Using ND Filters with Strobes: Ep 212: Digital Photography 1 on 1: Adorama Photography TV

Using ND Filters with Strobes: Ep 212: Digital Photography 1 on 1: Adorama Photography TV

[@josephchan4198]

Mark is a great teacher and Adorama makes great videos. Thanks for giving back to the community.

[@blackcoff]

you know, i look forward to adoramaTV new video every time I log into youtube!!!

[@TheSmartWoodshop]

Mark, How do you focus with 9 stop filter? I use a 10 stop filter for ocean and water falls which give a very silky effect on the moving water with multiple minute exposure, but I have to set up the shot and focus before I put on the filter. I can see nothing through the filter. Thanks, Ron

[@DigitalRealPhoto]

That was very helpful Mark, thanks. Getting shallow depth of field in the studio will be great!

[@felicianofoto]

never thought of using it indoors with studio lights - thanks Mark!

[@EdwardBliffin]

i Love the way this girl poses, she always on point!

[@rockyraccoon]

This is my favorite episode of yours. Wonderful visualizations coupled with coherent descriptions. Thanks for putting these on, I'm a fan!

[@AymanFkhamis]

one of the best tutorials from one of the best photographers :) can i know how to calculate the stops down and how it effect the F no. ?

[@JorgeAraujo]

Great work Mark.....Awesome Tip!!!

[@is1dre]

Mark, awesome as always! Keep it up!

[@cadmiumpureland]

@tamim4ever What the light meter is trying to show u is that u need to set to a smaller aperture f/64 as the light gets stronger when u move closer to it. Of course Dslr lens don't have f64, so need to either use higher ISO, or move the light further, or set the light to lesser power.

[@Hemant_p]

its amazing video. really important and different approach of using ND filters. thanks a lot n keep posting more n more videos!

[@attilad66]

hey..i have a question..when you shot with the ND 9Stop filter..how your camera is going to focus??? isn`t that hard for the camera to focus? Cheers

[@happyhc]

I am wondering how focus was done when using a NDx400 filter. Will the camera still able to auto-focus? Or you pre-focus without ND filter and then put on the filter?

[@MrCoolAttitude]

Oh I shot all these in jpeg lol. Mark's the best presentator on adoramatv.

[@LikeOnATree]

Great video as usual Mark. I did notice one thing though, at 6:18 on the right side of the frame, you can see just a little of the model's shadow near the bottom of the wall. I'm curious, is that due to light falloff from the strobe being up high, and shooting down? Or, was there a grid attached to the strobe? Thanks very much!

[@KenCheng]

will there be a big difference in quality between a cheaper ND filter and a high end one?

[@AndrewYianne]

How were you able to get the "warm light" from your strobe in the indoor studio? Was your white balance set to cloudy, or was post-processing in Lightroom?

[@harryzma]

Awesome ! solution  this is very helpful Thanks Mark

[@cadmiumpureland]

@tamim4ever F/64 for flash means the flash output will be many stops brighter to light the subject since the ND filter is limiting the light reaching the camera's sensor by several stops.

[@tomwojmusic]

@tomwojmusic hmm actually thinking about it, is it because that's the speed at which the flash goes off? So any higher or lower shutter speed would make the flash and camera not go off at the same time?

[@essellar]

@tamim4ever A "stop" is a doubling or a halving of the light entering the camera. The f-number is the ratio of the lens's focal length to the diameter of the opening (aperture). The amount of light depends on the area of the opening, and the formula for the area of a circle is πr²; to double the area, you need to increase the diameter by a factor of √2 (or about 1.4). So the f-numbers going down would be 64→45→32→22→16→11→8→5.6→4→2.8. (The numbers are rounded values.)

[@MrDantric]

Also on a serious note: Can you do some tutorials on buying advice when it comes to strobes and light modifiers? I am a student from the UK so I have a budget of around £200 which I believe would be approx $300 I want to know which are the basics to buy and how I can use them and then how I can build up my set! Am I stuck to dedicate myself to 1 brand like with camera bodies!

[@tamimaflah]

@cadmiumpureland thank you, so glad you replied, but what is the f-stops "aperture" which is "bigger number the smaller aperture the less light" ?!

[@minkorrh]

I was going to ask the same question....if he's using a 9 stop ND filter you can't even see through that. I would say that's only practical with a variable ND no? (focus then twist to dark?)

[@tomwojmusic]

I'm new to photography so this might be a stupid question, but why can't you just up the shutter speed? When mark was outside he stated that his shutter speed was 160 odd to sync with the flash, why not just forget the nd filter and max the shutter speed?

[@Ryder_Studios]

What was the shutter speed when Mark lowered it to below sync speed? Those were awesome shots!

[@sourabhkshatriya]

Amazing mark...thanks

[@MrDantric]

I would love it if every episode was titled like this "Using ND Filters With Strobes: Ep 212: Digitial Photography 1 on 1: Adorama Photography TV" rather than how previous episodes are titled which are more like "Digital Photography 1 on 1: Ep 212: Using ND Filters with Strobes: Adorama Photography TV" Because it makes archiving and finding older episodes SOOO much easier =D

[@124moviesiwatch]

Canon 5D mkII Xsync speed is 1/200th. To those saying that 1/4,000 or 1/8,000th can't be used just try it. The strobe freezes the action not the shutter speed. Studio strobes have a very short flash duration in the range of 1/10,000th to 1/30,000th or less! Shutter speeds over 1/100th are irrelevant when using strobes during portraiture.

[@tragamoscas]

EXCELENTES RECOMENDACIONES !!!!

[@stseely1]

@TheSisterPrincess Some cameras are set for every 2 clicks is one stop or every 3 clicks is one stop. Another way of saying it is some will let you adjust the aperture in 1/2 stop increments or 1/3 stop increments, sometime this can be selected in the camera.If you dont know how your is setup you can check it by setting the camera to f4,if you have to turn the dial 2 times to get to f5.6 yours is setup for one turn of the dial is 1/2 stop.If you turn it 3 times to get to f5.6 i turn is 1/3 stop.

[@cadmiumpureland]

@tamim4ever For flash/strobe, full power will be indicated as 1 (brightess)on the display. 1/2 will be 1 stop less bright. 1/4 is a stop lesser than 1/2.......... But if you use a light meter, it will show you in terms of f-stops. Like for example, you meter closer to the strobe, it gives you F64; mete further away, it will gives u f32, because light is less bright as it travel further.

[@fotojimgijoe]

amigo exelente un saludo desde bogota colombia ,

[@riahmatic]

To be accurate, the main stops are 1 / 1.4 / 2 / 2.8 / 4 / 5.6 / 8 / 11 / 16 / 22 / 32. You multiply each stop by the square root of 2 to get the next stop.

[@agnibdas7582]

what about the picture quality wont this filter hamper the picture quality, compared to that coming directly from lens without using the filter???

[@forisnakiu]

@tamim4ever it`s simple, 9 stops less means starting down from f64, f32, f22, f16, f11, f8, f5,6, f4 to finally f2,8.

[@KrisZelvis]

Really nice video, thank you

[@spatss]

Really interesting info.

[@eugenedatsmee]

what about using in camera exposure compensation? probably 3 stops lower?

[@BernardoSeguraSilva]

auto focus works with such a low light entering the camera??

[@benders74]

That's crazy man...thanks

[@anandrulzs]

Hi Mark, just wanted to check regarding using an ND2 filter instead of a Lens Hood to block out light from the sides. All that I would need to do would be to set the exposure up by 1 stop (on Aperture or Shutter Priority) and it would be like using a lens hood to block the stray light from the sides. isn't it???? Would this work.

[@RafaleReviveMKII]

Is one increament/decreament of aperture equal 1 stop?

[@guidlines]

@tamim4ever Roughly, you do it like this - the square root (SQRT) of 2 is 1.4, SQRT of 4 is 2, SQRT of 8 is 2.8, SQRT of 16 is 4, SQRT of 32 is 5.6, SQRT of 64 is 8, SQRT of 128 is 11 etc. What you do is double the previous number & then get it's SQRT.

[@MichaelSchultzPersonal]

@tamim4ever The stops go like this: 1.4 / 1.8 / 2.8 / 3.2 / 4 / 5.6 / 8 / 11 / 16 / 22 / 32. Notice how f 5.6 is 2 x 2.8, f8 is 2 x f4. Half your f stop and that tells you what 2 f stops brighter is. You used to have to click these stops on your lenses in the film days.

[@loungekingfilms]

awesome!

[@VanjaMk1]

Aren't highlights of the face both in studio and outside a bit burned? Am I seeing correctly?

[@tamimaflah]

@tamim4ever thank you for this valuable explanation and for your time, I really appreciated .. :)

[@knuckleheadpits]

did you use AV mode?

[@cdbibay]

couldnt you achieve the same affect if you could sync the shutter to like 1/4000? or higher

[@matsas16193]

Can polarized filters do the same?

[@MichaelSchultzPersonal]

Bam. Fair call bro.

[@pjos111]

@tamim4ever Mark has a video explaining exposure this may help. Every three clicks of your dial will be 1 stop. e.g.: F16 then three clicks =F11 then three clicks = F8 then three clicks =F5.6 and so on.

[@soothingsoundvideos]

Mark gives you the middle finger at the end of the video. LOL.

[@tamimaflah]

@guidlines thank you, that's amazing .. :)

[@rick67hou]

Love the hints, but what I would like is a sample of what it WOULD have been like if you didn't use the tricks that you used. Sometimes watching that would be able to say, "Oh! THAT is what I did wrong!" moment.

[@tamimaflah]

sorry guys, I really got confused here, as far as I know about f-stop is that the bigger number the smaller aperture the less light, so how come F/64 is extremely bright ?! what's the difference between the f-stop shows in studio flash and speedlight and the aperture of the dslr ?!

[@sibiya2000]

Why you did not use the softbox outside?

[@nullality]

I can see the shadow on the right side... near her feet, great video though. Learned a lot!

[@djmaxnz]

@adoramaTV @tamim4ever can you also explain how to calculate "stops"

[@Cruz0e]

@tomwojmusic if you try double it 9 times... from 1/160th you get 1. 1/320 2, 1/640 3. 1/1280, 4. 1/2500 and what now? if your camera does only 1/4000th fastest? ... and maybe the ISO is too fast too.. some camera cant do 50 iso or 100 iso..only 200-1600 .... but even if you can make ur shutter fast enough (for exapmple if you use only 3 stop ND) still your light source (the sun) is "fix" you cannot move it around to get different angles, etc.

[@terenas1986]

you should watch the Digital Photography 1-on-1 episode that explains stops. Search for it, it's very good. :)

[@smatojanka]

Same question here. HOW?

[@andylandAMband]

what was shutter speed in studio??? at 2.8

[@tamimaflah]

"9 stops less, and 9 stops down from f/64 is 2.8" can you please explain further ?! is there a formula for that ?!

[@davirosa]

MARK, EU TE AMO!! MARK, I LOVE YOU!! HAHAHAHAHA!!

[@AndrewYianne]

I had a mini heart attack at 3:34 when Mark carelessly dropped his camera to his legs 0_0

[@wswill2]

why can't u just speed up the shutter? or is it already maxed out?

[@NewMoon57]

Your newest video on the Nikon camera is marked Private and cannot be played.

[@LeavittPhotoLacey]

@danapointtrainer probably not enough to matter. Joey L. uses cheapo ones and his stuff is amazing.

[@bwilliamblock]

good!

[@tamimaflah]

@hezzart got it .. :) thank you, I appreciate it ..

[@SentioSilvano]

he has the 70-200 f2.8

[@markshirley01]

Can you do this with Speedlights

[@mangomariel]

+mark shirley ofcourse

[@Pierluca72]

How about using High Speed Sync?

[@Bevieevans8]

Pierluca72 not if your flash doesn't have it!

[@RafaleReviveMKII]

@stseely1 Ah.....I see it now. Thanks for your explanation. It is pretty detail. ^^

[@82ngt]

Nikon D50 sync speed is 1/800,not 1/4000.

[@tamimaflah]

@thiemogamma thanks .. :)

[@SathishKrishnakumar]

useful

[@AgnostosGnostos]

The model is wearing sunglasses for a reason the flash is so bright that can damage her eyes.

[@tamimaflah]

@patliean1 thank you .. :)

[@tamimaflah]

@pjos111 thanks, I'll look for it ..

[@PatrickLino]

@tamim4ever Wikipedia ---> F-number

[@themusicclock]

I hate when I've finished a whole shoot and then realise it was shot in jpeg

[@riftsin]

good luck stacking 9 stops of nd filters and not losing your autofocus.

[@LiaoK]

learn what max sync speed is.

[@jasonsong86]

this girl is hot.

[@belleofga]

@djmaxnz checkout this guy: Fontanaknowledge- Photography Tutorial ( Aperture) Beyond the Basics

[@mucbeanz]

i think she's hot!!

[@harryzma]

Awesome ! solution  this is very helpful Thanks Mark