Using Science to MAXIMIZE the Mob Spawning Algorithm

[@NicoisLOST]

I'm aware that the audio is a bit messed up for some people! If it really bugs you, you can try other headphones as it does depend on them. Otherwise, I will work to fix it for future videos! Sorry about the mistake! Appreciate the comments.

[@Akotski-ys9rr]

No it doesn’t depend on the headphones because the auto captions are also messed up

[@azricon]

Jjjjjjjjj big fungus is Hot I love sexy big chungus

[@teresa7898]

😊

[@GreenJalapenjo]

It sounds a lot like a too aggressive noise gate.

[@General302Gaming]

@nicoisLOSt how are you getting mob cap to show what mod is it?

[@Mogswamp]

Came in skeptical I could learn anything after a dozen years of doing mob farms, but boy was I wrong. Super informative.

[@cohandora]

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[@tonytonychopper6017]

You should shout-out him then

[@michealwarren6681]

If you aren't educated in teaching, I suspect you might be, you're extremely well suited to it

[@spacexe123]

​@@tonytonychopper6017yeah you have in past given shout out to great creators And nico is definitely a addon for you @mogswamp

[@NicoisLOST]

Glad it was helpful :-]

[@kavinesh_the_legend]

This guy needs more audience and reach.

[@IdentifiantE.S]

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[@zactastic4k955]

Exactly

[@Black_Jack09]

One could says he’s lost

[@exalented]

He literally sounds like a villager

[@DestinyHawk]

I am now one of them

[@SRAZKVT]

as someone who worked on EOL, having it called "too perfect" really rings a bell. It was fun and all honestly, but it did make it so that nearly every farm we could do afterwards was just not as good. One of the reasons i stopped playing in new versions, and moved to older versions (1.7 and 1.8), making good farms was just not satisfactory anymore

[@Beefercow]

You reached the limit of the game and inspired so many with your work. Thanks for what your group did!

[@Overlyamplified]

I agree, I am trying to figure out ways to create farms in 1.0, I have gunpowder farm (~2 stacks/h) and gold ingot farm (~4stacks/h). It really is satisfaction to see that farm works with such a small amount of features.

[@savannahmavy7064]

Funny seeing you here Sarah :) /s /lh

[@randomthings8732]

you flowers of algernon'd your building.. damn.

[@SnoFitzroy]

I literally cannot imagine playing a version that old. I need my sweeping swords. None of that zero skill spam clicking lol

[@Realicestorm]

This is such a nice video, so detailed yet decently easy to understand. Well done Nico. You did an amazing job.

[@NicoisLOST]

Thanks. Glad it hit a good balance for you :-]

[@IdentifiantE.S]

@@NicoisLOSTYou’re a genius ! Thanks 😄

[@siggenpaapiggen1879]

We definately need more of these vidoes!

[@ahuman997]

​@@NicoisLOST00000000

[@s66s46]

easy to understand? the other half of the video is very badly explained

[@The3gg]

You've very nicely filled Gnembon's math-based approach to farming niche

[@LividImp]

There are always these "the most extreme farm" examples, but by the time you can do that type of thing you don't _really_ need any of it. Even gunpowder and bones have their useful limits. What I want to know is, "what is the most _overall efficient_ farm to build in the beginning of the game when even arrows are considered good loot and not yet thrown away. And when I say "overall efficient", what I mean is effort to build verses returns. Bonus if you manage to include overworld endermen spawning.

[@GewelReal]

4 towers ig

[@figloalds]

I really enjoy a basic chickenator, you get a lot of cooked chicken and feathers You can use the feathers to get emeralds/arrows and the chicken is a decent food source It does require a trip to the nether tho, because of the comparator Now in general the endermen farm in the end is great, put some enchanting tools nearby and you get yourself everything you can possibly need for matters of enchanting: Trivializes a lot of things

[@travcollier]

​​​@@figloaldsIanxofour's pack spawning drowned farm is ridiculous. Takes like 10 minutes to build and you're player killing something like 30 drowned per second. Yeah, it is mostly for copper, but provides plenty of XP. It can also be used as a mob switch. Personally though, I've been playing carpetSky "everything from nothing" again recently, and really enjoying designing farms to get materials. My guardian farm spawns 20+k/hr and is built with just wood and water.

[@rytre]

Yeah I agree with the person who says Ianxo farms as fast to build and still with making endgame or early game. Your problem sounds like it is you are incorrectly searching with "efficiency" when you should be searching for farms that are viable in early game. I see your problem: it's that efficient in the case of almost all farms is how MANY mobs it gets or the measurement of loot. What you want however is "efficiency" in terms of build-ability, and efficiency making something worth making that finds a single area between early game and endgame ability to have the value in making the farm with a reasonableness of the materials needed to make the farm. Example: think of the difference between the two XP farms-endermen XP farm versus Gold Zombified Pigmen XP farm Endermen XP farm takes early game blocks and can be build very early, and give an insane amount of xp for the time you made it in. You take the INSANE gold farms that maximize spawn rates and max out the xp intake, it is just overkill. I used this example because it is the pinnacle "endgame" farm since it takes hundred thousands of magma blocks (not easily accessible early game, or even in that amount without more farms). My recommendation: just search early game efficient farms when you are trying to find a farm to make, or watch ianxo4!

[@jarimandarijn6121]

There are 2 types of farms. XP farms and item farms, for xp farms the best would obviously be the one that grants most xp. For items though a farm can quickly approach practically infinite production (meaning it gives more of that item than you can use of that item), so I guess it mostly depends on what items you find most useful. Personally I think the farm that saved me the most time is an iron farm.

[@rendezvous_]

Wow, that's a lot of information. I had no clue that the roof on the tower general mob farm helped with spawning and thought it was there to reduce light levels. Perhaps you could provide a text outline of all these concepts for easier review. Great video, I'm going to have to watch it again to absorb all the information.

[@Jakobus31]

koment

[@dinamiteurdinamiteur2324]

Same, good to know.

[@nikkiofthevalley]

I mean, it's used for that as well, otherwise the mobs wouldn't spawn at all.

[@byLags]

Would you buy the text outline if it were on Patreon?

[@thegrimreader7981]

@@nikkiofthevalley for the roof to block light, it only has to be directly above the platforms, not extended by so many blocks

[@tero6889]

I love it when there are good graphs in a video and your graphs are amazing

[@artix4545]

you will be rich one day

[@TheMrPog]

I like the fact Nico is giving us enough details to be able to take this and turn it around and be able to make our own farms to fit our own needs instead of being like "oh heres my farm guys, it may or may not work for your needs"

[@jameskoomler3255]

This video and the one you did on iron farms have really helped a lot! The only thing I would like to see now is a video about raid spawns. Love the videos, keep up the good work man!

[@NicoisLOST]

There's endless topics, but it's one I do have an interest it looking into ;-)

[@melontusk2591]

I love information heavy videos like these, this was a real treat to watch. Thank you!

[@jacobhutchens9364]

I absolutely love how you go into depth on some of these obscure parts of spawning. For a later video, could you go into more detail on how witch/guardian farms differ from these since they aren't able to be expanded/moved

[@Tronas1111]

I was gonna say, I wish there was a video explaining exactly how spawns worked with solid blocks above farms, and the non opaque blocks built out around spawning platforms or roofs, and this really just came out just a day later. Cheers

[@nathanielcarlosruiz3397]

este es el unico video que e encontrado en todo google asi de completo y bien oredenado, llevo 2 años tratando de entender todo, muchas gracias

[@EmdyMC]

Here early because moderator perks :P Got to say I'm getting a lot of nostalgia to Gnembon's videos from this, been a while since he's uploaded but it seems like the torch has been passed to you. Great job as always Nico, really jam packed with info and definitely a good resource for the community.

[@gnembon]

Yeah, what the heck is going on with that guy. Is he even still alive?

[@nuggetplan]

@@gnembonI almost seriously replied saying you are a Mojang dev now before noticing your tag lol

[@GOAT_GOATERSON]

​@@nuggetplanwhat do you mean? That's the real gnembon, right?

[@Codee_]

@@nuggetplansame thing here haha

[@Codee_]

@@gnembonhey gnembon love your videos , I’ve been a fan for a long time, hope you are doing well !

[@ladyravendale1]

One of my favorite #SoME3 videos so far, it's both some awesome math and genuinely useful! I hope this gets one of the top spots

[@ThatGamerPilot]

What is some3?

[@ladyravendale1]

@@ThatGamerPilot Summer of Math Exposition 3. It’s the third year of an event hosted by 3Blue1Brown to encourage math related content, be it videos, articles, or anything else. At the end a few winners and honorable mentions of the best things produced are announced, as well as winning some prizes. I can’t post links, but just google “summer of math exposition” and you’ll find all the details.

[@impishlyit9780]

This was a SoME3 video?! And here I thought this was just some random Minecraft content, cool stuff.

[@ThatGamerPilot]

@@impishlyit9780 whats some3

[@cinnamoncat8950]

​@@ThatGamerPilot Summer Of Math Exposition 3

[@mft-zipy]

This is genuinely one of the best videos i’ve seen in years, I really hope this blows up. The world needs more people who can focus on something to this level with this level of dedication. only after creating research based videos could i fully understand how much work goes into something like this. good work lol ❤

[@harnoorsingh1015]

Great video brother, i loved your raid farm. Please don't stop making this type of content

[@maxlin5998]

I love the scientific and engineering approach you’ve brought to a block game, really shows the importance of these methods! A quick bit of feedback to improve your videos: I noticed what sounded like artifacts of aggressive noise reduction or smth where the quieter bits of your voice are getting cut out. (Ex “spawn attem…”). There are tools where you can feed some sample noise to a reducer noise reducer and it’ll match it well, better than what sounds like a gain cutoff. If that’s not it, then idk, treat this as a bug report 😂

[@WillyBotson]

This guy needs his PhD in Minecraft awarded already. He has greatly expanded the knowledge about Minecraft.

[@nodrogkram]

This is very comprehensive, and is presented and explained perfectly. Thank you and well done 👍

[@Some_Awe]

i really like how you showed the farms at the start before we knew anything and then at the end again :) And its even more amazing to see it work so efficiently :) wouldve liked to see the end points of the portal kills

[@madsromlund3835]

Hey, love the vid so far! Ive noticed that your mic has these short cutouts that makes your voice sound robotic, ive had a simular issue. I fixed it by getting another noice filter, but it might be a background noice remover, im not sure. It could allso be a noise gate, or noise limiter thats causing the issue, but i thought id throw in this info, to hwlp fogure out whats causing it! Took me a little while too 😁 Great vid!! Very technical but its awesome! 😊

[@yin-fire3263]

Seeing such a detailed videos into the nitty gritty, it's just amazing. This is a great contribution for something not generally talked about in KZbin.

[@lumberwand]

Glad to see Methodzz and Stromne's farm designs showcased here. They are personal friends of mine and know that they work hard to produce interesting and efficient farms. Keep up the good work!

[@N0ark.]

As soon as I saw this I clicked, I have recently fallen in love with the spawning algorithms, and I have been researching everything I can to make the most efficient designs I can possibly make, while still being vanilla compliant. Thank you for the new source of information.

[@NicoisLOST]

Awesome, glad it was helpful :-]

[@N0ark.]

@NicoisLOST yes, thank you, with confirmation of some features regarding pack spawning and the height map I have proudly designed a Guardian farm (singleplayer) that not only rivals the guardian gusher from raysworks but shows a 21.2% increase in drops. (Both were tested for at least 24 hours in a double monument setup, and sliced portals were used to prevent pigmen spawning in both designs during testing, though I plan to keep my sliced portals)

[@N0ark.]

However one thing I'm not 100% on is the guardian pack size, since when I boost my spawn rates to ~ 300 (to look for potential improvements and mishaps) I see big clumps of guardians spawning in groups way over 4.

[@FlippyL]

Don't mind me, just boosting engagement. Amazing, easy-to-understand video

[@feb926]

Your videos are packed with so much education and are calm and nice to watch. Keep it up.

[@kylewhite5695]

This is really good, some of the best technical Minecraft content out there

[@ImVortex01]

I've been watching a few videos of yours today and I really love the way you explain all the concepts and how much I'm learning from these videos. Honestly, very good content and very good work, it shows that there are hours behind each of your videos

[@hurotowel6539]

I love your presentation style! The emphasis on pack spawning was definitely the highlight for me

[@munchkin020]

This is a banger to watch at 4 am

[@Squilly4]

i've been super into technical minecraft stuff for like 3 years, and this video was so helpful! One of the things I've been struggling to understand was the Heightmap and some aspects of Pack Spawning, both of which I have a much better understanding of because of this video. Thank you so much!

[@NicoisLOST]

Glad it helped!

[@dashdartfun]

This is a great video and the mobs in my world are going to get farmed probably just as inefficiently because I cant make good mob farms.

[@epicman1470]

i love how these videos allow for us to know what other creators look for when creating a new mob farm style

[@iridium8562]

felt like a 3blue1brown video

[@mcmanman6140]

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[@soullless]

Seeing as it was for the SoMe3 challenge, which 3b1b organizes , it makes sense.

[@0wl0fth3nil3]

You're clearly super duper passionate about the vids you’re making, it really shows. You start off with a list of learning goals, and I've literally never seen a channel doing explanation/tutorial stuff have such a genuine and driven goal to actually instill an *understanding* of these base concepts rather than simply explaining the actions happening onscreen as they happen. Super high quality videos, keep up the good work!

[@sebbes333]

*@Nico is LOST* 32:01 Would it be better to stagger the activation of the water-flow? The idea is that at least one platform is always available to spawn on, so it removes "dead time" where all platforms are flooded & no spawns can happen, or is this bad somehow?

[@ottlight]

for the regular design it makes little difference due to not hitting the mobcap however it would be better to increase availability IF the mobcap is hit when available AND it is not hit when not available. TLDR: L if the mobcap is maxxed 0% of the time or 100% of the time it makes a no difference, else then it might make a difference

[@ottlight]

he says in the video theres an average of >69 mobs per tick so thats basically 100% filled. so it would make no difference

[@maxwellli7057]

It makes little difference, and it's more convenient for the "off" state of the farm to have totally flooded platforms

[@ВладиславФесенко-к1м]

These types of efficient bedrock-level farms are actually a godsent on any sort of Skyblock server, where: - each island is its own server instance/shard/whatever - you don't need to clear up chunks of dirt and stone to build the thing This video would have been a godsent for me 8-10 years ago. Keep up the good work!

[@jfht318]

For anyone confused on the pack spawning roof explanation , let me try to connect the dots a bit better. Withought the pack spawn roof, the air blocks around the sides of the platforms would not be considered valid pack spawn origins as the height map is currently set to the grass blocks below those air blocks . When we build the roof , the airblocks now have something above them and therefore the heightmaps for those columns with the airblocks is now raised. Hence, those airblocks are now valid pack spawn origins and they can result in something spawning on the platforms even with an airblock origin.

[@2ez4u2]

Learning how to read and understand Minecraft source code for a video is insane. I have a lot of respect for that. Well done!

[@chibi5694]

I love your videos. Keep the good work

[@z4pp820]

awesome video, highly enjoy when minecraft videos delve into some math. i'd highly recommend setting the gate release time on your mic to be a little longer, since it seems to be ducking very quickly resulting some consonant sounds disappearing.

[@_bastigaming8338]

Nah 12:22 got my german friend acting out 💀

[@joshuafrank1246]

This is my favorite technical Minecraft channel. It feels so well produced and is explained very well.

[@lpc9929]

I am infertile from eating scented candles

[@stuff9283]

What the freak?

[@juicebox6581]

This is the type of content i love. Theres so many creators that say "this is my favorite use this" and then u come along and only use game code and math to figure out how to maximise efficiency. I love channels like this. Pls keep this up!

[@assassinsahab]

I am surprised how good the minecraft videos on #SoMe3 are great deepdive both for mc nerds like us and math people !

[@RumblyGL]

I was just searching for more information on mob spawning. Thanks step-bro.

[@Roi_8888]

Step bro? Likestep bro in relationships or like a nice step

[@gnembon]

Niceeee

[@halloichbinfly5562]

I love these informative videos. It’s amazing to exactly know how the game works and why it behaves the way it does

[@sim2769]

I love how you put a normal gold farm next to eol in the start

[@Gunnvulcan]

This was a crazy amount of information that was incredibly well delivered. Well done.

[@skywatcher458]

if only there's someone like you wondering the way Mob Spawn works in Bedrock version 😢

[@krzysztofturant4886]

Love all technical vids the amount of information and math is do useful you definitely need more Reach on the community keep up the work

[@I3ashor]

amazingly condensed and illustrated information, thanks alot and bravo! this should be the goto if s1 asks about mob spawning in minecraft

[@defaultnano]

32:30 do you think offsetting the water on different sections could increase the farm’s efficiency more? i’m not sure how to explain it but i feel that having two sections with opposite water timings would make the farm faster

[@TheAechBomb]

it could help a little, but only if the mob cap is being reached sometimes, but not always. having the water be only on or off for the whole farm is more beneficial because you can just turn off the farm by leaving the water on

[@JusTryNc]

Good stuff man! It’s much appreciated

[@ihatealanfitch7718]

12:10 🙂 12:20 👀 12:29 🙂 On a real note tho… love this video and how in depth it goes.. can’t wait to get home next week and put this all to the test 🔥

[@theliberator0390]

Saw the iron farm video when it came out and i'm delighted to see you're analyzing more farms. Keep it up !

[@Melancholic_Fox]

this is easily one of the best channels on youtube for this stuff. i cant believe you only have 50k subs, you totally deserve 1mil+

[@JohannTheBotha]

Fantastic video on the topic! I have watched many and this one explains it really well ❤

[@JohannTheBotha]

No you CANNOT make method's farm a general mob farm. Baby zombies... The performance dies in 10 seconds flat... I tried it....😅

[@JohannTheBotha]

Aside from that, this is the best video on the Internet on the topic and frankly you inspired me. Mob farm design in progress

[@Rigel0]

10 minute video the teacher sent us: mehh 35 minutes of mob spawning: yeahhhh

[@calvindang7291]

Aha, finally a good explanation on why you want a roof. I was never sure about that part.

[@Cubex-rf7of]

Wow, highly dense in information, but still processable!

[@sawyer6551]

I've built a ton of farms and I'm generally our servers go to for when something needs farmed in Vanilla or Modded. It's very interesting to finally get a better understanding of why the vanilla farms I use or repurpose for modded do the things they do. The understanding really makes me appreciate the insane skills and knowledge that go into the farms I take from youtube. Thank you!

[@emmanuelmonforte9928]

Nico ain't lost, he is a god damn genius where he needs to be right now, which is teaching us

[@tritemis2056]

You are the first KZbinr which I subscribed, liked and commented because he asked for it. Hope your channel will grow a lot!

[@BlackHeartScyther]

This is super detailed, exactly what ive been looking for as a technical minecrafter. Keep up the good work!

[@notsureifimollie359]

this is such an amazing video dude, your hard work shows ❤️

[@amaarjeyasothy7225]

Great video! I thought the format was great and especially found the example section at the end to be useful. I would like if there were more examples interlaced throughout the video, especially if we could get one in each section.

[@seralpa]

That is a lot of information explained and condensed in a very clear way. To me, the highlight are the graphs and empirical test to show how much of a difference optimizations make. Amazing job!

[@somebody_JB]

Maximizing mob spawning is easy. making it efficient? thats a whole new world of Minecraft.

[@feschber]

finally a video that explains the mechanics and not just a step by step guide on how to build a mobfarm

[@dummybugstudios6450]

Dude this is sick! This is the exact content that was missing from KZbin when looking at farm design. Thanks for reading the source code for us! Subscribed!

[@fracazer]

Amazing video, with a lot of helpful information. Cleared of lot of obscure point I wasn't totally sure about when making farms.

[@viewyevening8719]

That was really interesting and entertaining, thank you

[@uvibalcey]

This has to be one of the best technical Minecraft channels on the platform You provide us with the tools to be able to innovate and design to our needs, whilst presenting the information as clear and organised as possible Thank you very much 🙌🏾

[@jordangeiser]

You are a true mad lad for going through the effort to make this video and I love it!

[@sepplschpeedruns281]

This is awesome. I honestly didn't think I was going to learn anything since I am quite familiar with the "mobspawning system" but boy was I wrong. Such a great Video, thanks for the amazing work!

[@SunflowerPsycho]

This was actually incredible! Thank you for the exact video I was looking for!

[@domzi]

Thanks for the details. Finally someone with charts and data. THAT‘s the way to help umderstanding the matter better. I will build a roof on my goldfarm, totally forgot about it and compare the drops

[@Fauxvale]

Fantastic video! Wish I'd seen it sooner. Clean editing, well explained with helpful and engaging graphics. Thank you so much, 10/10

[@sysco2k5]

Thanx for all your work! Pretty informative Video for the topic of Mob-Spawning and Mob-Farming in Minecraft.

[@nyavvey]

Im not liking any videos because I just dont care. However you made this video so high quality and with so much detail (and so understandable), that I’m really impressed. Great work, thank you sir.

[@redbot1233]

This video has so much effort put in it and because of that it’s super informative! I learned so much, you really should have more subs.

[@NicoisLOST]

Thank you :-]

[@RoarkCats]

As a technical player I didn't think I'd learn much, but having everything laid out like this revealed a few smaller things I hadn't fully thought of like how while 7 blocks is optimal, you can add more if you really want, or how having any solid blocks under the roof could hurt rates

[@exactlyonesasquatch2572]

Got part of the way into the video very impressed and gave a like. Got the the end of the video blown away and subscribed ;)

[@GIRGHGH]

Rest in piece half the consonants and thus my understanding of quite a few words.

[@ASOUE]

Wow wow wow this video is great. The format reminds me of my favorite professor’s teaching style. I kept learning the nitty gritty of things I’ve *heard* of but didn’t really understand, and then immediately seeing it applied.

[@andykohler2865]

A fascinating journey into mob spawning mechanics. I lost track of time while watching, really engrossing. Very well done!

[@lemonbread378]

youve certainly achieved your goal of a solid intro now i know why all those farms have the freaking giant roof i always assumed it was for light level reasons also watching the spawn probability simulation was super satisfying, especially whe ln you showed that when tiled it evens out an amazing video all in all, cant wait to see more from ya!

[@theothertored]

thanks for the illustration of how pack spawning works, very informative video and pleasant to watch too

[@emd4273]

Your videos are like michelin foods. You take many ingredients (information, game mechanics etc.), which themselves aren't that much digestible, and you make them into perfect meal (this video) that tastes amazing.

[@Stephan-wf1ec]

This video is honestly some of the most useful information for anyone trying to design a serious farm from nothing.

[@virozz4490]

Seriously an amazing video, even though the topic is complicated, I could understand everything

[@patricknocens6191]

WOW, amazing sources of information, Thanks Nico !

[@khoibut6206]

i just found this channel 2 days ago and I AM IN LOVE

[@lost7180]

The visuals reminded me of 3blue1brown a lot, who does a phenomenal job explaining maths. Top tier work Nico