Using lead instead of body filler

Lead flexes well with the metal without cracking…. if you are slightly low on an edge or body line, lead provides a better edge that body filler…..
We use especially in classic car restorations lead, it is more traditional and should last longer.

[@richardcooper2237]

You are a real pro. That is exactly the way I did it sixty years ago. All the videos I've seen on KZbin on leading have no idea what they are doing you are a pro.

[@dionel1962]

Love it, no music, no talking, just get to business...Awesome video...

[@jojomojo9439]

Sometimes I get tired of people just talking too much. If I can watch the process at this rate I learn so much faster. Great video!

[@ggordon4127]

Don’t think anyone could it better than this guy.

[@buckhorncortez]

I do. Gene Winfield. But, Gene is 95 years old and has been doing it a lot longer.

[@brucecowgill7672]

Great work but when you broke out the DA I feared for your health.

[@c0r5e]

How do u make sure lead does not poison you while working?

[@fortitudevalance8424]

I do this too but use anodised zinc which works a treat. Far superior to filler but hard to do with more modern vehicles.

[@andrewmcallister9250]

True craftsman ! But someone has been misled ! 🤣🤣

[@fredyorke9952]

At last someone who knows how to lead load ,no edges bigger block dread naught blade and tallow fat thats old style loading not all this tinning up then washing it down well done

[@rpkietur]

its really skillful when you do it on a side panel. that takes controlled heat and talent.

[@petermccuskey1832]

The original way I learned in the 60s as a kid

[@68orangecrate26]

Craftsmanship… Through and through…

[@jasonheng5568]

15 years into the future, the next lad with a MIG Welder will snap when he works with the soldered panel. The sparkles and dingle berries will remind him that his end is near😝😝😝😝😝

[@tomthompson7400]

Nice to see an old hand at work , what grade of paper did you use on the da.

[@Mikefngarage]

just removed a whole lot of lead that was cracked. I would never go through that work. prefer good quality plastic it lasts longer and is much easier.

[@sicknick5882]

Also a lot safer to use

[@leightoncollins3704]

If you know how to use lead it will last slot longer than plastic, it also won't pop or crack if the panel gets damaged after the repair, but yea in most cases body filler is easier to do well but lead will be better if you are good

[@shanek6582]

Is bondo considered “plastic” or is there some new products out there that you are talking about? Thanks

[@truthful3777]

Good idea.

[@davidreames7032]

Glad to see lead repair. But why the speed show?

[@steelbodywork8806]

it would take too long

[@orangemanok5800]

Strong coffee!

[@tumashedrick]

I plan on using this process to seal up work I did installing a sun roof I have a couple of questions what is the stuff you brushes on in the begining and where can I buy it from I bought five pounds of pure lead already I have a torch and the proper PPE and clothing just need some tips and pointers

[@Cars_of_yesteryear]

`great vid mate

[@rajivsewnandan4865]

What's gas is used, Acetylene or LPG?

[@Henrique-rd4em]

Sou reparador no Brasil,uso estanho tbm,mas qual o nome do produto que vc passa com o pincel e forma a camada fina,onde depois é só derreter o estanho? Grat.Henrique.

[@KG72]

That's called flux, it's enhancing the bonding of the led/tin filler.

[@butchmuir447]

Holy shit that guy is fast😂

[@quintonharvey1501]

What are you useing to spread it out in your hand

[@georgealmeida7382]

If you are a true bodyman there is no filler of any kind ..you get straight or so close to it that nothing more than a few coats of primer will fill in the lows.

[@billd.akaevylaz754]

If you want to go to that effort with a late model F150 tailgate, go for it. ROFLMAO

[@sicknick5882]

Bullshit if you want something perfect you use filler

[@georgealmeida7382]

@@sicknick5882 no not in my crowd. ..perfect is getting it so straight you don't need filler but the welding skills needed to do accomplish this are way beyond your comprehension I'm sure .lol. and cost is not an issue with what we do either..I'm willing to bet we have spent more money and time in the door jambs of a classic car than you have on the entire body of one .we ship hotrods all over the world including Japan ..anything from ratrods to Harleys and even planes and helicopters being we have two ourselves...so ya apples and oranges that's the difference

[@billd.akaevylaz754]

@@georgealmeida7382 LMAO nobody cares dude.

[@georgealmeida7382]

@@billd.akaevylaz754 nobody that drives junk cares like you but the rest do

[@zed9227]

Does the flux eat away at the metal over time?

[@jacobaguilar6756]

No sir!

[@truthful3777]

You can clean the flux away....What is the problem?

[@SamodelLife]

👍

[@robertbelanger5770]

What % is the lead tin mix ? 30 tin 70 lead or the other way around.

[@jacobaguilar6756]

You got it right

[@KG72]

That's the only way to do body filler. It's not that easy to do it as it looks in the video. For classic cars restorations it's a shame to use epoxy. That's for average Joe.

[@georgealmeida7382]

filler of any kind is average Joe lol

[@KG72]

@@georgealmeida7382 No. If you have pitting you put led filling. That's better than cutting and welding a new piece.

[@georgealmeida7382]

When I weld in a piece it requires zero filler other than primer at most and heats the metal less than you do using lead so your actually making the surrounding area worse by using lead.. Also you can control the reaction of steel with heat and also how quickly you cool it after it's been heated almost anything you can fill with lead I can make perfect with nothing other than proper heat andits placement and the rate of cooling ..iin other words a torch a water hose and a hammer ...will do a lot of bodywork in the right hands . Last time I checked new metal and zero filler was better than pitted metal filled with lead so I beg to differ but if your not skilled enough to weld in pieces and without having to use filler afterwards then ya go ahead and use lead .Ive never left any distortion that could not be flattened with nothing more than couple coats of primer but manipulators of metal with the skills needed to do do that are few and far between these days. so far in the last 40 yrs there hasn't been any sheet metal part Could not duplicate by hand the same or even better than the original. There are bodymen ,tinsmiths ,blacksmiths, forgers and fabricators( me)..all others will have to either replace it or fill it.

[@professordrmao6321]

​@@georgealmeida7382yeah no.want a new panel or part of a panel fabricated, then pay repair or fab prices. Otherwise you're getting the ol pulled mostly out with filler

[@alvarobenitezvazquez8512]

What did you use to fuse the lead

[@nohtgonahappen7314]

It's called leading butter. but if he is not using lead free solder I wouldn't sand on it, only file.

[@andrewreece3861]

But lead IS body filler.

[@southcarolina6537]

If its not the original panel primed and painted on the surface filler is filler use bondo much safer theres a reason lead filler use died out brother

[@horvathattila377]

There was a good reason why we, car repair men stopped using the lead in auto repair, poisonous and not healthy. I just hope you had a high quality mask and safety glasses. It's not about technic what you use. Anyway, lead repair is not effective and under it easy to have corrosion what you won't see. Again, the industry evolved a lot for the better and the best side. At lest, in Europe. :)

[@blakegriplingph]

In fairness, polyurethane body filler is toxic but lead compounds do take the cake for its deleterious health effects.

[@buckhorncortez]

Leadless body solder is available. That's what I use. The difference is in the amount of time you have to work the solder (push it around with the paddle). The leadless solder has a much narrower temperature range where it stays malleable compared to lead solder, so you have to modify your technique.

[@truthful3777]

Europe cars are worst in the world. They won't last......you see many abandon by the wayside even young age of 10 years. However you can see Japanese car soldier On way past 30 to 40 years...

[@kip8790]

What complete nonsense.

[@bernardcox9307]

@@truthful3777 Is it the cars? Or is it the weather.

[@fineartonfire_5327]

Too bad we can’t see anything

[@monteharwell6221]

Well that sucked

[@fuzzzeballs]

definite reason to skin a mole

[@scottdenoncour6418]

Real healthy for you ! Not

[@kenthompson6539]

We did away with leaded petrol and now you are releasing it into the air again.

[@brucecapron9344]

You are a fool. This is not tetraethal led. He is not appropriately protecting himself, but this has nothing to do with you incredibly misinformed thought of knowledge.

[@brucecapron9344]

What are the dangers of lead and it what forms, do you have any idea? 1) Some one shoots u with a rifle or pistol, thats lead poisoning. Statisticaly your greatest risk. 2) your a led worker creating shielding for scientific research and medical exrays( guess you think we're all pos even though that early saved your ass). For lead workers there are rules for time on task and consumption of calcium products. This mans exposure is low unless he does that exclusively 8 hours a day. Yet his risk is diminished because he is not using lead at a fermenting point. He is using lead tin aloy of a 40 60 or 50 50 variety. The dropping point is much lower and the flux is a marginally greater hazard. He is doing little to care for himself and he is working hard but not organized. He is posing no danger to you. In your home lead is included in beneficial ways. In modern plumbing though, the joining of copper pipes with lead tin soldier has been replaces with silver tin alloys. 40 years ago, thee heat flo characteristics of this material were different and at first negative, but within a week these characteristics were positive. The elephant in the room over lead, is lead oxide. Lead oxides are hell on human health systems. Primarily neurological. Prior to WW2, many paints were mixed on site. Various oils were used as the still are used even in water based paint. Commonly used was Turps (turpentine) linseed oil and tongue oil. To make paint, the painter would measure in whiting. Best for the buck was lead oxide. You could use titanium oxide back then..it was not available. You could use gyp and other materials. However lead was best. People in Holmes with these superior paint products who did not maintain their property, had their babies eating paint flakes. Shebang instant intellectually. Disabled child. B4 you run your fucking mouth again, study learn and know what the fuck your talking about. Maybe ask 3 or 4 intelligent, industrially minded elders. I don't know where you want to go. If it's engineering, industry or history shut the fuck up and study hard, we all did. If your a political blowhard idiot, go sit on a beaver stump, no matter how hard the wind blows, you'll be fine.

[@janeblogs324]

This is also new, it is not the original pure lead solder you used to buy 20 years ago

[@brucecapron9344]

@@janeblogs324 No! 20 years ago was never pure lead, never. The alloys of 60/40 and 50/50 lead amalgams have a lower dropping point than lead, or either metal for that point. Fucking study a little industrial history. Near pure lead can be found in bullets, Lead wool for packing cast iron hub and spigot fittings and for flashing tile roofs, Akin are other amalgams and alloys like copper lead shhet for metal roofing. any and all your fear of lead is ignorance and kinda 'wish did not live on planet earth". we are given so many unique resources to exploit, explore and understand. study some science b 4 you listen to bullshit. odds are on u would not exist today save 4 xrays, radiation and Curry. shut the flap, read study, go read again and study....rinse and repeat/

[@buckhorncortez]

You can easily get leadless body solder. I use it quite a bit. BTW - you can't release lead into the air any more than you can release aluminum, steel, or any other metal. You're not really up on chemistry versus metallurgy, are you?