barat ? 😂😂 🖕🖕

[@tajeshkalia1293]

How can they check their flaws before the Chinese can who are actually manufacturing and supervising it that makes no sense?

[@Indigenous79]

I dont understand Americans they keep talking like Chinese equipment is shit but if you read all the Americans reviews on wish there so ecstatic with the products theyve bought.....go figure 🤔

[@joso7228]

because they have to sell decent stuff when exporting - try a chinese market sometime

[@bretttobin9632]

tofu dreg comrade

[@lvill3633]

this is where "paper dragon" came from.

[@taddyllaneta2020]

No one beats the US when it comes to corruption. 200 dollar toilet seats are the standard 😂😂😂

[@365vr]

I am really suprised that most comments did not buy it.

[@constantinmilitaru]

China’s 🇨🇳 ICBM’s aren’t even operational… wait what? Why?

[@Minister1Little]

Maybe those military higher ups knew that that Chi would attack Taiwan and didn't want it to happen, I think they might be heroes

[@joshuacabrera4394]

If i turn my brain off this makes sense.

[@philipcoffman4372]

You gotta understand they said Russia has nothing but rust and they have state of the art , alien level meet avengers weapons that were nothing but poof 💨 😂

[@evanssooklal1620]

Don’t laugh.. at least they are not being invaded from their southern border.

[@justapedn1]

What happens to the officers when they’re “purged?”

[@timetraveller2300]

it's amazing they can talk about these fantasies with straight faces.

[@365vr]

i like their sweet smile

[@dannylesbile8592]

Is there an action figure of Xi in that car it looks so dam funny 😂

[@vipulchaturvedi996]

China is a cruel comical joke on itself. But they take their joke seriously and religiously. And that s another comedy. The episodes are endless.

[@kennethkueh1256]

US intel knows what is going on in the Chinese admin? WTF is that?

[@SelfProclaimedEmperor]

Thats...how espionage works

[@OlyPhoenix86]

China and Russia is suppose to be the west’s biggest adversaries… but both are paper tigers.

[@huas5350]

The term "paper tiger" was coined by the Chinese 😅

[@hilarymubanga2070]

Paper Tigers? The US is the real paper Tiger.

[@guchengye7788]

😂😂😂

[@MAHORAGADAOPPSTOPPA]

Yet at the same time they are going to destroy the west so called western media says Fear mongering.

[@cspdx11]

Lol. NATO is a joke

[@Justiceforall1010]

Might not be true

[@FemFantastic2.0]

Can you imagine the army being so corrupt that they fill the rockets with water instead of fuel?

[@BeWater2019]

Yes. Has happened before, over a century ago. Nothing new under the sun.

[@lynxorl4015]

no, I cannot. That's why I don't believe this "intel."

[@johnc1873]

Can you imagine being to gullible to believe “Washington Intel” LOLOL

[@timetraveller2300]

@@BeWater2019 yes. propaganda is nothing new.

[@mikemwape-bn7pi]

Sun Tzu all the waaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyy!

[@ogone1465]

America and truth😂

[@tonyp2865]

US Intel LOL Bloomberg has been told. Told by whom? This is just trash talk.

[@Prof.DrObad]

East pole against West.

[@tttuu3309]

We all heard that about Russia stop the lies and underestimate counterparts

[@constantinmilitaru]

92F here… i seriously doubt this is true… there’s no way water will ever enter a ICBM tank… the rocket 🚀 fuel is filtered many times before entering the rocket off site… and the mix of all solid fuels need to be at there highest quality.

[@yokeshkaliaperumal2012]

Pretty sure there's a logical explanation.

[@jetli740]

liquid try to translate in other language> very often you get water

[@wayned69]

Rather tell us why your Defense Secretary was on AWOL...hahaha

[@alaya1472]

一三五崩溃, 二四六威胁 周日偏二甲肼煮火锅🤣

[@tomhenry897]

And tighten his control of the army

[@AhmetTekin101]

Chinese 🇨🇳 rockets were fueled by water. What a surprise! Most of military analystss thought they were fueled by coal.

[@XTSu-sl1bb]

They sound capable to me

[@KuncoroAdi1980]

at least already has hydrogen and oxygen for fuel ...

[@timetraveller2300]

and you think it's true?

[@First4America]

I wonder who "told" Bloomberg???

[@jxmai7687]

untold sources

[@jetli740]

@@jxmai7687 that got to be 100% creditable😂😂😂

[@naavikp6163]

Perfect story to make someone undercover or a spy😄

[@teamermia7741]

China sanctioning companies that do not operate in China makes sense if said companies do operate in Taiwan. It puts Western nations who must authorize those companies sales in the position of breaching Chinese sovereignty, under the conditions of their own stated position on Taiwan's status. So the Chinese sanctions, though physically ineffective, do lay the foundations of a very strong diplomatic complaint.

[@Peekpeter45]

Hydrogen cell missile Runs on water

[@UFOBustersThatUfoShowAustralia]

I recon if china think about starting a war they may wanna reconsider 😂 Tonya toys R You

[@zentai6921]

From the smallest e-waste to advanced missles, if its “made in china” its guaranteed unreliable 🤣🤣🤣

[@yiquny]

The mere fact that you believe this fake news tells, your brain is NOT reliable.

[@khoi83]

Not Rocket. Water force!

[@shawnm8232]

And when they mean purge...

[@sheesh4488]

How did the us get water into those rockets damn

[@Winters777]

Running out of gutter oil 😂😂😂

[@Kashmir_Se]

Today I wasted 1:22 of my time watching this nonsense. Nonsense news

[@sabinovalencia8688]

Just like water gun 😂😂😂

[@danjohnston9037]

No " Paper Tiger " Comments ???

[@MustachoDude]

Its for the Better i wish those Tanks and missile has a sign which says MADE IN CHINA

[@jungletunes3923]

Chinese missiles😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@kw8966]

The "news" and discussions make no sense to me.

[@ascoaptwwasmqx2840]

Will Choong and Haidi by layoff soon and replace with Indians looking anchor?

[@harleydavidson4254]

"US Intel" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@leojones22]

what US intel ? , more like awful Hollywood script

[@pushslice]

As a Filipino who’s been riddled with worry about the PLA’s nonstop incursions and aggressions the past years….. should I ease up a bit? May be good for my blood pressure to re-set expectations. Perhaps those water cannons they shot at our small supply vessels …was actually the best they’ve got?!? Cannons ….filled with water…. instead of lead rounds..

[@harem_lord-FFM]

The current Philippine leadership is a clown show. The Southern (Bisaya) part of the country is even threatening to secede.

[@keosad8196]

As a Filipino, stop subscribing to propagandic news outlet

[@amunra5330]

I heard they were corrupted.

[@JayLieu]

Where did she get all the infos ? Who builds rockets filled with water.

[@AdamWest-qp3yp]

😂.. but they’re taking Taiwan.. we got these kind of kinks worked out long ago… sloppy very sloppy

[@389293912]

Moonshine in the missiles.

[@leecheelek]

Just like Chinese firms being sanctioned by the US Govt., the same is now happening with American firms sanctioned by the PRC (China). China being a world major trader can also enforce their laws against countries which breaks the Chinese sanctions. You trade and face seizure at your peril.

[@delanofernandes6471]

Look up how much of worlds rare earths come from china and how much EU and US imports from china and what rare earths are needed for. You will understand how fucked we are.

[@MarekKolenda-cr8vr]

New year starting maybe not last one

[@QuangDo-b9r]

Is this the same US Intel that found WMD in Iraq?

[@aauwhatitdo1582]

@@QuangDo-b9r Spamming it doesn't make it relevant, subhuman

[@fairgolfer]

Tofu missles

[@foodiebalap1480]

U better Made a reasonable fiction ,how much the cost of fuel until they wanted corrupt it, they would better corrupted in the quality n quality of the missiles

[@Jimmy2toes4u]

Que the Chinese wolf warrior apologists. Though filled with water makes no sense….

[@Keithmwango]

American propaganda.

[@joekhatib3798]

TOFU!!! 😂🤣😂🤣😂

[@delanofernandes6471]

Imagen losing to hilltribes

[@blessingnkhosi8252]

Dictatorship is not good not everyone is happy with you coz people have no say ,man from Gods creation was given the freedom to choose so man will find ways and means to show his an happyness

[@Buttersausage]

How embarrassing lmao

[@lastChang]

Xi Jinping's military purge as a response to PLA corruption is like El Chapo declaring war on Sinaloa for drug trafficking. Lol

[@露透社]

机器人每天住在评论区

[@露透社]

废渣

[@QuangDo-b9r]

Is this the same US Intel that found WMD in Iraq?

[@fexe9017]

1450 frog

[@AhmetTekin101]

​@@QuangDo-b9rI am not a psychologist, but I think your mom didn't hug you enough when you were a child. This might have caused your symptoms of low self esteem.