Use WordPress, or just a Vanilla HTML5 site with CSS3?

[@abetipraise8617]

Great advise, can't stop getting more from you, your words are words from experience💓 Much love from Africa🙌🙌

[@chesterleespencer5808]

Thanks Uncle Mischook, Uncle Stefan for guiding us and all of your efforts on enlightening.

[@HCforLife1]

For simple site I would go with html and CSS if no Cms tequired. But as I know that most clients want to manage their content - NextJS - you can make very good "templating" system based on tailwind CSS or react libraries. You can make your own backend and CMS system, or you can use headless CMS - even the WordPress one lol. NextJS can be used for simple websites or anything you need including e-commerce platform. Tbh doing wordpress in 2022 is huge waste of your time. You will not learn a lot and you end up just using some templates and customizing colours, content and photos. If this is your career path than fell free to do it.

[@taariqq]

Aren't most of the simple websites, even the new ones, still being built in Wordpress ?

[@martindejonge695]

I've worked on some advanced stuff in WP HC. In my opinion, even if you are using a CMS as your basic tool I still think it is important to know how to write the code when you need to. The plugins don't always have what you need and either you get creative or write a plugin with your client's requirements. I like to use C++ and SFML/WxWidgets for hobby projects for example but when I want to take a game to Steam or Playstore I would use Unity or Unreal while it is interesting how these systems work why would I reinvent the wheel when I have everything I need to get the job done, not to mention your competition will be using the easiest solution. This is my opinion I am not defending these systems but unless it is a hobby project or something that requires me to build something from scratch I don't see why I should.

[@henkinjava8817]

@@martindejonge695 do you consider OP's solution as reinventing the wheel?

[@ohwow2074]

Ruby, the best and most efficient programming language in the milky way galaxy... 😙

[@theneverwas2835]

Great stuff, Sir.

[@phoenixsoftware834]

Thanks Stefan. One thing I hear quite a bit is that from an SEO perspective a wordpress site is easier due to the plugins etc - is that correct or is it easy to make a vanilla site SEO just as good as a wordpress site seo ?

[@visualmodo]

Excellent content!

[@ricvourn6404]

Hey, thanks Uncle Stef. I'm only on Python in your mentoring program, but learning a lot. This is a great addition to the going live course.

[@StefanMischook]

Great to hear!

[@taariqq]

So, what if one wanted to start out with building WordPress sites only. Would one still learn HTML and CSS first and thoroughly, or does a basic knowledge of these two is sufficient?

[@ragebait988]

You can make a website with Wordpress with no knowledge of html or css, with themes.

[@taariqq]

@@ragebait988 That I know. What I was wondering about was was how quickly would you come across a situation where you would need deeper knowledge of HTML and CSS? Just so one is ready ahead of time.

[@osamasiddiqui7802]

@@taariqqi think we have to learn both (wordpress ,html) to develop amazing websites

[@taariqq]

@@osamasiddiqui7802true, but I was asking "just for the beginning" and to get started. Cool.

[@silversolver7809]

I'm not in that game anymore, but when I was in 00s it was strongly advised to get domains and hosting from separate companies-so that a bad host couldn't hold your site hostage. Is that still the recommended best practice?

[@withthesun13]

Yes 👍🏽

[@jamesruport2608]

I would be interested in hearing more pros and cons to html vs Wordpress. If they want to blog or optimize for local SEO is Wordpress best? My web developer built my PT business on Wordpress. I’m currently rebuilding it with html css as a way to better learn

[@StefanMischook]

Learning HTML, CSS and PHP will amp your Wordpress game big time.

[@eugene.ruthven]

just caught this video - short and sweet - been following you for a while - generally like what you say - however when you say "100 yrs' old - back in the 90s - you are a baby - i've been coding since 1980 - does that make me your granddaddy? keep up the good work - i'm in TO while you're in montreal

[@kingnick6260]

Just use Macromedia Flash! ...I kid, I kid 😆

[@atoms.channel]

amature.... always use Ruby on Rails LOL

[@MattCupan]

99-2000, I was so enthralled with Flash. The way animation was setup with the scenes. Tweening. It's own scripting. Flash actually was super cool.

[@andyl9920]

Once a project is done and paid for. Will that be the end of the project? What happens if there are issues with the clients webpage in the long run ( next 3-6 months)? Will it be my responsibility to fix it, update it? How does this work in freelancing?

[@mrswolls]

Is WordPress just a template theme-builder type situation and do people pay to have you build them a site with just templates

[@davidx5828]

I wonder what a newbie lizard’s résumé looks like?

[@CarlosSantos-yl1hl]

I am planning to build a five-page site to show off my skills and my topic is RC cars. Should I do it?

[@robertbutcher222]

I want to be a front-end developer and it would be nice to make some sites for some clients, not as a freelance developer, but to get some experience. Do I need to know Wordpress or something similar to make sites for clients? Do I need to make them editable? If not, what could I do? I do know html, css, javascript, and some React. I know I could do a landing page, promotional page, informational page, and static sites that don't need to be edited by clients. Some people may not know what those types of sites are. So in general, what kind of sites would be good to make for clients to get my hands dirty, and how could I explain it to them, without saying I can't make it editable by you, store usernames/passwords, or make a login?

[@rahimeinollahi1]

It was good tips

[@nolancollet3458]

Thanks. Great tipps.

[@aneesahthequeen]

😍😍❤️❤️💙💙

[@jarosk1977]

Affiliates for hosting is short sighted and bad for the client. Why? Because you won't pick quality over amount hosting pays you. If you stick to one hosting because of affiliates and you find out they trash, with the time became bad or there is a new, very good player on the hosting market, first you won't search for better solution for your clients and second, you won't be encouraging clients to switch to better provider. In my experience, the worse hostings pays the best affiliate fees because it's their only way to get new clients. Btw my favourite I use and recommend now has no affiliates and thriving. And I thrive too because my clients know that I always recommend the best for them. Just think about that.

[@AngelCosta]

As someone who has a community of ppl who own web hosting companies, I can tell you that almost all hosts have referral systems,the good and the bad. Just pick the good one.

[@techycompute3636]

As long as you don’t use shared hosting and a good company it’s fine.

[@rolandsoos]

I thought I was watching the wrong video when I saw Stefan's face. Looking so sad 😂

[@nattsurfaren]

I don't agree with many of you. First, figure out what the purpose is. Do you want to learn web development to create websites for clients or do you want to build a service for yourself? If you want to create websites for clients then you need to speak with a couple of web bureaus and see how they do it. Ask them what they use because you want to work for them for example. Chances are that they use WordPress tools/plugins like Divi or Elementor to fast through something online. You don't want to spend a lot of time tweaking/fiddling with bootstrap or other frameworks? I don't think your clients would appreciate the amount of time you spend doing it that way.

[@CharlieKeiser]

Bootstrap doesn't take long if you don't have skill issues lulz

[@kaffeetasse2461]

vanilla rules, frameworks suck.