US universities losing hundreds of billions as top Chinese scientists and researchers go home

Research and Development (R&D) is a major profit center for the top universities in the United States. Besides the nearly $100 billion they earn in grants from the US government and private sources, university-based researchers create patents and inventions that generate many more billions annually.
China is the largest foreign source of scientists and researchers, and they are concentrated in the hard sciences and in engineering, where over 95% of R&D spending takes place. But since 2018, Chinese scientists are increasingly deciding to return to China to set up new research departments. Of those who are still in the US, over 60% admit they are strongly considering moving, and over half now refuse to work on projects that involve funding by US government sources.
To American universities, the loss of these scientists, along with future contributions to scientific research and commercial applications and market value, are incalculable. But losses probably already exceed a trillion dollars, given the departures of so many top scientists in Artificial Intelligence, Big Data, medicine, biochemistry, materials science, nanotechnology, and quantum computing.
Resources and links:
More Chinese Students Are Staying in China to Study
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Surge in Chinese Scientists Leaving US for Home Institutions
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Caught in the crossfire: Fears of Chinese-American scientists
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Scientists of Chinese descent leaving the US at an accelerating pace
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Reverse Brain Drain? Exploring Trends among Chinese Scientists in the U.S.
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Resources on the Patent Revenue Budget Model
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R&D Expenditures at U.S. Universities Increased by $8 Billion in FY 2022
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South China Morning Post, Nanotech pioneer Wang Zhonglin leaves US to work in China ‘full time’
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SCMP, The Chinese scientists leaving top US universities to take up high-profile roles in China, boosting Beijing in its race for global talent
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[@carbonduke01]

This guy alone,do much more than mainstream media do,combined. So glad i found his channel.

[@WuJiZhang-wc9mc]

It's not because the mainstream can't do it But because they're told not to

[@mirsadseferovic2324]

Indeed

[@StipanRamon]

Yep

[@davidlazarus67]

When the mainstream media are all propaganda now, even independent journalists have a really good opportunity of developing their own career.

[@DylanF.B]

No one will listen to him in the US Government They will listen to a guy like Gordon Chang Nothing to worry about China is about to crash

[@WT83]

Only getting 35% of royalties for something you invented... people think Apple and Google taking 30% is crazy but these schools are getting 65%. That's approaching music industry level exploitation.

[@yndiiatecow2536]

That's not the point, being accused of a spy and losing all your money and being in prison. That's your reward from the U.S. Government and CIA

[@chongdi6140]

American/Western capitalistic practices are exploitative and vampiric by nature, go figure lol.

[@Stefano-o5f]

​​@@yndiiatecow2536well, believing western propaganda has its price... you thought Chinese government is lying all the time and swallowed western lies... like a pelican.

[@remix-yy1hs]

Ofcourse it was made jewish lawyers

[@yndiiatecow2536]

Accused of being a spy and being homeless in your retirement and being in prison for 20 years. That's your reward from the American Government.

[@surfspark]

Much better than allowing them to own that technology.

[@dennisreed6345]

@@surfspark and that's why they're going back to China

[@kenw.4539]

American government is run mostly by lawyers, that's the reason.

[@pausereflect5911]

​@@surfsparkOK then!

[@JimmyDoyel-by2cp]

well he got a point, of course when they ask for Chinese help heheh

[@GeoffHalsey]

Probably doesn't help when the US constantly talks about war with China.

[@davidlazarus67]

Which creates a hostile local environment for them. Their neighbours become hostile. Why stay? All perfectly logical to leave.

[@kenw.4539]

All looked upon as spies, proof is irrelevant, physical appearance is everything.

[@gregwang8628]

@@kenw.4539Finally the true colors revealed.

[@johnsmith1953x]

If there was ever a hot war with China, you can GUARANTEE the USA will IMPRISON ALL CHINESE even if you are BORN IN THE USA!! The USA did this to Japanese-American citizens (again, BORN IN THE USA) into concentration camps from 1941-1947. A very famous Japanese-American BORN IN THE USA who was imprisoned is George Takei who played Sulu in "Star Trek" The USA WILL imprison ALL CHINESE no matter who u are. Trust me.

[@haniahannslew4108]

Chinese people often say “if one ignores history, he/she is going to repeat the same kind or similar history”. And yes we are seeing Chinese people who dream and love armuryken baloney (means phoney, not real) dream are getting the Chinese Exclusion Act history repeating on themselves.

[@mystictraveler8642]

Ive been saying this for years. American tech is due to talented chinese scientists and engineers. They have revolutionized the tech industry.

[@joechan3388]

Americans have a great plan to filter out Chinese. They are replacing the Chinese supply chain (all aspects of life) with India. America is going to replace Chinese scientists and engineers with Indians. America has already staffed its CEOs and top government officials with Indians.

[@gregwang8628]

No more for the US😂

[@nanyanguo1]

the unsung heroes of uS tech advancement . If their skin was white, they would be household name , media celebrities.

[@haniahannslew4108]

Most tech ideas were created by talented Chinese scientists and engineers in America. But the u s a keeps accusing the country that gives the u s a thousands of world class scientists and prodigies as stealing IP. That is pure racism.

[@johnsmith1953x]

@@nanyanguo1 Like Elon "The Con" Musk or Steve "Master Theif" Jobs ??

[@emersonandriao4342]

Thank you, Kevin, for your insights!

[@rontsang4308]

Well, I guess it is indeed time for China and Asia to reap the benefits of their people :)

[@philippepeltier142]

As Joe Biden says, they are just "small countries". That's what he said about India... 😂

[@Ace1000ks19751982]

There is no point in contributing to a country that despises you.

[@haniahannslew4108]

And There is no point in contributing to a country that discriminates and treats the contributors like 2nd class citizens and criminals. Chinese Exclusive Act in 19th century is the best example where thousands of Chinese labourers risked their lives to build the US continental railway that spurred the economy of u s a to this day.

[@haniahannslew4108]

It’s just that Chinese people are just too naive to ignore the history of Chinese Exclusive Act and too naive to believe in the armouriken dream prop agenda.

[@petervan7372]

@@haniahannslew4108 2nd class? it's 6th class at the bottom of the society

[@haniahannslew4108]

Chinese people often say “if one ignores history, he/she is going to repeat the same kind or similar history”. And yes we are seeing Chinese people who dream and love armuryken baloney (means phoney, not real) dream are getting the Chinese Exclusion Act history repeating on themselves. Too naive.

[@haniahannslew4108]

@@petervan7372 Yes. Chinese people often say “if one ignores history, he/she is going to repeat the same kind or similar history”. And yes we are seeing Chinese people who dream and love armuryken baloney (means phoney, not real) dream are getting the Chinese Exclusion Act history repeating on themselves. Too naive.

[@iWantPeace838]

A wise man won't stand beside a collapsing wall. Why wouldn't one flee from this barbaric Uncle Sam Empire?

[@AK-tx1vg]

Uncle Scam can always manage to win over many abroad to live the "American Dream" of delusions.

[@WuJiZhang-wc9mc]

Along with that University, the town also losing billions of income from food industry, home rental industry, car sales & tourism.

[@Shyhalu]

All the more reason to have never let foreigners take over in the first place. Should have pushed to keep things to citizens.

[@rebonditude5832]

Not to mention crime industry for Chinese are easy target 🤧

[@chongdi6140]

The belligerent US politicians have been taking a lot of unambiguous economic benefits for granted

[@brm1279]

US universities are businesses, not places of learning.

[@qingshanyipian1936]

If I’m not mistaken, the nano scientist has also received a Nobel award and is considered to be the father of modern nanotechnology.

[@andrewlim7751]

He is no. 1 in the nano engine field, second to none.

[@kenw.4539]

We barely know it in the US because he isn't white and English is not his first language so the US media pretends he doesn't exist.

[@Zakaius]

He's in 🇨🇳 now😅

[@nanyanguo1]

@@Zakaius as he ought to be . Should serve motherland n not some ungrateful country which would use his technology aga his motherland.

[@AK-tx1vg]

You'd be surprised how many 漢奸 there are , living in the west to work against China.

[@mahtabsoin7239]

Very interesting content. Thank you for sharing! As a recent immigrant to Canada and a student in the University of Toronto myself, I can't help but notice that the West isn't doing enough to nurture and reward its top talent - especially immigrants from non-western countries. There's definitely a sense of stagnation and not feeling valued enough.

[@shattaclevewright4379]

the slave master mentality have to be transcended and replaced with the principles of Maat from the African Spirituality that they attempted to destroy. Its a spiritual issue and the people must once again be raised up. kzbin.info/www/bejne/h4GbeoabZahsapY Ra Un Nefer Amen -The science of man Sankofa Kweli

[@DanBurgaud]

10:18 Wang Zhonglin could be the $Trillion$ Man of China....

[@SsbagalaUmar-cv2pz]

Informative...❤

[@thunderdragon888]

Glad to hear this good news.. Thanks for MAKING CHINA GREAT AGAIN

[@sfukuda512]

A century ago, the USA was considered a land of opportunity. You could have a crazy idea, set up shop, and sell gizmos. Let the market decide whether your stuff is good or not. Now, China has taken that crown. Too much interference from federal busybodies ruined the dream. In China, you will never be the next Tencent or AliBaba, but that's not the point. There are entire frontiers opening up, and China will pounce on these opportunities.

[@johnsmith1953x]

That's true, but not the point. The point is the USA will TAKE all your work,money, career, fame and family because you are just chinese now. Its real bad. The FBI JAILED MANY Chinese scientists in the USA for NO REASON. After these Chinese scientists spent $100,000-$300,000 to DEFEND themselves, the FBI dropped ALL the cases. Now these CHINESE scientist have NO MONEY and NO JOB!!

[@knfk]

Who in the right mind would want to work in the US universities whether Chinese or otherwise? You can be made a target anytime!

[@Barabus-yx2cn]

Unless you're a loyal member of the Oligarchy.

[@nanyanguo1]

the chinese being the target is not new . Happened decades ago . Eg Wong So the lst chief engineer of Boeing who designed n built boeing lst airplane a century ago. Qian Xuesen who developed Nasa jpl rocket more than 60 yrs ago. Both returned to motherland in the end.

[@AK-tx1vg]

One word: To live the American Dream of delusions making earning shekels.

[@raymondkwan5646]

US thought that Indian scientists / researchers could replace Chinese ones.😅

[@amandagrant4331]

The Indian employees in Boeing and Intel have increased rapidly in the last five years.

[@potter8059]

@@amandagrant4331 the two went down the toilet at the same time

[@WuJiZhang-wc9mc]

@@amandagrant4331 At microsoft too

[@raymondkwan5646]

@@potter8059 My thought exactly. Boeing has been going down the toilet in the last five years.

[@shivam_singh_kill_pro]

@@potter8059 habit to blame other race and not reflective of your self is big reason chines left and i hope indian realise this too soon enough

[@Collapseofusa]

UAS really fucked itself real deep this time

[@johnsmith1953x]

The USA does not care. Trust me. They are very short sighted.

[@AB_123_AB]

Grad students do most of the grunt work in research. There is going to be a severe lack of grad student in science and engineering too.

[@AnnieT369]

So glad they are returning home. It was distressing reading about them being hounded, harassed and rubbed off.

[@dons6556]

In the near future, when India climbs a little higher on the GDP ladder, we will add them to the bogie man list. We always need fresh blood, fresh enemies, to justify increasing DOD $ to feed our military industrial complex which in term will donate to re-elections, an American win-win formula for our politicians. Part 1 was Japan in the 90’s with the Plaza Accord, Part 2 is now with PRC, and Part 3 is coming up within a decade with India…

[@JimmyDoyel-by2cp]

I have a feeling the US won't last that long…

[@Barabus-yx2cn]

Especially if war mongering democRATS have a say so.

[@Lyra0966]

Absolutely bang on!

[@sword7872]

And I don't think india will be getting to that position for at least another 5 decades if at all. Research requires high levels of discipline and intelligence does it not?

[@mechannel7046]

5:45 China is the largest supplier of US scientists. Now they are leaving for China

[@americanknow8232]

You know that problem. American politicinas are too stupid to understand this.

[@LaBambaCL]

6:45 "push factors" can mean ostracization, end of career, prosecution, persecution, even end of life, per news articles.

[@nanyanguo1]

yes most recent death was a female neuroscientist They seized her research lab which she worked so hard to set up. She was said to have successfully researched on the cure for a neurological disease

[@ppp123asdf]

Marcos Rubio must be very proud!

[@catinbootsnow4267]

He may be a very deep spy working hard to ruin the US for Cuba.

[@bananapeeler8797]

Not only the national policies, Western politicians spare no effort to incite hatred towards Chinese. Can't blame them for panicking.

[@randygraham926]

Propaganda is a key component of U.S. economics, war, social control. They are prepping the U.S. population to hate the next "enemy".

[@FallenLeavesBackToRoots]

A relative of mine is doing his PhD in computer algorithms at one of the top universities (for his safety, I will not name the school ). He said he isn't going to China for a visit before he has received his degree because many Chinese students were refused to reenter the US after they visited their families in China.

[@randygraham926]

I read something about that. I don't think it's happened a lot ... YET ... but the fact that it's causing fear already is notable.

[@thiago5372]

US terrorism

[@FallenLeavesBackToRoots]

@randygraham926 multiple top scientists, including a department chairman at MIT, were charged for spying for China and then released later without conviction. Their careers and finances were ruined. At least 2 of them have committed suicide. Another relative of mine graduated with a PhD in satellite communications. All students from his advisor were recruited by NASA, but he ended up working for Apple, doing technical support. Last year, he moved his whole family back to China. His wife is a data scientist.

[@Stefano-o5f]

​@@FallenLeavesBackToRootsthe USA does act like soviet union..

[@johnsmith1953x]

@@Stefano-o5f No. The USSR was smarter in the 1940s-1970s. The USSR did not want to scare off future scientsts. The USA does not care thanks to the politicians.

[@benedictchin5261]

Wants the milk but not the cow......

[@rebonditude5832]

Want the meat also 🤔

[@botakkawasiki8775]

Yeah, make sure you don't milk a male cow.

[@sammygit9486]

And ends up with cow sheet instead

[@SSL_SSL]

Necessity is the mother of invention. The message is clear: Chinese scientists should go where they are celebrated instead of not tolerated. To the compatriots who love their motherland: Welcome home !!! To those of Chinese descent: Welcome to the land of your ancestors !!!

[@bertanelson8062]

We reap what we sow. Being unwelcoming has its results. Someday the lesson will be learned.

[@stefenleung]

I'm glad those people get proper respect and freedom in their home county.

[@磐石-w6e]

No worries. you can have as many as india students you want

[@BRICSSCO]

I would be leaving too cause if you are not being treated right and get the short end of stick among other races.

[@Vijay-xk3ew]

@BRICSSCO ..your name resembles your attitude 😅

[@TeeSpells]

But the Chinese immigrants took away from other races by allowing legacy privileged students use affirmative as a weapon but in reality the Foundational Black Americans who fought for all immigrants to come in this country was actually accurately at the bottom due to historical HBCU'S.

[@johnsmith1953x]

Or risk being imprisoned for LIFE for NO REASON. Yes. this has happened (or tried to) to CHINESE. The FBI JAILED MANY Chinese scientists in the USA for NO REASON. These Chinese scientists spent $100,000-$500,000 to DEFEND themselves, the FBI dropped ALL the cases. Now these CHINESE scientist have NO MONEY and NO JOB after spending a lifetime earning both. Some have committed suicide and their families are OUT ON THE STREET HOMELESS.

[@hungo7720]

As Chinese students’ interest in US institutions dampens, this ginormous source of income and scientists suddenly vanished overnight.

[@mohammedkhan6120]

Highly analytical and thought-provoking report, as always.

[@emersonandriao4342]

By the way..., paraphrasing a tweet by a Polish politician, Radek Sikorski: “Thank you, USA.”

[@Shyhalu]

Before or after their own citizens are wondering why they can't find jobs?

[@hansmeyer403]

No mention ot Gender Studies ... USA undisputed leader in the field ! ☝️

[@TeohLieongChuan]

us the promised land has become the cursed land!!!

[@Dawson2011H]

The way I see it: A restaurant boss makes the working environment hostile for the chefs, other restaurants are recruiting these chefs…

[@susanpetropoulos1039]

And then the boss doubles down.

[@craigslistseller9354]

Delete A

[@Samoasoa]

Chinese exclusion laws are a threat to all Chinese, Singaporean Chinese or American Chinese, not just Mainland Chinese.

[@Jellybean-gz4cj]

True. As the senators can’t tell the difference, or won’t make that distinction

[@arthurvandeman]

devastating, seismic shifts occurring right now, law of unintended consequence.....

[@StipanRamon]

Not a big loss If you are a US Politician with a 4-year term, short sighted AS they all are...

[@randygraham926]

Yes, but once they get in ... very hard to get rid of them ... hence the gerontocracy. 🤣 U.S. Congress works for the MIC, AIPAC and Wall Street. Average Americans are pretty much on their own. That's why they suffer from unaffordable medicine, education, and rent, etc.

[@pitzabryosh2825]

Like 1930s Germany.

[@cheekeongchan6605]

It is a new Chinese people exclusion act.

[@rebonditude5832]

Not a good example, from 1933 when people where dying from starvation in the street to 1936 when the became the world superpower

[@cheekeongchan6605]

@@pitzabryosh2825 My reply supporting you has deleted by UT.

[@YouReadMyName]

@@rebonditude5832 It's actually an accurate example, Albert Einstein is the perfect example of that.

[@rebonditude5832]

@@YouReadMyName Einstein was not Chinese 🤔🤗

[@hansmeyer403]

China emulates that Germany of the 19th, early 20th century, when entire universities were established around top scientists (i.e. Liebig), German was the scientific lingua franca... Time to learn Chinese now...

[@daveh5947]

Hillary might have to go without a Pay rise this Year and put Bill on a Diet... 😊

[@tim_any]

Wow! Finally I think I won the jackpot, first to watch your new video 🎉. Love your videos many thanks. Moving to China soon.

[@deanc685]

Kevin, a better way of looking at this is by looking at the traditional breakdown between basic and applied research. Basically, organizations like the US govt leave basic research to the Universities, then take that and operationalize it so to speak. This is where the national labs or corporations come in. So the big problem is that not only is basic research being done at Chinese universities, but applied research is integrated as well. So not only does integrated supply chains refer to physical products, but also to knowledge as well.

[@ericpolak2915]

thanks for your talk

[@whollybraille7043]

What strikes me most of this is the "pull and push" factors. What has frustrated so many in the U.S. is our inability to find people of like mind and intelligence to interact with. How many of us sit at home studying, reading, writing, reduced to ruminating with our own souls because there is simply no one we can share with. From science to literature, history, religion, the challenges and blessings of daily life, we're only able to connect online. Rare is the friendship that goes deeper now.

[@rogerstarkey5390]

YOU have a problem....

[@johnsmith1953x]

@@rogerstarkey5390 Nah bruh. The USA has a problem.

[@maxdc988]

The heavy-handedness and the ruthlessness of the "national security" laws in the land of the free will scare the hell out of all those people with extraordinary talents until they have daily nightmares and perpetual fear. To them, there is no good reason to make so much sacrifices for the US.

[@stickitupyourasteric]

Can't figure out why? maybe they sense the oncoming war and don't wish to be corralled up like WW2.

[@susanpetropoulos1039]

More likely, have their bank accounts frozen and assets stolen.

[@leeway777]

Asian hate. Neo-McCarthyism.

[@RockyFjord-qe3iw]

Malaysian plane that diverted and crashed I guess, had Chinese students with special knowledge from research in US.

[@botakkawasiki8775]

Not just Chinese researchers and scientists are leaving, many talented White Americans are going too. Why? In Shenzen, it takes as little as 2 weeks from the design phase to the actual production. China is that quick.

[@fannyalbi9040]

isn't one of the talented white scientist (and his family) from america just moved to China.

[@moreless2690]

Regrettably, the fact that money comes and goes. The absence of money is not an obstacle. An obstacle is posed by a lack of an idea. If you want to feel rick, just count the thing you have that money can't buy

[@Kaisan-vc8fw]

The UK has done the same with Brexit ... The R&D ppl are all returning to Europe, along with so many lecturers.

[@dennisreed6345]

And the UK will be a Third World country

[@themiddlekingdom9121]

Now U K is becoming poor country.

[@raylee5030]

Our senators such as Rubio, Cotton, Cruz and others couldn't careless for the country.

[@Shyhalu]

How many Americans were denied those jobs? YOU couldn't care any less for the country when you let foreigners flood and take over our economy.

[@randygraham926]

They get paid by the MIC and AIPAC -- that's who they work for. Not American citizens. Hence, their belligerence and desire to get the U.S. into endless wars. Xenophobia is part of the package.

[@WuJiZhang-wc9mc]

They're a far right ex tree miss The same level with the german 1930 with small mustache.

[@kwlee8420]

You can add the warmongers from BOTH parties too. Trump (esp) and don't forget Biden.

[@markc6140]

They are just a bunch of pathetic self-serving US lawmakers that will definitely make America "great" again.

[@patdeal8664]

Thank you.

[@jordandexter7927]

Another well researched piece so well and concisely articulated for our easy consumption. Thanks Kevin.

[@Campaigner82]

I immediately thought of 1930s Germany who scared away its Jews. Same story here….. Great coverage!

[@MrSagowoon]

Meanwhile, the politicians have yet to figure out what WiFi is😂😂😂

[@sunshinesun121]

The Writing was on "The Wall " in 2022 when scientific Papers Published by Reputable Institutions slowly became dominated by Chinese Universities. Already 80% of Critical Areas of Scientific Research for the FUTURE came from Chinese Universities (2024). And who are the Professors, Scientist, etc who Wrote These Papers /Research ...??? Many are those who RETURN to China after .... " US China initiative in 2021/22 " . What surprised me was that those Universities/Companies ( Google/Intel/etc ) ... KEPT QUITE about it. !!!!! Even thought they KNEW the Consequences. Or did the Media "Kept it Hush Up"???

[@cristinakasselas555]

Since I have 2 young kids I am very happy to have found this channel. We left the US for Europe, in our kids school ( british international one )there are students from all over the world, and I am so happy that all these children one day will get into a high education system that gives damn about their potential even if that is China or any other Asian country ! US is only bombing the planet ..............

[@justJ-m1t]

Let alone losing the high quality but cheap postdocs to the research work...

[@Zakaius]

Don't worry 🇺🇲 the Indians are coming 😅😅

[@ramonching7772]

Imagine what those grifters are going to do to grab those free money being offered. I can imagine a lot of unqualified "scientists" will be taking over the vacancies. I can see the decline will be hastened. 😂😂😂

[@matematica6pi]

El que pueda entender, que entienda! Mt. 13:9. Thanks!

[@gelinrefira]

I don't see this as a crisis. I see this as the world is healing.

[@SSL_SSL]

物极必反，美国自食其果， 无需详细说明 !!!

[@moeluv]

🍿👀

[@sword7872]

The US were lucky to have had them for so long. Who can blame them for leaving now? The push factor from the US is the bigger factor putting them on planes to Beijing and elsewhere in China.

[@wsurfer2147]

Those Chinese scientists should not just do research but also start teaching too to spread the knowledge.

[@gucci3541]

they do.

[@fannyalbi9040]

u know what is "research team" mean right? that's those master or PhDs students will learn and develop together

[@prilep5]

Most informative reporting on core issues without flaws. Thank you sir

[@thehungergames8918]

Thanks Bro 😀👊

[@TAL142]

You don’t even have to be from China. Chinese scientists would be wise to leave if they can find a better job outside U.S. . And foreign students pay higher tuition. So the bright side is the smart Asian Americans may get fair school admission instead of being rejected for being too Asians. But the down side they may also leave to other countries.

[@GreenIsland38]

Hi Kevin, always a pleasure to see and listen to your very informative show. The US badly needs a lot more men of your calibre. Stay safe and keep it coming.

[@fredrikbergquist5734]

I love this channel, have started saying ”Be good” instead of ”bye” when saying goodbye to people!

[@Emphasis213]

Another pressing issue here is that we value sports and entertainment as much as we value our researchers and scientists. This should never be the case. Entertainment and sports should be almost at the bottom of the totem pole. The pay of sports employees and entertainers should never be more than what researchers and scientists in stem and related fields make. 20 million +/ year for a good athlete to get a bal in a hole or pass a line isnjust absurd and shows where our real values are- in the bottom of the trash heap.

[@Intudesia8792]

When politicians are sponsored by those who just care about their own profit but not for the future of the country.

[@kamhong7441]

There is no right or wrong in this matter ........ except White or Wong !!!!!

[@fireknight4772]

You are doing the work...thumbs up...!

[@failedstateusa4878]

On its own UAS dont have any capability nor capacity to innovate invent or create

[@user-ly7nz9xi8f]

Thanks for your warning calls. 😊

[@failedstateusa4878]

Seems like UAS really got fced this time

[@amargogi]

Love it. We get dumb, but helps getting elected.

[@rebonditude5832]

"A trillion dollars just one guy" 🤭🤣

[@WilhelmWKohl]

Sounds very depressing!

[@bachabadchoda7577]

Don't worry we the H1Bs are here to the rescue. The next president could be half-Indian. Keep your heads high Americans.

[@wilsf1667]

It will be the same.

[@cabasadefogo9533]

Time to bring in researchers from the land of Jeet to start research department on the miracle that is cow dung!

[@NaveenPalani-jr9tk]

Who knows cow dung could have some miracles ,just like some ancient Hindu temples

[@itsdachief]

I can share my experience with a business school masters program (non-MBA): 3-4 years ago, around 30% of the overall class came from China, or about 40 students in total This year, only 2-3 kids from mainland China, and 3-4 from Taiwan. The number of Chinese students has been completely replaced by Indian students, who now fill up that 30% One would figure that in a couple decades that India will start to have its own crop of competitive universities. They’re clearly becoming rich enough to send their kids to private colleges overseas. Then what are we gonna do?

[@DylanF.B]

Well depends if it’s a diploma mill those Indian students will be there to work instead of studying This is Australia but it’s the same where I live in Canada And same where you live I’m sure 👇 Chinese students are exports, Indian students are imports Leith van Onselen Thursday 9 May 2024 * A recent Navitas survey of study intentions discovered that students from South Asia and Africa choose a study destination based on their capacity to gain job rights, a low-cost course, and permanent residency. South Asia and Africa care about work and migration, not education quality. In contrast, students from these two continents are least concerned about educational quality. All source nations, with the exception of students from China and Europe, place a high value on opportunities to work while studying and post-study job privileges. As illustrated in the following graphic, Australia has had the largest growth in student numbers from nations that support themselves through paid employment, whereas only one-fifth of Chinese students do the same As a result, the concept of international education ‘exports’ only truly applies to Chinese students, who typically pay their tuition and living costs in Chinese currency rather than work income earned in Australia. As explained by Associate Professor Salvatore Babones in his latest book “Australia’s Universities, Can They Reform“: “In reality, everyone (except perhaps the government and the universities) knew that many international students pay for their courses out of the proceeds of their work in-country, often working excessive hours under exploitative conditions, in violation of their visa terms”. * This situation is especially common among South Asian students, and is reflected in the steep fall-off in South Asian student numbers when teaching moved online”. “With prospective students unable to rely on employment income in Australia to support their studies, new commencements of Indian students at Australian higher education providers fell 65% between 2019 and 2021; for Nepali students, the decline was 37%; for Pakistanis, 45%; for Sri Lankans, 54%”. “These countries are simply too poor to send large cohorts of international students to Australian universities based on family resources alone”. “For many South Asian students, a student visa is a very expensive but thinly disguised work visa”. By contrast, Chinese university students, who mainly enrol in Group of Eight universities and leave Australia at the conclusion of their studies, are considered to be at low risk of abusing the visa system. Let’s be honest for a moment. If work rights and permanent residency were scaled back, the numbers of students arriving from non-Chinese source nations would collapse. MacroBusiness

[@randygraham926]

U.S. has a whole array of vastly worse problems that are going to hit home before they lose those Indian students. 😂 But thank you for the example -- it's an interesting one.

[@dpeasehead]

American exceptionalism cannot deal with the fact that in 2024 in a globalized economy, people have options, options which include not having to deal with being marginalized or racially or culturally targeted just to have access.

[@vladimircurkoski1455]

For at least 100 years 90% of the USA top scientist are born outside of the USA but from now on less of them will stay in the USA unless they are from LGBTQIA community, if they are then US is their promise land

[@allblacks405]

SG is successful primarily due to our ethnic Chinese majority. Because of geopolitical realities, SG is fond of placing vocal Indian leaders on the frontline to mask our majority ethnic Chinese composition. But when the real crunch comes e.g. Covid pandemic, who do we fall back on? Only the really capable and trustworthy ones step up to the plate like Lawrence Wong, Ong Ye Kung, Chan Chun Sing etc. On the other hand, consider a hypothetical leadership comprising only the likes of Tharman, Iswaran, Vivian Balakrishnan, Janil Puthucherry, Shanmugam, Pritam Singh. What happens? You get such impressive speeches in Parliament and in the media so that the average SG IQ might seem to hit the roof at 140. But then, in a period of crisis or even in peaceful times, I believe SG collapses irreversibly in 2 weeks' time!

[@cutbaitgofishing]

Dont you people worry one little bit, Gods going to give us the chosen one, Donald Trump. Let us thank the most high for giving us exactly what we deserve. Long live president Donald Trump.

[@arthurhwang117]

Gloating at own goals aside, I’m as usual grateful for Kevin putting numbers to the trends. I knew this was happening but not the extent. Twenty thousand : that’s some piece of cake on a platter !!!! Thank you America !!!

[@f1aziz]

It's fine, now American kids will pick-up the slack, if they decide to do something more than OF modeling, Twitch/YT streaming and Instagram influencing.

[@aniksamiurrahman6365]

Left after completing degree and after working for years. That means more opportunity for other nationality students/scientists. But it also means bad news for those studying in China.