USS New Orleans CA-32 - Guide 050 (Human Voice)

The USS New Orleans, a heavy cruiser of the United States Navy, is today's subject.
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[@Drachinifel]

Pinned post for Q&A :)

[@markmcgibbon7013]

Favourite colour

[@imergence9628]

How did naval gunnery practice work (mainly between 1914-45)

[@xxnightdriverxx9576]

Do you know how much of a problem overpenetrations were in real life? At the Battle of Samar, Japanese Battleships fired on destroyers and escord carriers and overpenned them. I guess this was a combination of multiple factors: the japanese thinking they were fireing at larger targets and having the diving shell system, which in itself makes a longer fuse delay nessassary. Now my question is how much of a problem were overpens in an "equal" combat situation, so a battleship vs battleship or cruiser vs cruiser engagement? Would a hit in the thinner areas of a ship (for example superstructure and bows - especially cruiser bows) always result in an overpen? How did different nations handle the problem? The fact that in the Battle of the Denmark Straight Prince of Wales was hit below the armor belt by a diving shell (that would have exploded before hitting the ship if it had not been a dud) seems to indicate that the Kriegsmarine had a shorter fuse delay, how did other navys handle this? And is it roughly known how many hits were actual overpens?

[@LiveErrors]

What is your thoughts om the B65 design, both in the context of a cruiser and in the context of the her intended role What about the (WW2) German Light Cruisers, where they good? Should they have build more of Them? Could they have scaled a Leipzig down to figure out their destroyer balance :9 And for something on the redicolous side, how about a Super Takao class cruiser with Triple turrets, Italien Armor, and German Machinery with the german Skills to appease the machine gods?

[@scottgiles7546]

I have noticed you are ignoring the question of "what-if Task Force 34 had been left by Halsey at Leyte Gulf?" Would it have been so one sided that no mention need be made? Were the 16" guns, and radar, that good? (The World Wonders...)

[@Bhoenix]

"Sir, the front fell off" "Just sail her backwards dammit"

[@Yukatoshi]

Could of been worse, his cock could of fallen off.

[@propellhatt]

That's very unusual, I'd like to make that point

[@MrMattumbo]

Must've been a hell of a workout for the helmsmen, holding a steady course over that distance going backwards had to have been a taxing endeavor.

[@bigblue6917]

See, that's why they told you not to undo that big nut on the bow.

[@bigblue6917]

@@MrMattumbo Well zigzagging will throw off the Japanese subs.

[@Boric78]

"And damage control grade 1 award goes to the crew of the Orleans!" Coconut logs, sailing backwards to Australia - Jesus. Hope that they had a great shore leave - definately earned it.

[@deltavee2]

They then sailed backwards across the Pacific to the U.S.!!

[@tclem14]

Alfredo Jonstone learning damage control was a fun time in training in the rcn

[@AdmRose]

Or at least something other than Spam

[@bigpeteswackshack4237]

My grandfather just turned 100. He was a a navy man for 8 years and Gunnery Captain of the USS New Orleans. He told me this story! And how they angered natives by messing with their pigs they thought were wild!

[@davidvavra9113]

A friend of mine was one of the Lexington guys she picked up. 17 then, he bought a Harley on his 90th birthday and still rides it in the summer, pushing 96 now. Quite a guy.

[@Islander0711]

As a retired veteran, I salute him, and all who came before him.

[@DuggageHu]

Is that 96 years, or 96 mph? :-)

[@timothyhouse1622]

New Orleans: "'tis but a flesh wound."

[@AdamMGTF]

I do wonder what they did in the engine rooms once all the "horse power" had been taken away. They can't sail a ship without having coconuts to bang together! Thank god they had spam, spam and spam

[@jkdm7653]

"Have AT you, Tojo!"

[@admiraltiberius1989]

As I said in the overview of the class video, the New Orleans class is likely my favorite ship class ever. Not only cause I'm from Louisiana but the class war record was interesting. The New Orleans herself had a war record almost without peer It's a tragedy that she wasn't saved for a museum piece. Lastly "Praise God and pass ammunition."

[@_R-R]

And notwithstanding that the class was perhaps the best Treaty (Heavy) Cruiser of the USN.

[@patrickmcleod111]

**I clearly recall how we weren't able to open the ammo lockers on that "infamous day" in late 41. I had just 2 days left until my official retirement from the navy, at 58 years old. Fortunately, I had just returned from shore leave, where I'd purchased a Daisy 'Red Ryder' BB gun, as a Christmas gift for my grandson, as well as several tubes of BB's.** No sooner did I step onto the New Orlean's deck from the motor launch, that a swarm of enemy aircraft launched their attack! I knew the ammo lockers werent accessible, but at that moment I looked at the BB gun package in my hand, and formulated a plan! After breaking open its packaging, I loaded it with BB's and lept into action on the ship's fo'c'sle! Although most people would doubt it, the fact is that BB guns are notoriously ineffective in the anti-aircraft role! That meant it requires AT LEAST 1-2 follow-up shots to destroy an enemy bomber or fighter! It was that limitation that drastically reducing my number of confirmed AA kills to just 12 planes in the first 20 minutes... Later, after running out of BB's, I switched to a more powerful, more effective AA weapon, a Crosman pellet gun! With its increased power and range, I switched my focus to the high-level Nakajima B5N "Kate" bombers, operating at 10,000 feet. I managed just 4 Kate-kills, bringing my personal AA total to 37 for the day. I only wish I could've done better.... I've devoted my retirement to exposing cases of "false Valor", to stop people who 'manufacture' exaggerated claims of military heroism! I'm aided in this pursuit, with help from many of my fellow WW1 veterans... 😂

[@williestyle35]

You mean "investigating" like Colonel David H. Hackworth?

[@turbowolf302]

in the words of her Chaplain, "Praise the lord, and pass the ammunition!"

[@eric24567]

Bow of the New Orleans gets blown off New Orleans: "hold my beer, and fetch me some coconut!"

[@seansd]

My grandfather served on this ship, he was stationed on the front but just before it was blown off, he had been reassigned due to an illness, to the back of the ship. He served all the way through and came home, had 5 children and over 40 grandchildren, and something like 150 great grandchildren. I’ve tremendous respect for these men who served so willingly. Sorrow for those who lost their lives.

[@googiegress]

That's a hell of a fertile family.

[@seansd]

Legend has it, that if the men in our family look at a woman for more than 15 seconds she is pregnant. If you were a female and reading this, you’d already be pregnant.

[@tater6124]

My grandfather was also aboard this ship.

[@russdority6295]

It's not a boat, it's a Ship

[@seansd]

@@russdority6295 thanks Russ.

[@oldscutterincolorado6948]

My grandfather served aboard the NO Boat for the entire war including the attack on Pearl. His battle station was inside the rear gun turret, he had some great stories and like many WWII veterans had a strong dislike for the Japanese until his death.

[@jonaslechat9472]

I have a question and I can't find an answer to, perhaps you would know: when and why was it nicknamed "NO boat"

[@deaks25]

Japan to New Orleans: Sink damn you! New Orleans: Na, I think I’ll just stay afloat. Japanese: We’ve literally blown your bow off!! New Orleans: So? I prefer to float, go away.

[@jonathanhorne6503]

My dad was an SOC pilot on the New Orleans in 1942. He left the ship the afternoon before the Tassafaronga battle. They moved as much of the flammable things as they could. All the planes and AvGas tanks were empty and vented. All the cruisers removed their planes that day expecting the night action. He was expecting to return and much of his personal gear sank with the bow.

[@FallingWhale]

My Grandpa was assigned to the New Orleans in the last month of the war as a radioman and he describes them bringing the ship into New Orleans harbor while shining the deck but running too close to the delta so the pumps just dumped mud all over the ship and they had to take it back out to sea to deal with that.

[@timcarpenter2441]

One cannot but love the American Captain, officers and crew for their attitude.

[@ShaneSelling]

Refresh subs, Drach, refresh Drach, and Drach, and Drach 😱

[@vaclav_fejt]

Spam and rice, just spam, spam and something, potatoes and spam, spam dumplings, spam spam spam!

[@scottgiles7546]

Is this where The Pythons "spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam spam, eggs and spam" came from. (not to spam you here)

[@Bird_Dog00]

I'm surprised they ran out of rice first... You know how it usually goes: Rice without beef, rice without shrimps or rice without chicken...

[@vaclav_fejt]

@@scottgiles7546 Yes. Also, the programming language "Python" is named after Monty Python.

[@DaveCovert]

My father's uncle was one of the 183 men killed when the bow was blown off. Quite the inconvenience...

[@rissa3163]

My great grandfather served on the USS New Orleans! I don't knkw too much but my grandpa told me that my great grandfather went overboard the ship once after getting into a fight with one of the crew

[@bullettube9863]

They used the coconut logs to shore up the bulkhead. Most ships carry big pieces of lumber for damage control, but the New Orleans had used up what she carried and they needed more. This was not the first time, not would it be the last time a ship had it's bow blown off and ran backwards back to port. New Orleans however set the record for the longest distance traveled!

[@jkdm7653]

Excellent! Thank you! No computer-generated narration OUTSTANDING!

[@lowellmccormick6991]

Thanks for this video. I'm from New Orleans and worked on the construction of the USS New Orleans (LPD-18) at Avondale shipyard in Avondale, La.

[@chemputer]

New Orleans: I'm an island! I swear. Definitely not a warship. Japanese: seems legit, let it by.

[@The-Ink-Dragon97]

My great Grandfather served on this ship. He had nightmares for years after the war about the Japanese kamikaze bombers.

[@googiegress]

Love to hear you share his stories, if you'd care to.

[@tater6124]

As did mine.

[@Jodonho]

2:45 rig ship for famine! Been there; done that. Watched 3 bean salad turned to 2 bean salad turned to....

[@comicmoniker]

Can you do a special covering the Macon and Akron at some point? I would love to see your take on these oddballs

[@paulwoodman5131]

Macon.... Rhymes with bacon.

[@thebudgieadmiral5140]

USS Macon and Acron guide? It would be interesting to see Drach cover an airship, especially since these two airships were under US Navy control.

[@michaelfuller2153]

That would be interesting. But they could never be...in Drydock.

[@RCAvhstape]

@@michaelfuller2153 Would have to call it The Hangar.

[@salfox1820]

Wow, 4 videos in a day? Bravo!

[@clearviewtechnical]

My wife's grandfather was a range finder for one of the turret guns of the New Orleans during WW2.

[@deltavee2]

Aussies: "Noice bit of work comin' in backwards like that. Betcha can't sail it to the U.S. that way." Orleans: Hold my beer....

[@DavidGoodwin-gv1yz]

My grandfather became the Exucative Officer of the New Orleans during, and after the repair of the bow. He was also the recipient of the Bronze Star.

[@its1110]

Oh. I'd missed the backwards sailing part in my readings.

[@lewisirwin5363]

3:58 "I'm walking backwards for Christmaaas!" - USS New Orleans, December 1942. Probably.

[@DickHolman]

Holding coconut palms over her head instead of a gas-stove? :)

[@MrArtbv]

It's pronounced MAY-cun.. as in Macon, Georgia.

[@Mishn0]

That SPAM, potato and egg Rubic's cube looks pretty damn good. A little Tabasco on top and I'm down for a couple of those. Oh, and it's "MAY cun", and the "S" isn't silent in "New Orleans" over here in the heathen colonies.

[@davidbarry494]

A story about the camouflage while they were at Tulagi. The brass wanted to know how effective it was so they sent out a scout plane. When the pilot got back they asked what the view was from the air. He said it looked like a cruiser with a bunch of shit on it. I assume the coconut log repair was hasten.

[@michaelfuller2153]

Interesting! My goodness...a bow made of coconut logs! The airship with the hook-on biplane fighters was pronounced "maycon"...but don't mean to quibble...excellent work as always.

[@matthewrobinson4323]

Excellent video, as always.

[@cjmarsh504]

I don't know why this ship wasn't a museum. Oh well, she would've been a great ship to tell stories about.

[@MrTurboTurkey]

It's tough but have you considered mentioning the cost of human life within these ships, maybe just for horrific event like the front 1/4 of the ship coming off. I thought it may add some gravity to what you are presenting. As always, fantastic work I love what you do. All the best

[@gkett1609]

thank you for all the work you put in these videos. i would very much like to see a video about the USS Ranger. it was an early design and on paper displaced tonnage that should have made it a front line ship in the Pacific yet it never left the Atlantic despite desperate need after the numerous aircraft losses in 1942.

[@Boric78]

Feck me, it must be Christmas, Drach has gone on a festive posting rampage. Totally filled my lunch time. Outstanding work, fella. And Happy Christmas.

[@w8stral]

My grandfather was in those battles in Solomon islands and he HATED rice/SPAM and NEVER ate either Ever again!

[@robertwyness2464]

Can You do one on the ship that never was? It was a island they made look like a ship off Scotland to trick German U Boats!

[@jacobwerner274]

Tis a Christmas gift from boat jesus

[@Feiora]

Bow gets blown off and some of the more energetic repair crew members are like "WE CAN FIX THIS! GET US SOME FLOATY STUFF!" And then...

[@lamonstra1464]

My uncle Ralph served on the Minneapolis and told me some great stories. I think that ship would be a good separate topic.

[@sovietpie]

with the front end off the new Orleans can comence rear-end retaliation

[@snakes3425]

(New Orleans gets her bow blown off) New Orleans (to the IJN): IS THAT ALL YOU GOT???

[@nonna_sof5889]

Ah New Orleans, no matter how many times it floods it never seems to sink.

[@KellyBlack-gz8gd]

My father served 42 months on the no boat. Never talked about much until his final year's, then that's all he talked about. Asked him this what scared him the most at battle stations (anti gunner) he said nothing you were to dam busy then you were numb and couldn't hear shit. RIP pop

[@RCAvhstape]

US Navy rigid airship guides, please! More people must be made aware the USN actually once had flying aircraft carriers.

[@donvasquez1791]

My Father served on the NO Boat in the EYE Corps 43

[@MechaWolf0]

Considering their proclivity for losing their bows, I surprised the class was not renamed Dullahan, Hydra, or the Black Knight. 😂

[@MakeMeThinkAgain]

Odd that you have the Truk raid (Operation Hailstone) following the Battle of the Philippine Sea since the chronology was actually reversed. These treaty heavy cruisers are a classic case of a weapon system that is not exactly first rate but still good enough to get the job done. Also, their pre-war training didn't much resemble their wartime service. The exception being the Battle of Surigao Strait.

[@thomas316]

You've been busy!

[@2854Navman]

Happy Holidays Mr Drach and family 🎅🎄❄

[@RobertIsrael]

Wow, all these people mad about the pronunciation of Macon, but didn't notice Drach's English was showing when first he drops the final S on Orleans at least twice in the video, and doesn't pronounce it "Nawalinz" or even "New Orlanz" once? :)

[@1894db]

3:55...... What? You can't just say something so insane so nonchalantly!

[@falcorusticolus4360]

Actually, Drach says things like that quite often. :)

[@tater6124]

You should have heard my grandfather talk about it. He said that on that island, everything was “four dolla”. He said “I bought a house for ‘four dolla’. I got on that ship to find out several other people had, too! The same house!”

[@ItsPaaat]

My great uncle was on the NOBoat for the entire war. He later became a chef and taught my dad how to fry spam to perfection.

[@MaxwellAerialPhotography]

It’s odd to see a ship run out of food in modern times. Usually it’s ammo fuel and water, in that order, that run out first.

[@bennygilardi3912]

Thanks for this. It's not easy finding information on New Orleans. Damn shame she met the same fate as Enterprise. Ever done anything on the Franklin CV 13?

[@808bigisland]

Spam and rice is a foodstaple here in the Pacific since 1940. Ggle Musubi spam. It replaced tuna, other fish and other foods which we cant afford now and the fish gets shipped to the UK for your sushi bars and dogfood while the transport is heating up the planet. Spam it is., thanks...

[@AdamMGTF]

Can anyone work out how many miles she did backwards? And Does this reduce the milage on the hull? Might have made her worth more on the post war open market 🤔 "For sale..One Cruiser. One careful owner. Suffered usual dings and dents associated with passing Japanese aircraft. Front end recently replaced. Low and errr genuine milage. comes with full service history. If asking price met. Gally will come stacked full of spam.

[@RayyMusik]

3:00 Rubik‘s Spam! 😆

[@paulwoodman5131]

Scrolled down to look for this one at 3:03. What cookbook did that come from?

[@TheFred10000]

You are spoiling us

[@leftcoaster67]

Ham, eggs, bacon sausage, and spam. Spam, spam, spam....

[@turbowolf302]

SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAMMITY SPAM

[@DickHolman]

Bloody Vikings!

[@w8stral]

My grandfather was in those battles in Solomon islands and he HATED rice/SPAM and NEVER ate either Ever again!

[@BlackFIFA19]

After almost 2 years its finally here XD

[@williamoleschoolarendt7016]

I have to ask why haven't you done a video about the USS Alabama? I've looked through your videos and unless I missed it which I doubt I didn't see a video about the Alabama! It's one of the few of her class left that you can actually visit and unlike the Texas the Alabama is well kept! She looks like she could steam out tomorrow and ready to go fight! I've seen both ships and I was kinda disappointed with the people taking care of the Texas! The USS Drum a gato class sits on side of the Alabama and you can visit her as well and she is also well kept and looks like she could sail out as well! I don't think that you have done a video about the Drum either? Anyway I'm just curious as to why? Thanks for what you have done!

[@jamesvandemark2086]

SPAM- made right here in Minnesota with pride(some say!). There is a SPAM museum. Come & visit if you dare.......

[@sugarnads]

USN: bows? We dont need no stinking bows! Damn the torpedoes full astern!!!

[@dmj92002]

Pronounced "may-kin" in US for Macon I'm pretty sure and only if you care - latecomer but a fan

[@garymckee8857]

Good information thanks.

[@VintageCarHistory]

"Shut up! Rice is off." "Well, could I have spam in stead of the rice then?" "You mean spam spam spam spam spam spam spam......."

[@AdmRose]

Hurricane Katrina obviously wasn’t a student of history or she’d have known that you can’t sink New Orleans.

[@daveshrum1749]

SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM !! ..... wait what were we talking about? I'm sorry I just had a Monty Python flashback🤪.

[@TheWareek]

just wondering would you consider doing a video on the USS Macon (ZRS-5)

[@GeneralKenobiSIYE]

*Jaws theme Plays Ominously*

[@snakes3425]

I have to ask if there wasn't a design flaw in the treaty era cruisers since nearly every wreck found is missing it's bow

[@googiegress]

Hits that penetrate armor could light off the ammunition magazine. I'd wonder whether it's a reverse survivor bias, where the ships that have have one end or another missing are the ones most likely to sink.

[@Bob.W.]

I occasionally eat a meal of spam. Always reminds me of Monty Python. :)

[@scottmccrea1873]

"Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam, SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAM!" "But I hate Spam!"

[@kidmohair8151]

may one make the assumption, because you mentioned it, that an airship guide will be forthcoming?

[@MidnightMoon2267]

I wonder if US cruisers still have the bow problem?

[@ethanhatcher5533]

If only the 9th Ward of N.O. had coconut logs

[@Dragoon-flys]

Could you review the Sangamon class specifically the USS Santee?

[@Silvah14]

Minneapolis next!

[@Maddog3060]

Apparently the British ain't the only ones who can snark a bit about an odd situation. ;)

[@MagnusVictor2015]

First Yorktown the Zombie Carrier, now New Orleans the Coconut Cruiser. What were they *teaching* them over at Annapolis's DamCon courses?

[@Talguy21]

Clearly only the best and most effective methods to stop a ship from sinking.

[@GeneralKenobiSIYE]

Never have their backs turned to their enemies so they can't be surprised. LMAO!

[@josiahricafrente585]

Spam spam spam spam spam LOVELY SPAAAAAM WONDERFUL SPAAAAM!!!

[@biscuitninja]

O'Bannon! Throws a potato in revelation!

[@JoshuaC923]

Sailing backwards all the way home, the French navy would be proud

[@jf5016]

Drach, weren't there other bow misfortunes such as Wisconsin and Minneapolis?

[@jeffjackelen744]

Yes Minneapolis lost its now. I seem to recall the Minneapolis B turret replacing the A turret on the New Orleans ( or was it the other way around?) In order to get at least one of them repaired quickly.

[@michaelfuller2153]

I believe the cruiser Pittsburgh lost her bow in a collision in some fog. Someone on the battleship USS Alabama spotted the floating bow and reported, "...have sighted suburb of Pittsburgh...." (Per Wayne B. on the bridge of the Alabama).

[@jf5016]

@@michaelfuller2153 These collisions amaze me. So many still happening. I'm an old sailor myself. Can't comprehend how this happens based on my experience with regulations and chain of command. Still we're dealing with human beings! In the case of the Wisconsin, she was involved with the scourge of the seas in the 1950's: the Eaton, DD510. Apparently they were cruising around in the fog? Somebody was going 20 knots (the Wisconsin?). The Wisconsin lost its bow (to be replaced with the bow of the Kentucky? She was just laying around for spare parts?). The Eaton damn near got cut in half. The Eaton's skipper was court martialed? Hmmmmm... The Eaton also hit a sub and another destroyer in its illustrious career fighting the commies in the 50's. I think the Eaton was the US Navy's #1 foe in those years!

[@jf5016]

Apparently, Pittsburgh lost its bow to a typhoon. Defective welds helped that process.

[@jf5016]

And the 104 foot section of bow floated around like a steel iceberg? Wow!

[@czechchineseamerican]

Can you do a video on the IJN destroyer Shigure.

[@MikeB071]

Spam and rice-oh, the horrors of war!!!!

[@Islander0711]

This would have been a good ship to display in New Orleans. Severe bummer

[@mysss29]

Not actually linked at the end of the video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qpDQiph_ds-iedk

[@SgtCandy]

4:44 is that a Nimitz class in the background?

[@RCAvhstape]

Didn't you see the film "The Final Countdown" starring Kirk Douglas? Of course the Nimitz herself was there in WWII. Adm. Nimitz had no idea his namesake ship would time travel back and lend a hand.

[@jkdm7653]

@@RCAvhstape Only Mr. and Mrs. Tideman know!

[@markrothkop7934]

What about the pc ships ( grandfather served on the pc 551)

[@its1110]

Lovely SPAM!

[@TheWareek]

wonder if one of the crew was responsible for monty python song of same name

[@RonJohn63]

1:05 pronounced "MAY-cun". (These comments are *not* criticism.)

[@RonJohn63]

@Ron Lewenberg those crazy Brits probably mispronounce "bacon", too...