Ustaše: Too Extreme Even for Hitler

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Into the Shadows

Into the Shadows

Күн бұрын

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@Alias_Anybody
@Alias_Anybody Ай бұрын
Every other Axis power and ally after WW2: Please look at Germany a little longer, there's absolutely certainly nothing to see around here.
@heavyartillery-qm5hu
@heavyartillery-qm5hu Ай бұрын
The Soviets as well.
@scifino1
@scifino1 Ай бұрын
If anyone hasn't had enough of that yet, I recommend they look up "Unit 731".
@Alias_Anybody
@Alias_Anybody Ай бұрын
@@heavyartillery-qm5hu I mean even the French didn't want too much attention on the collaborateurs and the Americans didn't appreciate you questioning the strategic value of the nukes.
@wolfcat1998
@wolfcat1998 Ай бұрын
​@Alias_Anybody or all those new government scientists with the funny accents.
@Alias_Anybody
@Alias_Anybody Ай бұрын
@@wolfcat1998 There's only one rule about paperclips: You don't talk about them.
@TheDigitalApple
@TheDigitalApple Ай бұрын
Fun fact: Despite how much Ante Pacelić voiced his antisemitism, his wife Maria was actually half Jewish…how ironic.
@NickyBlue99
@NickyBlue99 Ай бұрын
You can't be half Jewish. It's either all or nothing.
@Pixietitz
@Pixietitz Ай бұрын
Maybe she was another self loathing jew lol one of my ex's , his family were involved with running those camps. When I found out, knowing my own great grandmother fled Europe because of the persecution of her people... I felt very uneasy in that relationship. It wasn't the only deciding factor into why I left, but it sure did add to the reasons why I left 😅
@seanbigay1042
@seanbigay1042 Ай бұрын
Same as H.P. Lovecraft's wife.
@jackstraw262
@jackstraw262 Ай бұрын
Half Jewish = goy to Jews if it was the wrong half
@nb7466
@nb7466 Ай бұрын
Trump hates immigrants. His wife's one. No different
@markeeecmarkoni2855
@markeeecmarkoni2855 16 күн бұрын
As a Croat, thank you for making this video... the wars in Yugoslavia have a long history (several centuries) but the last 150 years are crucial and for there to be peace, one day everyone needs to admit their crimes...
@thegreatpugtato1823
@thegreatpugtato1823 Ай бұрын
Thank you for bringing this to us Simon and Co. It's important not to let the smaller countries and peoples who suffered in WWII be forgotten.
@keryeeastin4022
@keryeeastin4022 Ай бұрын
Well said ❤
@stevecameron1879
@stevecameron1879 Ай бұрын
This wasn't forgotten. There are many history books covering it. I guess you get all your history from the Internet
@thegreatpugtato1823
@thegreatpugtato1823 Ай бұрын
I can't read every book existence mate. I have a bachelor's degree (from Olivet university formally olivet college) in History but my specifics are in ancient history not ww2.
@merky890
@merky890 Ай бұрын
@@thegreatpugtato1823 U can't, but if u just watch videos and concoude based of videos content Your source of information will be 10% accurate and 90% false History is tricky and needs time snd different POV to make conclusion. Not just watching random video.
@Star207
@Star207 Ай бұрын
The Chetniks, a Serbian nationalist movement during World War II, committed numerous atrocities against non-Serb populations, primarily targeting Muslims and Croats. Estimates suggest they killed between 50,000 and 68,000 Muslims and Croats in regions like Croatia and Bosnia. Notable massacres occurred in places such as Foča and Višegrad, where civilians were systematically executed. The Chetniks aimed to create an ethnically pure Greater Serbia, leading to widespread violence and ethnic cleansing throughout the w
@jaylol7226
@jaylol7226 Ай бұрын
I am always glad to see people talking about this brutal piece of history that, in my experience, nobody really seems to know about. I think the Ustaše horrors should not be forgotten.
@promeneuzivotu117
@promeneuzivotu117 Ай бұрын
Yeah agreed.
@nerdslapper9361
@nerdslapper9361 Ай бұрын
And it is not.
@lemaicdjordje4705
@lemaicdjordje4705 Ай бұрын
only my grandmother and my father survived the slaughter... whole family tree gone! forgive yes but never forget....
@howlingwolf644
@howlingwolf644 Ай бұрын
If anyone knew about Bleiburg and what Tito and partizans (in colaboration with brittish forces) did after the war ended no one would be talking about this...
@lemaicdjordje4705
@lemaicdjordje4705 Ай бұрын
@@howlingwolf644 please dont compare bleiburg with crimes committed by ustashe! concentration camps , children concentration camp, hundreds of caves filled with innocent victims! we are talking of 500 000 killed Serbs Jews and Roma persons!! brute but still justice was served!
@davidcox3076
@davidcox3076 Ай бұрын
World War II in Yugoslavia was a complete horror. And too often missed when the war is covered. Thank you for helping bring this information to the masses.
@covakoma1064
@covakoma1064 22 күн бұрын
You should check 90' wars on Balkan and what they did in Ahmići, today they call themselfs western values...
@DoubleConcrete
@DoubleConcrete 22 күн бұрын
For what exactly, for talking a lot of shit with no historical evidence? Btw sorry to disappoint you but during the World War II yugoslavia didn't even exist.
@DoubleConcrete
@DoubleConcrete 22 күн бұрын
​​@@covakoma1064remind us how you got into Europe in the first place? Oh yeah, you killed all the Jews and Christians on your way from Arabia.
@BIGHEADjr51
@BIGHEADjr51 22 күн бұрын
Jesus how many people in this comment section are entitled like this and think it’s important for a dude w glasses to talk about something to like 50 thousand people. Let’s get a grip here social media lmao holy fuck
@fofizz
@fofizz 22 күн бұрын
@@DoubleConcrete it did but in 40s didnt ,
@hendersongalbreath1072
@hendersongalbreath1072 Ай бұрын
In before the comments turn into a Balkan nightmare.
@luckisluck
@luckisluck Ай бұрын
Youre too late.
@MasterShake
@MasterShake Ай бұрын
This is mild compared to any video relating to serbia lmao.
@bluewinterwolf
@bluewinterwolf Ай бұрын
Or a bad day in Bosnia
@lptotheskull
@lptotheskull Ай бұрын
"Oh come on, surely it can't be that bad-" GUYS IT'S THAT BAD
@hendersongalbreath1072
@hendersongalbreath1072 Ай бұрын
@lptotheskull /turbofolk intensifies
@frausteiner8615
@frausteiner8615 Ай бұрын
One of the worst aspects of how we teach about fascism is that we only teach the crimes of Nazi Germany. This makes people think that the Holocaust was a one-off thing that just happened because the Nazis were that unique. But almost every time a country has gone fascist, the result has been war crimes on a mass level. Japan, Croatia, Spain, Italy, Brazil, Chile, it's always been a disaster. People need to learn about the fascist governments of those countries too.
@Desert_Rogue_Tanker
@Desert_Rogue_Tanker Ай бұрын
It's also a left wing ideology.it just happens to be right of Marx,but not right wing like everyone has been indoctrinated to believe.
@Moravienis_dynasty4543
@Moravienis_dynasty4543 Ай бұрын
​@@Desert_Rogue_Tankerhere we go again with the Political Compass. You know how much I'd call that thing a Myth? VERY MUCH. It is Centrist issue much like every single concept of our time and History. The my methodics of N_zism do not come close to Right Wing or Left Wing for that matter. They use the Right Wing methodic of race superiority in survival while adopting Left Wing's methodic by being equal in race. Take it or leave.
@draco9513
@draco9513 Ай бұрын
Why does that really matter? Hitler is still a bad person.
@JustAnotherYouTubeCommenter
@JustAnotherYouTubeCommenter Ай бұрын
@@Desert_Rogue_Tanker bro actually called fascism a left wing ideology 💀
@END-S
@END-S Ай бұрын
​​@@Desert_Rogue_Tanker This is just objectively untrue, it's common knowledge that the Nazis were far right, they were an ultra conservative party. You're really showcasing your ignorance here. This is the same bs as idiots on the far right pretending that neoliberals are left wing. Seriously like man we're living in a post truth era here, don't be a fool
@MrGudis
@MrGudis 22 күн бұрын
My granny was a teenager in Dubica, small Bosnian town during the WWII. She told me that even SS were disgusted by Ustaše's horrors, and didn't want to have nothing with them. I can't imagine that. Even SS!!! 🤮
@meopen1888
@meopen1888 19 күн бұрын
Did your granny survive?
@MrGudis
@MrGudis 18 күн бұрын
@@meopen1888 Since she told me about that, obviously she did. She was a muslim, and Ustaše didn't attack muslims then. But, she almost ended up in a concentration camp... but that's a long story.
@MrGudis
@MrGudis 16 күн бұрын
@@meopen1888 Of course not. Her spirit told me that story.
@manbatluka
@manbatluka 14 күн бұрын
​@@meopen1888😐
@Mateo_Mikulic
@Mateo_Mikulic 13 күн бұрын
Baba ti je ocito komunjarka koja laze
@solvingpolitics3172
@solvingpolitics3172 Ай бұрын
Um, I think you mean he was born in “1889” not 1989😂
@BenjaminEaster-b8b
@BenjaminEaster-b8b Ай бұрын
What a scrupulously examinating optical eye you possess ❤
@PuffyPaulie
@PuffyPaulie Ай бұрын
Look.... Time travel
@jmace2424
@jmace2424 Ай бұрын
Time traveler. 😂
@solvingpolitics3172
@solvingpolitics3172 Ай бұрын
Well maybe he was a time traveler. Best known for saying: “I’ll be back.” Kind of like King Tut played by Steve Martin. “ Born in Arizona, moved to Babalona.”
@_Ben___
@_Ben___ Ай бұрын
Simon would never mispronounce dates in order to drum up correction comments
@marianneslade3296
@marianneslade3296 Ай бұрын
My father was 11 when the troops came into his village and destroyed his family. He was also a partisan fighting the Utase. The horror stories we grew up hearing. Thank you for this. He would be proud to know that part of his story is being told.
@thatmombielife
@thatmombielife Ай бұрын
So sad. ❤️‍🩹 prayers
@MMChoza
@MMChoza Ай бұрын
My grandfather was part of the partizan liberation army and the few stories I remember (I was 5 when he died but I remember some small parts) were horrible. Ustase came first to the villages and forced people to fight for them but he refused to. Only when partisans came and told they are trying to fight ustase, he told them from the 2 evils of war he will choose the lesser one (at the time)
@rogerhudson9732
@rogerhudson9732 Ай бұрын
​@@MMChoza No country started with hands dripping in blood can survive for long, applied to post-'45 Jugoslavija as much as the NDH.
@ado9170
@ado9170 Ай бұрын
but nobody talks what kind of crimes partisans did and how it's still influencing us. im croatian and there are partisans and pro yugoslav politicians promoting communism.
@Grouchy_M
@Grouchy_M Ай бұрын
So your father was 11 and he was partisan? The Partisans killed Croats-men, women, children, priests, and nuns. There are still living witnesses today. Your grandfather may have been a good man and did not commit those crimes, but he was a member of the Partisans, who were butchers and mass murderers.
@JasminMernica
@JasminMernica Ай бұрын
I‘m German and I know, if naZis say: „Well, that‘s messed up.“ than it’s really messed up.
@stipidman93
@stipidman93 22 күн бұрын
germans killed 1.4 yews with mobile squads, germans have no right to be shocked about anything
@davidbindis2555
@davidbindis2555 Ай бұрын
The Ustashe were also very smart. They would play the Axis powers against each other. They would spread rumours among the Nazis that Italian soldiers were seen walking with Jewis women. They would sew chaos just so they could have more autonomy among the Axis.
@fpsserbia6570
@fpsserbia6570 Ай бұрын
Well Italy wanted almost half of Croatia, so there is the reason
@b-art6098
@b-art6098 Ай бұрын
They were not "smart", they were butchers.
@lordhumungus1386
@lordhumungus1386 Ай бұрын
ustaše had in plan liberation of croatian parts that were under fascists occupation but italy capitulated soon enough.
@lCountMike
@lCountMike Ай бұрын
@@fpsserbia6570 They just wanted it back as they controlled it for several thousands of years since Roman times.
@szakachdekapolna4372
@szakachdekapolna4372 Ай бұрын
My grandpa was president of Ustaša youth in school.
@jokodihaynes419
@jokodihaynes419 Ай бұрын
"Would I rather be loved or feared easy both I want people to be afraid of how much they loved me"-Michael Scott the office
@Ivarevich
@Ivarevich Ай бұрын
I always thought a dark comedy about a middle east dictator with Michael Scott's personality would be great.
@lillystern
@lillystern Ай бұрын
​@@IvarevichI'm watching!
@Ivarevich
@Ivarevich Ай бұрын
@@lillystern I just imagine him on trial for war crimes and he's making crude jokes. . . "We have HARD evidence that your regime used white phosphorus against civilians..." "That's what she said..."
@atlhawks4200
@atlhawks4200 21 күн бұрын
A brox tale says it better
@irinapejovic
@irinapejovic Ай бұрын
Thank you for covering this, my family was killed in Jasenovac, my gran gran mom was pregnant when she was killed. No one is talking about what happened there. Till this day we dont know where are bodies
@-bikozuka-951
@-bikozuka-951 25 күн бұрын
Nije ni deset iljada ubijeno
@oceanaoushn8803
@oceanaoushn8803 24 күн бұрын
I believe that your family has never found/retrieved her body, which is dreadful. However ..claiming that no-one is talking about what happened there ...are you sure of that? How old are you? 20? After all, you might have heard of Milorad Pupovac who made political career in Croatia by always talking exactly about Jasenovac. ------------ In any case.. absolutely horrific for your GrandGrandMother (prababa?) being taken to the concentration camp and destroyed there.
@ivanlazarevic78
@ivanlazarevic78 23 күн бұрын
@@-bikozuka-951 koliko ljudi je malo za ubiti po tvom kriterijumu?
@-bikozuka-951
@-bikozuka-951 23 күн бұрын
@@ivanlazarevic78 brašo u Jasenovcu je ubijeno ako 10 iljada ljudi, nema dokaza za ubijene u onoj knjigi se ista imena pojavljuju i ima imena od ustaša koji su umrli poslije rata, u toj knjigi je ime mog dida koji je dan danas živ, nema grobova nema nikakvih dokaza, to je mit jer pobjednik piše povijest
@krunobrzi666
@krunobrzi666 23 күн бұрын
Svaka rasprava o Jasenovcu je besmislena jer on nikada nije istražen... čista mitologija... broj žrtava je višestruko uveličan, dok masovne grobnice i jame sa tisućama ubijenih Hrvata nakon završetka rata su pronađene od Like, Žumberka, Slovenije pa sve do Austrije... o tome ne govorite...
@kn1ght_ch3f78
@kn1ght_ch3f78 Ай бұрын
This and the Rape of Nanking. Insane.
@simonkevnorris
@simonkevnorris Ай бұрын
I think you could add Katyn Forrest as well. The Soviets killed around 22k of Polish Officers and leaders. The Soviets blamed the Germans but the truth was revealed as part of the break up of the Soviet Union.
@Nick-rs5if
@Nick-rs5if Ай бұрын
@@simonkevnorris There's also those minor, tiiiny little events known as Dekulakization and Holodomor... How the general public isn't taught about this in school is beyond me. Stalin killed more people than Hitler did, and under just as horrendous conditions. Granted, Stalin did live a bit longer, but that really isn't an excuse.
@67marlins
@67marlins Ай бұрын
​@@Nick-rs5if Good points. It's illogical that coward apologists pretend stalin wasn't worse than Hitler.
@chemistryofquestionablequa6252
@chemistryofquestionablequa6252 Ай бұрын
​@@Nick-rs5if they're not taught them because our educated system is run by communists. They wouldn't teach anything that makes them look bad.
@chemistryofquestionablequa6252
@chemistryofquestionablequa6252 Ай бұрын
​@@Nick-rs5ifour education system is run by communists, they're not going to teach anything that makes them look bad.
@snakebitepellehue
@snakebitepellehue Ай бұрын
I'm part German and part Croatian. I'm 100% familiar with the Holocaust and not one bit with this, because apparently the denial is astounding. Thanks for educating.
@RPcropland
@RPcropland Ай бұрын
I've seen this youtuber regurgitate propaganda, not saying he is lying intentionally, but maybe its just that.
@dannydetonator
@dannydetonator Ай бұрын
@RPcropland I see you wouldn't recognise propaganda if it splattered you in the eye
@davecopp9356
@davecopp9356 Ай бұрын
@snakebitepellehue You are for sure not 100% familiar with anything in history back than. You just think you are because you watched a few movies and so called documentaries.
@garymitchell5899
@garymitchell5899 Ай бұрын
Not being aware of something isn't denial. Read more books.
@lordhumungus1386
@lordhumungus1386 Ай бұрын
you can learn something more,like try learning how many lies and fabrications are out there about ustaše made up by yugoslavs and serbs. sheep.
@dezurniprovokator373
@dezurniprovokator373 23 күн бұрын
I cannot understand why it is always kept quiet that Bosnian Muslims were part of that Ustasha fascist state?
@sreckosoic2403
@sreckosoic2403 19 күн бұрын
Yes, they also had a good reasons to be part of it because of Serbian crimes against them during the history. In Podrinje during WW2 were more than 100 thousand muslim victims, killed by Chetniks.
@FaliLiva
@FaliLiva 18 күн бұрын
Also i cannot understand why there is no documentary about serbian cetniks war criminals who did genocide in all over balkan i dont understand why why
@dragoslavauseinovic
@dragoslavauseinovic 13 күн бұрын
Svakako nisu etnički čistili stanovništvo i otvarali logore, a da i ne pominjem jame po Bosni pune kostiju. Tuđi zločini ne opravdavaju tvoje. ​@@FaliLiva
@Michael_NV
@Michael_NV 2 сағат бұрын
@@FaliLiva Most likely because their crimes are uncomparable smaller then croatians, but they will also be done one day.
@ComaDave
@ComaDave Ай бұрын
In addition to Spain and Argentina, many of them escaped Down Under. It was fairly common local knowledge in the 1970's that many of them were still living only a couple of suburbs from me.
@clairegaspersic2182
@clairegaspersic2182 Ай бұрын
My grandfather moved to Aus in 1945 after everything that happened in Yugoslavia
@BWater-yq3jx
@BWater-yq3jx Ай бұрын
Yeah that sounds like our immigration standards.
@nelgluhak6709
@nelgluhak6709 25 күн бұрын
And of course, during the recent presidential elections in Croatia, Croatian immigrants in Australia overwhelming voted for the most fascist candidate 😂
@anteveic327
@anteveic327 20 күн бұрын
@@nelgluhak6709 there was no fascist candidate
@karlotolic8523
@karlotolic8523 Ай бұрын
As a croatian thanks for picking up the topic. It's still far to unknown here and in europe
@phreak2day
@phreak2day Ай бұрын
What do you mean? It's standard material in elementary schools in Croatia. Unless you're living outside of Croatia this is really common knowledge
@Grouchy_M
@Grouchy_M Ай бұрын
As a Croat, I tell you that you should be ashamed; you better learn something about the history of your people and respect the suffering they endured. Do not accept the lies that the Yugoslavs and partisans spoke to cover up their crimes against the Croatian people.
@okipullup6316
@okipullup6316 Ай бұрын
​@@Grouchy_M "laz" da ste ubili 100 hiljada ljudi???
@UnbrokenBeliever
@UnbrokenBeliever Ай бұрын
@@Grouchy_M Trying to justify the crimes of your Ustase forefathers? SMH
@NationContra
@NationContra Ай бұрын
​​@@Grouchy_Mand what exactly do you respect in this video? You do realize that Yugoslavian war was in the 90s and this was ww2 go touch grass Croatian smurf 😂
@nickristi1690
@nickristi1690 22 күн бұрын
Thank you for highlighting this horrible ( neglected and forcebly forgotten genocide over Serbs living on the territory of now Croatian state. If nothing else, those victims deserve respect and remembering.
@gurururuwarararara8164
@gurururuwarararara8164 Ай бұрын
Someday, somehow, I'm gonna catalogue every one of this guys numerous channels. Gotta be at least 20 by this point
@kasahadragon9499
@kasahadragon9499 Ай бұрын
Some he stopped hosting as they weren't his but he keeps developing his own versions of them so who knows where it will end 😂
@boboman67
@boboman67 Ай бұрын
I worked at a place with a Montenegroian, Serbian and Croatian collauges, one day the Serb and the Croat had a dispute, the Serb called the Croat an Ustaše, oh boy they where about to rip each others heads off, we had to intervene, god thanks they settled down and became friends again later that day (Funny was that the Serb told us never to really thrust a Montenegrian, then as he said “They fell on us in the back on the blackthorn plain” (the Montenegroians gathered the Turkish army against the Serbs) but come on that was in 1389 so long ago, but not even that was forgotten, so Ustaše soldiers cruelty is probally still not forgotten.
@C12341
@C12341 Ай бұрын
I had a similar experience working with Albanians and Serbs. They were all great people individually but if they were around each other too long it would sometimes get heated.
@vincenzofranchelli2201
@vincenzofranchelli2201 Ай бұрын
​@@C12341serbians and albanians will never ever be able to get a long. that nationalist goes so deep its hard coded in the dna by now, ironically enough the dna is usually a mix of both anyway lol
@ACACARRR
@ACACARRR Ай бұрын
There are things that cant and must never be forgotten. If there in future only one single serb remain he must not forget!
@Yeehaw_yippie
@Yeehaw_yippie Ай бұрын
As a Serb, it always amuses me how much my people hate others for something they couldn't control back in the day 😅 not the citizens' fault
@ACACARRR
@ACACARRR Ай бұрын
@Yeehaw_yippie Lakoje tebi da palamudis. Sta da su ti siptari ili ove ustase ubile nekog bi ti i dalje bilo zabavno?
@Observette
@Observette 27 күн бұрын
My great grandfather was killed in Jasenovac. At first, he was lucky enough to escape but was so shell shocked and brain broken that he believed returning and asking forgiveness would save his wife and children. So he went back and was killed a few days later. His wife and kids survived by running and hiding.
@crnabetty5891
@crnabetty5891 Ай бұрын
As a Croatian,thank you for showing monsters that some patriots think we should respect...added note:you need someone from Balkans to teach you pronaunciations
@user_0231-j
@user_0231-j Ай бұрын
this has been proven to be cheap serbian communist propaganda to discredit any future croat state this theory was popularized during the croatian homeland war, crimes did happend of course but not as described
@casinodelonge
@casinodelonge Ай бұрын
He's not great at pronunciation to be fair.
@Pixietitz
@Pixietitz Ай бұрын
Croatian names in general are pretty hard to pronounce the correct way as an English speaker. I knew a lot of croatians where I'm originally from & it took me longer than usual to get words right in their language.
@DenofLore
@DenofLore Ай бұрын
He’s British. Unless the place he’s covering has shit food or expensive spices he doesn’t care.
@crnabetty5891
@crnabetty5891 Ай бұрын
@@Pixietitz most of our names end with ć. Thats a [ch] sound.Names are not that difficult.Also Jasenovac does not make a [dj] but I do understand that no one gave him the proununciation guideline. UstašE,not Ustašy.So,E as in lemonade. He lives two countries from us.We are all slavs,we speak very simmilar.
@CharlieTheAstronaut
@CharlieTheAstronaut Ай бұрын
A uncommonly level headed and unbiased account of Balkans history. Thank you.
@monikamatas9340
@monikamatas9340 Ай бұрын
I am Croatian & thank you for covering this, people need to know the truth
@kiksonmartinec9656
@kiksonmartinec9656 Ай бұрын
That is not the truth!..Što nam nedaju prokopat jasenovac..pa nek se sazna istina..a ne pričat na orazno partizanske pričice
@conesmoker9963
@conesmoker9963 28 күн бұрын
I haven’t met a Croat who doesn’t know about the ustaše
@stipidman93
@stipidman93 22 күн бұрын
glupača
@fofizz
@fofizz 22 күн бұрын
Ustase and cetniks did the same thing, alot of massacres
@antepilic7422
@antepilic7422 18 күн бұрын
I agree, but this has little to do with it.
@gailkarran3395
@gailkarran3395 Ай бұрын
I visited Croatia, Bosnia and Montenegro 3 years ago. That pain is still raw.
@tomcwenkala8718
@tomcwenkala8718 Ай бұрын
A friend served in Bosnia. The guys he was imbedded with went into a cemetery and started digging. He figured they were uncovering an arms cache. They broke open the coffin and urinated into. Corpse was on the wrong side in WWII.
@ficalino7294
@ficalino7294 Ай бұрын
That pain there is not due to WW2, but due to atrocities commited by Serbs in breakup of Yugoslavia.
@oofoof1206
@oofoof1206 Ай бұрын
@@ficalino7294good one American, in montenegro there is 0 pain, in croatia and bosnia there is pain from all 3 sides, because it wasnt the devil serbs vs saint croatians and saint bosniaks, it was a free for all to seize more land
@Kenji-117
@Kenji-117 Ай бұрын
Montenegrian here. My mothers family (grandparents and uncles/aunts) lived in kosovo since the 70s and my mother was raised and went to school there. In 2001 my grampa refused to leave kosovo behind to escape with all my family from the serbian radical čedniks and was therefore rounded up with all my uncles who were still living there to stand next to a wall. The serbian čedniks shot him in the head and then forced my uncle Kajo who was 12y.o at that time to take a pistol barrel into his mouth to scare him with a near-death experience. This incident traumatized him severly back then and he never fully recovered. Thank god my mom already lived here in germany at that time because she emigrated just like most of my family. All of this happened only because we were muslims and despite being of slavic blood.
@oofoof1206
@oofoof1206 Ай бұрын
@@Kenji-117 četniks in 2001? You sure it wasnt the remenants of the UCK that learned you were montenegrin and not albanian, the UCK still made chaos in the KFOR regions, even shot a bulgarian civilian because he was not an Albanian and they assumed he was Serbian
@FrankGhal
@FrankGhal Ай бұрын
The craziest is most people have sympathy for japan and the emperor never got punished for crimes more brutal than the nazis
@haruhisuzumiya6650
@haruhisuzumiya6650 Ай бұрын
No thanks to the USA deal with Unit 731
@waffleenjoyer-re3pg
@waffleenjoyer-re3pg Ай бұрын
crazy how he can get away after nanking
@ChannelFish279
@ChannelFish279 Ай бұрын
The emperor Hirohito had no power and knew absolutely nothing about these issues also he was threatening with brutality by the TOJO supporters who were truly the ones behind the scenes making all the big decisions, infact when Hirohito did try and finally stand up for himself Tojo and his supporters attempted to OVER THROWN HIM!!!
@markocicic4495
@markocicic4495 17 күн бұрын
As a Croatian I can say that, unfortunately, many people are unaware of our dark history to the point they are glorifying ustashes as true Croatian liberators & completely denying the fact they were supported by nazis. On top of it, as you've mentioned, their legacy continued all the way to 90s. On 1 side people were frightened by Croatians been ustashes but that propaganda did spark the idea in heads of croatian ultra nationalists who seen this as an perfect opportunity to raise that dark legacy once again. Every war is brutal, evil & terrible. It's a compilation of horrors & terror that haunt those who survive it. In the ww2 all sides committed war crimes. In 90s also all sides committed them. The only lesson is - know your history, make sure most people know it too thus, hopefully, in the future, we might prevent those monstrosities ever occur.
@casinodelonge
@casinodelonge Ай бұрын
The Balkans, the gift that just keeps on giving.
@paulgoodridge2269
@paulgoodridge2269 Ай бұрын
@@casinodelonge also the Balkans. We hate each other just as much as we hate outsiders.
@simonriley4131
@simonriley4131 Ай бұрын
The Balkans was also the place of the partisan movement, a multi-ethnic and progressive mass movement and also the most efficient resistance and guerilla movement in all of World War Two that managed to defeat the Germans, Italians, Bulgarians, četniks and the ustaše all with little help from the west. That doesn't fit your condescending narrative of the Balkans as crazy rednecks constantly slaughtering each other, though
@thebatchicle3429
@thebatchicle3429 Ай бұрын
@@simonriley4131the partisans then won, united the Balkans… and then they all started killing themselves again in the 90s :)
@Kenji-117
@Kenji-117 Ай бұрын
​@@simonriley4131yep the balkanian partisans were the vietcongs of the west. They didnt let anyone invade and take over their home in the past century
@lCountMike
@lCountMike Ай бұрын
@@simonriley4131 Not more and even less than lest of Europe, Just look at history of Britain, France Germany, Italy, Spain and others, Check out how many civil wars were in Britain, much more than in Balkans.
@artgreig7069
@artgreig7069 Ай бұрын
We suck as a species
@benjaminollis
@benjaminollis Ай бұрын
We cannot fix ourselves, trying only leads to atrocities..
@wolfcat1998
@wolfcat1998 Ай бұрын
We suck as a genus. Makes me ashamed to call myself Homo.
@daveanderson3805
@daveanderson3805 Ай бұрын
It's because we're predators. We didn't get to be at the top of the chain by being nice
@milanmaletic3997
@milanmaletic3997 Ай бұрын
@@benjaminollis You, Sir, have won the Edgiest Comment Of The Day Prize. As something of an edgelord myself, I salute you! o7
@Kinzarr4ever
@Kinzarr4ever Ай бұрын
I understand the despair and frustration, I've felt it many times myself. But despite the depths humanity can sink to, I like to remind myself the heights can be pretty impressive too. For every Pacelić, there's an Oskar Schindler, somewhere, just to name an example
@mrgreenfull3897
@mrgreenfull3897 Ай бұрын
Bob Dylan said in 2012.: "Just like Jews can sense Nazi blood and the Serbs can sense Croatian blood.”
@jovan9989
@jovan9989 23 күн бұрын
I thought that was just some clickbait bs but this actually happened.
@nwvfd22
@nwvfd22 Ай бұрын
I've been waiting for an Ustase breakdown since the Warographics Yugoslavia video. Finally we get that piece. Thank you Whistlerverse writer Olivier for going at it!
@MrBjanders
@MrBjanders Ай бұрын
Simon always knows how to get me into the Christmas spirit 🎄
@sneky3327
@sneky3327 27 күн бұрын
Croatian here, and I remember that my History Teacher telling us once that Hitler called Human rights Violations on Ustaše for what they were doing 💀
@alleks1989
@alleks1989 Ай бұрын
Thanks for putting some light on this topic, Fact Boy! My grandma and her 2 siblings were taken by Ustaše and placed into "re-education camp". they were the only ones to survive, from the family of 11. The other grandma had her whole village forced into the Orthodox church and burned alive. Dozens of her family members perished, four of them were not in the village at the time. Some estimates state that about 700 000 Serbians were killed in Croatia during WW2. None of it was addressed after the war to keep the peace between the nations and unfortunately it bubbled back up 50 years later. Again, we didn't learn anything and it will happen again. "Balkan" is not a geographic term, it's a diagnosis.
@thatmombielife
@thatmombielife Ай бұрын
That’s so so sad.
@hapobelle
@hapobelle Ай бұрын
I remember a friend telling me that his grandparents told his mother who was around five years old while WW2 that Ustaše gathered all Serbs from a village aroung Pakrac in Orthodox church and burned the church with people in the church.Grandparents were Czech ethnicity and they made a comment to friend's mother : "Serbs will never forgive them."
@alleks1989
@alleks1989 Ай бұрын
@@hapobelle It aledgedly happened dozens or even hundreds of times. We will never know exact numbers. This happened in Kordun region.
@aaronosrs
@aaronosrs Ай бұрын
Truly terrible - I know many Serbs (from Croatia) who suffered identical fates. I think the 700,000 was an ultra-nationalist fabrication, I recently read Antun Miletic and he seemed to agree with the findings of Ivo and Slavko Goldstein (dont quote me but I think its 250,000). Antun Miletic can still say some controversial things outside of his scientific research but his work is impressive for its accuracy and commitment to historiography.
@alleks1989
@alleks1989 Ай бұрын
@@aaronosrs oh I agree 700 000 is a bit high. It was calculate according to census before and immediately after the war. Some were taken for forced labour to Germany, some escaped to Serbia. In any case, on a pupulation of 3.5 million any number in that ballpark is tremendous.
@Xanthippaa
@Xanthippaa Ай бұрын
In the early-mid 1980s in Canada, I met one of thee guys, hiding out here in Canada (I was just a kid then). I don't know why, but he took me into his confidence, showed me photos, scared the **** out of me. Did not share any of this with his own wife and kids...
@bljet4388
@bljet4388 Ай бұрын
What the hell was the reason he showed you those
@matthewgillies7509
@matthewgillies7509 Ай бұрын
@@bljet4388 I would suspect he had no other confessor, and felt compelled to tell someone, anyone.
@Auroraeevee-m1q
@Auroraeevee-m1q 24 күн бұрын
Sometimes, it's easier to share something like that with people who don't know you as closely as your family members do. It's also easier to share with someone who you sense won't be judgemental or critical of you.
@draganostojic6297
@draganostojic6297 24 күн бұрын
Now the next question is how come he was admitted to Canada? Turns out British and therefore Canadians knew about former Nazis (Ukrainians, Croats etc) immigrating and kind of turned a blind eye perhaps because of Cold War. Most recently a Ukrainian SS member was applauded in Canadian Parlament (Trudeau Liberals have a lot of Ukrainian support). Then it was a scandal when Jewish activists found out who that person was and made it public.
@draganostojic6297
@draganostojic6297 24 күн бұрын
Now the next question is how come he was admitted to Canada? Turns out British and therefore Canadians knew about former Nazis (Ukrainians, Croats etc) immigrating and kind of turned a blind eye perhaps because of Cold War. Most recently a Ukrainian SS member was applauded in Canadian Parlament (Trudeau Liberals have a lot of Ukrainian support). Then it was a scandal when Jewish activists found out who that person was and made it public. It’s sickening.
@philosophyofmany4317
@philosophyofmany4317 Ай бұрын
May those who lost their lives rest in peace and may God bless their families.
@ashishjoshi8148
@ashishjoshi8148 Ай бұрын
In a war littered with some of history's worst figures, known for their barbarity and brutal human rights abuses, the Ustashe were easily the worst.
@Rondigity92
@Rondigity92 Ай бұрын
Imperial Japan was pretty darn close... crazy to think that the Nazis weren't the worst regimes. They just happened to attack a country people cared more about in France and Britain
@InquisitorXarius
@InquisitorXarius Ай бұрын
@@Rondigity92 Its just Japan, not Imperial Japan. I do not see the two as any different given their genocide denial and honoring of war criminals.
@RobertHosein
@RobertHosein Ай бұрын
Idk if I would say "easily" the worst. They certainly were among the worst but id say the Nazi regime was the worst. The Ustashe was inspired by Hitler's policies. Adolf Hitler and Nazi Germany also did start world War 2, the most destructive and genocidal war in human history,
@firey7710
@firey7710 Ай бұрын
@@RobertHosein nah japan is the number one country in terms of brutality and cruelty against the chinese, pow's, koreans and south east aisa the nanking massacre unit 731
@saucy743
@saucy743 Ай бұрын
"Fun" fact: The Ustaše's doings were in fact so horrible, even the SS told them to chill the hell out.
@redjirachi1
@redjirachi1 Ай бұрын
The Nazis being shocked by the Ustase is a classic Lawful Evil v Chaotic Evil moment
@stipidman93
@stipidman93 22 күн бұрын
germans killed 1.4 yews with mobile squads, germans have no right to be shocked about anything
@freakygardener8033
@freakygardener8033 Ай бұрын
WOW!!! I fully admit, I know very little about history, but I had NEVER even heard of this group, before seeing this video!
@promeneuzivotu117
@promeneuzivotu117 Ай бұрын
Look up a video from Disturbian History.He made a great video talking about the crimes of this group.
@arahni1812
@arahni1812 17 күн бұрын
Then when serbian people fight back im the 90's finallyyyy we are Genocidal people. That is the brutal truth and European "justice" for just being orthodox christians and serbs. That was our fault.
@israelizzyyarrashamiaak766
@israelizzyyarrashamiaak766 Ай бұрын
I was just showing my kids an old geography book from 4th grade. My youngest said “ what is Yugoslavia mom” so we had a lesson in the reason the map changed. I love looking at old textbooks and I’m shocked at how pathetic education is today!
@bulajiclazar8445
@bulajiclazar8445 Ай бұрын
Awesome video, I am glad someone made video about Ustaše in English so more people can now understand genocide that was committed in NDH. I would just add that cardinal Alojzije Stepinac and pope Pius XII were big helpers of Pavelić, pope even helped Pavelić and many others to flew to Argentina.
@meopen1888
@meopen1888 19 күн бұрын
So can you give more context, what is the meaning of the word "Ustasa"? And why this group came into existance?
@dhjarta
@dhjarta Ай бұрын
Thank you for this video! Many channels talking about WW2 leave out this horrible part of history. This was a genocide that no one was punished for...
@Jen39x
@Jen39x Ай бұрын
Except they seemed to be doing quite a job against punishing each other in the 90’s
@dhjarta
@dhjarta Ай бұрын
@@Jen39x While the wars in the 90s were partially a consequence of the unresolved matters from WW2, most people who were directly responsible for Jasenovac never went to trial for their crimes.
@ladyjane8023
@ladyjane8023 Ай бұрын
God sees everything
@nerdslapper9361
@nerdslapper9361 Ай бұрын
@@ladyjane8023 Shame he doesn't do anything about it. Funny how your fairy tales work, right?
@ladyjane8023
@ladyjane8023 Ай бұрын
@@nerdslapper9361 Funny how you don't understand that God' s will is not reflected on earth. If it were the way you think it would never be wars. P.S how Pavelic ended his life?
@themidnightbanshee5927
@themidnightbanshee5927 Ай бұрын
I don't remember seeing this in the history books
@oofoof1206
@oofoof1206 Ай бұрын
Because Croatia defected to America, if it maintained autonomous then there will be several history books about it in school to make you fear and despise croats, like the serbs and russians today
@petergriffin680
@petergriffin680 Ай бұрын
Absolutely
@phreak2day
@phreak2day Ай бұрын
Actually it's not skipped, and it's part of the elementary school curriculum, both in Yugoslavia and modern day Croatia. Croatians are fully familiar with what happened, there just seems to be a perception among foreigners that the Ustaše are some sort of "secret". But they're really not, Yugoslavian cinema was full to the brim with war movies where the Partizans fought against the Nazis and Ustaše and defeated them. It was an integral part of the Yugoslavian identity. Modern day Croatia also has nothing to do with the Ustaše nor NDH since Croatians fought to bring them both down.
@themidnightbanshee5927
@themidnightbanshee5927 Ай бұрын
Well I didn't pay much attention in history class so I blame myself for not knowing. Only recently did I take interest in history cause of the many channels that have presented it in an entertaining way
@phreak2day
@phreak2day Ай бұрын
Yup, when we're young we perceive history to be dull, dry and boring, but it's actually quite facinating
@danzilla3
@danzilla3 Ай бұрын
Given that they were trained by the Italians, I'm surprised the Ustase ever won a battle.
@georgemioch8981
@georgemioch8981 Ай бұрын
they didn't fight in battles. They went to villages without any defense and slautered civilians.
@megamillionfreak
@megamillionfreak Ай бұрын
They won battles against children and the elderly.
@draganostojic6297
@draganostojic6297 24 күн бұрын
They never won any battle. Without Germans they would be obliterated far earlier
@iztokcvetko3669
@iztokcvetko3669 Ай бұрын
When we lived in Yugoslavia and were in school, they took us to see Jasenovac. We had a history day in the 7th grade of elementary school.
@IVANOsijek007
@IVANOsijek007 Ай бұрын
Why werent you taken to any partisan crime site? Did they exist or did the communist regime, you know, brainwash people?
@MorganJ
@MorganJ Ай бұрын
1:14 My apologies, is it 1889? I had trouble understanding the date. It sounded like 1989 but obviously that can't be right.
@RoundOfApplauseChannel
@RoundOfApplauseChannel Ай бұрын
1889. He made a mistake
@The_spectrum_z
@The_spectrum_z Ай бұрын
He said born in 1889!
@gingataisen
@gingataisen Ай бұрын
​@@The_spectrum_zNo, he really did say "1989". 😂
@TheSwiftAssassin7113
@TheSwiftAssassin7113 Ай бұрын
It's right. 1989. He's a well known time traveller.
@МайлзЖ
@МайлзЖ Ай бұрын
​@@gingataisenno, he said 1889. Maybe it's his accent for you, but I hear 1889 clearly
@latinlatino5146
@latinlatino5146 Ай бұрын
And denial in today's Croatia is still so common and strong. Some aren't even denying but feeling proud.
@YoutubeEntertainer-k9p
@YoutubeEntertainer-k9p Ай бұрын
They were still better than chetnics and Partisans
@milutinke
@milutinke Ай бұрын
@KZbinEntertainer-k9p How someone can be better than one who has concentration camps for Children?
@xxromanovaxx6682
@xxromanovaxx6682 22 күн бұрын
they are no different from ucrainians
@GameOn82
@GameOn82 22 күн бұрын
​@KZbinEntertainer-k9p you just proved his point
@Bajker90
@Bajker90 22 күн бұрын
War is war lol
@rwagingsloth9528
@rwagingsloth9528 Ай бұрын
For anyone wanting to take a dive into the atrocities committed in WW2 by ALL sides. i direct you to the channel "WW2" hosted by Indy Neidell (regular week by week war coverage portion) More specifically though, the "War Against Humanity" series hosted by Spartacus Olsson. Both series are arguably the msot in depth and comprehensive documentary ever made on the Second world war, and (imo) it's not even close. they do NOT shy away from pointing out the atrocities of either the allies or the axis, and the callousness expressed by those in power.
@Samsung-1.9Cu.Ft.Microwave
@Samsung-1.9Cu.Ft.Microwave Ай бұрын
Intrestingly enough, the minor axis nations seemed to be more inclined to be ruthless and violent in their quest to purify their nations than the N@zis were. Both Croatia and Romania were told by Germany to ease up on their brutality.
@froglifes6829
@froglifes6829 Ай бұрын
If you would care about history you would realize that narrative is german propaganda
@promeneuzivotu117
@promeneuzivotu117 Ай бұрын
The Axis partnership was just an excuse to fufill their own goals.
@simonriley4131
@simonriley4131 Ай бұрын
Because they had a wholly different approach to their antisemitism and racism. The Germans viewed their atrocities in a way a surgeon views a procedure to remove a tumor. It's nasty business, it's not nice to cut up another human being, but in the end it's for a good cause and has to be done. However, the Ustaše reveled in their violence, they truly enjoyed it. The Nazis had a very utilitarian view on violence and tried to paint themselves above the violence they perpetrated, while the Ustaše were treating it for what it truly was, senseless depravity. I don't think one movement is "better" or "worse" than the other, I just find one radically more honest
@mejuliie
@mejuliie Ай бұрын
@@simonriley4131 The reason why people think of it that way is only when they aren't educated enough about how brutal the Nazis really were. Sure, the Nazis were efficient and organized in their efforts to kill as many people of religions, ethnicities, and those with opposing views, but the violence wasn't seen as utilitarian. Violence was encouraged, as it further dehumanized the people Nazis saw as inferior. Speaks to how many countries gloss over the truly horrific and violent things, when teaching children. I'm from Austria, and thankfully it is different here and we are exposed to the actual horrors that were committed.
@mturkic
@mturkic Ай бұрын
Thank you for this relevant invite. Uštaše hate groups are still using social media often disguised as informal Croatian “chat forums”. I stumbled onto one here in Australia. I was roundly abused and threatened to the extent of advising the Office Of Croatians Abroad and the federal authorities. Jesinovac was a horrific example of what ordinary people can exact on others
@Thephillips-dj1po
@Thephillips-dj1po Ай бұрын
*HOW MANY CHANNELS DOES THIS MAN OPERATE?!*
@jovannovakovic2835
@jovannovakovic2835 Ай бұрын
A lot
@1tsbag134
@1tsbag134 29 күн бұрын
He just says what other tell him to say.
@ΕιρήνηΛάγιου-κ7ο
@ΕιρήνηΛάγιου-κ7ο Ай бұрын
First of all thanks for this broadcast, I am Greek Christian Orthodox and I know that real TERROR has one name JASENOVAC......and that European people know nothing about it....... it's time for this to change.....😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
@Grouchy_M
@Grouchy_M Ай бұрын
Andrija Artuković, the minister of the NDH, at a false and rigged trial responded, 'In Jasenovac rests my Croatian people and my Croatian army; if you don't believe it, dig, because the buttons from the military uniforms have not yet rotted.' After 1990, excavations began throughout Croatia and Slovenia, revealing the truth. Military insignia of Croatian soldiers are being found. The bones of Croatian women and children. Don't speak about something you have no knowledge of. Study a bit about the Jazovka pit.
@zoek1133
@zoek1133 Ай бұрын
Watch the movie "Dara from Jasenovac".
@Grouchy_M
@Grouchy_M Ай бұрын
@@ΕιρήνηΛάγιου-κ7ο"In Jasenovac rests my Croatian people and my Croatian army; if you don't believe it, dig, because the buttons from the military uniforms have not yet rotted." A.A
@robusni
@robusni 23 күн бұрын
People say a lot of silly stuff before death penalty....who cares....
@klopt772
@klopt772 18 күн бұрын
​@@Grouchy_MGive us some sources on that please,where did they find significant amount of dead Ustase in Jasenovac and when did they find it? Any source?
@erasmusmuse
@erasmusmuse 22 күн бұрын
I have a few men who were Ustaše in my family. They're elderly men now, of course. Most of them never go into detail about what they did. Also most were 18 at the time of WW2. They always say they did what they had to. I never pressured them into spilling what they were up to but it always made me somewhat embarrassed knowing what my family was a part of during this time period
@kresimirmandic3807
@kresimirmandic3807 Ай бұрын
As a Croat I am deeply ashamed by Ustaše and their supporters who are unfortunately still present in modern Croatia. All right winged parties are sympathetic of Ustaše and are negating atrocities they committed calling it communist propaganda. They are largely supported by people from Bosnia who are declaring themselves as Croats.
@Grouchy_M
@Grouchy_M Ай бұрын
You are a descendant of partisans. The partisans killed many people in my area. Are you saying that is not true? That people are lying about it? But it was not allowed to talk about it until 1990. If you were a true Croat, you wouldn't write that Croats from Bosnia are not Croats and defend the bloodthirsty partisans.
@NationContra
@NationContra Ай бұрын
​@@Grouchy_Magain the smurf, do you realize that Yugoslavian war might not have happened if it wasn't for the things that happened during ww2 in the balkans. I hope to God that you're not in your 20s talking all this 💩. We will never have peace in the balkans with people like you. Learn from history don't take out elements from the past that will fuel your present anger. Poz
@spartjovic
@spartjovic Ай бұрын
As a Serb I don't blame modern day Croats for any of that. It's unfortunate that it happened, but that's not your fault. However, it also sucks that a fringe minority still glorifies it, unfortunately there are extremists in every demographic.
@NationContra
@NationContra Ай бұрын
@@Grouchy_M Croatian smurf ww2 was a couple decades earlier than the 90s. If the crimes in ww2 didn't happen maybe there wouldn't have been a conflict in the 90s, ever asked yourself that?
@NationContra
@NationContra Ай бұрын
@@spartjovic let the kid talk. Blue smurfs croat who was born in 2004 probably, talking about war on the internet 👍🏼 ww2 was a couple decades earlier than the events that occurred in the 90s don't forget that.
@megamillionfreak
@megamillionfreak Ай бұрын
This alone was the key element that lead to the Balkan wars of the 1990s.
@pexx91
@pexx91 26 күн бұрын
Serbians and Croatians, very very very similar and great people. From western perspective that would be threat if these two are one, that is why systematically through centuries, differences are being imposed, from religion, national beliefs and lastly trying to make two different languages yet both speak literally same.. so in a nutshell, ustasa movement just sick creation of western world that made wounds hard to forget by Serbs for decades to come…
@seeker4trvth
@seeker4trvth 26 күн бұрын
Exactly!
@fofizz
@fofizz 22 күн бұрын
Usase and cetniks did literally a same thing but partizans are real patriots, and in 90s serbs did alot massacres on croats thats literally it all philosophy
@NikolaMlnkvc
@NikolaMlnkvc 21 күн бұрын
​@@fofizz, can you prove it?
@fofizz
@fofizz 21 күн бұрын
@@NikolaMlnkvc Četnici: Sprovodili su masakre nad muslimanima, Hrvatima i komunistima u cilju stvaranja “Velike Srbije”. 2. Ustaše: Vodili su genocidnu politiku protiv Srba, Jevreja, Roma i drugih nesklonih NDH. Sad mozes odjebat
@fofizz
@fofizz 21 күн бұрын
@@NikolaMlnkvc Partizans also killed people but only after ww2 and not in masses like in ww2, if you want proof about 90s you have many genocides places in croatia what serbs did or chetniks
@EmpireofStantnowa.
@EmpireofStantnowa. Ай бұрын
The Croatian massacre of these ethnic Serbs and other groups was really really sick it makes me feel shame as an Eastern Catholic being between the Latin Catholics and Orthodox. may God help those Martyrs in Heaven
@EduardoDvajsprvić
@EduardoDvajsprvić 24 күн бұрын
Croats did not Invade Serbia it was other way around, colonizers are not victims
@justarandomisland
@justarandomisland 22 күн бұрын
@@EduardoDvajsprvićSerbia didn’t invade Croatia in ww2?
@man-xy
@man-xy 22 күн бұрын
keep fabricating history, jew
@fofizz
@fofizz 22 күн бұрын
Partizans are real Croats and few serbs i think im not sure, Ustase are also croats who sided with germany and cetniks are serbs who sided with germany, ustase and cetniks killed both serbs and croats and other minorities but later in 90s it was other way around ( serbs did alot of massacres...)
@justarandomisland
@justarandomisland 22 күн бұрын
@ Chetniks and ustasa were both responsible for horrific killings. Partisans were much more composed and didn’t kill without reason, they weren’t driven by race to kill
@S1mp_Sh1nazugawa
@S1mp_Sh1nazugawa Ай бұрын
Happy to see a video finally talking about the video! The documentary is easy to understand and deeply researched. Keep up the good work! Hello from a Croatian!
@Alex-mn1fb
@Alex-mn1fb Ай бұрын
Its true, in some ways it was worse then the Nazis. The Nazis had this industrialised, cold, emtionless, almost detached extermination program, whereas Ustase Croatia was a literal slaughterhouse!
@Nytelynx
@Nytelynx Ай бұрын
I learn more from Simon than I ever did in history class.
@GonzalesGigi-n9s
@GonzalesGigi-n9s Ай бұрын
My grand mother was saved by the German army in ww2 in the town of Uzice, she was in burning building and German soldiers saved her life,Ustase killed left and right, civilians and children.
@robrob9050
@robrob9050 Ай бұрын
My own rank by who committed most atrocities in WW2 is: 1. Ustase 2. Germans 3. Partisans 4.Cetnik forces 4.Italians
@wide4583
@wide4583 25 күн бұрын
​@@robrob9050Don't forget the Japanese
@nelgluhak6709
@nelgluhak6709 25 күн бұрын
​@@robrob9050putting partisans as worse than četniks is insane. Also Italian fascists Partisans were mostly having revenge against the people who murdered their families. Kids were becoming partisan fighters because the ustaše killed their families.
@draganostojic6297
@draganostojic6297 24 күн бұрын
Ustase in Uzice?
@TheSorcerer1
@TheSorcerer1 23 күн бұрын
@@robrob9050 Evil is evil, stop ranking it. This isn't a degenerate brainrot tier list, it's loss of life.
@andersisberg8722
@andersisberg8722 28 күн бұрын
Very interesting episode. I wrote a paper on the subject whilst studying history at university, since two "neo-utstase" murdered the Yugoslav ambassador in Stockholm. Their capture and inprisonment led to the only airline hijacking in swedish history. Keep up the good work Simon, I really enjoy your shows.
@bernardokrolo2275
@bernardokrolo2275 27 күн бұрын
Neo ustase?who?Miro Baresic ?seems to me that you are close to fall deep in to a "rabbit hole"..keep diging
@АнгелинаГаљевић
@АнгелинаГаљевић 25 күн бұрын
My grandma was a Serb living in Vrebac. Her father was killed by ustaše when she was a child and she almost got killed when she was guarding sheep. They only spared her beacuse she was a girl.
@fofizz
@fofizz 22 күн бұрын
You can say tge same with cetniks they did the same thing
@NikolaMlnkvc
@NikolaMlnkvc 21 күн бұрын
​@@fofizz, can you prove it? Where are the witnesses?
@Kret-o
@Kret-o Ай бұрын
Thank God more attention is being brought to this
@top_fightgame512
@top_fightgame512 Ай бұрын
Na vrh gore trebevica u logoru francetica
@YoutubeEntertainer-k9p
@YoutubeEntertainer-k9p Ай бұрын
Serb Propaganda
@draganostojic6297
@draganostojic6297 24 күн бұрын
And Internet is forever
20 күн бұрын
I am from Croatia, born after Yugo war. I can't believe that even schools and my own parents kept this from me. They are calling Serbs "ustase" my whole life, when in fact they/we are "Ustase" all along. My mind in boggled.
@paradoxiCk
@paradoxiCk 20 күн бұрын
nope, they call serbs "cetnici"
@anteveic327
@anteveic327 20 күн бұрын
If you were Croatian, you couldn't avoid this at school. Also, absolutely nobody calls Serbs ustaše because it would make no sense. Many Serbs call Croats ustaše though. Don't be ashamed of being Serb and pretend to be something else.
20 күн бұрын
@anteveic327 I am Croatian lmao. We never learned this at school. I reapet NEVER. Sorry I got confused with "cetnici". My parents are big nationalists but I always hated that so I moved to Ireland because I hate balkan all together.
@Zireal85
@Zireal85 Ай бұрын
I was just watching world war 2 documentaries today. Excellent timing for this release, more information for me to binge watch
@lCountMike
@lCountMike Ай бұрын
Much of documentation including filming was destroyed or hidden after WWII in order to propagate "Fraternity and unification" in Communist Yugoslavia. Being Yugoslav was much more preferred over ethnicity. Btw, Jasenovac and many other monuments to Ustashe atrocities were built with grants from USA.
@BrianHayter-zl2uc
@BrianHayter-zl2uc Ай бұрын
Much love & respect for all victims, never ever again 🙏🙏🙏❤️❤️❤️🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺
@matematic6223
@matematic6223 21 күн бұрын
Thanks for promoting my lovely country
@analegat4908
@analegat4908 Ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing this dark chapter of Croatian History. Can you go on and tell about Goli Otok?
@robrob9050
@robrob9050 Ай бұрын
Yeah.Tito's "legacy"
@stipidman93
@stipidman93 20 күн бұрын
they won't cover that
@analegat4908
@analegat4908 20 күн бұрын
@@stipidman93 why not? It is also a part of History.
@markherd3116
@markherd3116 Ай бұрын
I visited Croatia (Yugoslavia) shorty before the civil War in the 1990's. In every family owned cafe or bar, there was still a picture of Marshall Tito up on the war. A testament to how important the man and his forces were.
@falconmclenny7284
@falconmclenny7284 Ай бұрын
Sad that people revere a communist, which makes you an inherently terrible person... but somehow he held this together for 50 years. Crazy.
@CarolusVonAgram
@CarolusVonAgram Ай бұрын
In Croatia and Bosnia it was a Homeland war* not a civil war
@lCountMike
@lCountMike Ай бұрын
Tito was half Croat and well on Croatian side but there are still many so called "Yugonostalgics". Tito's tomb and remembrance park are in Belgrade, Serbia and still visited every 25th of May (official Tito's birthday) by people end delegations from all over.
@Merydeth333
@Merydeth333 Ай бұрын
My mom still has a framed picture of Tito in her home. So does my Bosnian neighbor
@falconmclenny7284
@falconmclenny7284 Ай бұрын
@@Merydeth333 are they raging communists, or do they just revere the man because he kept the Balkans from killing each other? Genuine question.
@Djehuty99
@Djehuty99 28 күн бұрын
The sad thing is that kids these days that weren't alive even during the Homeland War in 90s are singing old ustase songs, and even openly praising Pavelic and Ustase movement identifying themselves as ustase and being proud of it. Seeing it as some sort of virtuous patriotic act, it's quite sad state of things, especially considering the revisionist history that's been pushed lately by some ultra nationalist parts in Croatia. Couple of years ago when my son was 10 years old, he was playing football with his classmates and they were all a part of some local small football club support group. A picture comes to my wife where he along with around 20 other kids are standing with their hands straight (nazi salute) with local football club flags along with ustase flags, emblems and they are all wearing black, except my son who was funnily enough wearing a red Liverpool T-shirt and he raised the wrong hand... I blew a gasket when i saw it, asked him about it, he didn't realize at all that he did something wrong at the time, he just did what some 35 year old support group coordinator that was there told them to, and thought that was how their group supports their football club. After i explained what it all meant, who ustase and nazis were, what they did and what they represented he was quite shaken and he stopped hanging around that club. It just shows how quickly history is forgotten, and how an such a hateful ideology can be twisted into something virtuous within a couple of generations.
@jonomobono3223
@jonomobono3223 27 күн бұрын
Actually i remember serbian football Fans shouting srebrenica...and glorify the biggest gncde on european ground after ww2, done by serbian troops on muslim civilians And if you want to see hatefull people just type "albania vs serbia" football match and see what serbs shout about albanian people...
@fdmaviation
@fdmaviation Ай бұрын
Great video, very unsettling group, never knew they existed
@jacobavners2394
@jacobavners2394 Ай бұрын
A chapter as tragic as it is undeservedly overlooked.
@cashjohny1247
@cashjohny1247 16 күн бұрын
They killed 90 percent of my family. From my uncle who was seven years old to my grandmother who was slaughtered and thrown into the Sava river. But never compare one nation and extremists who came to power through a strange game of history. Many Croats joined Tito's partisans and fought against the Ustasha and other fascists in the former Yugoslavia. Tito was also a Croat. 
@NikolaMlnkvc
@NikolaMlnkvc 15 күн бұрын
The Croats joined the Partisans only in 1943 after Italy changed sides and it was clear that Germany will fail. That's why their pensions were lower than other Partisan fighters who were there from 1941.
@NikolaMlnkvc
@NikolaMlnkvc 15 күн бұрын
Sorry about your family.
@cashjohny1247
@cashjohny1247 15 күн бұрын
@@NikolaMlnkvc You're right. Members of the Communist Party joined the Partisans after the attack on the Soviet Union. Most of the Croats joined the fight after the fall of Italy. I don't believe the official history, I researched the witnesses around my place. There was crime on both sides. Serbs suffered the worst, the crime against them was committed by the state.
@newsungsails3651
@newsungsails3651 Ай бұрын
I highly recommend the book by Keith Lowe “Savage Continent: Europe on the Aftermath of World War II.” It demonstrates that many countries in Europe were racked by war before and after world war 2, which was only one especially grissly act in a much broader macabre play of bloodshed. There were many civil wars and border disputes within the war, and for some the end of the bigger war was in fact the beginning of the troubles. Violence and ethnic cleansing between Ukraine and Poland, the Greek Civil War, Stalinization of Romania, ongoing bloodshed in the Balkans, and this is all happening while the infrastructure of the entire continent (and the ecosystems) had been utterly decimated by WW2. It’s a shocking and well researched book. The chapters on anti-Bolshevik resistance in the Balkans and the chapter on Greece are masterful, but the best in my opinion is “Yugoslavia: Europe in Microcosm” which if it were a stand alone essay I would consider it one of the best written on the region during that period. A lot of it is about people getting revenge not only on the Ustashe , but also many civilians whose only affiliation with the group was their ethnicity.
@DinamoZgrb
@DinamoZgrb 10 күн бұрын
Now do the video of monstrosity and extreme of partizans, communists and the other toward croatian people.. Locking thousands of men, women and kids in mines etc..
@igorch69
@igorch69 10 күн бұрын
Kako siješ tako žanješ.
@penzioner2974
@penzioner2974 9 күн бұрын
​@@igorch69 upravo tako, za svakog zaklanog srbina od hrvatske ruke kriv je punisa racic i radikalna stranka. Čačkali mečku.
@axelwebb5349
@axelwebb5349 2 күн бұрын
There's another group whose brutality that would probably have been too much even for the Nazis and that's Hamas.
@Doomzdayxx
@Doomzdayxx 25 күн бұрын
These guys were all still amateurs compared to Stalin, Pol Pot, Mao.
@serbiankanyewest
@serbiankanyewest 15 күн бұрын
All of the guys you named never built child concentration camps
@dragoslavauseinovic
@dragoslavauseinovic 13 күн бұрын
Sa obzirom na broj naroda nadmašila su amaterizam u svakom pogledu. To ne umanjuje zločine.
@Doomzdayxx
@Doomzdayxx 13 күн бұрын
@@dragoslavauseinovic No. It's all bad either way you slice it.
@anthonyperno1348
@anthonyperno1348 Ай бұрын
Looks like yet another 'gift' from the League of Nations. Forcing various tribes on top of one another without concern for the obvious hatred between the groups and the pending violence it was sure to create. E.g. Iraq
@promeneuzivotu117
@promeneuzivotu117 Ай бұрын
Yeah Yugoslavia was a mistake.
@Kenji-117
@Kenji-117 Ай бұрын
Yugoslavia was only possible due to Tito. After Titos passing this dream died quick and all he stood for was brushed aside. What a shame but its just brutal reality sadly
@gerdforster883
@gerdforster883 Ай бұрын
The first Yugoslavia was not set up by "forcing various tribes on top of one another". It was a voluntary merger. Unfortunately, the internal politics of the new state were a shambles. That's what caused tensions, and the events of WWII caused the hatred that would rip the country apart in the 1990s. And even then, it took years of nationalist propaganda by people like Tudjman and Milosevic to actually get a war going.
@lCountMike
@lCountMike Ай бұрын
Nobody forced them to join Serbia in first Yugoslavia,they all elected to join for one reason or other. Serbia and Montenegro (which was largely considered Serbia) were only winners in Balkan after WWI. Croatia and Slovenia were so long divided and parts of Austria, Hungary and Italy that they didn't have leadership and organization for full independence so joining Yugoslavia was best and only choice for some independence. that way Croatia gained whole of Dalmatia which would regain it after Austria's loss. Bosnia was "Nobody's land" after ending of Austria's annexation and had even less possibility of becoming independent country because of large Serb population and Macedonia was largely Bulgarian so it would be part of Bulgaria and Albania, again not even apparent independence.
@AllKnowingNick
@AllKnowingNick Ай бұрын
When you say "all' you do get that a great majority of the people at the time of Juga1 didn't have a right to decide what happens right? It's true that it was the best choice that could be made at the time but it is important to keep in mind that most Croats didn't choose it, that's one of the reasons why it was so unstable.
@mjovic9124
@mjovic9124 12 күн бұрын
Thank you for this, several of my family members were killed in the Glina massacres.
@khaosssssss1727
@khaosssssss1727 Ай бұрын
Deep dive Japan all across Asia, please? I lost family all around the world it feels like. 💔💜
@cuzzz
@cuzzz Ай бұрын
And people in Croatia still celebrate and call themselfs Ustaše. I feel bad for every regular man living in the Balkans because of the extremists.
@promeneuzivotu117
@promeneuzivotu117 Ай бұрын
Fr
@NinaL-zu3rk
@NinaL-zu3rk 25 күн бұрын
They are proud of their past and always deny Jasenovac genocide.
@zHaste
@zHaste 24 күн бұрын
Who exactly does that? Being called an Ustaša is a pretty serious insult, I've never met anyone who would identify themselves with this group. I'm sure there are some, but it has to be a very, very small minority. Don't make it sound like it's common when it's not.
@NinaL-zu3rk
@NinaL-zu3rk 24 күн бұрын
@zHaste It's common. The majority of Croats support crimes against Serbs, Jews and Romas. They celebrate genocide they have committed.
@promeneuzivotu117
@promeneuzivotu117 24 күн бұрын
@@zHaste happy new year!🥳
@radanagrahovac4339
@radanagrahovac4339 15 күн бұрын
It's pronounced Ustashe not ustashi... and thank you for telling our story to the rest of the world 🌎 ❤️
@partygrove5321
@partygrove5321 Ай бұрын
Fun fact, Tito was a Croat too.
@Unpainted_Huffhines
@Unpainted_Huffhines Ай бұрын
Half Slovene
@aleksandarmicke1996
@aleksandarmicke1996 Ай бұрын
And spent his youth in the Soviet Union
@froglifes6829
@froglifes6829 Ай бұрын
@@aleksandarmicke1996 no he did not, he was only there for a few years
@promeneuzivotu117
@promeneuzivotu117 Ай бұрын
​@@froglifes6829 he contemplated of getting married and starting a life in Soviet Union but decided to leave because he whanted a cariere in the politics.
@lCountMike
@lCountMike Ай бұрын
@@aleksandarmicke1996 No, his youth he spent in Croatia, he spent few years in USSR because he was a communist and that was only place to safely be one and be educated. So did all of leaders oh later Communist countries.
@MilivojLasan
@MilivojLasan 20 күн бұрын
So sad anyone is allowed to be historian due to wikipedia
@mihailoilic2561
@mihailoilic2561 10 күн бұрын
Thank you for this wonderful video. Ushashe committed genocide over Serbs two times in 19 century. First was in NDH with Jasenovac where were killed around 700.000 Serbs, and the second one was during 90's with "Operation Storm". I have to say that Ustashe's vision about ethnic cleansing in Croatia from WWII was continued and contributed during 1990's wars. Today, as a Republic of Croatia their biggest national holiday is "Operation Storm" where they expelled more then 250.000 Serbs civilians into today Serbia's borders and killing more then 2.000 people. Those people were their neighbors, friends, families who lived there for centuries. Before war in 90's there were more then 500.000 Serbs ( almost 13% of population ), but today there is about 180.000 ( around 4% ). Even tho with the Christmas Constitution of 1990, the Parliament of the Republic of Croatia abolished the status of the Serbian people as a constituent nation in Croatia where Serbs and Croats are same. ( just as the Ustashas converted Serbs to Catholicism, now all Serbs are actually Croats there. ) Fun fact: The Ustashe in the Independent State of Croatia killed as many as 91 members of the family of the world's greatest scientist Nikola Tesla in 1941. Today's Croats trying to absorb everything Nikola Tesla is and claiming he was Croat just because he was born in todays borders. :D
@igorch69
@igorch69 10 күн бұрын
More like 2 million freakin serbs.
@gazoontight
@gazoontight Ай бұрын
The war in Yugoslavia is mostly ignored. A relative of mine knew someone who was a member of one of the guerilla groups fighting in Yugoslavia at that time. That man said once that the true story of the Second World War in Yugoslavia would never be told because the UK and the USA had blood on their hands and cooperated with the Communists to eliminate other groups.
@fofizz
@fofizz 22 күн бұрын
Communists were Partizans hiding like democrats but they are still FARRRR better then Ustase and Cetniks
@KosovoisSerbia33
@KosovoisSerbia33 Ай бұрын
Thanks for the truth ☦️🇷🇸
@yugo81
@yugo81 7 күн бұрын
This is all well said, just to mention that the Ustasha regime was clero-fascist, and the reason why the Serbs rebelled in 1990 is precisely this, the wounds are too deep, and the people have not forgotten, but the EU and US leaders never looked at the whole story, they only condemned and watched the events since 1990, the Serbs paid the most here, and if there were 10 wars in 1990, that's not even close to how much the Serbs paid in the 1940s
@Jaskol_Wazon
@Jaskol_Wazon Ай бұрын
War, war never changes...
@bubee8123
@bubee8123 29 күн бұрын
What a perfect neutral depiction of the situation this video was I was amazed. Great job Simon, greetings from Croatia!
@jamiekay133
@jamiekay133 Ай бұрын
I got to see a Ustaše prison when I visited Croatia last year. A small dark underground set of dank cells in Pula, Istria (Formerly part of Italy when it was returned to the Croats halfway through WWII following Mussolini’s fall from power.) and it was haunting. They were absolutely fanatical fascists. Some really horrid stories I heard about some of the mostly communist guerilla fighters that were imprisoned there….
@nicholasdelaney1407
@nicholasdelaney1407 Ай бұрын
My Grandfather was captured by the Ustase when he fought in WW2. As far as I know he was so happy to have been given to the Germans and not stay with the Ustate...
@harrisong3386
@harrisong3386 Ай бұрын
I've been waiting for you to cover them
@sascha9213
@sascha9213 24 күн бұрын
My grandfather and grandmother who lived in norther Bosnia told me that they and many other Serbs used to flee willingly into the occupation zones under direct German control just not to get slaughtered or sent to Jaenovac by the Croatian Ustasa. Let that sink in for a moment.
@julianfodor3348
@julianfodor3348 Ай бұрын
My family is Serbian. My aunt was taken by the Ustase and killed her. My grandmother often cried my baby, my baby.
@williamgreen5575
@williamgreen5575 Ай бұрын
Can we just address the pronunciation of 'Romany'. It's Roman-ee and not RomaRny. People from Rome are not described as RomaRns are they?
@zoek1133
@zoek1133 Ай бұрын
Romani-s
@williamgreen5575
@williamgreen5575 Ай бұрын
@zoek1133 either way, it's still not RomaRni is it?
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