USENIX Security '18-Q: Why Do Keynote Speakers Keep Suggesting That Improving Security Is Possible?

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James Mickens, Harvard University
Q: Why Do Keynote Speakers Keep Suggesting That Improving Security Is Possible?
A: Because Keynote Speakers Make Bad Life Decisions and Are Poor Role Models
Some people enter the technology industry to build newer, more exciting kinds of technology as quickly as possible. My keynote will savage these people and will burn important professional bridges, likely forcing me to join a monastery or another penance-focused organization. In my keynote, I will explain why the proliferation of ubiquitous technology is good in the same sense that ubiquitous Venus weather would be good, i.e., not good at all. Using case studies involving machine learning and other hastily-executed figments of Silicon Valley’s imagination, I will explain why computer security (and larger notions of ethical computing) are difficult to achieve if developers insist on literally not questioning anything that they do since even brief introspection would reduce the frequency of git commits. At some point, my microphone will be cut off, possibly by hotel management, but possibly by myself, because microphones are technology and we need to reclaim the stark purity that emerges from amplifying our voices using rams’ horns and sheets of papyrus rolled into cone shapes. I will explain why papyrus cones are not vulnerable to buffer overflow attacks, and then I will conclude by observing that my new start-up papyr.us is looking for talented full-stack developers who are comfortable executing computational tasks on an abacus or several nearby sticks.
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@JohnHaugeland
@JohnHaugeland 5 жыл бұрын
the only man funnier than james mickens is also james mickens
@uraniumu242
@uraniumu242 Жыл бұрын
True but James Mickens makes them both look dull.
@MarkusEicher70
@MarkusEicher70 5 ай бұрын
What a great Keynote. And it is still relevant. Even more than back in 2018. James Mickens speech was hilarious. Thanks for sharing.
@Overthought7
@Overthought7 2 жыл бұрын
The "s" in IoT stands for "security"
@DeputatKaktus
@DeputatKaktus 5 жыл бұрын
"Manifest Destiny oftentimes ends in dysentery." That is solid Quote Gold.
@reddragdiva
@reddragdiva 5 жыл бұрын
This is good for the first 28 minutes, then it takes off and is GREAT.
@colinjohnson5515
@colinjohnson5515 4 жыл бұрын
“Tls is the only good thing we have” man I cant believe I haven’t read all his stuff already.
@deepak_sandhu
@deepak_sandhu 5 жыл бұрын
"The stuff is what the stuff is, brother."
@ShredST
@ShredST 5 жыл бұрын
14:03 "Just explore that studio space, okay?" Underrated.
@komuwairagu3942
@komuwairagu3942 5 жыл бұрын
Every James Mickens talk I have seen or essay I have read has been worth it.
@anthonyedwardcooper8820
@anthonyedwardcooper8820 2 жыл бұрын
Common sense is the rarest sense of all, which makes this speaker a very rare individual indeed. As a technologist I have been sceptical about a lot of things that have happened in this space, but Mr Mickens brings it into to sharp focus with a highly entertaining talk.
@zhichuangsun7726
@zhichuangsun7726 5 жыл бұрын
It's really embarrassing that I work in IoT security and it's even more embarrassing that what James said is true.
@afterthesmash
@afterthesmash 4 жыл бұрын
IoT security ... the ultimate target-enriched environment.
@ThekoLekena
@ThekoLekena 5 жыл бұрын
Im trying to describe how great that talk was but the interplay of technical detail with quality presentation material makes it hard to be retold. Great presentation. Great work and an even more powerful message for a computer scientist/engineer.
@valentinperetroukhin9474
@valentinperetroukhin9474 5 жыл бұрын
What a wonderfully poignant, provocative, engaging, .... just fucking fantastic talk (and slide design!). I do research in machine learning and this is exactly the kind of scepticism much of the community lacks.
@MrSushant3
@MrSushant3 5 жыл бұрын
*James Mickens 2020* . I've never laughed and learned this much from any talk in my life. 😂
@DavidBerglund
@DavidBerglund Жыл бұрын
Why did I just find this now... This is pretty much a must see for anyone in IT. Especially as we see Bing's AI chat and ChatGPT being connected to The Internet of hate and being allowed Python code execution.
@technoturnovers7072
@technoturnovers7072 9 ай бұрын
To be fair, GPT-3 is a static model when running in production, so at least they're not making the same mistake as Tay and allowing bigoted inputs to actually corrupt the neural network in real time lmfao
@DavidBerglund
@DavidBerglund 9 ай бұрын
@@technoturnovers7072 it's been known leak private information though, hasn't it? With billions of layers building up these models at best you're making good guesses about the answers you might get to any given question, right? It's amazing technology and it has to be used very cautiously.
@calmhorizons
@calmhorizons Жыл бұрын
This should be required watching for all AI hype-thusiasts.
@EmilyFortuna
@EmilyFortuna 5 жыл бұрын
James Mickens gives me hope for this world.
@jasa_m7990
@jasa_m7990 4 жыл бұрын
I will watch this many times and share it everywhere.
@xpehkto
@xpehkto 5 жыл бұрын
Can you please enable subtitle crowdsourcing for this video and your channel?
@Nick_fb
@Nick_fb Жыл бұрын
This guy brings balance to the force
@CancerLicker
@CancerLicker 5 жыл бұрын
Absolutely genius from beginning to end.
@dactylntrochee
@dactylntrochee 5 жыл бұрын
This is a guy I have to follow. I'm aware of how deafening my echo chamber is but, until now, I didn't have a way to step out of it. Bravo!
@an2qzavok
@an2qzavok 5 жыл бұрын
RIP Tay, you was the best.
@zzzzzzmc
@zzzzzzmc 4 жыл бұрын
"So, like, if you don't use firewalls and stuff like that, you're potatoes are gonna get compromised; don't be shocked!" Campaign slogan for Mickens 2020. I'm thinking of volunteering
@marcocaballero
@marcocaballero 5 жыл бұрын
This talk is the new standard to which I'll hold all future kenyotes.
@thesteaksaignant
@thesteaksaignant Жыл бұрын
great talk, so many people need to see that ! The problem with machine learning is probably that it is so easy to do, as you said anyone can create an AI-based startup
@davidbenson4845
@davidbenson4845 5 жыл бұрын
Really good. Even for passers-by who know nothing about security. That said you don't need so many gags. They started to get in the way of the very interesting content
@GStarGoku3
@GStarGoku3 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, very nice presentation.
@edisontrent618
@edisontrent618 3 жыл бұрын
I only wish these kind of people had the influence necessary to actually change that the people in charge are implementing this technology that he hates on purpose.
@dfsafsadfsadf
@dfsafsadfsadf 5 жыл бұрын
I loved it. Thank you!
@kylel3542
@kylel3542 5 жыл бұрын
most hilarious keynote ever!
@bowarburton1010
@bowarburton1010 5 жыл бұрын
"The Internet is a cauldron of evil" 6:38
@dirtygurdyman2603
@dirtygurdyman2603 5 жыл бұрын
He should be the mandatory keynote speaker at all cons
@georgebailycrealogix2394
@georgebailycrealogix2394 5 жыл бұрын
James Mickens for President
@AdolfoNeto
@AdolfoNeto 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent talk!
@fishinawaterbottle
@fishinawaterbottle 5 жыл бұрын
Very good speaker
@rawwars
@rawwars 5 жыл бұрын
video should be called: machine learning unveiled and demystyfied
@molozful
@molozful 5 жыл бұрын
3:10 - hey, it could have been two full ping pong balls - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banach%E2%80%93Tarski_paradox
@Itangalo
@Itangalo 5 ай бұрын
I love this presentation!
@el3m3ntxero
@el3m3ntxero 5 жыл бұрын
This is great but I would love to see usable solutions rather than criticisms. Still though, should be required watching for all infosec/dev/syseng people.
@user-lb1ib8rz4h
@user-lb1ib8rz4h Жыл бұрын
did you watch 42:28, 45:44, or 47:30? solutions already provided.
@viraldazzy
@viraldazzy 5 жыл бұрын
engaging talk.
@kamalabuhenamostafa
@kamalabuhenamostafa 5 жыл бұрын
classic, i am impressed.
@AlexBerg1
@AlexBerg1 5 жыл бұрын
Dang, that is one good orator. Funny af. Not sure what the message was, but I think that's okay.
@briancarnell
@briancarnell 5 жыл бұрын
He's just as cogent and entertaining in the Q&A when he isn't relying on so many gags. Unfortunately, his point does seem to get lost in his delivery, although it was incredibly entertaining.
@MattSimmonsSysAdmin
@MattSimmonsSysAdmin 5 жыл бұрын
"Don't"
@andysinclair943
@andysinclair943 5 жыл бұрын
THINK before applying technology to everything and anything. The application of technology by itself isn't enough, it needs to be the right technology with the appropriate minimal safeguards built in by design.
@KeithMakank3
@KeithMakank3 4 жыл бұрын
My response here is that there are already completely inscrutable parts of software that are deeply trusted, machine learning contributes nothing here.
@MistaSmith
@MistaSmith 5 жыл бұрын
you didn't link the papers and youtube suggestions on the youtube video of the speech?
@ba5eem
@ba5eem 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic!
@PatrickvonSychowski
@PatrickvonSychowski 5 жыл бұрын
This John Oliver with a Harvard professorship. Respect!
@athensga67
@athensga67 Жыл бұрын
44:41 "Your paper will get rejected if it sounds like it was written by someone who struggles with depression."
@nathansgreen
@nathansgreen 5 жыл бұрын
I guessed the one word summary!
@alexmcauley5433
@alexmcauley5433 5 жыл бұрын
It's "Par-tick thistle football club" not "Pat-rick" :)
@icantseethis
@icantseethis Жыл бұрын
I'm skeptical of this. PS: you didn't have to bring Steve Holt into this, dude.
@christopherdehaas3820
@christopherdehaas3820 5 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha hilarious. This made my day :)
@ed1726
@ed1726 5 жыл бұрын
46:52 I want that book.
@maximilianalbekier2209
@maximilianalbekier2209 5 жыл бұрын
STEVE HOLT!
@jbinmd
@jbinmd 5 жыл бұрын
Q-Bert!
@bruhmoment1835
@bruhmoment1835 3 жыл бұрын
I don't agree with him much, but damn he's funny.
@technicalmachine1671
@technicalmachine1671 5 жыл бұрын
Soooo… I can't use machine learning?
@knightonlibrary1183
@knightonlibrary1183 5 жыл бұрын
ahem - Partick Thistle not Patrick, unfortunately.
@rerere284
@rerere284 5 жыл бұрын
he sounds like the boundary break guy
@Standbackforscience
@Standbackforscience 5 жыл бұрын
Laugh riot. And informative.
@VladyVeselinov
@VladyVeselinov 2 жыл бұрын
This was so good, what the fuck
@KeithMakank3
@KeithMakank3 4 жыл бұрын
gigabit ethernet signals are not interpret-able either lol
@Ceelvain
@Ceelvain 2 жыл бұрын
Most issues raised about ML are in fact also true about humans. Humans ARE inscrutable. You may ask them to explain their actions. And they will give you one. Likely a convincing one. Yet psychology has shown again and again that for most decisions, this explanation is totally made up after the fact. I'm not saying we should trust ML as much as humans in every situation. But the reason not to do so is more complicated that "it's inscrutable".
@z_t_k
@z_t_k Жыл бұрын
You can hold humans to account for their actions (hypothetically corporations and governments can be held accountable - but in practice it is much more difficult.) Putting an inscrutable and unaccountable system in the position of making life impacting decisions is likely to end up causing problems for somebody. Thus the call to action to carefully think through deploying these systems is important to heed.
@Ceelvain
@Ceelvain Жыл бұрын
@@z_t_k interestingly, this raises the question of what is accountability. Philosophically, I mean. (I don't care about obligations of gathering proofs you did your job correctly. AIs can do it too.) We, humans, like to have someone to blame when something goes wrong. But it's often more complicated than that, isn't it? Nobody does something bad on purpose. Either they believe it's the good thing to do, or they made a mistake. Sometime both: they make a mistake and rationalize by being convinced this was the right thing to do afterwards. We usually say that someone is responsible for an incident when they had the capacity to foresee the incident and had the capacity to make a decision that would have avoided it. In that regard, AIs are *much more* scrutable than humans. We can take a model, replay a situation tons and tons of time in slightly different scenarios and probe every step of the computation. We can't say that much about humans. (Even if we could, it'd be highly unethical.) What's missing with AIs (and with corporations to some extent), is the incentive to not take an action that can result in a bad outcome. The way to do it is to hurt its goal and have it take that negative reward into account into its decisions. The only missing piece of technology is that AIs are very bad at taking into account very high but very infrequent negative rewards. I mean, humans are bad... But AIs are worse... For now.
@JosephCatrambone
@JosephCatrambone 5 жыл бұрын
James Mickens is amazing and hilarious. I don't agree with everything he said here (some loaded assumptions imho), but damn this was a good talk.
@Zonno5
@Zonno5 3 жыл бұрын
the internet must be destroyed
@kimcooper87
@kimcooper87 5 жыл бұрын
I think *Weapons of Math Destruction* said it better.
@MichaelCampbell01
@MichaelCampbell01 5 жыл бұрын
For any given thing, there will always be something else that's better. Take this talk for what it is; a < 1 hour keynote, not a deep dive into a specific topic.
@ciesielskitadeusz
@ciesielskitadeusz 2 жыл бұрын
Example with sugar was lame. Not very good data sets. Funny to watch. But wonder if it would better whitout it.
@hoorayimhelping3978
@hoorayimhelping3978 5 жыл бұрын
still waiting for Fuck This IOT Shit This Shit Is Shit to drop
@aaronhaslett7556
@aaronhaslett7556 5 жыл бұрын
Hilarious but incredibly disappointing in the end... No clear message other than "stop acting like spergs", no elaboration or examples for why connecting ML systems to the net is bad, and his lesson is that everyone should change their behaviour by pure force of will. No discussion of profit motives or how to change systems/law. Unbelievably talented guy which is why the letdown was so huge; he could provide real leadership.
@kingsleyt8553
@kingsleyt8553 5 жыл бұрын
...shit.
@garthwhitacre3424
@garthwhitacre3424 5 жыл бұрын
Meh. Only idiots think technology is neutral - technology is a hammer. Hammer a nail...hammer a finger.
@jonathanccast
@jonathanccast 5 жыл бұрын
OK, not value neutral, so values have to be imposed: but whose values? No consideration. This just adds up to the same argument for censorship and central control and forcing everyone to go along with a system that you decided was 'just', that they are not *at all* convinced by, that dominates the rest of what SV is doing. You might want to take some self-reflection and consider whether using computers to impose *your* values from above is really moral or not.
@lordcirth
@lordcirth 5 жыл бұрын
Your belief that people's values should not be imposed on others is itself a value that you wish to impose upon the world. I hold similar values. Currently computers and their software are being used with no thought-out values whatsoever, or with values of pure profit for their creators. If we want computers to be used to resist censorship and oppression, then we need to make that happen.
@DimitarTomovEU
@DimitarTomovEU 5 жыл бұрын
12:40 second slide was poor taste because higher education is overrated and overvalued. The skill gap is in big part due to Academia detachment from the real world aka business Most of the rest was okay, but his delivery was indeed too artistic. Still, great effort, good underlying idea
@daveyfaherty6557
@daveyfaherty6557 5 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I think academia can fail more when it tries to attach to business - the lifecycles and goals of each institution is very different. "Spinout" startups are a nice idea though. I think building a startup might be more overrated and overvalued than higher education - most startups are unimaginitive failures, from what I've seen first-hand anyway. Trying to make technology fit the goal of chasing rounds of investment is backwards thinking.
@minntc
@minntc 5 жыл бұрын
Peter, why are you afraid to use your own name on KZbin?
@judsonwilson635
@judsonwilson635 5 жыл бұрын
CS education will pay for itself quickly, unless you do it wrong.
@nickg9215
@nickg9215 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent talk!
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