Using unethical Jailor tactics to catch the baddies! | Town of Salem 2 w/ Friends

Welcome to Town of Salem 2! Yes, that’s right, THE SEQUEL. This game feels like a prettier version of the first game, minus a few UI issues. There are a lot of hilarious animations now and we tried out a role called the Soul Collector in the last game! We had a blast playing and will definitely play again soon! Enjoy!!
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[@browncoatkevin]

Larry sure did a good job outing himself that Traitor game. If Pasta hadn't acted, he would have been voted right on up.

[@PersonOfRandomnesss]

I'm pretty sure he went under everyone else's radar: no votes against him, no one calling him out. Even Chilled, when they were both dead said he didn't think about it. He did out himself, but still went under the radar for everyone but Pasta.

[@chakitoooo]

Chilled is one of the smartest in the game, and even he didn't notice

[@x_Seven_Clowns_x]

I think Pasta didn't know either, she just did it for the bit.

[@jaderush4141]

@@PersonOfRandomnesss Pasta just came in real hot. Given another round or two people would have started to catch on. Ze is actually smart as hell too, he just needs a bit more incentive to pay attention

[@tylerprince6371]

55:43 I love that kara kept trying to claim exe with both NE's outted

[@KJYKJY1985]

I guess she figured out how bad they are at paying attention to the role list after the previous game where she was the only TS claim and they still weren't sure she was town.

[@ronaldking1054]

Considering she was on a team, even the one neutral evil(jester) was good enough. She was not just claiming that she was executioner, but she was also claiming that Xeen was a neutral evil as well as they were both on the same team by seer information.

[@a.v.y8331]

Chilled was DEEP undercover that game, he literally kept throwing sus on Kara and Xeen for being friendly and in my mind was very clear.

[@Scotty756]

The Dreamweaver betrayed him. Town traitor can't be dreamweaved

[@silentmayan5427]

​@scotttrainer466 The main issue was that Cheesy could kill if he were evil, Eme was a pirate, and 2 of the 3 dreamwoven people were still alive. If someone else were alive in Ze or Court's places then it would have been at least a 50/50 between that person and Chilled. Considering Chilled had cleared the madness and pushed 2 coven members he would have been permanently good if he weren't the only option.

[@tonfaman33]

I think Kara may have been confusing Voodoo Master/Tavern Keeper with Bodyguard

[@kentheboi978]

Tavern Keeper. They can't roleblock the same person every night. They can visit but on the second time it won't work.

[@FeyPhantom]

To add: witch also can't witch someone 2 nights in a row (it doesn't work) and Jailor can't jail the same person 2 nights in a row.

[@lucielm]

Yea, All Town Protectives can visit the same person every night except Trapper who can't because of their trap mechanics needing to be rebuilt.

[@ameliarose47]

To be fair TOS 2 changed so much shit that was different in TOS 1 that I don't blame them for getting confused. The game mechanics they knew for years are all of a sudden different with the same roles. Granted it's upgraded with snappy cut scenes but it's still confusing.

[@FeyPhantom]

@@ameliarose47 The best way to remember if a role can go to the same person on multiple nights is to ask yourself if you stop them from playing the game. You silence the other player making them unable to speak or vote during the day? You can't do it twice in a row. You roleblock them at night making it so they can't perform their night ability? You can't do it twice in a row. You protect them, but otherwise they get to perform their night ability and play during the day? You can visit as many times as you want. The changes to jailor, escort/consort (tavern/poisoner), blackmailer (voodoo), and witch were somewhat overdue so that players can actually play the game and aren't blackmailed the entire game or jailor doesn't jail the killing role until they find all the others of the faction.

[@Sybato]

I watched this from Cheesy's perspective and it was sooo funny when Chilled called out Cheesy putting a teammate in his will in that first game (5:30). He kept saying "Why did I do that?" for like a straight minute.

[@Dallows65]

Watching everyone conveniently miss that Kara claimed exe when the two neutrals were confirmed left me screaming internally

[@zura8879]

Legit had to scroll down after that moment. Like the Jester just showed up dead, Kara can't be Exe if Court is townie. I'm surprised Chilled didn't push it harder immediately after that.

[@memeyukikazoo]

When Ze asked chat in the beginning how they were doing and if they "needed anything", my brain went straight to Mean Girls. It gave "I'm not a regular mom, I'm a cool mom" vibes 😂 TOS 2 have been my fave videos lately!

[@ronaldking1054]

You realize that Larry was confirmed traitor. He was not hanged for shooting a town member as deputy.

[@DoomsdayR3sistance]

Larry mega outed himself, somebody for sure would have asked, "so you shoot a town and yet didn't die." Just wasn't given enough time for anybody to actually say that!

[@ameliarose47]

Seeing this comment I thought the town spent way more down time after this happened. Literally just long enough for the game to confirm that, yes, Larry shot a town and wasn't dead, and Pasta was all over this. Granted it could have just been her guessing but Pasta could have also just been big braining. Literally not even a full second went before that man was shot.

[@SindianStar]

I was confused why the last game seemed familiar... Until I realised I watched it live xD I remembered the "I'm doimg King shit" because I commented "Doing King shit on the royal throne" 😂

[@tylerprince6371]

In that first game, I figured the monarch was evil but wasn't sure who they were

[@facade11663]

your therapy jailer is having his license revoked: broke doctor patent confidentiality. Ze's Monarch: I'm going to knight a person I think is good and someone they hate. So they can fight for my amusement.

[@etanwa]

the worst thing about town traitor is that the traitor can full on play for town and win. no cooperation or interaction with the coven, just existing. if traitor is solo, it should be given a kill option and the game keeps its default "town wins if there are 3 days without kills" rule.

[@PersonOfRandomnesss]

I agree, we saw Chilled almost win with that during his tracker game, only being ousted by his helpfulness and everyone else being too clear, the only real piece of evidence is that it could only be him or Cheesy due to the dream weaver targets and Cheesy was the Jailor. And I agree with you second point, it just turns kind of into pointlessly dragging the game on with nothing happening when Coven (includimg traitor) can't kill. The traitor can have their alibi from before being able to kill, which can still carry them in the same way.

[@KJYKJY1985]

Does the traitor actually _win_ after the time runs out or does the game just end in a draw?

[@kurtmatteson4914]

​@@KJYKJY1985They outright win if they survive. It means that coven can just out themselves, and if the traitor lives, they win.

[@KJYKJY1985]

@@kurtmatteson4914 Then I guess it needs to be a standard practice in this game mode for the last surviving coven to out the traitor in their will so the traitor has an incentive to cooperate.

[@jaderush4141]

@@KJYKJY1985 ...what are you talking about. The Traitor cooperates with the Coven by default, they are literally the same faction. Why would they need incentive lmao

[@KazeKoichi]

God damnit. There was 3 day to find a traitor, the only 2 bad guys left were traitor and pirate, and they didn't hang someone once a day? That's either too ballsy or too indecisive.

[@tortillachips3911]

Definitely too indecisive

[@ShinobiRem]

I really enjoyed the rest of these townie games! Ze might not have been able to kill, but he definitely brought the entertainment as he protected the town and helped win several rounds! Ze's wills continue to be amazing, as he contemplated why he continues to guard Vik and conducted his research on each person he jailed, as well as executing those pesky Neutrals! I also loved Pasta taking out Larry after he outed himself as the Traitor Deputy, even if the rest of the lobby hadn't noticed he was evil quite yet, lol. That last round was the most exciting though and it was so cool to see how Ze helped find the Traitor by getting the Dreamwoven people to come forward for a clear! I respect the play of going deep undercover but sometimes it's just not worth it in the end, as Chilled sadly learned. The Town Traitor mode continues to be very enjoyable to watch and hopefully Ze will get to play the part himself sometime soon!

[@jaderush4141]

In the Jailor game I actually literally did a 180 at the last second and became convinced Kara was the last Coven. Why in all hell would she lay out the plan in which Ze jails Em and she roleblocks Apple and then go back on it and get Ze murdered?! That was sus as hell, bro. I'd toss her out in a second, props to Em for choosing correctly there In the last game Chilled's helpfulness ended up being his demise. He was too eager. No one keeps track of the Dreamweaver targets, Townies just let their fellow men go insane like normal people lmao In a sea of grey you shouldn't be black, but you sure as hell don't want to be white either

[@Sybato]

I was sure of that too, why didn't she roleblock Apple? Was it to confirm that she was bad by letting her kill? What if Ze had killed Em? It just seems weird to claim Tavern Keeper and then not roleblock.

[@Sogton23]

OMG YES I FREAKING LOVE TOWN OF SALEM 2 (i send my regards) nice vid ze

[@RyukagiRen]

maybe its just me but whenever i heard Town Traitor... i heard it as Town TRADER

[@kittyplayz1480]

That’s American accents for you

[@RyukagiRen]

@@kittyplayz1480 lul i tho there's a TRADER role in it and then like... what kind role is dat

[@larsfalck866]

Love seeing a new vid on my feed of TOS, especially from the king himself. Love your content Ze!

[@vader97100]

Poor Ze, I think besides Apple and Em he hasn’t gotten traitor yet. At least the guy has been killing it with crew.

[@melissatheviolinist]

Awesome timing. Was watching one of the many old TOS videos and as it finished I saw the new video pop up. Yay! I wish KZbin’s chat would have gifs so I could have the ”surprised Pikachu”-gif in every video. 💯

[@Waffl3B1T]

Heck yes!! Loving the TOS2 content still, thanks Ze!!

[@nessajean6504]

(I do have mints, coffee, and some Mexican sweet breads that'll go with my coffee) I always enjoy a good ToS2 sesh with this lovely group. Even when you have new people playing, it's awesome to see fresh meat, I mean, new people have fun. I always appreciate the videos you make, the content you put out there, and sending lots of hugs for Zelda and Hashbrown. Thank you, Zeeeeeeeeee 😊❤

[@RobotGirl]

At the point that you only have a the traitor, pirate, and a ton of town... and only 3 days to find the traitor... should you not just start throwing everyone out? you'll still have the numbers

[@usaidm.8264]

Yes. That's why in TOS 1 (where witch is a separate faction from mafia in the standard traitor role-list) witches would ironically have to hide the existence from both mafia (who witch wants to win with) and town. Alive witch would prevent countdown for the traitor, so mafia would rather target witch instead of allying

[@davideprevitera5537]

@@usaidm.8264 can you offer a role list it may have potential, so that they may try it

[@khalidfrancis6845]

Kara almost threw your Jailor round. She absolutely made that game harder than necessary. Lol

[@x_Seven_Clowns_x]

The 50-50 was between Em and Apple, mostly Apple but Em sussed Kara for the usual Em reasons which distracted them. So she focused on Em in case Ze didn't. If she had roleblocked Apple instead, they would not have had the confirmation. Ideally they would have just exed the one and hung the other if wrong but that required more coordination. If anything, it was almost an Em throw. Kara was TS (confirmed by Jailor) who outed a coven against a weak TI/late TS claim with no results against coven. The "no blood" claim was Apple's undoing. She had to pin it on Kara, if she had lead with "Kara has blood" and pressed harder on the Poisoner-turned-Necro angle, then Em might have thrown because of her natural paranoia about Kara.

[@khalidfrancis6845]

@@x_Seven_Clowns_x if Kara roleblocks Apple, Ze stays alive. Kara and Ze are confirmed crew. The next day, throw out Em and jail and execute Apple. A sure win

[@jaderush4141]

Hard agree, commented the same thing I was convinced Kara was good up until she laid out her plan for Ze and then backpedaled on it with the least believable excuse ever, getting the only actually hard cleared person killed Can't believe she wasn't bad after that, like what was the reasoning, it's just driving me nuts

[@Sybato]

Her will was so sus too since she claimed to roleblock two jailed targets.

[@tropezando]

That last game! Watching Chilled's triple cross double agent red string on a bulletin board strategies backfire because everyone knows him too well is just 🤌 lol

[@kiro9291]

5:39 haha! me 52:26 52:52 "ew" that ending was a plot twist for me

[@warrenwallsjr.2564]

Ze: "I'm boring"😳😂😂😂

[@ramsoofkyo9047]

one of best sessions of ToS >_

[@akumuryuu]

Yeah... final traitor is a confusing thing, there's nothing to go of, you just have to vote one player out without any sus.

[@PersonOfRandomnesss]

To be fair you can try and big brain and narrow it down by figuring out based on what other Coven did (Dreamweaver, Voodoo'd), but even then it can be fairly easily faked.

[@Scotty756]

There is clues though, coven can't Dreamweave the town traitor, so you know those who were Dreamweaved can't be traitor.

[@PersonOfRandomnesss]

@@Scotty756 Unless Dreamweaver takes a night off and the traitor claims to have been dreamwoven. They didn't in this game, but that seems very strong.

[@JanusKrug]

Last game was a nailbiter!

[@Bearded_Zer0]

Pun opportunity missed at the start. Should have titled that will "BodZeGuard"

[@aaronalkor]

0:34 Actually, Cheesy, because he commands multiple ships, would he not be a Commodore?

[@kyaujah]

6:26 "F is for friends who do stuff together..."

[@qberrygamz7049]

"U is for you and me"

[@sammich_uwu]

Admirer should really be a neutral role

[@davideprevitera5537]

that would be good , you gain the lover win condition

[@justanotherLunny]

problem is the survivor syndrome, where you don't have much gameplay because it's all about just staying alive. With the town-admirer, you're encouraged to keep paying attention so that you pick the correct person to protect and help on the voting, if you had an admirer going for coven or a neutral faction, you're not doing anything the whole match and just hoping you won't die.

[@davideprevitera5537]

not exactly, similar,but you need to help get t if town than you must protect them from evil and hunt the bad guys,if you he Nk or evil, you must help them not get caught ,your partner, helping them with a fake will and such. from the outside perspective it's not an insta kill for the jailor like the surv, you will lose a town if he chose the good guys, for evil instead it's juicy target if outed and a dangeer if left alone@@justanotherLunny

[@Lily-sh8jn]

That is just Guardian Angel, because the Admirer IIRC was confirmed to be what the devs thought of when they wanted to have a Guardian Angel but town aligned so it is not a kingmaker. I think it was the interview with Pipe, but not sure,maybe it was Ada.

[@kitmountaincat6102]

If vicram wanted to be cool he would have called himself lord captain of battleship it is far to late now because we all know zee is the lord captain of battleship!

[@bluedragonsden7222]

You're still using that description? I don't really mind the copy pasting but it's just false since it has parts specific to the original video it's from which aren't true here.

[@kitkatsinAlaska]

I haven't watched the video yet but uhh fun fact: JAMAICA is only country flag without red white blue

[@Jason-od8vu]

first

[@CrimsonPoseidon]

I really wish Vik would miss a few recording sessions, he’s just too much sometimes, okay in small doses not in every session.