I'm glad I found this vid. As an international fan, it puts a lot into perspective. My first Chinese BL adaptation was Guardian and while it wasn't perfect, there's no denying the chemistry between the main leads. The plot might have dragged in some parts, and the sets and effects were rather gimmicky, but as far as their storyline was concerned, the actors, writers and directors were successful. I just finished The Untamed/CQL, knowing in advance that it was going to be censored, but I was still blown away by how the crew managed to work around the censorship issue and still portray a love story(they can keep calling it bromance all they want, it's a love story!). I think what helped, apart from XZ and WYB's amazing chemistry and powerful acting, is having the other characters canonically and consistently acknowledge their relationship and how much they meant to each other. And all of the actors seemed to understand their characters because even aside from the main pair, there were so many side pairings that had me raising a brow. Seriously with the exception of Wen Ning, Jin Zixuan and Jiang Cheng, all of the male characters had noticeably questionable chemistry with other male characters. I'm really glad that they didn't force the Wen Qing/Wuxian thing. It felt like she had feelings for him but it was fine once it remained one-sided. If he'd reciprocated, that would've thrown off his entire relationship with Lan Zhan. Thank goodness the fans rose and made their voices heard.
@caseyng24185 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah, i remember that the untamed dir received juggernaut backlash from MDZS fandom back then bc he wanna to improvise the plot making it heterosexual pairing wenqing/wuxian due to ban of lgbt in china. I almost dropped the untamed due to the ridiculous pairing. Luckily they listened to fans and made a right u turn. Kudos to the dir.
@lfixzwalker63085 жыл бұрын
Sometime I wonder how it will go if the guardian main pairing play the main couple role in the untamed..hmmm
@adychhangte55685 жыл бұрын
Casey Ng i suggest you to watch 'Addicted' (if you haven't watch it yet) i promise you will not regret.
@abbymelcoffee18135 жыл бұрын
I cant agree more. The other side pairings in Untamed was never 'official' in the book either, but due to the plot and hinted chemistry, there are a lot fanfiction on those.
@jraise27605 жыл бұрын
Agree, though I would have paired WX with Shije, hahahaha I don't know why but I think even Madam Yu had times where she thought Wei had feelings towards his sister. This is hinted on during the hunting activity by peacock's mother. WQ started to fall when Wei cared so much for her brother, it was clear she harboured feelings for Wei and am glad at stopped in her mind.
"The scene where he (WangYibo) went to Qishan makes you want to kneel down and call him daddy" DAMN U GIRL I AGREE
@teresialeonardi5 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Msystique5 жыл бұрын
never saw a truer comment
@ChthonicRemains5 жыл бұрын
I haven't watched Guardian yet, but there are ample reasons why The Untamed became such a huge hit and resonated with so many fans around the world compared to other BL adapted dramas: 1) The chemistry between the two male leads is simply outstanding. Xiao Zhan and Wang Yibo just seem to feed off of each other's energy and they're very natural around one another. 2) The characters in the show felt three dimensional as a result of strong character arcs. I laud the writers for giving equal attention to the development of other characters instead of solely focusing on Lan Wangji and Wei Wuxian. 3) Character relationships were extremely well done. This is an element I felt The Untamed particularly excelled in. I love that the relationship between Wei Wuxian and Lan Wangji, though central to the story, was surrounded by other important relationships. Namely the relationships between Wei Wuxian and Jiang Cheng, Lan Xichen and Jin Guangyao, Wei Wuxian and Jiang Yanli, and the Yi City Arc triangle between Song Lan, Xiao Xingchen, and Xue Yang. 4) The soundtrack is composed in a way that each track fits the ambience of any given scene so perfectly. If anyone wants an example, the soundtrack is available on Spotify! 5) The cinematography is absolutely breathtaking, especially when basking in the sceneries of the Cloud Recesses and Lotus Pier. 6) The show did its best to respect the source material. Like the uploader mentioned, The Untamed was largely faithful to the novel and IMO, even improvised some scenes that elevated elements of the story. 7) Speaking of elevating elements of the story, my favorite aspect of the show is its portrayal of Wangxian. Because of Chinese censorship of homosexual content, it's understandable that their romance couldn't be made explicit. Ironically, however, it's precisely the censorship that made Lan Wangji and Wei Wuxian's love feel wholesome and powerful. It's the highest form of love that can only exist in an ideal world.
@belive55465 жыл бұрын
Must watch Guardian, especially Fan Made !
@AJAAlquie215 жыл бұрын
@@belive5546 as a fan of the novel, watching the live action Guardian was like poking knives at your own heart..... "What happen to the story that i loved? Why is the story like this? Fuck censorship!" those were my thoughts for the whole duriation of the drama.... My only saving grace was that the main couple was sooo good in acting, has good chemistry & handsome faces I appreciate the good acting but bad script & storyline ruined this Guardian adaptation
@belive55465 жыл бұрын
@@AJAAlquie21 I'm not a fan. Just click open when youtube pop up the video. Yap, can feel the flow and the chemistry within the main couple. Really love them. BTW, I couldn't watch all the drama, always drag or just focus on Fan Made . First time motivated me to read the BL Novel. Love the story.
@umaridamchu71645 жыл бұрын
ChthonicRemains you have to watch guardian, you will love it
@sangla21695 жыл бұрын
Well said.. the Untamed is the ultimate b.l story, the purest form.of love shown between lanzhan.and Wei Ying...🥰🥰❤️❤️❤️ Couldn't have asked for anything more or anyone else playing their role.. the other characters also played their part very well.. it was a complete package 👍🏻👍🏻
Hahaha, I love this. Especially the "Xiao Zhan, he doesn't need to do anything because he's too ****ing handsome". (So true!!) Also, the "hot guys, hot guys, hot guys" is also true.
就說了是耽美耽美耽美了,你TM加個毛女主(翻桌 給今年的陳爹一個love love love愛你,然後繼續給去年鎮魂編劇寄刀片 最後說一句: 溫情馬上要被措骨揚灰了可喜可賀!
@顾雨-l8n5 жыл бұрын
建议用孟情不是温情•ᴗ•温情是好姐姐而她孟情不配
@emilieshing33015 жыл бұрын
顾雨 认同,温情姐姐是淑芬心里的白月光,孟情就算了吧,还是希望她在剧里早点go die
@jingwang60265 жыл бұрын
只要你讨厌孟情,我们就是异父异母的亲兄弟姐妹!
@kukuandkookie5 жыл бұрын
Yes, so glad to see English subs on here! Lots of great points made, and I love your examples of good bl (Chen Qing Ling, Zhen Hun, and S.C.I have grown into some of my favourite shows). ♥️ I’m really glad The Untamed went the way it did and that they listened to the fans by getting rid of the female lead. Everyone expected it to be terrible, but I’m glad it ended up proving us wrong. And now we have an amazing drama that sometimes feels even gayer than the original novel haha. The actors also all have such great chemistry; Xiao Zhan and Wang Yibo especially, and it really brings me back to the good ol’ days when I got to see Zhu Yilong and Bai Yu together also having good chemistry. ^^
@syllc.2095 жыл бұрын
Hahaha, The Untamed IS gayer! I also love that there's no mention of any 'gay jokes' because it made the story more wholesome and true.
wow, i agree with this video so much. esp with "BL can never be popular just by acting gay." this one that many actors don't understand. just showing good acting and having good chemistry with co-lead will made it better. kudo for mdzs stan who fought for wwx-lwj, now we have exceed expectation of CQL
Shen Wei really does look like he came straight out of the book, Yunlan as well.
@傲嬌-k7g5 жыл бұрын
就知道一定有鎮魂😂😂 鎮魂的編劇是每個人心中的痛😭😭😭
@夏雨時-b1g5 жыл бұрын
😢😢😢
@huh56365 жыл бұрын
鎮魂!我的意難平!
@傲嬌-k7g5 жыл бұрын
Katie Ho 沒錯😤😤
@cathys23075 жыл бұрын
shit ending
@braved81635 жыл бұрын
最喜欢的三件事:看男人搞男人
@yinwe39285 жыл бұрын
还少了个字帅!
@doushitekimi015 жыл бұрын
帅哥搞帅哥
@karanoe53235 жыл бұрын
三件事:看男人、搞男人、看男人搞男人(選我正解
@沈清-t5p5 жыл бұрын
Kara Noe 应该是 看帅哥 搞帅哥 看帅哥搞帅哥
@MicahMilotic5 жыл бұрын
@@karanoe5323 道友精闢!
@flora93795 жыл бұрын
说的一点都不错!继续期待陈情令,只求不烂尾!
@graceWYQ5 жыл бұрын
Flora 肯定不是原著结尾,看剧情介绍已经说了。非常不明白为啥要改结尾,呵呵。
@lusy29955 жыл бұрын
总不能跟原著一样天天吧?确定那样能拍出来?
@多么哇塞的姑娘5 жыл бұрын
@@graceWYQ 呵你妹,你知不知道什么叫广电啊小妹妹
@siyuwoaini5 жыл бұрын
忘羡最后真的分道扬镳了吗😭😓
@graceWYQ5 жыл бұрын
多么哇塞的姑娘 呵呵,广电又背锅了。
@zyt8495 жыл бұрын
陳情令真的是劇改不讓人失望的主角都選的超好的!幾乎全員喜歡❤️陳總真的太棒了👏
@avidreaderlvl01595 жыл бұрын
Say 👏 it 👏 louder 👏 girl!!!!!! Just because we love danmei doesn't mean you can shove us some random dude and dude to act +18 with some cheesy shameful lines eewww 🤦♀️ and i don't ship the actors just the characters (cause they're canon lol) overall i'm just totally agree with all your points 👏👏👏
Guardian is amazing and Zhu Yilong and Bai Yu rocked the chemistry without a single hug. Their eyes does all the talking. Seriously a must watch for everyone. Personally I like it more than Untamed.
@kireina97624 жыл бұрын
Me too Untamed better with storyline But no one can beat how much misery shenwei love How much love he have for zhao yunlan 10.000 years I cant imagine it 😭 I watch untamed first btw But i like guardian more
@smn44814 жыл бұрын
@@kireina9762 exactly
@itachischiffer40565 жыл бұрын
u go girl. The world needs to understand that we fujoshis dont need that 'kiss and hold hand' cheesy type of romance. All we need is chemistry and those eye contacts. I dont know about yall but for me, bl with good chemistry is far more better than bl with explicit content cuz it portrays love in a really innocent light unlike explicit ones which have a lot of lust.
@prithikaanbu70205 жыл бұрын
I couldn't agree with you more
@1wingedangel5975 жыл бұрын
Bang Bangtan spot on
@hadijarajabu30315 жыл бұрын
By the way, what is the meaning of fujoshi???
@itachischiffer40565 жыл бұрын
@@hadijarajabu3031 bl lover
@GengAlma974 жыл бұрын
This comment really highlight the differences between asian bl and western bl
6:16 - 6:29 Hahahaha de best 13 seconds of the video!!!! I can't stop laughing!!
@okitasouji31945 жыл бұрын
The laugh is just creepily remarkable. Lol gave me fujoshi goosebumps.
@meowswirlgacha47495 жыл бұрын
if i watch the untamed before knowing about the original, i would still suspect there's a love between the 2 male leads. The 'cencorship' honestly makes the love feels even more powerful. The highest form of love. Pure love.
@tahaminarahman75895 жыл бұрын
6:18.. that's the scene I look forward too girl.. 7:35 Hot guys... Hot guys.. Hot guys... 8:00 Shen Wei really looks like he came out from the book... 8:50 This white robe of Daddy Lan Zhan is my favorite too.. 8:54 you said the universal truth girl.. Too fucking handsome...
@aaa1978620025 жыл бұрын
鎮魂選角真的是好到不能再好
@ceci_lxx5 жыл бұрын
赶紧来赞,嘻嘻嘻,真的觉得镇魂应该重新补拍,陈情令也不错到,主角真的是帅,没得可挑
@hinkyt255 жыл бұрын
鎮魂的確有很大進步空間!再拍我也會去看!實在忘不了鎮魂那魔改的劇本和那奇怪魔性的服化道!
@張麗端-e5n4 жыл бұрын
Xiao Zhan is like an ethereal immortal. His beauty is just unbelievable, so surreal!
@elainet7125 жыл бұрын
陈情令拍的很好!!超好看!!一定要安利一下!!
@kurousagi62785 жыл бұрын
1. Guardian is my first chinese bromance drama i ever watched. And until now the ending little iritating for me.(bc they should have happy ending) 2. S.C.I mystery is good series but sadly they change some character's gender. But lucky the chemistry between Dr. Zhan and bai sir was amazing and we can see them kiss (although it's just CPR but who cares as long as their lips meet i still count that as kiss). 3. Untamed was just perfect
@jansakurai83945 жыл бұрын
kuro usagi hi!! About Guardians drama, what ep do their meet lip? Can u tell what ep please
@kurousagi62785 жыл бұрын
@@jansakurai8394 the one whom had kiss scene is S.C.I special mystery case not guardian
PREACH Xiao Zhan is the prefect reincarnation of wwx, whenever he smiles my heart melts TT, his demeanor is exactly wwx from the book At first I wasn't sure abt casting Wang Yibo but now I'm eating my own words, he was adorable and beautiful as lwj, they have such great chemistry too Also Jiang Cheng is daddy, Wang Zhuo Cheng did a great job portraying his anger issues jahskjahfjahsak everyone in the Untamed was beautiful, I'm really gonna bow down to the casting directors for casting these hot guys
@SkyblueHippie5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for providing English subtitle for this video. Totally agree with you on the female lead in the bl adaptation drama. I'd rather have more Shijie's scenes than Wen Qing's because Wen Qing's appearance at the early episodes didn't add anything meaningful to the story. And I love Wen Qing character in the novel, she's a badass genius doctor. Too bad, the actress in CQL didn't do justice to her character. They should've chosen an actress with strong personality.
@gwenethdaniellebacante27205 жыл бұрын
why is that?
@SkyblueHippie5 жыл бұрын
@@gwenethdaniellebacante2720 just watch the anime and you'll understand what I mean. At least it's a closer interpretation to the novel.
@AJAAlquie215 жыл бұрын
Shijie was more badass than WQ in the drama ! That acting was sooo OOC for WQ character, i would not recognize her as WQ if she was not WN's sister. I was not even sad when she died. Such a letdown 😔😔😔. On a happier note, I never thought i could love shijie more but Xuan Lu proved me wrong. Her death was more devastating for me that i start to tear up everytime i watch a scene of her😭😭😭😭😭.
@SkyblueHippie5 жыл бұрын
@@AJAAlquie21 I hear ya! I cried when Shijie died. It was soooo devastating! I totally could relate to the yunmeng boys on that. Xuan Lu's acting surprised me even since the scene where JYL confronted WY at Qinghe when he was angry at LZ becuz he thought LZ told her abt the practise of demonic cultivation. That's what a big sister must do. And then when she fiercely defended WY in front of Jin Zixun at hunting competition in Lanling. As opposed to the other female actress who'd successfully made WQ look like a deflated balloon (while she was supposed to have a strong, no-nonsense personality and smart with jabs). And yes, I didn't feel the emotion when she sacrified herself (Yubin's acting is more convincing). With how close her face was when WQ said goodbye to WY, I was constantly worried she would end up kissing him! 😂 (THANK GOD she didn't).
@7Mushrooms75 жыл бұрын
It seems like they deleted all the scenes with Wen Qing that were going to be romantic with Wei Wuxian (which I'm very glad) but didn't delete many of the other irrelevant scenes she was in. Most of her presence seemed like filler and not relevant... she was always there whenever Wei Wuxian was on screen even if not doing nothing. I know she's a good person, but I was annoyed that she kept showing up despite not adding anything relevant after the 1 or 2 episodes she served her purpose. (sorry for the rant lol)
@ccvlog70285 жыл бұрын
只希望陳情令最後可以一起浪羈江湖(;д;)
@wanniii41525 жыл бұрын
This video is so accurate on what I was feeling when the rumor spreads about The Untamed changing into a BG.