Using An Integrated Amp For Your Desktop.

[@0robbi0]

B sounds more fluid and real.

[@RanTausi]

Both are nice , but I’ll take the Pioneer 😊

[@skeezer180]

Love your Chanel so interesting please keep on going

[@minnesotasteve]

I’ve been using an integrated amp and speakers for about 20 years. Use an external sound card from creative as a dac. It’s awesome!

[@davidrubert1536]

I'm a Pioneer enthusiast and own several of the brand's integrateds from various eras. The A209R is a humble and underrated amp. But it's actually sweet as honey and has more than enough distortion-free output power. I own two of these and to name a few flaws, they both get quite hot. Keep on punching !! Cheers.

[@ianyates7742]

It’s the pioneer for me every time it’s lasted all this time and should go on for a long time to come😎👍

[@gilpena9591]

Another excellent video!

[@user-thegoods71]

Always loved Pioneer

[@paulrb894]

Pioneer sounded warmer

[@chrisnunya7171]

You know where I stand, I'm Pioneer thru & thru! 💯%

[@MrSlipstreem]

I'm leaning that way nowadays on the secondhand market. They've made a few gems of "affordable" hi-fi cassette decks over the years including some of their models right up to the late 90s. I've just picked up a fully serviced CT-S450S for £80 delivered. That gives me Dolby S (which is mindblowingly good!), Super Auto BLE automatic tape calibration (also excellent), and their FLEX system that automatically compensates for lack of high frequencies on playback due to azimuth misalignment on the recording deck. I know cassettes are fundamentally pointless nowadays, but it's still nice to finally own something I always wanted but couldn't afford new at the time.

[@MrSlipstreem]

Dolby S was the biggest pull for me. It's like Dolby C on steroids but with vastly reduced potential for tracking errors from one deck to another. This is my third Dolby S deck and they all play back each other's recordings accurately. Like Dolby C, it's specifically designed from the ground up to combat the effects of tape saturation associated mostly with Type I tapes, so even a cheap TDK FE tape produces very similar results to an expensive Type IV tape and still has plenty of output up to 18kHz. Not bad considering this is only a 2-head deck. I'm old enough to no longer be able to hear above 15kHz anyway, so it still sounds excellent to my ears.

[@MegaBrownbanana]

Bear in mind these old amps uses a hell of a lot more power than a little class D amp, if you work from home or do a lot of gaming that could add up in electricity.

[@MOON_BOYS]

It's just a heater that also makes sound...

[@steven2809]

SMSL sounded slightly veiled in comparison... Pioneer quality.... 👍

[@akersquarteracre8002]

"Outside the box" thinking. I like it. There are some very nice older Marantz Slimline receivers out there for very little money. I'd rather spend $150-$250 US for a well-regarded, well-equipped, great sounding used Integrated than the cheap class D amps that are available new. Nothing wrong with class D, not knocking them at all, they have their place for sure especially if your desktop space is limited. But if music is a priority and the space permits, why not think "outside the box?" Great vid, I enjoyed this one.

[@MisterYeko]

Its also a good way use for many equiptments including their PC or maybe even for TV (with ADC converter dongle). But to me, a bookshelf receiver is a good way to use for PC. sure they're not like any big Receivers but for smaller convienent, its decent. And important thing that most young people dont know. NEVER EVER in Phono inputs, this is intended for Turntable requiring Phono if they dont have built in Phono or doesnt like the built in Preamp. plugging their PC in Phono inputs can cause louder bass and full distortion. a good way to plug in are Tuner, Tape or even CD. Which they are just normally Line In/AUX but labeled based on equipments. For Tape Outputs, i think its actually a cool idea to digitize their Vinyl, Cassette or even on PC playing on YT or Streaming (no grey zone intented). If you probably own a USB Audio Interface, that should be practical for any use for this Receiver.

[@Niels133]

There is a small difference. Always nice that you can have 4 speakers hang on to your amp and have more inputs.

[@alanjipy55]

I have a soft spot for Pioneer. I'm surprised it's not compatible with banana plugs. I have an A-400 from about 1990.

[@MrSlipstreem]

Annoyingly, there are a number of different standards that all classify as "banana". My Denon threw me with its plugged (ie, bunged up) banana sockets at first until I realised they were removable plugs, but I really struggled to get even one of them out without butchering the socket. It was a brand new amplifier at the time, so I certainly didn't want to risk doing that! I'd already ordered then cancelled an order for a nice set of banana plugs by this point. As my amp never gets moved anyway, I settled for the binding post option in the end and haven't had a problem with it in nearly 4 years.

[@alanjipy55]

@@MrSlipstreem Yeah. I dont remember removing anything with the Pioneer Amps. It's different now. Nothing wrong with wired if you'er not removing them. It's a pain when you do. But you wont lose anything in the path signal.

[@mbvx7]

I am thinking of doing this. I have a set of Sonus faber Lumina II's laying around without a home. Might try them as desktop speakers. maybe go with a Rotel A8 or Wiim amp or NAD 3020 etc. something small.

[@alwayspushing2031]

May as well buy a used mid grade for this el' cheapie'

[@MrSlipstreem]

It seems perfectly sensible to me if you have the space, but there are far cheaper ways of doing it. When I upgraded my main surround amp to a Denon Dolby Atmos 7.1 system, the old JVC RX-E5 Dolby Pro Logic II 5.1 amp went into the bedroom where the PC lives. The PC has digital optical out and the amp has digital optical in, so there's no need for an external DAC. The JVC is a slimline amp (it's only 7cm tall) with no cooling grills in the top, so I can reclaim the space by standing something else on top of it. If you went this route from scratch, the total cost would be around £50 plus speakers. Not bad considering it was a £300 amp in 2004 which would be over £500 in today's money.

[@jameschan2404]

Use a Billie Amp it is small and has phono stage.

[@jhoveahifihifi5845]

I'll stick with the pioneer, for me the pioneer sounds better. Good videos, greetings from Spain.

[@kevinsheppard6085]

Pioneer wins for me by quite a bit. I have some JBL professional powered monitors on my desk top at the moment, however I have a cambridge audio one, that i am gonna dig out the loft and play these through some Wharfdale 220's and see how i get on with it after watching this. The cambridge audio one is a half width unit, it plays CD's and and has a dac, so gonna be doing me own sound test soon, lol