US Pilot Throttles B-52 Engines to Their Limits During Scary Smoky Takeoffs

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10 ай бұрын

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@mikeunum
@mikeunum 8 ай бұрын
All this would NOT be possible without the really amazing ground crews, PLEASE never forget that ! ! !
@spacelinx
@spacelinx 9 ай бұрын
My dad was a navigator on B-47's and later the B-52's during his whole career with deployments ranging from Texas air bases to Altus AFB during the Cuban Missile Crisis to Guam during the Vietnam War days. Those 2-mile takeoff requirements are no joke. He said the runway at Guam was less than adequate to take off from and the plane would often stall out over the cliff edge and dip into the ocean. According to him, there was even a USN submarine off that coast whose mission was rescue and salvage ops should a bomber go in the drink. He said his biggest nightmares from those days wasn't from combat, but the Guam takeoffs and midair refueling ops. He was a very accomplished individual who grew up on a poor farm in Oklahoma, worked his ass off to graduate college with a master's in cartography and history, to settling down after 20+ years in the service. He was full of life lessons forged from his days of hard, dedicated work.
@craigmclane5610
@craigmclane5610 9 ай бұрын
Guam's runway was notorious because both ends of it were higher than the middle, meaning that, after being sure you were accelerating properly on the intial, downhill run, you would find your airspeed either NOT increasing toward flying speed...or actually LOSING a knot or two as you started up the hill. The high ambient temperature and heavy fuel and weapons loads during the war only made this worse! RESPECT for your dad!
@19021964ify
@19021964ify 8 ай бұрын
This one deserves all our respect, congratulations on keeping such good memories of Father.
@Secretarian
@Secretarian 9 ай бұрын
Back in the 1970s, my family was late on its way to the airshow at the local airbase. We were a mile north of the base when suddenly we saw a B-52 that had come from Minot descend out of the cloud base (probably 2,000 ft AGL). It couldn't land due to lack of runway length, so it did one overflight of the airfield and then disappeared. At that distance it was sight to behold, a big slow moving behemoth. What I find most amazing about this aircraft is that the prototype flew BEFORE the Korean War ended, and (with upgrades) it is still flying 70 years later. Truly the GOAT bomber.
@spacelinx
@spacelinx 9 ай бұрын
Definitely. It’s only the H model that’s in service now I believe. It’s the newest variant of a tried and true platform, but with improved structural strength compared with the older variants, which is why it’s been around for so long. I grew up around Carswell AFB, and got to watch those things take off, land, and taxi. They’re absolutely huge, and their engines are some of the loudest ever, even more than a fighter at full afterburner in my opinion.
@chrismair8161
@chrismair8161 8 ай бұрын
The only Aircraft to have 3 Generations fly the same plane. Cheers Boys!
@larryrobertson4099
@larryrobertson4099 10 ай бұрын
Okay, I'm another old dog that flew B52s but I flew the B52G in SEA combat as a copilot then on to SAC alert as the AC. It didn't take me 6 years to upgrade to pilot. All it took for me to upgrade was my AC hours in a EC47 in Vietnam and a proficiency in air refueling, a real challenge due to the lack of ailerons on the 'G'. We had spoilers tied to the yoke. And, while we injected 10.000 pounds of water for 90 seconds on takeoff to get our BUFF off the ground, the 'H' models, those in this video, do not use water. They have engines that more than double the thrust of the 'G's I flew. Even with water, our thrust maxed out at 14,700 pounds per engine as I remember it. The 'H' started out at around 20,000 pounds per engine.
@fdhicks69
@fdhicks69 10 ай бұрын
17,000 for TF33s on B52’s. You can get more out of a TF33 but they are limited in B52 application due to design limitations of the airframe, the tail specifically.
@larryrobertson4099
@larryrobertson4099 9 ай бұрын
@@fdhicks69 Yeah, I just heard that in another KZbin video. I thought they were closer to 20,000 pounds. But even at 17,000 pounds of thrust, you can see why they don't need water injection for a takeoff. And I bet they don't need the full two miles of runway either like my 'G; did every time.
@petuniasevan
@petuniasevan 9 ай бұрын
Sort of funny story for you: I went out to my G one bright and early Louisiana morning in the mid 80s and to my surprise, I saw Sgt. X up on a stand, working hard on his G, right at the right wing root. Keep in mind this guy was an expert crew chief with 12 years on B-52Gs. Now, his relief was there but he kept working. Turns out that Sgt. X had a brain fart and he mistook the fuel tank filler cap (back on the wing root and painted bright red) for the water injection filler cap (right there on the a/c body in easy reach and marked as such). Yeah, he was there ALL DAY helping purge that fuel tank, per orders. I'm so glad I saw that because it meant it was something I would NEVER forget to double check. Rules for crew chiefs: Murphy was an optimist. You are always short the part you need. That visiting aircrew has myopia where your marshaling wands are concerned. Hydraulic leaks always aim at your uniform. The aircrew does not know why their air refuel had "excessive overspray". You will, soon as you try to ground refuel. Engine cowlings: pound to fit, paint to match.
@larryrobertson4099
@larryrobertson4099 9 ай бұрын
​@@petuniasevan ' Engine cowlings: pound to fit, paint to match.' , good one. I've seen it but very disconcerting to the casual aircrew observer.
@dougdegraff5892
@dougdegraff5892 9 ай бұрын
We had a crew chief at Castle AFB in the late 70s we called Buffarilla he could install a G model engine ring cowl by himself. And he was told to stop installing drag shoots by putting them on his shoulder and climbing the tail stand, not that they were worried he hurt himself, but he was breaking the the steps of the ladders due to excessive weight. 😂😂😂. I don’t really think he knew his own strength, I once saw him pick up a V8 engine block tuck it under one arm and walk away like it was a loaf of bread..
@mitoys3628
@mitoys3628 10 ай бұрын
I flew the "B" ,"C" and "D" Models first in 1957 and a few years after that ,but non of the latter models. They were very reliable and I flew many of those long airborne flights. Not as manueverable as the B-47's, I flew before, but found it easy to fly and control. Love the old girl.
@iansampson2492
@iansampson2492 10 ай бұрын
You didnt happen to know a guy named John Sweet...B47 pilot...I know long shot..
@mitoys3628
@mitoys3628 10 ай бұрын
@@iansampson2492 I flew B-47's at Barksdale in 1955 . Cant place your John Sweet , but the name rings a bell. I flew B.52's in Castle AFB, Westover AFB and Mc Coy AFB , so may have met along the way.
@williamfeldner9356
@williamfeldner9356 10 ай бұрын
Salute to you, Sir!
@godblessamerica7048
@godblessamerica7048 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for your service, sir!🇺🇸🫡🪖
@kennywebb7932
@kennywebb7932 9 ай бұрын
Thank You for your Service
@Schrankerle
@Schrankerle 9 ай бұрын
Fortunate to be protected by gentlemen flying and crewing these awesome machines. Even more kudos to their ground crews and mechanics who keep them up there. Vielen Dank.
@user-uu6jx7ju6b
@user-uu6jx7ju6b 7 ай бұрын
Yet, the US army got pounded hard in Afghanistan by real men using mediaeval weapons, you ain't protected at all.
@robertnilla
@robertnilla 9 ай бұрын
much respect for all those mechanics who repair, fix, maintain such complex systems to keep all those aircraft trouble free and in the air!! A major war will be the true test of all the good maintenance systems! Bravo to all you good men!!
@turnbuckle
@turnbuckle 9 ай бұрын
Yes. Let's indeed have a major war to test out our toys. And it's coming. We may even test out our nukes, what fun!
@spacelinx
@spacelinx 9 ай бұрын
We've been at war constantly since the Korean War, often declared by lies and excuses to get involved in the affairs of others that had nothing to do with the safety and security of the US to begin with. The only real winners of them are the defense industry and corporations whose interests promoted these wars. Where have you been?
@turnbuckle
@turnbuckle 9 ай бұрын
@@spacelinx I agree with you completely. My post to robertnilla was mocking.
@danielgregory3295
@danielgregory3295 9 ай бұрын
And don't forget the women...😊
@earlsmall9808
@earlsmall9808 9 ай бұрын
Me too
@chrisbaker2903
@chrisbaker2903 8 ай бұрын
These and other flying crews are why I don't get upset when the members or used to be members of the other services call it "The Chair Force". I just smile and say "yes, we do most of our best work sitting down.". Many of them have gone away mumbling to themselves about the smart assed former air force member. I never got to fly in one but I spent many hot summers days working inside the B-52C and B-52D models we had at March AFB back in 1970/1971. I've watched many a MITO takeoff caused usually by an operational ready inspection. BTW MITO is short for minimum interval take off. There was usually one lifting off, one halfway down the runway and the 4th following just starting it's takeoff roll. That last one and the KC-135 refueling planes taking off as soon as they could, encountered a lot of turbulence as shown by their wobbling back and forth as they climbed out. edit: by the way, back when I was at March, a guard told me they were issued the latest and greatest versions of the M-16 (which evolved into the M4) but were not issued any ammunition. I ran into that same craziness when I was assigned to guard a shipment in a C-130 from the Philippines to Stateside. A pretty stupid idea to me. If I was in charge of all our military branches a LOADED firearm would be part of the people's uniforms unless there was a safety reason for not having it, like an electrician or a maintenance person who had to crawl into the interior of a wing to fix something inside. Every uniform, Included dress uniforms and regular uniforms and fatigues, which I think they call "battle dress" these days but I got out over 25 years ago and a lot has changed.
@jonc7744
@jonc7744 9 ай бұрын
I was a crew chief on B-52's from 1970 thru 1974. Great aircraft. I never had a set of fatigues that were not oil stained. Loved that aircraft.
@roguemodel
@roguemodel 9 ай бұрын
My dad flew the B-52 in the 1960s and early 70s after which he was transferred to SAC HQ in Omaha to become the deputy director of bomber maintenance and eventually became the director. We were stationed at Griffis AFB in Rome, NY. He did two tours in Vietnam and flew over 120 combat missions. During an alert, I witnessed the MITO takeoff during the late 60s. The runway at Griffiss was 12,000 feet long. The planes entered the runway in a staggered formation and began their roll-off. They were very close, less than 500 feet in separation. The noise was unbearable, even watching from Base Ops. They hit the end of the runway and began water injecting. It was one of the most unbelievable sights I have ever witnessed. Each plane would peel left and right to mitigate wake turbulence. Remember, each plane carried live but not armed nuclear weapons. That would occur close to the fail-safe point. It was a different time.
@librandancer
@librandancer 10 ай бұрын
There is a timeless beauty about the B-52
@barrylenihan8032
@barrylenihan8032 10 ай бұрын
'Beauty' is not a term I would use when one considers it's purpose. 'Awesome' might be more appropriate.
@RSF-DiscoveryTime
@RSF-DiscoveryTime 9 ай бұрын
If you want to sell poetry in Hades, you're off to a good start. The B-52 is a most useful tool for killing human beings. Where you found the word "beauty" in all this is beyond my understanding.
@mikeguthrie5432
@mikeguthrie5432 10 ай бұрын
As an older "fossil" mech on older B-52 F models, back in the 60's, I LOVE watching these videos of all the new stuff that is flyin' around! "Keep 'em flying folks"!
@godblessamerica7048
@godblessamerica7048 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for your service, sir! 🇺🇸🫡🪖
@weskal5490
@weskal5490 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for your service sir.
@mikeguthrie5432
@mikeguthrie5432 9 ай бұрын
@@godblessamerica7048 I look at it as my duty to our country, and in appreciation for all the past and present folks that serve, and have served and given their lives.
@mikeguthrie5432
@mikeguthrie5432 9 ай бұрын
@@weskal5490 I felt it was my duty to serve, not just for our current folks, but for all service folks that went before, and especially those who gave their lives.
@csulb75
@csulb75 9 ай бұрын
I used to live directly under the glidepath of B-52s when I lived in Merced, CA , back in the late 70s. The planes were practicing landings at the now defunct Castle AFB in Atwater, CA. They flew about 1,000 feet directly over my house and were loud enough to wake the deaf. Those engines screamed power and were music to this USAF veteran's ears.
@mikeymasticator5948
@mikeymasticator5948 9 ай бұрын
Ditto over Hampton Beach NH when they practice out of Pease AFB in the early 80's - lots of smoke! :)
@gonzob9609
@gonzob9609 9 ай бұрын
Left Castle in 76 for Dyess. Loved Merced back then.
@lyndalosen9183
@lyndalosen9183 9 ай бұрын
Ditto Carswell AFB in the 80’s. Now it’s mostly F 35s flying over my house. I love it
@randyoftheredwoods2205
@randyoftheredwoods2205 9 ай бұрын
Memories for me also. As a forester in Michigan's U.P., I would be out in the wilderness working and low flying B-52's from Kincheloe air base would wake up the quiet sereneness, so low I imagined I could see the rivets. My sincere thanks and honor to our military staff and their greatness.
@N8570E
@N8570E 9 ай бұрын
For me, this video is awesome! And then some. It brings back such memories. 6 years in the Army (only 2 active duty), 3 daughters in the Air Force, and three grandchildren, plus a tour of an Army missile base near the north side of Chicago, Illinois (O'Hare airport or Skokie?), when I was in junior high school, 1957. Walking around Minot AFB, Minot, ND, and Ellsworth AFB, Rapid City, SD. Those were long walks! 'Beyond this point the use of deadly force is authorized' stenciled in red on the ground where I often walked. Cockpit tours of the B-52. Sitting with an instructor in each of the four crew positions for the B-1 cockpit training module (open house). F-15 takeoffs, Lakenheath AFB, England. F-22 takeoffs, Langley AFB, VA, and allowed to take supervised pictures of an F-22 in the hangar. Boeing 747 (Air Force One at times) tours of the inside, Andrews AFB, Maryland. One was private, just for my wife and I. At the other one, our picture was taken as we exited the front of the aircraft, for a souvenir. I'm in Hog Heaven! Thank you for your efforts. May you and yours stay well and prosper. Terry
@JWells-mz1jr
@JWells-mz1jr 10 ай бұрын
The engine have already been upgraded for the "H" model. I agree that the older models were dirty. The current engines will be even cleaner when the new RR engines are installed. I flew both models for 23 years. It has saved MANY lives. From a retired colonel!
@duboseq1
@duboseq1 9 ай бұрын
Those older engines had water injection to generate steam and increase power on take off. That's what gives that smokey appearance.
@PeterMayer
@PeterMayer 9 ай бұрын
Wright-Patterson Air Force Museum has one on some pedestals. Wicked looking.
@michaelbowers6831
@michaelbowers6831 9 ай бұрын
Back in 1973-1975, I was a USAF security policeman and assigned to guard the nuclear loaded B-52's at Minot AFB. I was so impressed by the planes themselves but more so, the dedicated flight crews who were on alert. I remember the time during the Israeli-Arab war in 1973, where the alert B-52s and their crews taxied there B-52's to the actual runway and sat there all day and night ready to take off. Fond memories. Nothing but respect for the B-52s, their crews, maintenance crews and my fellow security police team that use to be the 91st Security Squadron!!
@badguy5554
@badguy5554 4 ай бұрын
I remember that "show of force" to the Russian satellites. I got the call about 3:00AM to report to the flight line. One of my duties was to "check in" all the B-52 crews to insure they were assigned to an aircraft being readied for flight. The Alert aircraft were already lined up at the end of the runway. They were soon joined by the other B-52's that were made ready to fly.
@donnborden1423
@donnborden1423 9 ай бұрын
Numerous errors noted, this depicts the the final series of the aircraft - the "H" model which was powered by the early turbo fan engines. Water injection was not employed there. "Shotgun" starts are/were smoky and worked - usually. None of the models require "2 miles" of runway for take-off. As experience with turban engines grew the concept of reduced thrust take-off thrust was conceived to extend engine life and reduce maintenance became widely accepted throughout the aviation industry. Rarely are throttles set " to Their Limits During Scary Smoky Takeoffs". And, the "smoky takeoffs" mostly disappeared when the water injection went away. As previously noted herein if "six years" were required to train a B-52 crew I believe the system would have been bogged down with FEB's (flying evaluation boards). It doesn't happen that way. Granted, training in combat operations is a continuous activity just as practice is for musicians and athletes. I was very fortunate to have operated large Boeing aircraft for forty years, the first five of those years as a crew member and pilot instructor on various models of the B-52.
@bobmcguirk7272
@bobmcguirk7272 10 ай бұрын
4:46. These are H model B-52s. They have turbofan engines. The G models had turbojet engines which had less power. H-models do not have water injection systems.
@tiigalilly5320
@tiigalilly5320 10 ай бұрын
Absolutely Awesome aviation preparations and flying 😎
@VulcanOnWheels
@VulcanOnWheels 8 ай бұрын
With this much information to convey, I would have appreciated a voiceover.
@mitoys3628
@mitoys3628 9 ай бұрын
Thank you all for the thumbs up and salutes I really do appreciate it. But, I must give a GIANT Salute to our crews that kept these great birds going during that time and our butts safe. They were the ones out in the wet and cold during long hours turning wrenches and doing what needed to be done . Without these super dedicated people we could not have completed our missions . If you are still with us " Big Salute " , if not R.I.P. dear brothers.
@rolandemartin854
@rolandemartin854 9 ай бұрын
Appreciate the accolades, Never heard that much about what we did while in the service, seemed like we were the lowest of the lowest most of the time. Again many thanks Sir.
@mitoys3628
@mitoys3628 9 ай бұрын
@@rolandemartin854 Seems like many have been forgotten over the period of time. Salute to all of those who have served.
@spacelinx
@spacelinx 9 ай бұрын
The aircraft maintenance crews are unfortunately the invisible heroes who make the missions possible. I extend my respects to them too.
@steveperry1344
@steveperry1344 9 ай бұрын
i enjoy seeing and hearing B-52s taking off. one of my jobs in the air force around 1970 was ground to air communication to the planes over europe.
@Old-bold-pilot
@Old-bold-pilot 10 ай бұрын
Most fantastic aircraft ever built. Nothing can match the first time you grab 8 throttles and push forward..
@beachbum4691
@beachbum4691 10 ай бұрын
ref your B-52 comment..... Yup, I was just thinking eight throttles, eight sets of dials and gauges, eight fuel lines to monitor? That's a very big leap up from four of everything...........beyond doubt an incredible machine: bordering the unbelievable for its design date, just 10 years after the end of World War II..........
@Vile-Flesh
@Vile-Flesh 9 ай бұрын
Balls to the wall! (to the thrust gates really but still, pretty damn awesome)
@dotmurphy7279
@dotmurphy7279 9 ай бұрын
Bet it beats dragsters all hollow.
@bv9613
@bv9613 9 ай бұрын
Aweaome
@terrybryant
@terrybryant 9 ай бұрын
Those Ariel fueling operations are the most dangerous operation these aircrews do other than combat missions of course. Just an amazing marvel of aviation technology.
@paulzki8456
@paulzki8456 9 ай бұрын
LOVE THE SMELL OF JP4 in the mornings
@walterquinnhall5388
@walterquinnhall5388 10 ай бұрын
As a fan of the USA 🇺🇸🦅🏛️🌉🗽military🔫🚁✈️👮👩‍✈️ and an enthusiast of B-52✈️ myself, I admire👏👍🙂 the video 🎥📲📀📼about the Stratosphere Fortress bomber ✈️you made. Hello and greetings from Walter of New Zealand 🇳🇿🐑🏡🐄🏔️ and Australia🇦🇺🌏🦘🌳🐨🌲🦜🌊🐳🚢🐬
@jeffpalmer5502
@jeffpalmer5502 9 ай бұрын
My dad started at Boeing on B-52 #11. Transfered to the Dash8, 707, then 747s. Watched the First 47 fly with him! Potentially the B-52 might be in the air as long as the 747. Unreal. Awesome.
@craigmclane5610
@craigmclane5610 9 ай бұрын
The 747 first flew in 1969. By that time, the B-52 had already been flying for 17 years (and had been deployed to frontline squadrons for 15 years). That gives it a considerable head start. It would be more accurate to suggest that, if the existing 747s (since they're out-of-production now) are well-cared-for, they might be able to last as long as the B-52 (which the USAF is about to re-engine).
@GregSr
@GregSr 10 ай бұрын
Excellent video. From '76 to '80 I was stationed at a SAC base in northern Maine - Loring AFB. We had 9 B-52H models fully loaded with nukes and fuel on 24 hour alert. We also had 9 KC-135 air refueling tankers to support the bombers. Our mobile KC-135 flight simulator was parked near the flightline so the crews could get to their planes quickly whenever the klaxon started screaming. The video referred to "MIT"'s for minimum interval takeoffs. We always referred to Minimum Interval Takeoffs as "MITO"'s. Sometimes I heard the MITO's referred to as "Elephant Walks". In either case, we had a perfect view of the whole process. Very impressive.
@godblessamerica7048
@godblessamerica7048 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for your service, sir!🇺🇸🫡🪖
@rolandemartin854
@rolandemartin854 9 ай бұрын
I had some of the same experiences, only with the older E- models out of Walker AFB Roswell NM. Back then, they didn't have the shotgun start and used the J-57 engine. One of the biggest things I see different about the takeoffs is that the E-models would most times take of with a nose down attitude. Sometimes the rear landing gear would lift off the runway first. Actually had the privilege of flying on them a few times as an A/1c assistant crew chief. Proved to be a real experience.
@garvinhooper
@garvinhooper 9 ай бұрын
my father worked building the base from the start and I used to go with him on Saturdays as a kid, they were building the huge cantilever hanger at that time I believe 1950 or 1951, the B-36s were stationed there then and they would make our school shake when going over so low, later in 1958-59 I worked on the Dow AFB in Bangor Maine lengthening the runway for the B-52s that were coming there
@MM_in_Havasu
@MM_in_Havasu 9 ай бұрын
SAC trained killer here as well! 28th FMS Ellsworth AFB from late '76 through mid '80, jet engine troop on G & H models, & KC/EC-135 tanker/command post aircraft, all of which used J57 or TF33 engines. We had a double(heavy)wing, so double the maintenance for us!
@russvoight1167
@russvoight1167 9 ай бұрын
@@MM_in_Havasu I was in the 28th FMS welding shop from August 1976 to December 1979, probably ran into each other. Who was your shop chief and branch chief?
@kenbettygregor3900
@kenbettygregor3900 9 ай бұрын
WE LOVE IT I WAS AT TRAVIS AFB FOR 4 YEARS 62 TO 66 GOOD STAFF AND GOOD PEOPLE WE THANK YOU
@shmulyitzkowitz6479
@shmulyitzkowitz6479 10 ай бұрын
Americas BIG STICK
@Loulovesspeed
@Loulovesspeed 9 ай бұрын
Smoky takeoffs are quite normal for this aircraft and nothing to be scared of at all!
@andypaul1752
@andypaul1752 8 ай бұрын
Great mechanic’s expletive at 14.23!!
@haroldmclean3755
@haroldmclean3755 10 ай бұрын
I love the sound of Jet Noise in the Morning 😉👍
@gabbybaptist2
@gabbybaptist2 10 ай бұрын
ONly an airboy would say that....
@godblessamerica7048
@godblessamerica7048 10 ай бұрын
I was in civil engineering and I loved hearing the Jets, mostly the A-10 at Davis-Monthan AFB. Saw both the Space Shuttles Challenger and Columbia twice when they were being carried on top of the 747.
@haroldmclean3755
@haroldmclean3755 10 ай бұрын
@@godblessamerica7048 Next level Cool 👍😎
@mitoys3628
@mitoys3628 10 ай бұрын
There was a mention some where that it took many years to train a B-52 pilot . My experience in pilot training was flying AT-6 and B-25's . Upon graduation I went straight to B-47's . Two years later I was flying B-52's after two months transition at Castle AFB and two weeks weapons course . Air refueling was new and required precision flying. I believe the green area was about a four foot square. could be wrong as my 90 year old memory slips some times. Best of luck to those of my brothers still flying them. Treat her well and she will take care of you.
@Prelude610
@Prelude610 10 ай бұрын
My father crewed a B-36 and B-52 (Mather, Castle, Seymour Johnson, Westover) during the late 50s through the mid 70s. I think he was in one of the last B-36s flying, and he told me his B-36 is on display at Wright-Patterson. He managed to skip the B-47, which I understand had a bad habit of blowing up during flight, wing spar failure, I believe. Good to hear you survived the B-47.
@rolandemartin854
@rolandemartin854 9 ай бұрын
I was stationed at Walker AFB 1960-1963 All they had were E-models. Their primary mission there was training new flight crews for the "52's. it was not long after I left the service that they closed Walker down. Also had KC-135's There.
@rolandemartin854
@rolandemartin854 9 ай бұрын
I was stationed at Walker AFB Roswell NM 1960-1963. Their primary mission was training new crews for the '52's. They were only using the E model which never saw any kind of combat. Flew IP position on a couple of those missions when they were practicing air refueling. Believe we were somewhere over southern Colorado at the time. That was quite an experience.
@rolandemartin854
@rolandemartin854 9 ай бұрын
sorry about the duplication!
@homerfry9234
@homerfry9234 9 ай бұрын
Castle AFB CA! 1977-1981 ground crew on G & H models
@davidroberts5602
@davidroberts5602 10 ай бұрын
Hi there guys thanks for showing me this video of your airplanes they’re awesome David ✈️👌❤️🇬🇧👍
@bradolsen8629
@bradolsen8629 9 ай бұрын
I want to take a moment to thank you fellas for getting up in the air every day doing what you’re supposed to do what you have to do My uncle, Colonel Robert Priest is now buried in Arlington national cemetery. I have a request your time allows you. Please look him up along with other Vietnam era, Air Force, please pay your respects to him. Thank you for your service.
@richardshowers2860
@richardshowers2860 9 ай бұрын
USAF(Ret) 1961-1984 (7 of those years overseas). Worked on B-47's, KC-97's, B-52's, KC-135's, RC-135M's, RF-4's, F-4's, and C-130's. Flew a dozen combat missions out of Kadena AB Okinawa on B-52's and KC-135's. Was in the Avionics career field working on Automatic Pilot Systems, Compass Systems, and Stellar Inertial Doppler Systems. Served in SAC, TAC, and USAFE Commands. Quite a ride ....Aim High !
@benth162
@benth162 9 ай бұрын
When I was in the Air Force in the 1960s Mito takeoffs I believe were set at 15 seconds apart, to the point that some of the vortices created by the wings of one aircraft would affect the stability of each successive aircraft. Maybe that is why what is shown in this video, are the bombers taking off with a longer interval between each one taking off.
@massimo7046
@massimo7046 10 ай бұрын
It is very interesting to observe the organizational machine of the United States armed forces! Beatiful video!
@davey5586
@davey5586 9 ай бұрын
Nothing scary at all about this!! SUPER COOL!!!
@richardfehr1838
@richardfehr1838 10 ай бұрын
I grew up about a hundred miles from Minot AFB. During one summer we had B-52s going over our farm every 18 minutes for days on end. They were so low that you could make out the outlines of doors on the fuselage. This was in the early '70s. We often joked about a plane if it passed by a half-mile or so East or West from their regular flight path, which was pretty much directly over the farm. They are magnificent birds, hope they live forever!
@hughsmith7281
@hughsmith7281 10 ай бұрын
Thank you.
@pagefoshee6067
@pagefoshee6067 9 ай бұрын
These aircraft and the servicemen and women who service them and fly them impress the heck out of me! These huge machines represent the 1950s SAC to me - and the Vietnam War. I would HATE to see these beasts flying over the horizon if I was a member of an army opposing the U.S. or NATO! RESPECT to all who fly and maintain these marvelous machines!!!
@michaelk_aus_L
@michaelk_aus_L 9 ай бұрын
Hi there! Great video! I have a question: The Poseidon seems to have a stairway mounted directly to the plane. How is this thing retracted when not in use? It seems so large and I could not see any hinges to fold it. Greetings from germany.
@craigmclane5610
@craigmclane5610 9 ай бұрын
A small error: The B-52 engine smoke doesn't result from water injection. It's simply due to the relatively inefficient burning of fuel by these early-design engines. B-52s built from '52 to '59 (the vast majority of them) had an even LESS efficient, less powerful engine design than those seen in the video. Those were so weak that they required water injection to produce enough thrust to get a heavily-loaded plane up to flying speed in a mile and a half. Those original engines left behind far denser black clouds that those seen in this video. The last B-52s built from '59 to '62, (which is the only batch still in service), had an entirely different engine, with more thrust and NO water injection. Even so, being from the early 60s, they can't compare to newer engines in terms of their thrust or their efficiency of fuel burn...so they still smoke much more than we're used to seeing these days. These last-surviving B-52s will shortly be re-engined with eight modern, higher-thrust engines, which will allow them to operate from shorter runways and cover greater distances before refueling is necessary. The smoke will be gone.
@l.k.3165
@l.k.3165 10 ай бұрын
U.S.A ❤❤❤❤❤ from Republika Kosoves
@mike7002
@mike7002 8 ай бұрын
What a mad old donkey! I love watching them when they visit Oxford - I live beside one of the hills above Oxford and saw one do a smoking turn overhead! Magnificent!
@teenagerinsac
@teenagerinsac 9 ай бұрын
You should have been here in 1964 as I watched B-52G depart under full water on a fall day on NH. Smoke smoke smoke that bomber jet! :)
@earlsorrels4507
@earlsorrels4507 9 ай бұрын
Outstanding. Bravo Zulu.
@KlipsenTube
@KlipsenTube 9 ай бұрын
2:14 All models of the B-52 had tail guns. Originally four .50 cal. machine guns, but on the H-model these were replaced by the six-barreled M61 Vulcan, but that one has since been removed, so now it has none.
@floriandard7874
@floriandard7874 9 ай бұрын
what a production of pure air !! Hope to live one day in a world when we won't need these anymore...
@34boo
@34boo 8 ай бұрын
Saw many take-off and landings of B52 at Loring AFB ,ME long gone now , There was a B-47 on display when I was at Plattsburgh AFB,NY,also long gone now.
@davidherrera2465
@davidherrera2465 9 ай бұрын
Yeah Yes Yes Vientos Power Extraordinary United States Of América 👍👉🗽 The Extraordinary Fuerza Aérea Militar de el Mundo 🌍👉👍
@jrcrawford4
@jrcrawford4 7 ай бұрын
2:08 - Dude, you're pullin' guard. - Got all my mags, bra!
@Workerbee-zy5nx
@Workerbee-zy5nx 9 ай бұрын
These birds will probably last a 100 years or so. Built military tuff...very impressive. 🇺🇸👍
@MM_in_Havasu
@MM_in_Havasu 9 ай бұрын
I worked on B-52G & H models at Ellsworth AFB during mid-late '70's as a jet engine troop. "H" models were nicer because water injection is not used with the TF33 engine, and they were a touch quieter. Earlier models("G" and earlier) with J57 engines that used water injection left a heavy smoke trail upon takeoff and climbout. Amazing the H model Buffs are still flying! Boeing definitely got this design right!
@craigmclane5610
@craigmclane5610 9 ай бұрын
They certainly did get it right, although not without quirks, since it was a "first attempt" in many ways. The J57 was the first really large, essentially-10,000 lb thrust-class engine ever built, custom-designed by P&W for the B-52 (and selected as the USAF's "single standard engine" that was to power ALL jets - bombers, fighters, tankers, and transport...a not-so-good idea, as it turned out) had its own issues. That included a need for water injection, and a tendency for the water to drown the engine if an unwatched throttle crept back (or was pulled back). The plane's swept wings also resulted in a perverse tendency for the nose to pitch UP sharply at the entry to every turn, instead of DOWN as most airplanes do - forces which were impractical to "trim away", requiring pilots to simply acquire the muscle memory to physically force and hold the yoke away when rolling. (That's a quirk that became much more noticeable in later models that did without ailerons.) The likelihood of dragging a wingtip (due to the long, drooping wings) make the wing-low technique for countering crosswinds when landing impossible, so pilots must learn to land IN a crab, with the landing gear rotated to point down the runway - sometimes requiring landing with the runway centerline visible through the side windscreen rather than right over the nose. The massive landing gear and huge double Fowler flaps create massive pitching moments when extended or retracted (the flaps take 60 seconds to do either, and they have no intermediate positions like "approach"), and can require riding the trim button for a bit during climbout. The BUFF also wants to "dutch roll" a bit at high altitude (ceiling: FL500) - noticeably, but not alarmingly. Because of the differential lift between the wings and the tailplane, and the distance between the two, B-52s also suffered the weird tendency to pitch down when entering ground effect, instead of "floating" a bit as most planes do. Of course, pilots are already clicking the trim back during this phase, just prior to abandoning the trim button to manually haul the forward trucks the last couple inches above the aft trucks at touchdown. The practical result of that downward pitch is a momentary mushiness of the yoke at 70' above the ground, right when you want a bit more precision. One last and very impressive oddity is that due to the ground-effect quirk and the positive angle of attack of the wings on the fuselage, during touch-and-go landing practice (done at light gross weights), when the plane first pops off the runway, it wants to pitch up and climb into a stall. The pilot must shove the nose down to a negative deck angle (that is, pointing DOWN at the runway) to arrest that tendency and start a manageable climbout...VERY alarming to novices riding in the jump seat! It's also hella uncomfortable on long missions in the cockpit, with an upper deck just over three feet tall. Despite these oddities, it is a practical aircraft and an effective bomber, whether at 35,000' or at 100' altitude. Also, Boeing designed it to take three times the official g-limit when it was new, and USAF has periodically reinforced the airframes of various models to return them to near that state, even as they go on accumulating wear and tear.
@EdmondLull-rp4iv
@EdmondLull-rp4iv 9 ай бұрын
There’s one at the Air-force Museum near Wright-Patterson airport in Dayton, Ohio , and it’s so huge and awesome!
@petuniasevan
@petuniasevan 9 ай бұрын
Remembering watching my bomber take off one day in 1986... there was a general on board who'd flown one in Vietnam and he wanted to do the takeoff that day. Of course they let him. He _barely_ cleared the end of the runway and did clip some tree branches with the gear before he got any altitude. Lucky he didn't damage the hydraulics or blow a tire! I had enough to do without some hotdog dinging up my workplace.
@OnTheBall
@OnTheBall 2 ай бұрын
The last pilot to fly the B52 hasn't been born yet.
@gideon33
@gideon33 10 ай бұрын
Every time I watch a loaded B52 takeoff gives me the chills, it is a sobering experience & reminder of their firepower!
@rolandemartin854
@rolandemartin854 9 ай бұрын
Always liked to hear the roar of them rolling down the runway. On a cold morning that sound would just crackle!
@aurorealis3249
@aurorealis3249 9 ай бұрын
True American Heroes! From the ground crews to weapons officer and pilots - all sacrificing to keep our country safe and free. My close and dear friend was a warfare officer on the B-52, flying many difficult missions worldwide (very long hours). These dedicated airman are the best of the best in our US Air Force. Most Americans do not understand the tremendous training that is required by our military to maintain an unsurpassed level of global security with excellence. From another grateful veteran - Thank you all for your service.
@turnbuckle
@turnbuckle 9 ай бұрын
Heroes? I think not. The Pentagon has not fought a defensive war since WW2. They aren't keeping America safe, they are forcing others to build nukes and point them at our cities.
@Dannysoutherner
@Dannysoutherner 9 ай бұрын
446 that I did not know - I always wondered about the smoke and just figured it was always there. Thanks for adding that info.
@anthonylawrence2094
@anthonylawrence2094 10 ай бұрын
I loved watching them take off and land at Barksdale
@fuzzybutkus8970
@fuzzybutkus8970 9 ай бұрын
I lived about 50 mi. south of Oscoda Mi. Growing up and after taking off they flew over my house pretty low. When they closed the base it was like losing a major attraction at a carnival. I couldn’t believe I really missed them.
@gonzob9609
@gonzob9609 9 ай бұрын
Lived in Oscoda 65-70. East Tawas? Remember they had a drive in back then. Skiing at Mt Moriah.
@noworries12
@noworries12 9 ай бұрын
Cold War birds rule....loud like thunder and black smoke everywhere...very impressive!
@agp9844
@agp9844 9 ай бұрын
I am from Michigan , nuf said !
@michaelhoggard591
@michaelhoggard591 10 ай бұрын
I was just a teen, but in "69" I lived just off base of Kadena when a B-52 didn't make the take off and blew up at the end of the runway! Wow that was loud. That was during Nam!
@robertonavarro7713
@robertonavarro7713 10 ай бұрын
Just found out that a total of 31 B-52s crashed or were shot down during the Vietnam war.
@straightchad8059
@straightchad8059 9 ай бұрын
Great video, really impressed . Keep it coming .
@terrybrown1032
@terrybrown1032 8 ай бұрын
Bomber 14, U-tapao. Crew Chief. 56-691. Love me some B52 D!!!
@vip01
@vip01 9 ай бұрын
I worked on B-47's and KC-97's at Homestead afb 1958-1960, The KC -97 squadron and I, moved to Otis AFB at Cape Cod in 1960. I never saw a B-52 at that time, but someone told me they seen one at some Bomb competition. I got out of the USAF in 1962 and around 1966 I worked on KC-97-L models with the Ohio ANG, till 1958 when I left to work for GE-AE. I did see a KC-135 that stopped by Homestead afb with a radar problem in 1959 I think.. Fun times.....
@jonathanr2830
@jonathanr2830 9 ай бұрын
Those magnificent beasts used to fly over my childhood neighborhood in Tarrant County northeast of Carswell Air Force Base in the 1960's. I always remember the Kubrick film, "Dr. Strangelove" and the unforgettable character, General Buck Turgidson played brilliantly (if not regretfully) by George C. Scott: TURGIDSON: "Well, I'm sorry. Ah...If the pilot's good, see. I mean, if he's really...sharp, he can barrel that baby in so low (spreads his arms like wings), you oughtta see it sometime, it's a sight. A big plane, like a '52, vroom! There's jet exhaust, flyin' chickens in the barnyard!"
@michaelcallahan5358
@michaelcallahan5358 9 ай бұрын
One of the most perfect designs ever created, fast , safe and true to it’s mission!
@mikemines2931
@mikemines2931 9 ай бұрын
It's up there with the Vulcan certainly. Most impressive.
@barrygrant2907
@barrygrant2907 10 ай бұрын
The current H models do not use water injection. That system ended with the long-retired G models.
@Dan-ss2vo
@Dan-ss2vo 9 ай бұрын
Yeah? So?
@craigmclane5610
@craigmclane5610 9 ай бұрын
I believe his point was that the video caption - which said the thick black smoke was due to the pilots using water injection - was misinformation. The smoke is from the inefficiency of the 1960s-era engines. It's an observation that's noteworthy only to B-52 fanatics.
@jamessimms415
@jamessimms415 10 ай бұрын
Happy Eart Day. Smoke em if you got em
@poly_hexamethyl
@poly_hexamethyl 9 ай бұрын
Good old B-52's. Still going strong! Somebody must have done something right, designing those things back in the 50's, and well built too!
@BuzzSargent
@BuzzSargent 10 ай бұрын
A lot of information and fun stuff to see in this video. Happy Trails from FL (New Viewer)
@VaderisOne
@VaderisOne 9 ай бұрын
My grandfather flew B-29 in WW2, only one of my male relatives that fought that stayed in after the war. He became a hurricane hunter and that cost his his life a little less than two months before my mom was born. Still proud to call him my grandfather, I did not have the guts to serve and my family was very against it anyway.
@tomk1tl39
@tomk1tl39 9 ай бұрын
I was stationed at Westover AFB MA in the '60s......loved to watch these babies land.....awesome sight !.........and definitely rattled the windows of the barracks when they had an alert and they took off ...........at 2am.....we lived in the Stony Brooke area of the base !
@meandmysellefrancaishorsel2585
@meandmysellefrancaishorsel2585 10 ай бұрын
cliff longlands ,First time I found you ,Awesome thanks guys ,stay safe and fly ,cliff longlands Normandie . I have now Subscribed XX
@richardcline1337
@richardcline1337 9 ай бұрын
I've only been onboard one CH-53E and let me tell you, that thing stunk! The smell of fuel was overwhelming. It was the tow aircraft for anti-mine sleds. But, when that bird lifted off, it could clean the roofs of every building near it. If people don't understand the dangers of FOD, it was FOD that came from another aircraft that caused the fire and ultimate crash of the Concorde.
@chrisackerley1842
@chrisackerley1842 9 ай бұрын
Foreign Object Debris [FOD] is what brought the Concorde down.
@okcstormchaser
@okcstormchaser 10 ай бұрын
Hopefully, those new Rolls Royce engines won't need water injection, which makes it look bad with that black smoke coming out.. but those engines have been troopers! I still love the B1b and especially the B2 Spirit, I'm anxious to see what the end result of the B21 Raiders will look like, and if they still plan to use the current F35 engines or maybe the new GE ones they're trying to push even though they won't work on the b variant. Either way with tr3 and block 4 coming up they'll have to do something for the updates and with the B21 being updated eventually, wonder if two F135 engines will be enough for cooling since it'll share most of the existing equipment of the F35 to save cost since the B2 were so expensive.. Either way, I'm glad the B52s are getting new engines, finally! That'll extend it to 2050, which is nuts.
@MrSafetyToo1
@MrSafetyToo1 10 ай бұрын
The B-52H model shown in the video does not use water injection. It is turbofan powered. The mention of it here is an error on the part of the producers. I know; I was both G and H model pilot 50 years ago.
@markaustin643
@markaustin643 9 ай бұрын
4:45 - B-52H models do not use and have never used water injection for their TF33 turbofan engines. The G-models with their J57 turbojets were the last ones to use water injection. (I have over 3000 flight hours in B-52s and have flown both G models and H models.)
@pravemet4427
@pravemet4427 10 ай бұрын
how many B-24s would it take to equal one B-52 .... as for FODs, that's what caused the crash of the Concorde back in 2000. kudos and thanks to all the men who fly these planes and to the men and women who keep them capable of leaving the ground
@rolandemartin854
@rolandemartin854 9 ай бұрын
You want to talk FOD, I have a little story that I experienced back in the early 60's. Someone got the bright idea for clearing the runway of Ice by using a couple of 52's and letting them start a taxi roll down the runway one behind the other and let the heat from the exhaust melt the Ice. Only problem was second plane got to close behind the first and engines picked up Ice that the previous plane had broken loose . Needless to say there were a couple of engines that got shelled out . Don't know who paid for that one!
@pravemet4427
@pravemet4427 9 ай бұрын
the pilot from the second plane was probably from California and either didn't have a lick of sense or had never experienced the damage ice can do. @@rolandemartin854
@mikebrant192
@mikebrant192 9 ай бұрын
Since I was a boy many decades ago, SAC base housing always had carports to protect the owner's paint from descending jet fuel. Tail gunners were so isolated that they often had psychological damage. The B-36 Peacemaker is considerably larger and performed the same duration flights - without in-flight refueling.
@carlinshowalter1806
@carlinshowalter1806 9 ай бұрын
Shame they didn't save more of the B-36s for display as they are awesome big!
@Cauthon75
@Cauthon75 9 ай бұрын
Further evidence how dumb our government can be. Sure would be great if we could listen to one fly over, we could always recognize them by the sound. @@carlinshowalter1806
@grondhero
@grondhero 9 ай бұрын
Where was the "scary smoky takeoff?"
@apegues
@apegues 10 ай бұрын
B-52’s don’t use the JT3D, its a TF33, the are some major differences one of which is water injection, I could go on but think of the TF33 as a Suped-up heavy duty JT3D adapted for Military use.
@fdhicks69
@fdhicks69 10 ай бұрын
You beat me to that…
@panzermann
@panzermann 8 ай бұрын
70 years old....OMG !!!
@chuckkfinnley
@chuckkfinnley 9 ай бұрын
nice to see Minot, Barksdale and Lakenheath represented
@blankeny
@blankeny 9 ай бұрын
About as scarry as watching an airbus takeoff...
@sudirnovandyke3840
@sudirnovandyke3840 10 ай бұрын
Monster
@carlinshowalter1806
@carlinshowalter1806 9 ай бұрын
Growing up in Kansas we used to sneak into Schilling at the far end of the runway at night and lay down in the tall grass and get blasted by the B-52s as they did touch and go. And I wonder why my hearing is toast at 62 years old!
@OnlyEdandTheAlmost
@OnlyEdandTheAlmost 8 ай бұрын
Mesmerizing. Must have blinked and missed the "Scary Takeoffs."
@charleshunziker7416
@charleshunziker7416 9 ай бұрын
It is now Oneida county airport. And I heard the runways are so long it was an alternative site for the shuttle
@vadeltachi
@vadeltachi 9 ай бұрын
Interesting video, but isn't it time to replace these old aircraft? Past time?
@philgiglio7922
@philgiglio7922 10 ай бұрын
The only cart start has been in use since the second great debate. Many Navy aircraft utilized them . They played a major role in THE FLIGHT OF THE PHOENIX.
@earlsmall9808
@earlsmall9808 10 ай бұрын
God bless you brother.
@TS-ef2gv
@TS-ef2gv 9 ай бұрын
As a USAF vet on BUFFs I enjoy seeing the video footage, but there is a ton of incorrect info given in the narrative along the bottom of the screen
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