History of Roman Catholicism & Eastern Orthodoxy

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Episode 1: Origins & Early Schisms
• Christian Origins & Ea...
Episode 2: Roman Catholics & Eastern Orthodoxy
• History of Roman Catho...
Episode 3: Anglicans, Lutherans & Reformed
• History of Anglican, L...
Episode 4: Anabaptists & Quakers
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Episode 5: Baptists & Methodists
• History of Baptist & M...
Episode 6: Mormons, Adventists & JWs
• History of Mormon, Adv...
Episode 7: Pentecostals & Charismatics
• History of Holiness, P...
Episode 8: Miscellaneous Groups
• Obscure Churches You M...
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Charts & Narration by Matt Baker
Animation by Syawish Rehman
Audio editing by Ali Shahwaiz
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[@ReadyToHarvest]

It's been great to collab with you, Matt! I love how the tree is coming along so far.

[@stefanpieper3757]

You realize you keep calling him "Ready FOR Harvest", right?

[@AlanCanon2222]

Brilliant series. Ace job on the graphics, too.

[@ptolemeeselenion1542]

There has as many new churches as genders that keeps to be ignaugurated on a whim each passing scandal or bickering, nowadays.

[@LCCreole]

Hey Matt if you haven't done so can you please do a family chart on the Romance languages.

[@MyReluctantTheology]

My dad was right next to me laughing at how confusing this all is, and I said wait until we get to the Protestants.

[@paulgarduno2867]

Have you ever asked yourself about the root of protestantism.?

[@TheSulross]

Martin Luther appears on the scene and says, "hold my beer"

[@wilsontexas]

Catholics are protesting the current pope

[@CanadianAnglican]

@@TheSulross Martin Luther asked everyone to hold his earrings.

[@Caderic]

@@paulgarduno2867 What about it?

[@sniccups8390]

I just want to point out that "Oriental" comes from the Latin word for "east". Now think about how Christianity has an "Eastern Orthodox Church", an "Oriental Orthodox Church", and a "Church of the East"... and they're all different churches.

[@jasmijnwellner6226]

I was thinking the same thing, and that's not even including how it has 23 Eastern Catholic Churches

[@geoffreystill1038]

Welcome to the English language, where a bunch of rivers in the americas are technically named “River River”

[@BulletTheEnforcer]

@@geoffreystill1038 Don’t get me started on the Desert Desert in Africa.

[@JonK...]

Technically they're the one Church, just different denominations. After all the Church is made up of people who are called to God ... the Ecclesia ... not the organisations nor the buildings.

[@Frahamen]

​@@geoffreystill1038 not uniquely English at all think of the country of Timor Leste. Timor being derived from Malay/Indonesia word meaning "east" and Leste from Portuguese for "east".

[@Wolfeson28]

I really appreciate the fact that not only do you specifically dedicate time in your videos to addressing critiques from your comments, but you even modify your charts to incorporate those issues or to provide greater clarity. That's a rare level of dedication to your craft and to providing clear accurate information. Thank you, and keep up the great work!

[@peaceinapod1]

Agreed 100%. We don't even deserve all this for free, it's so thoughtfully and professionally created! truly unique kind of content.

[@anthonyrosario7414]

Yeah this is a great point and I’m glad it was written. His videos are of a truly exceptional quality.

[@2ndfloorsongs]

Yep, me too. No it doesn't have to be free, you can always go buy a chart or two or more. I'm in that last category. One thing that sometimes gets lost amid all the praise for objectivity and thoroughness, is that the basic physical charts themselves are really quite well made.

[@user-pi6uq1ws4b]

the prophet mohamd said : The Jews split into seventy-one sects, one of which will be in Paradise(Those who are faithful to God and worship Him alone) and seventy in Hell . The Christians split into seventy-two sects, seventy-one of which will be in Hell and one in Paradise(Those who are faithful to God and worship Him alone). I swear by the One Whose Hand is the soul of Muhammad, my nation will split into seventy-three sects, one of which will be in Paradise and seventy-two in Hell.” It was said: “O Messenger of Allah, who are they?” He said: “The main body(Those who are faithful to God and worship Him alone as salafi as al albanian and ibn otheimin ibn timia ibn kaiim ) .........We must follow the truth and not follow the devil and not follow ourselves.

[@hidjri1445]

@calebzeman3818 There is no salvation on the Day of Resurrection except by worshiping God alone, according to the methodology of the Messenger Muhammad

[@RichardGarber]

I would also mention the Old Believers, who broke off from the Russian Orthodox Church during reforms in the 17th century, and were anathematized. Recently, some of those anathemas were lifted, but they're still mostly independent.

[@dewd9327]

All over a calendar too

[@imokin86]

@@dewd9327 not just the calendar, but mostly because of a bunch of changes to the Bible translation and the rituals. Among the changes was the spelling of Jesus, so it wasn't all admin.

[@imokin86]

And the Old Believers themselves consist of at least 2 independent church hierarchies and a large number of smaller sects, including those who literally have no hierarchy and do not ordain priests.

[@kurtrosenthal6313]

I believe they actually split over the way they do the sign of the cross.

[@imokin86]

@@kurtrosenthal6313 that was one of the big issues. As far as I know, the re-edition of the Church Slavonic Bible was the most fundamental change, but the sign of the cross must have been the most tangible.

[@TheMozilla79]

I honestly wish you all the best with making a coherent tree for all the Protestant/Restorationist denominations. It is nothing short of a mess, even from my very narrow viewpoint

[@swausgebouwen143]

Nah it's easy

[@michaelsmith4904]

Good luck not missing any of the hundreds of Restorationist splinter groups, many of which are extinct.

[@KengCo7]

Anglican, Methodist, Presbyterian, Lutheran? I can't think of any more Protestant Churches but Ireland is (on paper at least) so homogeneously Catholic with small congregations of Anglicans, Methodists and Presbyterians. I have only heard about Lutherans because Martin Luther started the Reformation

[@isaacvogt9220]

@@KengCo7 You also got Nazarenes, Baptists, Non-denominational (which is ironic as it’s kinda become a denomination in itself) and if we’re counting them based solely off of beliefs in Christ Jehovas Witnesses and Mormons and many branches from those original breakaway Protestant denominations to over 5000 different denominations from some sources. There’s something like 13 different Baptist churches alone

[@jojannekevisscher9923]

​​@@KengCo7 Almost every country has their own denominations, I'm Dutch and I don't even know all of them within The Netherlands. The biggest are the Gereformeerde, the Hervormde, the Lutherse, and the Vrijgemaakte churches (though they have technically been united under Protestantse Kerken Nederland). Most of them fall under Calvinist teachings!

[@CollinBuckman]

Fun fact: There used to be a third patriarch in Constantinople, after the 4th Crusade the Catholics set up their own Latin Patriarch to replace the Orthodox one, and this position still existed long after they were driven from the city as a "titular see", only being abolished in 1964.

[@user-pi6uq1ws4b]

the prophet mohamd said : The Jews split into seventy-one sects, one of which will be in Paradise(Those who are faithful to God and worship Him alone) and seventy in Hell . The Christians split into seventy-two sects, seventy-one of which will be in Hell and one in Paradise(Those who are faithful to God and worship Him alone). I swear by the One Whose Hand is the soul of Muhammad, my nation will split into seventy-three sects, one of which will be in Paradise and seventy-two in Hell.” It was said: “O Messenger of Allah, who are they?” He said: “The main body(Those who are faithful to God and worship Him alone as salafi as al albanian and ibn otheimin ibn timia ibn kaiim ) .........We must follow the truth and not follow the devil and not follow ourselves.

[@sutrisno6270]

@@user-pi6uq1ws4b the true islam is mutazilah, the one that brought golden age. and you all (ahlul sunna wal jamaah etc) persecute and kill them

[@mr.anderson2241]

@@user-pi6uq1ws4b I don’t think anyone asked

[@User_5tjk42gj9]

​@@user-pi6uq1ws4b Was that before or after he rap 3d a child?

[@Dank-gb6jn]

Prayers for my persecuted Orthodox brothers and sisters, and all those around the world. While I’m non-denominational, the persecution of those who “worship in unapproved fashion” is unconscionable. Peace and light be upon all those who walk the path.

[@GustavSvard]

As an atheist I must agree! "the persecution of those who “worship in unapproved fashion” is unconscionable." YES! Freedom of religion is a must.

[@Dank-gb6jn]

@@GustavSvard I thank you for standing for freedom, Brother! The persecution of all religious peoples must stop, regardless of how they choose to worship, or what church they belong to. Whether Orthodox and of any particular church, or Uighur, or any other group who is persecuted for their faith; freedom *must* be protected. Peace and light be upon you!

[@Uthwita]

Become Orthodox

[@Dank-gb6jn]

@@Uthwita it’s not that simple for me unfortunately. There’s only one parish in my local area, and I have no way to get there lol. Plus, despite the parish’s efforts, it hasn’t *quite* caught on the way the Greek Orthodox Church has in the larger metro area. My family (Baptists) would rather (begrudgingly mind you) that I be Catholic than Orthodox.

[@q-tuber7034]

“Today most Old Calendarists… are late to appointments, often by several weeks.”

[@martanoconghaile]

Guys, the Protestant video is going to be WILD. 😄😁 Would have to do a separate video to cover the various Pentecostal churches.

[@enixbluerain7213]

It's going to look like a jungle.

[@myspleenisbursting4825]

you were right

[@wilsontexas]

Its almost as if protestant churches are less based on large authoritarian man made institutions and there members more independent thinking.

[@Caderic]

I haven't looked yet, but videoS. LOL

[@richardw3470]

Try the Amish. Do you know there is an Amish 'church' which consists of 4-5 people - all with the same last name? My guess would be a husband, wife and their kids. If I say you wear yellow on Friday and you disagree - start your own church.

[@coolthefool1]

it’d be cool if you added a rough estimate of how many people pertain to each branch

[@KengCo7]

Seconded

[@denisenilsson1366]

Thirded.

[@HistoryLuvr]

Fourthed

[@givenmars]

Fiveded

[@joythomasvallianeth6013]

Sixded !

[@VictoriaReginaAnn]

Very interesting. I watched this episode especially since my husband was Greek Orthodox and I am Roman Catholic.

[@georgiandude4810]

As an Eastern Orthodox christian, I think good thing to point out, would be that some of the Orthodox churches were abolished/revoked by Russia or Russian Empire, for example Georgia was christianized around the 4th century, but it only recently regained autocephaly.

[@daniel.grigorov132]

and Bulgaria too...I think in 1870s in Constantinople. Thank you for the good addition :)

[@logankrecic496]

It amazes me how unbiased you are, excellent video, I’m a Catholic myself so you did an great job explaining the church. Also interesting different between the eastern rite Catholic Church’s , they have married priests

[@jdotoz]

So do the Latins, it's just much rarer.

[@josecarlosmoreno9731]

@@jdotoz Afaik married priests in the Latin Rite are due to married priests from other denominations converting, are there other cases?

[@jdotoz]

@@josecarlosmoreno9731 I'm sure there are other odd cases here and there - it's a big church - but I don't actually know of any.

[@SunnyRayPL]

@@jdotoz Married priests consist of two groups: - presbyters converted from Anglican churches - deacons consecrated after marriage

[@Hopeternal316]

I like what one Holy priest here says… that he almost wishes (his words) ‘that Catholic priests could be ‘allowed’ to get married, because he is convinced that NONE of them would!! Devoted to their duties and celibacy is quite an ultimate sacrifice. They are the only ones left standing and showing forth the kingdom of Heaven in the future where there will be no marriage…. And in this sexually saturated world, i for one, consider that beyond heroic!

[@Artur_M.]

Fun fact: the city of Lviv used to be the seat of three Catholic archdioceses at once: a Roman, a Greek (Ukrainian) and an Armenian one. Also, since we have the Old Calendarists on the chart, maybe we could also have the Old Believers (Old Ritualists) - a splinter group(s) of the Russian Orthodox Church that rejected the reforms of Patriarch Nikon in the early second half of the 17th century and go one to this day? Edit: an amazing video overall, of course!

[@Artur_M.]

@YAJUN YUAN I'm not an expert. Without checking, I can tell you that it was a whole list of simingly very minor changes to the liturgy and ritual, including the specific proper way to make the sign of the cross. I was about to google it, but honestly, you can probably do it yourself instead of waiting for me to do my research and write back to you. BTW, the whole split is known in Russian as _raskol_ (раскол).

[@kaloarepo288]

The same thing applies to Egypt where there is the Coptic patriarch (called pope like the Roman one) who is part of the oriental orthodox church: then there is the Greek Orthodox equivalent -part of the eastern Orthodox church whose head is the patriarch of Constantinople and then there is the Catholic Coptic patriarch that is part of the Roman Catholic church! Not to mention the Anglican and Lutheran denominations.

[@wordart_guian]

officially, the armenian one still exists, although it's vacant and i don't know what happened to the ukrainians in galicia.

[@toranshaw4029]

Then there's the various Liberal Catholic Churches too, that are part of the Independent Catholic Movement.

[@user-pi6uq1ws4b]

the prophet mohamd said : The Jews split into seventy-one sects, one of which will be in Paradise(Those who are faithful to God and worship Him alone) and seventy in Hell . The Christians split into seventy-two sects, seventy-one of which will be in Hell and one in Paradise(Those who are faithful to God and worship Him alone). I swear by the One Whose Hand is the soul of Muhammad, my nation will split into seventy-three sects, one of which will be in Paradise and seventy-two in Hell.” It was said: “O Messenger of Allah, who are they?” He said: “The main body(Those who are faithful to God and worship Him alone as salafi as al albanian and ibn otheimin ibn timia ibn kaiim ) .........We must follow the truth and not follow the devil and not follow ourselves.

[@TheRicsilver48]

As a Catholic, who had a jewish mother, i cant tell u how I enjoy hearing a Jewish man explaining the organization of the catholic church. ;) My mother would always say, "why do they make it so hard?"

[@ccoder4953]

Oh, you ain't seen nothing yet. Wait till he gets to protestants. Just the baptist branches will make your head spin.

[@ranelgallardo7031]

Even Jews have their own divisions, it’s just that they’re not that big like Christianity, your average non-Jew may not know or notice.

[@johnnybgood2887]

​@Ranel Gallardo ...or simply don't care.

[@thor9838]

Why does WHO make WHAT so hard ??

[@sitting_nut]

one can feel the anti christian hate

[@fatima22]

Many thanks for the representation of Eastern Catholicism!

[@Deraoel64]

As always, you guys never disappoint in presenting genuine, reliable charts tracing back this time the different branches of Christianity. Definitely going to suggest my students to go and watch this video for an assignment. Keep up the good work guys!

[@JayBandersnatch]

I've saved these video in my "to share" folder. This is a great visual addendum to Bart Ehrman's "Lost Christianities".

[@stephenbruner5820]

Thank you for discussing the St. Thomas Christians of India in this video. You mention the role of the apostle St. Thomas, in spreading Christianity in India. Armenia has a similar history of the Apostles St. Bartholomew and St. Thaddeus.

[@thecategoricalcringeperative]

*cooks entire box of popcorn in preparation for the 3.5 hour Protestant segment and 11 hour follow-up clarification segment*

[@untruelie2640]

Perhaps you could also include the "Old Believers", who broke away from the Russian Orthodox Church after the reforms of Patriarch Nikon (between 1652 and 1667)? Also, thank you for doing all this work and presenting it to us. As a non-religious person, the structure and timeline of christian denominations has always been hard to follow for me, this helps a lot. :)

[@TheFranchiseCA]

IIRC, the 'Old Believers' were right about what the original practice was, while the ROC adapted Greek practices they believed were older, but weren't.

[@chrisinnes2128]

What about the mariavites

[@Uthwita]

​@@TheFranchiseCA no

[@deepakmt92]

Accurate information on the Syro Malabar Catholic Church. Also, they have dioceses outside India, like Chicago, Melbourne and the UK. The archbishop or the Cardinal who is based out of Kerala state in India, is the head of the whole Syro Malabar Catholic Church within and outside India.

[@joythomasvallianeth6013]

It is high time all the 23 non-Latin catholic churches returned to their parent churches instead of clinging like slaves under the "Latin bishop of Rome" or the Latin Pope. It is the shrewd Latin catholic church which has split the ancient Kerala Syriac christians into several branches and now we have the syro-malabar, Syro-malankara, Knanaya catholic, Knanaya orthodox, Marthoma, Thozhiyur church, the Chaldean syriac, orthodox syriac, Jacobite syriac and so on among the Syrian christian community. I wish they all got united under the original Syriac Patriarchate of Antioch. They came under the church of the East hierarchy for a short period from the late 12th century onwards and then under the Latin Church in the late 15th century and finally split into various groups by the 16th century as what you see today with a good number of them returning to the parent church , viz., the Jacobite orthodox church. In between they brought the false history of St. Thomas conversion of the South Indian christians and the 4th century migration of persian christians to Kerala which is again a false narrative.

[@Daniel_Abraham1099]

Bro you got church history from a scammer. The church of the East has a LONG history with the St Thomas Christians, beginning with St Thomas himself. The west syriacs came way later.

[@joythomasvallianeth6013]

@@Daniel_Abraham1099 You mean St. Thomas belonged to the East Syriac Church ? The ancient Kerala christians came in contact with the East Syriac church in an organised way from the late 12th century onwards only sir. Before that they were west syriacs only. The 9th century bishops Mar Sabore and Mar Aphroth who came to Kollam in 823 AD were West syriacs sir. This is confirmed from the type of several churches they have established from Kollam ( Tharissappally) to Kunnamkulam (or the entire Travancore) belt. This is very well explained by the Syro-malankara catholic church founder Mar Ivanios of Pattom, Trivandrum in one of his articles. In that article he has quoted various evidences to prove his point. It was the Latin bishop Menezes and his stooges who brought them and tied these Antichene bishops in the Nestorian stable sir. This propaganda still continues by the Syro-malabarians and the Devokam headquartered Syriac Orthodox Church history comedians ! Again the entire community came under the Latin pope with the arrival of the Portugese ! This is the true history. Rest are all cooked up lies ! What evidence you have got contrary to the above statements sir? Please do not say, so and so said etc. Have you seen the original manuscripts etc. This St. Thomas's visit to Kerala and converting Brahmins is an old grandma story fit for the dust bin in this 21st century sir. Same is the myth of the Knai Thomman migration to Kerala ! In the early centuries, there were Jews visiting Kerala from the West Asia regions for trade purposes and then came the christians and finally the Arab muslim traders. They came sailing using the Monsoon winds and had to stay back for favorable winds to return which took few months. Meanwhile they married local women and set up families. And they kept coming back for their business trips. Now you know how the term "Mappila" originated- men who always remained as evergreen husbands or sons -in- law - so you have Jootha mappila, Suriyani mappila and Tulukka (or Jonaka or Arabi )mappila etc ! These people spoke Jootha malayalam, suriyani malayalam or Garshuni and Arabi malayalam respectivy.These are the actual syrian christians which the foreign visitors to Kerala coast has seen and are mentioned in their travelogues before the 8th century. They are not the converts made by St. Thomas and that story is a cooked up story to give legitimacy to their christian ancestory. Occasionally there would have been visits by priests and very rarely a bishop etc !

[@roryfriththetraveller4982]

ahh i love how much history you can read from this, really fascinating! i'm not sure if theres enough information for more than a brief mention, but the story of what we think happened to Christianity in Britannia after the Roman Empire withdrew is fascinating (i've been going over it in college now, i'm an archaeological apprentice). It was definitely here before the Empire fell (see the Chi-Rho fresco in Lullington for one) but it kinda had to fend for itself during the Saxon migrations as by the time Iona and Lindisfarne were established, the population was majority pagan again. Since the islands were more or less abandoned by Rome for a long time, when what would become Latin Catholic christianity came back, they encountered this Insular Christianity (or "Celtic" Christianity) which had survived in some corners and Ireland (which Gildas makes a critique of in 560) and spread about to convert the majority of the Saxon Heptarchy by the time Norse invasion ramped up. It was reabsorbed for the most part when people fell back in line with Europe in the early medieval period but it's having a bit of a flavour revival now! great content as always x

[@mac397]

Ready for Harvest and UsefulCharts making a denomination tree together is match made in heaven

[@christian.editz1]

I'm Christian Coptic Orthodox from Egypt ☦️🇪🇬

[@joebykaeby]

Love to see Ready to Harvest get some attention. His videos are excellent, extremely information-dense, and definitely unbiased and straightforward, without the proselytizing.

[@kristincox4041]

I was raised in charismatic churches, particularly Pentecostal. I don’t know what I consider myself now but I’ve taken a deep dive into the history of Christianity in my 20’s and 30’s. I’m fascinated but how much history, traditions, beliefs, and rituals there are in all the Christian denominations. I was cut off from all that since Pentecostalism is bare bones Christianity. Though, I won’t step foot in a charismatic church now. 😅 All the personal beliefs I held throughout my life on god and Jesus and how I always saw them, imagine my surprise that I would be considered a heretic by the very tenets of Christianity. Can’t wait for part 3!

[@paulgarduno2867]

Read the Bible. Your eternal destiny will be decided by the word of God.

[@ataraxic89]

​@@paulgarduno2867which one There's like 500 versions of the bible with most conflicting not only with each other but themselves

[@chimeremnmaozioko17]

@ataraxic89 Now, idk why people act like the original manuscripts are not right there. And let's be fr, the versions are not contradictory. The underlying message is there. Also, it's so funny when people talk about the many versions of the Bible, but they're only referring to English translations.

[@chimeremnmaozioko17]

I believe you should be worried.

[@joeskill4663]

I know a lot of Protestants going to Eastern Orthodox. I’m currently looking into it because I am also curious of the history of Christianity. The guy in the video mentioned that the catholic and Eastern Orthodox seem to be the two branches that go back to the first century. To me that’s very significant. I noticed listing to the liturgy in the Easter orthodox church they chant that they believe in the one catholic and apostolic church. So the apostolic part of this is fascinating because, that means they believe their tradition was the one that came from the first apostles like Peter and Paul…😲

[@theogeitondasamphilochos5630]

I highly appreciate your decision to choose Ready to Harvest as your fellow in the adventure of Christian denominations! He's one of the most knowledgeable guys about Christian denominations, especially protestant ones, in the entire KZbin Also he's one of very few religion KZbinrs who keep being neutral without getting cynical about religion itself. There are many religion analysts who are just modernists happened to get interested in outdated traditions called religions, and in the other side there are many religious KZbinrs who inevitably has strong biases as for religious matters. Joshua is very rare one who sincerely cares about each Christian denominations and gives you accurate descriptions of them to help you to choose the church best suited for your faith..

[@toranshaw4029]

Especially as he comes from an Indepdent Baptist background, so you can imagine how he must be inwardly cringing at some of the beliefs other denominations hold.

[@ozzyp97]

His videos are good, but I'm sometimes quite put off by the audience. He seems to attract a rather specific type of Christian, or at the very least that part of his audience is particularly vocal.

[@cameronoleary3916]

I hope the final poster has all 23 Eastern Catholic Churches. It would be nice to see my Church on it, especially since it never broke Communion with either Rome or Constantinople

[@ulysse9471]

Can you give us a hint what church it is?

[@cameronoleary3916]

@@ulysse9471 The Italo-Greek Church

[@ulysse9471]

@@cameronoleary3916 - Thank you.

[@mr.anderson2241]

I’m fairly certain the Maronite never splintered off either

[@cameronoleary3916]

@@mr.anderson2241 They eventually all fully came back into orthodoxy, but there was a time they were Monothelites. The Maronites also broke Communion with Constantinople during the Great Schism. The Italo-Greek Church never fell into heterodoxy and never broke Communion with Rome or Constantinople

[@daniel.shalome]

Truly amazing Matt. this is in depth and phenomenal work. I was raised a protestant so I'm really looking forward to mid march. I've had my hours and days of research on this and got super confused to a point where I got my head heated. blessings and strength to you my man. Thank you for sharing this value.

[@chriscoke2505]

What are you now

[@daniel.shalome]

@@chriscoke2505 I'm not sure at the moment. I'm not a practicing Christian but a monotheist.

[@kamakiller1145]

Just to note , the see of Antioch is still in Syria, but their seat is now in Damascus. Same for the see of alexandria. Their seat is now in cairo

[@joythomasvallianeth6013]

But the original Antioch where the Syriac christianity started is in present day South West Turkey. But hardly anyone is left there from that community because of the genocide by the muslims.

[@raerohan4241]

​@@joythomasvallianeth6013 Just to clarify, by "genocide" you are referring to the Siege of Antioch in the year 1268? The event which took place in response to the Principality of Antioch having aided the Mongols in killing countless Muslims in their campaign in Syria?

[@joythomasvallianeth6013]

@@raerohan4241 I am referring to the genocide in the last few centuries and also what is continuing to happen in Turkey under Erdogan !

[@overdose8329]

@@joythomasvallianeth6013 There was none

[@joythomasvallianeth6013]

@@overdose8329 What do you mean ?

[@jeremyturner4402]

So cool that you're partnering with Ready to Harvest! Love both of your content.

[@almightysosa3007]

This is by far the most extensive chart I’ve seen on the denominations of Christianity. Thanks for putting this together, I know it’s hard work that takes a lot of dedication and research.

[@thattimestampguy]

0:07 Part 1 Recap • Origins of Christianity • 1st 2 Church Councils ⛪️ 0:42 Roman Catholic & Eastern Orthodox Churches 2:15 1st: Addressing a few video 1 comments. 3:18 Ebionite Christians, Samaritans, Karaites - Jews who do not accept teachings of early rabbis. Early breakaway group. 5:24 *The Pentarchy* 1. Antioch 2. Rome 3. Alexandria 4. Jerusalem 5. Constantinople 6:17 Oriental Orthodoxy. Coptic Church. Ethiopian Christians. 7:35 Eastern Orthodoxy: Melkites 8:27 _Power Struggle_ Rome: Claims Precedence of Imperial Power Constantinople Holy Roman Empire Schism Byzantine Empire. 10:10 Filioque 10:50 United until 1054 13:28 Orthodox Church in America ☦️🇺🇸 ⛪️ 15:41 2018 Church Merger. 17:55 Latin Roman catholic Church 23:45 The Contemporary Pentarchy 25:17 Vatican I

[@StephenFischer]

Thanks! This is incredibly informative. It not only covers church history but also a great deal about how societies organized themselves over the past 2,000 years.

[@petermourtos874]

I just wanted to take a moment to thank you for the amazing job you do with your Useful Charts video on Christian denominations. As someone who has always been interested in religion and spirituality, I found your chart to be incredibly informative and well-researched. It's clear that you put a lot of time and effort into creating this resource, and I just wanted to let you know how much I appreciate your hard work. Your video has been an invaluable tool for me, and I have shared it with several of my friends who have also found it helpful. It's great to see someone who is so passionate about their subject matter and who is dedicated to making complex information more accessible to the general public. Once again, thank you so much for all that you do. I look forward to seeing more of your work in the future! PETER

[@johnmillholland6550]

This is my favorite series the channel has ever done. Thank you for taking the time to go down each branch. I think explaining the history of Christianity in this was is very useful.

[@comb528491]

One thing I would like to understand better is the various ideas and movements that the Church Fathers were educated in when formulating their positions. Like, the development of the Concept of Logos from Heraclitus to Philo to John. I'd also like to know the difference between the Thomasines and Johannines, like you touched on in a previous video, and other movements

[@johanmalm8378]

I really love this serie. Though would have liked you to tell a little bit more about the Old Catholic churches, maybe a mention of the Nordic-Catholic Churh. And something little about the complexity of Russian Orthodox churches because of the suppression during the Soviet Union. I recomend these vids to about everyone I know and really looking forward to the next.

[@helenagreenpine1496]

Thanks for doing this, I've learned more from these two videos than I ever have on church history/timeline.

[@owen_reynolds]

Ready to Harvest is a very underrated channel, I’m glad a large channel like yours is collaborating with him!

[@mavericktheace]

Thank you for this series. It's fascinating to see the history of Christianity so clearly depicted :)

[@drakewheeler8698]

I think its very fascinating to mention that the power is very much tied to the very chair they sit in, a "Cathedra" which is where you get the term "Cathedral". Such as the St. Peters chair.

[@jdotoz]

The concept seems to be even older, see, for example, how Jesus refers to rabbis who "sit in Moses's seat "

[@jeffkardosjr.3825]

Matt Whitman has an interview or tour with an Eastern Orthodox priest that explains this well.

[@Xerxes2005]

And that cathedra is in the Cathedral of St. John Lateran, and not in St. Peter basilica, even though St. Peter is more famous.

[@user-gr9fq9gt9w]

24:50 The different churches in Jerusalem (especially in the old city) are constantly arguing about jurisdiction in Jerusalem. Especially in the old city. (And I didn't even mention all the rivalries within the Orthodox church). Those tensions even led to violent conflicts many times and even required police interventions.

[@sol_mental]

Dude, this channel is like gold, simply gold. Thanks for teaching history, all the way, Thanks for another video on the topic.

[@TestifyApologetics]

Awesome of you mention Ready to Harvest! Such a helpful channel.

[@UsefulCharts]

Yeah, his channel is great.

[@MrJMB122]

I am Jewish boy that convert to Eastern Orthodox Church. Their idea of God man and creation was just to beautiful

[@ayeeniko]

Welcome! Christ is risen!

[@gregczarlinski2811]

Doesn’t matter how beautiful what matters is if its true

[@MrJMB122]

@@gregczarlinski2811 It's also much more ancient than whatever came out of the reformation.

[@Aksm91ManNavar]

I love Ready tor Harvest. Exceptional host

[@Kamarovsky_KCM]

The Catholic Patriarch of Jerusalem has such a hilariously Italian name. Pizzaballa? Like "Ayy Luigi pass-a me that-a pizzaball-a! I need-a cook-a da pizza!"

[@devoted_eater567]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😑😐

[@eaterdrinker000]

PIZZABALLA IS THE BEST NAME EVER (Burnt Wallet is second best.)

[@Tolozen]

I'm excited for the Protestant family tree which I'm hoping comes next after this video. Great work as always.

[@toranshaw4029]

KInda interested to see how many videos he takes to cover all the various Protestant sects!

[@CorvusLeukos]

@@toranshaw4029 denominations*

[@derniercaesar5319]

Protestant family forest

[@badcornflakes6374]

Orthodox and Catholic. The only true ways

[@paulgarduno2867]

​​@@badcornflakes6374 "catholic a true way" 😅get serious. Apostle Peter was a married Jew.( Most Jews don't pray to images.)

[@Algabatz]

The amount of research that goes into your videos must be staggering. Thanks for sharing!

[@WildH10L]

I watched your succession video for Queen Elizabeth when she died and thought your style was clear, concise and highly visually appealing. Then last night I ran in to a video explaining the different denominations of Christianity (a topic on which I have been highly confused about my whole life, having been raised with no religion) and was suggested your series. Thank you for these videos! Highly informative and beautifully styled. Shout-out from New Westminster ;)

[@teambrighton5059]

The narrator has a nice, soothing voice quality. It’s also slow and intentional, allowing me to focus, great job!

[@wadly312]

Can’t wait for the next video. Great succinct and clear conent as usual

[@geo24793]

Love Ready to Harvest! Joshua is great!

[@Stabu]

Huge thanks of doing this. It's already mind-blowingly complex and the protestants are yet to come. Oh dear.

[@CaskTheology]

These are great vids Matt. Can't wait to see the final chart, it's going to be super helpful.

[@bobfognozzle]

Thank you for doing this….what an eye opener!

[@superduck6456]

I was actually watching a Ready to Harvest video when I got this notification.

[@BillGreenAZ]

This effort that you put forth here seems to be exhausting. Thanks for putting in so much work to entertain us, Matt.

[@brokentwig]

Thanks for clearing up Eastern and Oriental! I can't wait to buy this poster.

[@PastryclownDK]

Awesome! Been looking forward to this one!

[@dliessmgg]

24:55 I gotta admit, that last name made me laugh. Also, this is not the first time in my life that I'm thinking about spherical pizzas.

[@junicornplays980]

His whole name sounds like a name someone made up to make you believe they're Italian.

[@AmericanShia786]

You improved a very good chart to an excellent chart! I will share with my Muslim and Christian friends!

[@alechorn1109]

I have been following both you guys for forever. Nice to see you working together.

[@hamzehshashaa2659]

Oh I was waiting! Excited to watch ❤ thank you

[@lookash3048]

Most people in Poland isn't aware that the Polish Orthodox Church is independent from the Russian Orthodox Church and Orthodox Christians often meet with discrimination and insults from side of Catholic Poles especially since 2022 and the beginning of the war in Ukraine.

[@jeffkardosjr.3825]

I saw a Polish Orthodox priest who was a customer at a place I worked a couple months ago.

[@Mary-el3pi]

This was so interesting and very informative. As a Cradle Catholic, I learned a lot of new information! You do a great job of explaining without showing a bias…that’s so important! Thanks so much. I’m looking forward to more of your videos. I’ve enjoyed videos from Ready for Harvest, too!

[@bdlarsen1225]

I look forward to the next episode.

[@nickverbree]

Can't wait for the next one!

[@hedrickwetshaves1997]

Matt @UsefulCharts Thank you so much! I've been studying early Greek Texts of the New Testament and this is truly helpful in understanding how, who, and where in regards to the early manuscripts.

[@knightrider585]

Great video. Glad you teamed up with Ready to Harvest, his videos have been great for understanding lots of Christian denominations.

[@colingallagher1648]

thanks for all of your stuff

[@simonbrady5287]

Great video,very informative

[@LandgraabIV]

Thank you for including Samaritans!

[@jessica3285]

Lots of support Matt Your channel is truly amazing Just jumped from Josh's video

[@AnaIvanovic4ever]

Amazing video as usual!

[@MarlsbysDragons]

This is so fascinating and easy to follow! Looking forward to the other parts, I hope you discuss the catholic ordinariates, they’re one of the only groups in this I have any experience with and it’s pretty interesting.

[@KalebPeters99]

This was fantastic. I can't wait for the Protestant follow ups. Since they're most of the Christians I come across, some relevant knowledge and vocabulary will be greatly helpful 🙏

[@badcornflakes6374]

Bet you have Christians in your fam

[@johnsor2083]

Fantastic educational content you produce, thank you.

[@zzzaaayyynnn]

Speaking as a professor of technical communication, you do a wonderful job with these infographic videos!

[@lostfan5054]

This is my favorite series ever.

[@mariadelpilarllona4753]

Genial! I want all the charts😊

[@Omhikmat]

Wow, this was absolutely fascinating! Thanks for all your work, and thanks for sharing with us!!!

[@Aaron-be2pt]

I've been a staunch atheist for nearly forty years now, but damn it if I'm not glued to this series! Very interesting, very informative - I've always been fascinated by this topic. Thanks!

[@thomasdixon4373]

Been waiting for this video, Matt this main be outside of your subject are but could u do a video on the leaders of some of these denominations?

[@joshuanecklen1617]

Great Video. As a Roman Catholic (Latin Catholic) It all now makes sense.

[@Uthwita]

Become Orthodox

[@shannyyymae]

I don't regret renewing my youtube account because it led me to this channel. Oh how I love watching, listening and reading about Church history. Thank you for sharing your talent and making this youtube channel. 😇🥰

[@muzammilmuhammed109]

Exactly ❤

[@sol_mental]

HI MATT BAKER!! Between you and matpat, the internet is a wonderful place to be at. Mats are the best.

[@TemoKuntchulia]

Amazing video 👍👍👍 However, I would like to point out that placing the Georgian church as a church originating from the Russian church is an oversimplification since the Georgian Orthodox Church has existed long before the russian one. As a Georgian Christian I would like to add some additional information about the history of Georgian Orthodox Church in order to "unsimplify" the chart. Originally, since the IV century, the Church of Mtskheta (the Georgian church) was under the authority of the church of Antioch. However, due to long distances, Georgian church operated de-facto independently. In the late V century, Georgian church declared itself to be autocephalous (independent from Antioch), however initially Georgian church was not recognized by other churches (the exact date of this declaration is unknown, but traditionally the date was considered to be 484 AD). After the Caucasian campaign of byzantine emperor Heraclius the church of Constantinople claimed authority over the entire Caucasus region, however, in reality the byzantine church only controlled some parts of modern-day western Georgia. This western Georgian church became de-facto independent from the byzantines after Byzantium was engulfed in iconoclasm. The original Georgian church (Church of Mtskheta) continued operating in the eastern and southern areas of modern day Georgia and achieved recognition from the Patriarch of Antioch in X century. In XI century Georgian church was also recognized by the Patriarch of Constantinople as well. After this recognition, Georgian church became fully recognized member of the Orthodox community. Western Georgian church was officially under the authority of Mtskheta as well, but enjoyed a great deal of autonomy. In XV century, following the collapse of the united Georgian kingdom, the western Georgian church declared secession from Mtskheta, however other churches didn't recognize the secession. This western church was originally based in Bichvinta/Pitius and later in Kutaisi. In XVIII century the leader of the western church somewhat reconciled with the Patriarch of Mtskheta and recognized his authority over the west. In 1810 Georgian Orthodox Church was abolished by the church of moscow. The last Georgian Patriarch was detained and sent in exile to Russia, and the last leader of the western church was murdered by russian soldiers. Georgian church was placed under the authority of a russian exarch. The exarch was an appointed church official, who actively participated in an attempted (and luckily unsuccessful) cultural genocide of the Georgian people. Thousands of Georgian icons were stripped of valueables (which were later pocketed by corrupt russian clergymen) and hundreds of painted historic churches were covered in white paint in an attempt to erase historic Georgian frescoes. In 1917 Georgian clergymen ousted the exarch and declared the restoration of autocephaly. Moscow finally recognized the Georgian church in 1943. In 1990 the restoration of the Georgian church was recognized by Constantinople as well. In 1990's as a result of political and socio-economic instability following the collapse of the Soviet Union multiple minor breakaway groups were formed. Largest of these is the so called abkhazian orthodox church, which operates in abkhazia (a region of Georgia which was ethnically cleansed and seized by a separatist rebellion, currently is under Russian military occupation and is run by a Russian puppet regime). Abkhazian church claims to be the spiritual successor of the medieval western Georgian church, however none of the Orthodox churches (not even the Russian church) recognize the legitimacy of the abkhazian church. Russian patriarch uses abkhazian issue as a kind of political tool to influence and threaten (blackmail) the Georgians. This is the exact reason why Georgian church didn't recognize the Ukrainian church and only time will tell what will happen in the future... Anyway, if anyone has come this far, I hope my comment was informative and thanks for reading the whole thing👍

[@EllisMontes]

Great video! Just wanted to point out that some RC dioceses have multiple cathedrals, such as the two co-cathedrals in the diocese of Houston/Galveston. Also, there's technically a third one in the same diocese but for a different purpose: the Ordinariate of the Chair of St. Peter (headed by another bishop), which is in place to invite Anglican clergy to be received "back" into the RC church.

[@annebutler5169]

Thank you so much for Useful Charts. I love all the information. The Christian Denominations Family Tree is very interesting.

[@JaredMillsIA]

I had commented on one of Ready to Harvest’s that he should do a reaction video to this series, but I never imagined you guys would collaborate on this series!! My excitement for this series has sky rocketed to highest unknown!

[@yurineri2227]

I am catholic and I just want to say, thanks for the video, you did a great job

[@stevesmith4901]

I'd be interested to know what kind of catholic with reference to the video.

[@user-xh9td7ts1l]

@@stevesmith4901 probably Latin, as 99% of all Catholics.

[@yurineri2227]

@@stevesmith4901 Latin catholic, as matt said in this video 99% of all Catholics 1.3 billion are Latin catholic but it's still always nice when you find an Eastern Catholic it's not like they are rare, the other 23 catholic churches that have approximately 18 million members combined, which is still a lot, but they are comparatively less common

[@yurineri2227]

@@user-xh9td7ts1l yep, your guess was right :)

[@joythomasvallianeth6013]

​@@yurineri2227 You mean 1.3 billion ?

[@kaithompson3074]

I would really like to purchase this chart. Hope it hits your store. Thanks for updating it.

[@AJStrebeck]

You don't know how happy I am that you're tackling this project. I've been working on putting together a taxonomic tree of Protestant (and Reformed) denominations in my spare time for years and I'm very excited to see where our charts might agree or disagree.

[@bakanane]

Amazing work!! Cant wait for the other videos!!

[@lithuanianhussar]

Just for your information: the Ruthenian Orthodox Church became the Ruthenian Uniate Church in 1596, amid the leadership crisis after the fall of Constantinople. The metropolyte of Kiev and his subjects signed the union with Rome. Moscow had their own patriarch at that time. The Ruthenian Uniate Church effectively covered the whole areas of the Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth where the Eastern Christianity was spread before. The patriarch of Constantinople reestablished the orthodox hierarchy in Poland-Lithuania on his way to Moscow in 1620s, which at that time was viewed as a hostile act instigated by his Ottoman liege to fuel the cossac unrest in Ruthenia (Ukraine). By 1772 only a small minority of Orthodox christians existed in Poland-Lithuania, subject to Moscovite patriarch and often acting as a tool of Russia to undermine the PLC. When Russians took over Ruthenia and Lithuania they forcefully converted in 1839 the whole Uniate Church to Moscow Patriarchate, though culturally and esthetically up untill modern days the Orthodox in those lands were under influence of Kiev, not Moscow. Interestigly, up until the revolution there were initatives in Russia to make the day of the abolition of the Union a church holiday, so strong was the hatred towards it. And in those parts of Ruthenia which came under Austrian rule the Uniate Church was renamed Ukrainian Greek-Catholic and survived up until today, playing a major role in forming the Ukrainian nation (though after 1945 the Moscow patriarchate and the KGB also forcefully merged it with the Russian orthodox, which was partly reversed in late 80-s, but still a lot of Orthodox churches remained in Western Ukraine)

[@nugzarmikeladze]

13:20 actually Georgian Orthodox Church became autocephalous in 5th century. it was abolished by Russian Empire in 19th century and was restored 1917. I am as a Georgian disappointed that you missed that.

[@D.S.handle]

While I was watching the video I was also a bit surprised “did Russia really find the Georgian church?”. Do you know what happened to the Russian church in Georgia after the re-establishment of the local church in 1918?

[@nugzarmikeladze]

​@@D.S.handle all Orthodox Churches in Georgia changed jurisdiction from Russian Orthodox Church to Georgian Orthodox Church Automatically. Liturgy in Georgian Language was restored, but very few churches that was mostly visited by ethnic Russians continue to perform liturgies in Russian.

[@D.S.handle]

@@nugzarmikeladze got it, thanks.

[@nugzarmikeladze]

@@D.S.handle during the rule of Russian Empire performing liturgy in Georgian was banned.

[@D.S.handle]

@@nugzarmikeladze I get where UsefulCharts was coming from. I think the best way for him to illustrate the relation between the Georgian and the Russian Orthodox churches would have been by showing the Russian church consuming the Georgian one, and then the Georgian one coming out of the Russian.

[@BelOrthDude]

Looking forward to episode 3