Using SuperSource on the ATEM Mini Extreme // Show and Tell Ep.80

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Here to Record

Here to Record

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@heretorecord
@heretorecord 3 жыл бұрын
Looking to try out the H2R SuperSource Layouts? Give it a go here... layouts.heretorecord.com/
@MalyanDrum
@MalyanDrum 2 жыл бұрын
I just revisited your H2R layout builder & I just discovered you inclided the DJP code builder. You have just saved me so many hours of work as I'm always having to do them all by guesswork for new compositions for my streams! THANK YOU!!!!
@heretorecord
@heretorecord 2 жыл бұрын
It sure does - Thanks to Doug for his help on that, and great that you can use it!
@pianistpayne123
@pianistpayne123 3 жыл бұрын
Your videos on the ATEM Extreme are absolutely fantastic! Thank you!!
@heretorecord
@heretorecord 3 жыл бұрын
Really happy to hear it!
@anthonysanders296
@anthonysanders296 7 ай бұрын
Thanks! This was very helpful and helped me decide on my Blackmagic purchase. Keep doing what you're doing!
@timhughes4259
@timhughes4259 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent as always John! Thanks!
@dancoffeyuk
@dancoffeyuk 3 жыл бұрын
This was really helpful thanks. Your layout creator is really impressive and amazing that it is free to use. I will buy the pack of layouts as soon as I'm at my desk! Thanks for all the tips, keep it up!
@heretorecord
@heretorecord 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@tpcomcam
@tpcomcam 3 жыл бұрын
Well explained - looking forward to the next. David
@heretorecord
@heretorecord 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers!
@TONYCOOLSFISHING4X4TOURING
@TONYCOOLSFISHING4X4TOURING 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate great lesson picked up my Extreme ISO yesterday looking forward to more lessons CHEERS.
@heretorecord
@heretorecord 3 жыл бұрын
Great to hear!
@LedgerStatus
@LedgerStatus 3 жыл бұрын
These tutorials are so helpful, thank you. Have my extreme on the way 🙏
@heretorecord
@heretorecord 3 жыл бұрын
Hope it comes soon!
@FloRabinsky
@FloRabinsky 3 жыл бұрын
I love your Videos! Great Job! Thank you
@BugBobsWildWorld
@BugBobsWildWorld 3 жыл бұрын
Great job, John! Thank you so much
@heretorecord
@heretorecord 3 жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@spielundzeug
@spielundzeug 3 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to the animation video! We’ll see if it arrives before my extreme does 😀
@heretorecord
@heretorecord 3 жыл бұрын
No pressure :D
@dputub
@dputub 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this. Very helpful.
@heretorecord
@heretorecord 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@arturbar3002
@arturbar3002 3 жыл бұрын
Very good, and useful video. Thanks for your work! Appreciated!
@heretorecord
@heretorecord 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@CreateConsumeRepeat
@CreateConsumeRepeat 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. The super source feature makes the extreme worth it in my book. Thankfully with a little ingenuity you can create a professional side by side with animated background on the OG ATEM. I even made a video about it.
@heretorecord
@heretorecord 3 жыл бұрын
I did to :)
@DivineLightProductions
@DivineLightProductions 2 жыл бұрын
This is awesome! Thanks so much for sharing! :-) Followup question: let’s say you setup SSrc how you want it looking as well as add your logo. If you change what file(s) is in MP 1 or 2 while you’re already live with MP files displaying, will it delete/remove the media files that were displaying on screen? Do you see BMD in the future adding the feature of allowing video files (mov, mp4, etc) to be put in the media pool or maybe a motion picture version of the media pool? Hope that made sense! Thanks! - Jared
@LukeJohnEmmett
@LukeJohnEmmett 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Is there a way to cross fade between two different super source layouts? For example I have one layout which has an overlay as a DSK with camera 1 in the background. I’ve then got the same layout but switch to camera 2. Is there a way to fade rather than cut between them. Or bring them into preview first and then programme the auto to transition them into programme? I haven’t found a way to successfully do this yet :(
@sezzivideo
@sezzivideo 3 жыл бұрын
Another great video John
@heretorecord
@heretorecord 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it - thanks!
@samsilverstein4950
@samsilverstein4950 3 жыл бұрын
I purchased your pack and love it. I also love the "make your own" layout site. I would love it if you could add the ability to add a border on the site. That would be awesome! Any chance of adding that? In lew of that is there some standard line of code that you could provide that I could just add into the macro file?
@heretorecord
@heretorecord 3 жыл бұрын
Keen to add it, but it is taking some work!
@uwemuller4078
@uwemuller4078 3 жыл бұрын
great video. thank you!!! got the H2R package. How about some frames (png, or editable as psd-files) to the layouts?
@heretorecord
@heretorecord 3 жыл бұрын
I'm considering it, and hoping to add that to the app too! Thanks for getting it!
@kox1984
@kox1984 2 жыл бұрын
hellow HTR... big fan of your videos. I have a question. I am a bit confused of why the Extreme ISO doesnt record the Supersource? Im i doing it wrong or is it just not made for that? And if it isnt, do you have a video of which a smart way to get the same layouts as supersource, onto your ISO recording. Did that make sense? regards and big UP's from DK
@discoverchurch-Wadsworth
@discoverchurch-Wadsworth 3 жыл бұрын
Nailed it Great info as always
@NeenjaProdux
@NeenjaProdux 3 жыл бұрын
So I actually have a question for you: why would I choose the atem mini over software based solution in your opinion? A couple of weeks ago I streamed a 5 cameras live concert (1h30m) to facebook, with digitally zoomed scenes for different looks, up to 3 cameras split screen, overlay graphics, pre recorded video ads, i even sharpened the image coming out of an older canon dslr and added some color correction to better match the other cameras... I used obs and a 2012 macmini i7 quad with 16GB of ram, 2 internal drives (256GB ssd + 1TB hdd). For the video inputs i used inexpensive hdmi to usb chinese cards (about 18$ each on amazon) and a usb3 hub for a couple of extra usbs. The mini was definitely too hot but didn’t flinch, I even recorded the streaming on the internal HDD. Now I replaced the thermal paste and added an external fan (ran a few tests and with this little mod i went from 104C to 70C with 98% constant cpu usage) I basically spent only 150$ ish... 100ish for the hdmi cards 30ish for the fan and 10ish for the thermal paste. It is definitely loud now with the fans on.. but other than noise... what’s the advantage of the atem mini? Why not buy an elgato streamdeck for example if i just wanna add physical buttons? There’s literally NOBODY talking about this on the internet... i can’t be the only one confused about this can i?
@heretorecord
@heretorecord 3 жыл бұрын
This is a good question, and the reason it is not a discussion in any of my videos is that the two options "Hardware-based" vs "Software-based" is an extremely lengthy and detailed chat with a lot of variables. I use vMix all the time on desktops and laptops and am always happy with all of the options that I have which go far beyond the options of my ATEMs in many ways. What you have to keep in mind is that there are pros and cons in both areas and depending on your experience one option can be much easier than the other. Just to break it down a little into some pros and cons of each... Hardware based: Pro: The device has been custom built to achieve one task (or tasks) and is optimized to carry out those tasks. Con: Hardware limitations and costing means that devices cannot do everything you might want them to do. Software based: Pro: You can achieve a lot of interesting and dynamic productions all within a software switcher and scale it over time to suit your needs. Con: Your computer might decide to work on something in the background that you don't notice is impacting your production negatively. I have just started working on blog post about this as there is too much to discuss in this one comment :D
@NeenjaProdux
@NeenjaProdux 3 жыл бұрын
@@heretorecord can I have a link to these blog posts please? :))
@MrMercho4416
@MrMercho4416 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks ! Excellent Video.
@heretorecord
@heretorecord 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped!
@finabianco1706
@finabianco1706 2 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to save our preset to find them sooner? Do you know how to do it? thanks a lot
@andyk2456
@andyk2456 3 жыл бұрын
I do far more complex video compositions, on the fly, with Wirecast and NDI sources. On the fly adjustment of drop shadows, text, graphics, cropping and proc amp controls for every separate element of the video composition. As a former Fox News TD, I find Wirecast a much more controllable, elegant option to hardware switchers. I am a Mac guy, but I am sure the same may be said for VMix. What I wish Blackmagic would produce is an affordable, multiple NDI conversion box (say 8 SDI/HDMI inputs to 8 NDI or NDIHX feeds).
@heretorecord
@heretorecord 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, vMix has all of those features too. And a BMD NDI box would be highly unlikely. Best to stick with Wirecast for now.
@stewartspotlight1
@stewartspotlight1 6 ай бұрын
If you have 3 individuals on Zoom - how do you place them in the boxes?
@ThePastorB
@ThePastorB 3 жыл бұрын
how did you keep your upstream key applied in your supersource?
@galaga00
@galaga00 Жыл бұрын
Let's say I had PowerPoint input on the mixer running from a computer into the mixer. Could I have say Camera 1 layered on top of that video from the computer? I also see people laying video on top of graphics but never video on top of video. Thanks :)
@michaelkeenan2658
@michaelkeenan2658 3 жыл бұрын
If you have say camera one with green screen (chroma) and it has a mp1 image as the background can you bring it into supersource with this key ? If so please let me know how to do this
@chrishartzell8593
@chrishartzell8593 2 жыл бұрын
informative
@kevinrouch5984
@kevinrouch5984 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, John! Thank you. How are you bringing guests into SuperSource?
@heretorecord
@heretorecord 3 жыл бұрын
Good question! For this video my "guests" are coming in via my laptop and my PCs external display. In general I would likely use Zoom or vMix call though in both cases I would only get a clean of up to two guests at a time in the Mini.
@kevinrouch5984
@kevinrouch5984 3 жыл бұрын
@@heretorecord Thanks, John. Would love to see a video on this to understand best practices and the limitation on clean feeds.
@heretorecord
@heretorecord 3 жыл бұрын
Good thinking!
@dntaspro
@dntaspro 2 жыл бұрын
@Here to Record i have a specific question about the mini Extreme, can you use luma on SuperSource if you have green screen on one source or on multiple sources????? Same luma on all sources or mediaplayer is my ideal.
@heretorecord
@heretorecord 2 жыл бұрын
Not 100% sure what you want to achieve with that! Send more details here: heretorecord.com/about/
@tobiaslofi
@tobiaslofi 2 жыл бұрын
Great! Do you know if the ATEM rememberers my custom super source layouts even when powered off? We want to use this without a laptop with the ATEM software. Just have a default custom super source layout saved in the ATEM, plug everything in when on location, and we expect it to work instantly. Is that so? Thanks
@heretorecord
@heretorecord 2 жыл бұрын
It is possibly so long as you set everything up the way you like it and then use the Save Startup State in the ATEM Software Control.
@tobiaslofi
@tobiaslofi 2 жыл бұрын
@@heretorecord Perfect!!!!!! Thanks, we ordered an ATEM Mini Extreme now
@patamuslo69
@patamuslo69 3 жыл бұрын
Hi John! as i can see in your still (mountain still, with snow at night), maybe you use Apple KEYNOTE... i have one problem that can find solution... I made some graphics to use as stiils in the AMEI media pool, exported with NO FILL background (transparent) and set the atem for premultiplied... The exported graphics looks good on the file, but when superimposed on the Atem, looks awful Aliased on the borders, what can i try to do? THANKS!!
@heretorecord
@heretorecord 3 жыл бұрын
Email me about that with examples/screenshots and we can chat about it john(at) heretorecord.com
@krishnansrinivasan830
@krishnansrinivasan830 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome & Thanks :)
@heretorecord
@heretorecord 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@ammar_baghdad
@ammar_baghdad 3 жыл бұрын
thanks
@goldyarora914
@goldyarora914 3 жыл бұрын
This is awesome, thank you so much, so I looked at your other video where you helped achieved side by side layout with 2 atem minis, but it seems with extreme now it is possible within one device? Did I get it right? I would replace my mini pro to extreme if that's the case as I just bought it.
@heretorecord
@heretorecord 3 жыл бұрын
Yes you are correct!
@goldyarora914
@goldyarora914 3 жыл бұрын
@@heretorecord In your macros pack, is this layout included? Thank you
@heretorecord
@heretorecord 3 жыл бұрын
It’s actually not currently in the macro pack, but building it on H2R SuperSource Layouts would be a quick job :)
@MattFromRI
@MattFromRI 3 жыл бұрын
Hi John, maybe I missed it, but is it possible to have multiple super sources created and ready to use? I am looking to use this device as a video game tournament recorder where 4 consoles each have their own camera recording the players. So I would like 4 setups, each console input with the corresponding camera. essentially 4 inputs each with their own PIP. Hope that makes sense. Thanks!
@heretorecord
@heretorecord 3 жыл бұрын
Yes Matt - this is possible, however you will want to have these set up as macros, then trigger each macro depending on what layout you want at the time.
@MattFromRI
@MattFromRI 3 жыл бұрын
@@heretorecord awesome! Thank you!
@MA16v3
@MA16v3 3 жыл бұрын
Out of curiousity, does the supersource tie up the upstream keyers while in use, or can you also throw your four upstream keyers on top of it?
@heretorecord
@heretorecord 3 жыл бұрын
It does not tie them up so you can still use them!
@ArjanvanderMeij
@ArjanvanderMeij 3 жыл бұрын
Hi John, thanks for the great videos! We (at our school) have recently purchased a Atem mini Extreme and we were just trying to get the Streamdeck with companion running to put in our Macros but it doesn't want to connect. Did you already try this? Or doe we have to wait for a Companion update? Thanks!
@heretorecord
@heretorecord 3 жыл бұрын
As far as I am aware, the macros should work just fine with the current version of Companion. Perhaps choose "auto-detect" and be sure to triple check the IP address.
@ArjanvanderMeij
@ArjanvanderMeij 3 жыл бұрын
@@heretorecord Thanks! Will try that.
@kevinjungpark
@kevinjungpark 2 жыл бұрын
Is supersource available on all ATEM Mini Extreme models? Or only the ISO?
@heretorecord
@heretorecord 2 жыл бұрын
Yes it’s available on both Extreme models. I have the non-ISO in all my videos
@filmops1215
@filmops1215 3 жыл бұрын
Hey John, great content as always! How do you bring in an interview to each of those sources? If zoom or Skype we would need 4 computers? is there a better way? Cheers.
@heretorecord
@heretorecord 3 жыл бұрын
I’m certainly exploring that but it would seem that separate computers is the best method for now.
@dawgscentral
@dawgscentral 3 жыл бұрын
@@heretorecord What I do is a second computer as source 1 and make 3 of the boxes as that source and crop so that it looks like three sauces.
@dawgscentral
@dawgscentral 3 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/q2nYY3mZabGjaNU Scrub through to where it actually worked. LOL - used a macro that somehow wiped out my ss settings so when I went live - it defaulted the SS
@DougPipersr
@DougPipersr 3 жыл бұрын
Your videos are so helpful! Thank you for making them. Is it possible to run super source with a chroma image in one camera? I'm using an ATEM Mini Extreme and I use a green screen behind the main speaker's camera. I'd like to show the main speaker, green-screened background (not actually green, but chroma out with a nice background) with super source. Is that possible? You seem to be showing a green-screened background in your demo here, but I didn't know if that was done in the ATEM or in Premiere.
@heretorecord
@heretorecord 3 жыл бұрын
I don't believe it will quite work like that, though there must be a workaround of some sort!
@DougPipersr
@DougPipersr 3 жыл бұрын
@@heretorecord Anything you can suggest would be appreciated!
@SuperCleary
@SuperCleary 3 жыл бұрын
Looking to use this sort of setup to bring a remote guest into my live stream. I think super source will make the magic happen.
@heretorecord
@heretorecord 3 жыл бұрын
For sure!
@ViktorGamov
@ViktorGamov 3 жыл бұрын
Hi John, Do you use any special color profiles for atem HDMI when capturing computer screen. When I do this colors on atem look too punchy/contrasty. Any recommendations?
@heretorecord
@heretorecord 3 жыл бұрын
Funny enough I just click around until I find one I like. I have yet to find the one I like most but I agree it’s not great by default.
@hat101080
@hat101080 3 жыл бұрын
With SuperSource on the ATEM Mini Extreme, is it possible to display more than 4 BOXs at the same time? for example 5, 6, 8 boxes at the same time. Thanks
@heretorecord
@heretorecord 3 жыл бұрын
You can add a 5th or 6th box by using the DVE functions of the Upstream Keyer. 6 is the maximum though.
@hat101080
@hat101080 3 жыл бұрын
​@@heretorecord it's done, thank you
@MattFreestonePictures
@MattFreestonePictures 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your fantastic tutorials - I've just got the ATEM Mini Extreme and enjoying is enormously. Can you help with something I'm struggling with please? I'm looking to wipe or DVE transition linear downstream keyed lower thirds. It seems as though the only options with the extreme are to cut or mix on (via Software Control or a macro). Is there a solution I'm missing? I'm assuming it might be because there isn't a dedicated M/E bank. Thanks in advance.
@heretorecord
@heretorecord 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting, if I understand correctly then this will not be easy to do with the built in transitions. You could use an app like mine (H2R Graphics) and let that wipe your lower third on air instead though: h2r.li/graphics
@MattFreestonePictures
@MattFreestonePictures 3 жыл бұрын
@@heretorecord Thank you somuch - really appreciate that. Seems odd (and an easy firmware fix) to not allow the transitions flexibility when using the DSK. I could create video files for animating straps (and have), but much easier to create .png files, use the in the media pool and wipe or DVE them on...
@MattFreestonePictures
@MattFreestonePictures 3 жыл бұрын
@@heretorecord Can I use your app to wipe on pre-made .png lower thirds?
@heretorecord
@heretorecord 3 жыл бұрын
Kind of. But only with custom css, so perhaps it’s not the best fix in your case
@MattFreestonePictures
@MattFreestonePictures 3 жыл бұрын
@@heretorecord Many thanks.
@Moderan17038
@Moderan17038 3 жыл бұрын
je veux faire la diffusion d'un match avec ce melangeur mais je ne sais pas comment mettre les belles actions en ralentir au cours du direct. aidez moi s'il vous plait
@drumspearl12
@drumspearl12 3 жыл бұрын
is that possible to use ISO for webcam? Like 8 webcam input?
@heretorecord
@heretorecord 3 жыл бұрын
You will only get the Program output of the switcher over the USB connection.
@pierrejeanjean9355
@pierrejeanjean9355 3 жыл бұрын
Nice job! Tx
@heretorecord
@heretorecord 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@ammar_baghdad
@ammar_baghdad 3 жыл бұрын
Hi. I have a question please regarding my Canon 70D. It only has the capacity to complete a 30 min stream in one go during my live stream and after that, it turns off. I do not want to record but I want it to continue streaming during my live stream for more than 30 min and not to shut down. How can I do that? Please note I use ATEM to stream my live videos so I don't need it to record. If I can't do it with a Canon 70D, is there another item that I need to complete this? Many thanks in advance.
@heretorecord
@heretorecord 3 жыл бұрын
It's possible that MagicLatern might help (at least that used to be the fix for this sort of thing) - not sure if it is still working though!
@timhughes4259
@timhughes4259 3 жыл бұрын
Check you're using video mode not photo? The 70D has a 30 minute limit for live view photo shooting, but in video mode I didn't think there was a limit, only if you are recording in the camera. Other canon dslr's don't have such a limit, I'm not sure about the 70D as I no longer have that one.
@ammar_baghdad
@ammar_baghdad 3 жыл бұрын
@@timhughes4259 thanks I checked that but still the same bloblem
@dreamerzentertainment4015
@dreamerzentertainment4015 2 жыл бұрын
Genius
@BodybreakHal-Jo
@BodybreakHal-Jo 3 жыл бұрын
Can I plug the Atem mini extreme into a hub and use companion will my stream deck work?
@heretorecord
@heretorecord 3 жыл бұрын
For companion you will need to connect the ATEM to a local network and run companion on a computer on that same network.
@hatlif
@hatlif 3 жыл бұрын
hi,did Atem 1M/E support SuperSource?
@heretorecord
@heretorecord 3 жыл бұрын
It does not
@canukpiper
@canukpiper 2 жыл бұрын
Hi I love your tips and tricks Im really stuck I have been asked to livestream a dungeons and dragons event I have an atem mini extreme pro iso 3 blackmagic 4k pocket cinema cameras. Access to 3 macs And running ecamm live hoping to Stream 3 cameras on one screen Im lost as how to do this Can you help ?
@heretorecord
@heretorecord 2 жыл бұрын
In this case you can connect all the cameras up to the ATEM, and stream directly from the ATEM or use the USB connection into Ecamm and stream that way. Sounds like you have all the pieces!
@VHIOfficial1974
@VHIOfficial1974 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Can we have only 4 boxes in Super Source
@heretorecord
@heretorecord 3 жыл бұрын
Yes. Only 4. On the extreme though you can add the Upstream Keyers over top of SuperSource for a 6-box layout
@dawgscentral
@dawgscentral 3 жыл бұрын
is there a way to see the xml files so that I can save my ss settings?
@heretorecord
@heretorecord 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, Go to File>Save As and open the file that is saved!
@mrfahrenheit3607
@mrfahrenheit3607 2 жыл бұрын
So no borders Yet?
@beatprocess
@beatprocess 6 күн бұрын
they couldnt do supersource on mini pro? what the hardware cant do it?
@heretorecord
@heretorecord 6 күн бұрын
Hard to say for sure - they may not have the power in that device for SuperSource OR they would rather you buy the bigger switcher.
@robbieramosok
@robbieramosok 3 жыл бұрын
can you do the same with atem mini pro?
@heretorecord
@heretorecord 3 жыл бұрын
Not without daisy-chaining devices together.
@robbieramosok
@robbieramosok 3 жыл бұрын
@@heretorecord thanks!
@Reivax1512
@Reivax1512 3 жыл бұрын
Only atem extreme?
@heretorecord
@heretorecord 3 жыл бұрын
Correct. Only on ATEMs with SuperSource which is the extreme and a few very expensive ATEMs too
@AaronJCourtney
@AaronJCourtney 3 жыл бұрын
At least someone has one 🤷
@heretorecord
@heretorecord 3 жыл бұрын
Hope you don’t have to wait much longer!
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