Using the Dawes Rolls to Research Native American Ancestry | Ancestry

[@reemjeffs8225]

$5 y'all gotta chill....

[@crystalhoskins1655]

What does that mean?

[@radagoat97]

@@crystalhoskins1655 At one time in history people paid $5 to call themselves Indians in order to obtain land. Look it up. Peculiar situation

[@crystalhoskins1655]

@@radagoat97 How do you find out if your ancestors did this atrocity? I'm a tribal member, and I'd be appalled to learn of this in my past.

[@WildindianTv]

@Reem Jeffs you are not lying

[@aletheafoley7239]

Yt ppl walking around here claiming heritage they paid $5 for. When my ppl still trying to figure it out 😒

[@rebelnakia9276]

My great great grandfather's heritage erased. Thanks to the Dawes Roll. Smh. Karma come on.....

[@truthfinder4973]

100% truth there that roll is full of 5 dollar in bills in stacks.

[@fairyeyes04]

Same with my family. Some were canceled while others were rejected. But I still found them living their tribe on cencus records.

[@AnAdorableWombat1]

All lies. If they were native they’d be on the rolls. Just an excuse to justify why they are not on the rolks

[@Wildflower417]

$5 Indians on that roll all these white people kids enjoying the benefits of their grandparents paying their $5 to be in the Dawes rolls

[@Wildflower417]

@@AnAdorableWombat1let me guess you trust the government

[@MrMagic-nw2tl]

Changed our Identities all Biblical Prophecies scattered throughout

[@matthewmann8969]

The DNA, Ancestry, Lineage, And Genetics are all kinds of screwy dewy

[@azborderlands]

Mine was straightforward, and I wasn’t even looking and I found many ancestors on the US senses who were “indian”

[@mrs.lindageorge2117]

Where I come from there's copper color Indian statue named CHIEF Paduke which is Paducah Kentucky Daniel Boone was across the river in Illinois Metropolis they use to have buffalo there I don't see them anymore but there's a lot want to be five dollar indians

[@AmaruSkeyeHawk]

We are not natives, we are indigenous aboriginals.

[@monnieeeeyt7037]

Aboriginal American Deitiez what archeological evidence do you have? All people CAME to America from some place else. No such thing as indigenous people of America. And “native Americans” are not the first people that sailed to this land.

[@catmomlavender3036]

@@monnieeeeyt7037 where did Native American people come from?

[@AmaruSkeyeHawk]

@darkeagle Fake eagle fyi there was no transatlantic trade. U were indoctrinated to believe that bs

[@oradixiegalloway672]

@@monnieeeeyt7037 No they weren't, melanated people was the first race of people on this earth.and they was here in America ,before so call Indians.

[@beth3531]

@@monnieeeeyt7037 my ancestors were here since the ice age. That's about as close to indigenous as they come!

[@karenshurley2333]

This information I have; my family clan is what I’m searching for. The Muccogee Tribe doesn’t have this and my elders are all gone.

[@Cyndia1969]

Thank you for the video❤ very helpful for me

[@thetruthseeker6362]

$5 Indians...

[@velvetrose7729]

RIGHT.......If you are White and using the Dawes Roll to research your "Native American Ancestry"..... Most of YOU...... are NOT part Native American! I had to chuckle when she said.....If you do a DNA test done and it doesn't find Native American ancestry...... You could still be Native American, YES but not for the BS reasons she gave......It's.... BECAUSE.....You're just a 5 dollar Indian! Again.....If you're White.....being on the Dawes Rolls, DOES NOT mean you are Native American.....it means your ancestors Paid 5 dollars, to be included on those rolls....So they could receive the 40 acres (per person) allotted to Actual Native Americans. Think I'm wrong.......go look at the actual list! I'm supposed to Believe....people, with Surnames like..... Cooper....... Gibson..... Clay..... Lewis....Taylor..... freaking Jefferson, Colbert, Jacobs and Williams..... Were actually FULL Native Americans?!?

[@GoMommaGo]

My great Grandmother’s maiden name was Feather and I know she was living in West Virginia when she passed. There is a massive genealogy book in existence and my moms mom owned a copy. It was given to my mom and then someone in my family took it. Haven’t seen it since. It was published.

[@tjdetroittheysaythetruthhu6190]

My granddad is from Virginia him and all of his siblings had to flee and were told if they ever mentioned the name of there tribe they'd be executed. So im searching/seeking my family out

[@patriciajrs46]

@@tjdetroittheysaythetruthhu6190 what tribe would do that? I can only think of a mean tribe maybe: Apache, Comanche, or something. I am only grasping at straws.

[@patriciajrs46]

That is really sad. I pray that they will give it back.

[@littleonex378]

@Tj Detroit They say the Truth hurts what tribe told them that? .

[@anpdm1493]

Dawes rolls are full of $5.00 Indians.

[@jackwood1621]

I think all the census records (Dawse book) was filled out by white people to keep up with number of indians! My indian ancestry came from the indians who escaped from trail of tears, the fore no records! My mother was taught at an early age to deny her indian blood lines, therefore her ancesters only choice to be independent and not to be forced to live on a reservation, the census at that time only had 3 choices, The whites filled out the, white_______ black_________ malatas________ . Native indian did not exist except in dawse book on reservation. Government decided to mark malata, gov. Did not want to look bad with all the escapist that ran and did rather well on there own! My Mother passed away July 17th 2008, Cherokee Mother of the Panther clan of north central Florida. She never was called a "STINKING INDIAN" Mother had her card & papers, they were sent with her. I have no need to step on others for pure greed! Just wish I could remember everything she tried to teach me about her ways!

[@douglasvilledarling2935]

I have family members that were listed on the census as Indian. Through the generations the moved to Louisiana from Indian territory in Oklahoma and became listed as white

[@mrs.lindageorge2117]

My great grandfather was Cherokee and he never told us about anything as a secret

[@mrs.lindageorge2117]

Hey did your family have woods,or wood the census takers where of other nations French and European they couldn't spell our ANCESTORS names so they did what they could by changing our names

[@louisdead6761]

My great grandfather always said his mother was native... but she refused to talk about it It makes me so sad because i feel so connected to that family history but i cant for the life of me find what tribe she was

[@PSen-nz2dq]

John Ross signed a deposition stating he knew Lydia Hopper and her sister, that they were Cherokee citizens and lived in the Cherokee Nation. Yet Lydia's grand children (last names of Grant, Rich, etc) Applications for Citizenship were denied. Lydia's son, Nathaniel "Ned De" Wofford and AhNeWaKe Wofford and child were on the Trail of Tears. My question is, did denial of an application for Citizenship mean they were not Cherokee, or were they denied because they weren't living on reservation land? Thank you. Great overview of how to use the Dawes records. ~ Pam

[@dwrutsgnt4225]

Thanks for the information, I’ve been researching because we are Watts and found out Chief John Watts was our ancestor along with Routledge/Rutledge

[@erydaylife3518]

I found Chief John watts in my ancestry tree. U had any luck? Enrollment

[@allenabbey2475]

My great great grandmothers name was Sarah Herd, not sure of the spelling. She was married to Fountain Halbrook in Salem Mo. In about 1840 she was removed to Oklahoma with their oldest daughter. She was supposedly Choctaw. Somehow he was successful in bringing them home and had more children. We would like to be able to confirm our Indian heritage so we can be able to adopt Indian children who are in danger of being separated from their siblings. Our passion is keeping siblings together as they have already lost so much. We are not exclusively looking at only Indian children but some have come up and we are currently excluded from being able to adopt them because we are not a member of a recognized tribe.

[@AncestryUS]

Ancestry has a large collection of Indian records from Oklahoma State. Search those records to see if you can find her and her children listed.

[@melissabrackin3790]

I suggest you contact the Choctaw Nation Headquarters in Durant Oklahoma.. they should have a genealogy dept to help you get the documentation you need for tribal membership

[@Digitallythrivingwhaley]

Hello I recently found I am a direct descendant of cherokee, huron nation, & lennilenape. How can I go about finding my heritage? I have seen mixed reviews on testing.

[@nativenchristian]

Hi! How would a friend of mine go by getting enrolled. They are having a hard time but actually know for sure that their great grandfather was Cherokee because a family member did find him on a census on the Cherokee reservation and he was born there. How would they also retrace the steps to finding that ancestor. Thank you

[@AncestryUS]

Your friend would need to contact the Cherokee nation to find out the requirements for becoming an enrolled member of the tribe.

[@commenthere3505]

Search Dane Calloway on here. He has a lot of informative videos and offers detailed steps to claim native heritage

[@melissabrackin3790]

Start with contacting the Cherokee Tribal Headquarters in Oklahoma. They possibly have a genealogy dept which can help you-

[@veryconcerned1556]

I'm doing my ancestry by the bottle to check also when u know there's no Asian in the family is that native American

[@Ken-wc7po]

that has been over amplified...atleast my paternal Q haplogroup was more towards Siberia

[@buffy377]

Please update this video

[@kyoung2918]

What if your tribe isn't one of the 5 accepted tribes? Where do you search for that?

[@phonicrose8395]

Tribe records, if your tribe had them, or state records.

[@nancyupthegrove-jaramillo227]

while researching I found birth certificates, of grandparents, while others in the book are listed as black or white, mine are listed as American... interesting..i also have questions on finger prints, skull shape, and teeth... from anthological view of things... these still show up

[@carlaephotography7096]

National Archives link does not work. :-(

[@AncestryUS]

Hey there Carla! Thanks so much for reaching out. We're sorry to hear you're having trouble in accessing the resources Crista mentioned on the National Archives site. We just checked the following link which seems to work, just in case you'd like to check that one. Thank you for dropping by! Link: www.archives.gov/research/native-americans

[@leotajackson5602]

I know this is old, but what happened to the rest of the tribes? There are many many more!

[@lorieovalle4288]

U say the 5 tribes that are reconized. What about apache and navajos?

[@AncestryUS]

Sorry if I was unclear. There are currently 573 federally recognized tribes in the United States. You can find the full list here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_federally_recognized_tribes What I was speaking of in the video is what is known as the "Five Civilized Tribes." You can learn more about them here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Civilized_Tribes

[@Ken-wc7po]

awesome what do you know..A Person who is supposed to be apache contacted me on a y paternal haplogroup site..but so far I only see cherokee native Americans in my family tree

[@beth3531]

@@Ken-wc7po the Cherokee were mainly in the south. Apache in the west. My ancestors were Cherokee and some Cheraw. My grandparents were in North Carolina.

[@janicec1196]

My husband's great grandmother and her family is listed on the Dawes Rolls (Cherokee). Under the column for blood, it just says AW for all of them. What does this mean?

[@CristaCowan]

AW means "adopted white." This is for those persons who had purchased citizenship or for those who had a treaty right to citizenship or had been adopted by the council.

[@larenzowesley30]

Five dollar Indian most likely

[@janicec1196]

@@larenzowesley30 that happened a lot, but in this case they were adopted into the tribe. Evan Jones was a minister who cared for the Cherokee on the trail of tears. He also translated the bible into their language. He and his family were given a roll number, but it only extended from him and his family to his grandchildren. It's a very interesting story. I was looking into this because Evan Jones is my husband's fourth great grandfather.

[@melissabrackin3790]

Adopted White-

[@FOXDUQUE]

Thank you

[@juliefarrell3957]

My people have been here from the 1600’s ...Whelchel

[@Kocho1234567890]

You're still an immigrant

[@MsSunmoon7]

MY Mother had a ritual that when she was brushing my long brown hair, she would whisper in my ear, "You're part Indian", & I would always have a big smile about it. But the odd thing which came to me a couple of years ago, & i never, ever heard her say anything about that to anyone else. In fact, we never anything about "Indians" back then. My parents didn't want other people to know that about us. You just didn't speak anything, not one word. I really do think it was her way of telling. I have more or less been fooling around with my family tree ever since the Movie & Book came out - Roots (1977). I have gotten with some of the name back to the revolutionary war but, I am still hung up on her. Her Mom rand off & left her, she is quite the puzzle I am working now. Barbie Dailey

[@brendawashington302]

So why talk about it know ?

[@littleonex378]

A lot of white people did try to claim indigenous ancestry by saying the grandmother was a Cherokee princess...

[@AnAdorableWombat1]

Black ones too. However a lot of white people do have native ancestry. Especially in Oklahoma (Cherokee) so yeah. Most natives weren’t screwing Africans 🤷🏽‍♀️ especially native men and African women

[@littleonex378]

@Miss Winchester they weren't screwing many white people too...there's many Cherokee due to the five dollar Indian 🙄 issue and because of the one drop rule I'm gonna leave it st that ..

[@AnAdorableWombat1]

@@littleonex378 no. White men were sleeping with native women… a lot. I’m a Hopi Tewa citizen. Please don’t debate me with my own history…you will lose

[@littleonex378]

@Miss Winchester please don't make it sound like native women chose to sleep with white men over black men . 😒 we all know how it went let not make it seem like it was a choice back then native women would of stuck with native men...yes you can be native ..yes Cherokee has lots of white people that's also do to the one drop rule . So someone could be completely black white yellow purple and have one percent indigenous blood and be considered native as far as Cherokee go

[@normaprice3472]

I researched the Dawes Cherokee rolls in Talequah Oklahoma and found my great grandmother, Nancy Hughes and my Grandfather Benjamin Franklin Hughes, why is this not in my profile as part Native American ?

[@AncestryUS]

Your "profile?" Do you mean part of your AncestryDNA ethnicity estimate?

[@_Boomstick357_]

Because Nancy And Benjamin paid $5 to be listed as native. 😂😂😂

[@Mojo-f8t]

Because your grandparents are 5 dollar Indians 😭

[@Ken-wc7po]

were they accepted.. some of my family was with land allotments records

[@_Boomstick357_]

None Applicable nah white boy, my family was here before you caucasoids came here, that’s a fact. So you and Karen need to stop trying to pull an Elizabeth Warren, stop appropriating folks culture, and take several seats.

[@latoshiaclemons7264]

THANK YOU KINDLY

[@ChristineRea]

I am looking for my 6th G Grandmother. People believe she was born in London, England. Her grandson and Great grandson said she was 100% Lenni Lenape. Her birthday shows she was born in 1674, however that might be what they believe to be her English birthday. Her English name before she was married was Mary Carlile. I don't know her Indian name. It was said that her father's name was Sachem. In doing research, it seems Sachem meant Peace Chief. The one Chief that stands out during that timeframe is Tamanend, though right now I can't prove it. She lived with the Quakers in Burlington, New Jersey, and married the 1st Quaker to come from England, Richard Haines who founded the area. You mentioned that if a Native married a white person, they would be included into the tribe. Obviously, the Dawes Rolls are not going to help me. What year were the Delaware absorbed into the Cherokee Tribe? How can I find my Native ancestor. I am not looking for enrollment, I am looking for truth. Would appreciate any help you can offer.

[@AncestryUS]

Hi Christine!! We're sorry to hear that you're having difficulty researching your 6th great grandmother, and we'd be happy to help in any way we can. Unfortunately however, the best that we can do for you when you are struggling to locate a record is provide search tips, as we are not able to search for records for you. This is because while we on support here at Ancestry are experts on the website itself, we are not professional genealogists, so even if we were to do a search for you we would not be able to verify that the information we'd find is correct, and this could lead to misinformation on people's trees. If you would like to read the articles we have which can help you to search on the website we've left links to them below: Getting Started, Lesson 5: Search Tips - support.ancestry.com/s/article/Getting-Started-Lesson-5-Search-Tips How to Search Ancestry® - support.ancestry.com/s/article/How-to-Search-Ancestry Overcoming Roadblocks in Your Research - support.ancestry.com/s/article/Overcoming-Roadblocks-in-Your-Research We hope this helps, but if you have any other questions for us, or if there is anything else that we can help with please feel free to get in touch via any of our social media accounts, or via live chat here: support.ancestry.com/s/contactsupport/

[@benm5182]

dawes rolls are good with butter

[@cheleftb]

Doing my tree and dna revealed so much. Everything hidden is coming out.

[@AncestryUS]

Hi Chele, thanks for stopping by. It's great that you are learning so much about your family history!

[@lindageorge1442]

My family goes back to 1819

[@narocks777]

grateful for this video

[@anncarson1180]

You said that the letter"w" would b circled by the head of household.does that truly mean they/he was native American. If so how does one get a copy of he cdib card.?

[@AnAdorableWombat1]

Yes. Unless they are on the rolls, they were not native. Even if they were white mixed with native, they’ll be on the rolls

[@patcheslove5139]

I seem to have a little bit of African American and ChactawaswellasCherokee

[@patcheslove5139]

I need to correct myself , the spelling is Choctaw as well as Cherokee & I believe the 1st couple in my family listed as Cherokee were adopted & not by blood . I am working on things to find out more information about all of this .

[@teresaham2002]

Hi Crista, I am working on my husbands family tree and we have it a brick wall with one of his ancestors. Her name is Hanna and we were told that she was Chorkee but the problem is we can not find a last name for her. How do we find a last name for her so we can continue our search ? We are stuck !!! Thank You

[@josecaraballo6326]

First get a dna test, just to mame sure in in the right place

[@popsreyes4835]

I need to find my great grandmother and also my grandmothers Indian but I don’t how to spell there names?

[@siouxgirl2703]

Does your mother or father kniw how to spell their mothers name??

[@sheriodell66]

I'm 3rd generation American Indian how do I find all my ancestors ? my ancestors are from the Dakota tribe I believe that's the name

[@CristaCowan]

Have you started a family tree on Ancestry yet? You start with yourself and then add what you know about your parents and grandparents. Then, talk to your parents (and grandparents if they are still around) and find out what they know about their parents and grandparents. Enter that information into your family tree. Once you do that you should start to get hints to census and birth, marriage, and death records that will lead you to even more discoveries.

[@kaydrelia48]

We did the DNA kits thinking it would come out mexican and spanish, turned out to be more than half Native American and even some Andes, which shocked all of us. We don't know which side or if it's both, but the grandparents didnt talk about it much. We came across pictures of great grandma living in a mud hut with her family, but otherwise, we are lost. Tried digging through census documents and such but can't tell which what's accurate and true for our family because we don't really know what we're looking for now. We know that our roots run DEEP in New Mexico and Colorado, but say our tribe is the Pueblo Indians, how would we know that for sure??? Sorry, we're just a little lost and in shock 😊

[@AMO683]

You can think of it this way, North America is a continent, "Native Americans" are the aboriginals of the land no matter where on the continent whether it be Canada, USA or Mexico. Everyone has their names for their tribes or groups. It's a rabbit hole trying to uncover all of it in most families due to native americans having less rights than anyone in north america. A lot of people would lie and say they were not Native american just so they could own land.( I'm sure its not that simple but I use that for an example of lesser rights) That in itself will pose problems in future research being factual.

[@og-greenmachine8623]

All BS... Google it

[@randystone5571]

My grandma s maiden name is edgemon Anna Mae,had a brother James bud edgemon ,married loyal Jennings Robertson my family hasn’t found anything out on daws report where would I start please

[@littleonex378]

That's because mexicos is a nationality not an ethnicity your ethnicity is indigenous to turtle Island yes you might have spaniard blood that's due to colonation .. I go by indigenous and mexican because lots of Mexicans don't understand that we're indigenous...

[@crept4698]

Am I the only Cherokee Indian here? ... :/ I was just roaming the internet and found this 😭

[@A_Moment_with_Milan]

I'm Cherokee and Blackfoot but unfortunately my family was one of the many genuine Native American families cheated out of the allotment and stripped of our culture.

[@brendawashington302]

Everyone on here is Cherokee. Lol

[@AnAdorableWombat1]

@@A_Moment_with_Milan Blackfoot and Cherokee don’t even Roam the same area. You’re not neither

[@melissabrackin3790]

Chickasaw / Choctaw here.

[@allincamo]

Is there a better website to date to use, and check. 2018. There has to be, any help ??

[@AncestryUS]

Jim, To clarify, are you asking if there's a better resource for the Dawes Rolls or are you asking about something else?

[@allincamo]

is there a web sight I can go on to view / investigate my family. Paid or free..?

[@AncestryUS]

Ancestry.com

[@elainegoad2111]

Dawes Military list: I researched Eliza Mae( Leader) Goad and her children because I wanted to find out how they got the Goad last name. She married an uncle in the later 1800's -- James Ledonia Goad out of Hopkins Texas and their children are listed as part Cherokee, Indian Territory, Oklahoma. I traced James Goad to a mutual ancestor who was the father of my ancestor Abraham Goad (early 1700's). Apparently, Eliza (Elizabeth)Mae Leader's father was part Chocktaw/Cherokee and her mother was Blackfoot/ Cherokee. We shouldn't romanticize Native Americans. Most large tribes had extensive territories and government prior to European Contact. They also had a matriarchal type government ( Meaning EQUALITY)

[@timothypullins9978]

Or they could have been reclassified as Black because some Indigenous skin was the same as people from Africa

[@ZenZone_Soundscapes]

According to the comments, there is no possible way a white person can be related to a native..haha.

[@sissie041570]

I am registered on the Dowes Roll my tribe is the chawtaw tribe my mother is also on there my great grandmother also this is all on my mom's side and my daughter just had ancestry done and it showed no native American

[@siouxgirl2703]

How old are you to be on the Dawes?? 😱

[@brendawashington302]

Are you vampires too , lol you’d be ancient.

[@AnAdorableWombat1]

😂😂😂😂😂 girl delete this! How are you on the dawe rolls?

[@carolynbohannon4602]

why do people spoils comments by using such gross profanity.

[@malcomshaw5962]

✌🏾😎

[@earlybrown7500]

5 dollar indians paid for it.

[@rayenmanuel8338]

Uuuuuugh