Please Don't Watch This Game - Proxy Hatch to GM #5

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[@JohnCurtisPiano]

this is proof zerg is the hardest to play

[@BOASTinTheLORD]

ROFL! I'd have to agree, but I could be biased.

[@checkmatenate]

@@BOASTinTheLORD terran is way harder to play with those dang

[@tomrod2569]

Zerg I'd easiest

[@Amoeby]

Lmao, roach printer goes brrr.

[@MagicLeavez]

You silly goose!

[@steveABCDEFG]

Hey easy there. You’re walking a fine line!

[@Wezelkonijn]

Ah yes... the classic 12 pool into 17 hatch into 17 hatch into 17 hatch.

[@kesatola3554]

By the way uthermal, if you want to do hatch cancel + building on creep trick, you have to let the hatch build for a couple seconds. If you cancel too quickly, the creep is going to go away faster.

[@RobbCorp]

Your positive attitude with these games is contagious! Love it.

[@bukjay314]

X infinity

[@michaelwicker9538]

Totally agree, it's way more fun to watch someone who's having fun.

[@Mesmakers]

I believe if you let the hatchery build for a few moments the creep that is left over after the cancel is larger making the spine easier to make

[@AhmedAldoori]

I usually don't comment on videos, but thank you for your videos! I haven't touched StarCraft since Broodwar, really fascinating to see how far the game has come. You also have wonderful commentary, making things seem effortless which is a testament to your multitasking skills. Cheers mate!

[@Niiiiiichhuuutee]

Other artists that like starcraft :0

[@AhmedAldoori]

@@Niiiiiichhuuutee heck yeah 😎

[@martinrossel547]

Omg Ahmed, didn't expect to see you here!

[@VKTRUNG]

what are you doing here Ahmed!!

[@lukeaberdene-wallwork8029]

Absolutely loving the content man, I started watching when ghosted to gm just finished, I’m now going back and watching all of the content because your so good Thanks for making the world slightly more manageable.

[@vashusan1984]

Man this was so fun to watch, your attitude and commentary always keep me coming back for more.

[@GMNever]

This series is so entertaining!

[@waylonmarble5181]

When you win a match faster than it takes to load a game. That's that uThermal heat!

[@prosocial_lad]

Love the little ‘in the dojo’ moment after the loss. Keep sharpening those skills

[@AndrewArts]

I can't resist the reverse psychology! Got. To. Watch!!!

[@honestreviewer8211]

Sorry I have to watch this, you’re just so entertaining!

[@GrantDexter]

Game 3 definitely counts as a proxy hatch. You made three of them. :D

[@damnplaylist]

proxy ha- - - since they never finished lol

[@GrantDexter]

It's the thought that counts. ;)

[@balazsfenyes3880]

I would love to see Serral's reaction to the hatchery/spine fail 3 times in a row.

[@taylordcraig]

can we please get a short of that

[@Zaj88]

Here is the ultimate challenge: Build units that the opponents units counter. Love your videos. I like the long videos, but I'll watch the videos regardless of length - Go for the best monetization! You deserve every bit. Thank you for your efforts and content!

[@dp3759]

That was my comment about the hatch cancel into spine! I was so thrilled until... 😅 I had no idea it was so hard to place it

[@Starx8591]

its a shame this guy doesnt have more subs. wish ppl enjoyed this game more

[@a_external_ways.fully_arrays]

- btw. it could be the case that it makes a difference how long you let the hatch be building before cancelling - I at least began to delay a bit at some point because of this problem

[@CandymanSays]

One thing I've seen Pig do is proxy hatch, in order to put down a forward creep tumor with a queen. Using the same cancel hatchery method. Pushing creep all over the map. You could do the same thing maybe? Or Nydus Rush, pull drones and rush as many spine/spore crawlers as you can.

[@kj1h5kj]

I think the difference for the hatch(cancel)->spine is not you having to move the mouse, but the drone moving to the center of the space. Because the spine is 2 blocks wide instead of 3 (like the hatchery and evo chamber), the drone isn't in the correct spot and has to move a bit to get to the center of the 2x2 grid. That RNG of the drone movement (and maybe which direction the drone was facing when it exits the hatchery build) is what makes the spine harder to build here.

[@MadeThisStuff]

Have you ever tried mass overseer contaminate? Would love to see that since it's something so rarely used. Maybe the challenge could be something like delay opponents upgrades as long as possible.

[@jakedel5637]

You are so fun to watch! Played a little Starcraft when I was younger with a friend 2v2 and the only strategy was for me to zergrush, otherwise my friend would win 1v2. Best time of my life. You are so entertaining!! I wonder if it would be possible to cheese with spinecrawlers to GM?

[@KjcKiesh]

you silly goose! fun video though, the other spine rushes were absolutely filthy, loved it

[@gokhundogactemur3062]

Thanks for the daily videos. Im going through tough times and especially when im sad watching your commentary helps a lot. I’ve been waiting for zerg btw glad its going solid 🙏🏻

[@omargallardoarc]

Man, it's really good hear someone laugh when made a mistake... that gives me hope in a world of gamer haters. Thanks for share a goodmood

[@njdarda]

you told us not to watch it yet i can't stop rewatching the spinecrawler debacle. that panic buildup is amazing :D

[@davidmassey5448]

Really cool shit! I like these challenges to grandmaster, and I think it would be cool if you did an "I'm better than my viewers" thing like chess-simp. Do you do any casting of large tournament games? Your ability to play and communicate simultaneously makes me think you'd be a really cool caster.

[@G3rain1]

Yeah, you figured it out at the end. One difference Zerg has to the other races that not many people realize is that the worker has to be at the center of the building to start making it, as where P and T can start build from the edge.

[@dylandixon6667]

In Canada, The Goose is considered to be one of the deadliest predators known to our people, we call them Cobra chickens, so while you may be on occasion silly, it does not take away from your lethality.

[@averymackey2966]

Not just a silly goose, a heckin' silly Billy!

[@LaTeX657]

Placing a spine is harder than an evo. Here's why - when you cancel a hatch, the drone will always spawn in the middle of a 3x3 creep patch. If you try to build an evo the drone is already perfectly aligned with the creep but if you place a spine the drone will have to move from the initial spawning position to build a spine. The creep will start to decay by one patch by random from any of the 8 outside patches and a fraction of a second later two more patches will decay. I did some testing on slow speed and it appears that while I was able to place an evo at all times, placing a spine could be blocked by the first decayed patch of creep before my drone had time to relocate to build the spine. Also, the last game was painful. 1. Seeing double evo upgrades, full wall, roach warren, three spines, metabolic boost on low drones- "could be mutas. Let's sack this overlord I can't afford to lose" 2. Having like 13 workers - "would be nice with some gas and evolution chamber" 3. Roach attack happens with no ling reinforcements and holds - "would be nice with another round of 20 zerglings" I think that opening had you triggered so hard you should've just gged after cancelling your third hatch! We've all had those games haha.

[@Broformist]

The part with the failed hatchery trick gave me warm feelings, since I can never even place a damn evo chamber that way. Never enough speed/accuracy in my fingers.

[@jaeyang9540]

Take a look at Pigs creep spread cheese, much safer to play, transitions well and forces a Queen build. Start base, cancel, you have a few seconds to start creep with a queen. Works well against Terran forces scan for creep tumors.

[@MathewGuest]

loved the training sesh :D I was also wondering if you let it build a bit longer if there would be more or longer-lasting creep

[@joebowl8315]

I still got so many of your vids to watch but with this title you know I had to come watch you epic fail. Don't believe you will, but I'm ready to laugh and be proven wrong xD 😆

[@joebowl8315]

Lmao you silly goose

[@user-mv2nn6rw2w]

Spine crawler rush in monobattle when you picked queen is so strong that you can often 1v4 contain them.

[@SeekAndDestroyTM]

Back in the day you would see a fast roach attack, followed by 2 base muta, followed by like 120 supply of roaches.

[@AntonioLopez-kw3ev]

Good ol op broken zerg loved the broken infestors tho

[@georgeharris6099]

New King of Thumbnail? This man knows every Trick:-)

[@asdfqwerty9241]

If the order the creep recedes in is deterministic, there might be a direction to place the spine crawler that gives you more time to place it than the others (since the creep receding on the opposite side of the spine doesn't matter).

[@HandsomeSloth]

You silly goose, making the most entertaining SC2 content on the internet. So silly indeed :)

[@princess_love9929]

if you have your cursor over the top left of the hatch before canceling it is easier to place the spine. I think it is because that is technically where the drone was so it has the creep the longest

[@shufflecat3334]

Thermy is a silly goose, but he's OUR silly goose. And we love him.

[@vitaligofman1801]

hello again, you are the only sc2 content creator i watch, i don't watch others players play unless you cast their games. back in the day i used to watch husky. i grew up with sc1 as a kid, like one of my first games besides diablo and quake and medal of honor. i rarely play with these days, im more into csgo, but ur fun to watch cause ur a silly goose. i am waiting for you to do protoss, so i can learn some tricks and restart playing. that being said, whenever you say "if you don't know" about sc2 players, or some meta stuff, there are legit people who don't know, including me

[@mikaeltaz]

In my opinion u deserve so much more subs, best content on my feed and I'm glad is Daily, tnx Thermy

[@escanor790]

it's your attitude that makes the losses fun to watch haha! few people have that ability. love your content

[@ryjelsum]

gotta say i kinda love how you used the bongcloud account for this one

[@ssk1990]

Nice series! Your overlord was right there when u were trying to make the spine. Maybe u could use the generate creep ability and save the 75 minerals

[@SethBurgess]

need a lair for that..

[@bl00d3dmoneyenkur4]

I saw nothing! really! I haven't watched it, I let it sit on pause at start for hours while I do things through out the day today! Hahah!! Did as you asked. See, I'm good like that. Now also I will have to watch it still to learn. Learning from our failures makes our biggest success!! Keep it up Marc! Hope to play against or with you in the near future. o7

[@Supergoon1989]

16:21 This guy has style!!, gotta admit that....

[@steviestone3968]

Some say, he's still trying to make a spine crawler to this day

[@chrisgriffith1573]

The trick to getting the hatch creep to seed in is to wait for the hatch formation animation to finish before canceling. That way the creep will always be there, and you will get a 3x3 space for your tumor.

[@barthoda2283]

Silly Goose! Hope you are feeling better

[@psluxton]

Silly snapper flapper! 😄

[@mrmatejator]

Great video like always Mark ☺️ But the thing is that whenever I see an overly clickbaity title I have to fight myself whether to watch or not.

[@taylordcraig]

But he hasn't failed us yet.

[@sunken8068]

Just want express how much I love these series. Watching every night before bed XD Wish list would be mech to grandmaster or "Winning by defending" to grandmaster.

[@mattijohansen3471]

I want to thank you for Game 3.. Giving us poor mortals some moral.. Good to see you making oopsies.

[@GruppeSechs]

Is this the -300 minerals to GM challenge now?

[@dustinseth9520]

Dang, sucks to see a BMer win. Hopefully you run into him again

[@shibolinethewonderskorse2032]

Silly goose

[@jarrod752]

Watching you play and win to _so and so left the game_ reminds me of that Star Trek TNG Episode. Data says: _I didn't win..., I busted him up._

[@hectatusbreakfastus6106]

I might have to try a few of these prozzy hatches ;)

[@EXXTSON]

You silly goose

[@BRJoinGames]

You gotta try it again! It's a win win strategy for the viewers. If you get the spine we see a cool cheese but if you fail we get to enjoy you trying your hardest to win a lost game, it's fun either way

[@kwood6013]

You silly goose! - Me, a 1 APM player

[@oddballcards9176]

LOve your vids !! so fun to see your strats and that you plan them out !!

[@reflect2808]

17:06 broodling leading the legion of death

[@n00bnetrum]

I'm sorry Thermy I'm going to watch it.

[@Deipnosophist_the_Gastronomer]

10:05 Could you make your spine in the creep left when he cancels his natural? Or is the timing just too tricky?

[@a_external_ways.fully_arrays]

No reason to feel bad - Reynor just played a game recently against elazer where he failed 3 times with the hatch + spine (;

[@interestexpense6464]

You know what, I'm gonna watch it even harder.

[@moecrackus6948]

never played this game kinda missed out on the craze but the more i watch you the more i want to pick it up just to play zerg and have fun

[@Big5ocks]

Damn, Marc! Game 2 was dirty! Love it!!😊

[@chonkzillaofficial]

I dont even play this game anymore but i love your videos!!!

[@Nathanael_Forlorn]

In the last game, I think skip more lings after the first few and rush mutas. Either on 2 base or even on three. Oppo seemed dead set on roaches and only sensible transition was spire himself. Both are well countered with a flock of early mutas.

[@Crazymonkeyskills]

+1 armor lings make it so roaches take an additional shot to kill lings, which makes it better than +1 attack vs roaches.

[@buckheadbombsquad]

I did your burrow roach in the main worked great

[@Inbal_Feuchtwanger]

Ive seen that fast Roach in ZvZ 3 times on ladder last season so I dont know how, but somehow its a thing. I would love to know who popularized it. I won all 3 games but I always do a pool first build in ZvZ so I imagine it is working against people who go hatch.

[@vitaligofman1801]

the art of star craft

[@tomasduchan8275]

I am not watching this game, I am listening to this game

[@ssvensic]

Marc, don't worry about playing the same build a few games in a row, we love the cheese no matter what :)

[@ralphb2068]

Such a silly goose

[@drxenon3864]

Such a silly goose move to make

[@dabdoc3885]

Keep up the great work Marc! With so much amazing content like this you'll be up there with MrBeast in no time

[@cutlercrow1416]

If bly does coaching he may see a lot more business after this series changes the meta

[@user-rh5tm8jj7z]

I am feeling creep-dirty after this video

[@Trassik]

Solar did it, I'll do it too. Oh, Solar must have practiced...

[@trixmtll1393]

alright, this time i wont feel bad for listening to you in the background :D

[@lynk_1240]

You did a fantastic job beating yourself in that last game

[@vitaligofman1801]

(EDIT: i thought it was proxy hatch, not spine crawler rush) i havent watched this yet(i paused to comment), 1:33. i was wondering... what about behind the barrier/ramp on the lower ground.. ur already far from his base... ***rush lurkers keep up the good content

[@ade1234123]

uThermal you silly goose!

[@stevef68]

Silly Goose!

[@nilsdemello907]

It´s better to make errors and learn from them, than executing everything perfect, you will always remember them in the future and be prepared for them :)

[@traaaaan]

I have to watch this before reading the comments.

[@brianpiccolo8965]

the silliest of gooses

[@Special_Tactics_Force_Unit]

choke of the century!

[@milletmongoose]

You're a very fun silly goose.

[@itschrisperry]

Did anyone catch gsl this morning? Watching gumiho felt like i was watching a uthermal video, marc have you been practicing with gum? :P he did the proxy 2 rax reaper and i was literally like "its the uthermal proxy!!!!!" Lol

[@GruppeSechs]

Why not just invest in drops? That way, you can pop zerglings onto the high ground to scout in situations like that without wasting an overlord without getting to scout anyway because they're so slow? Also makes for a counter people don't expect? People are so rigid about never getting burrow or overlord tech.