V meets Viktor and Misty after 2 years coma - Cyberpunk 2077: Phantom Liberty

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0:00 - Intro
1:12 - Viktor
11:05 - Misty
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@mottmann2898
@mottmann2898 7 ай бұрын
That final scene where V turns around and literally becomes another nameless body in the crowd hits so hard. Show that scene to anyone else, and they would just see an animation of a busy street, not knowing that one of those people at once had the power to take on arasaka tower alone. Johnny’s greatest warning rang true. The worst thing you can do to a person is take away their identity.
@KubaxKristallmond
@KubaxKristallmond 7 ай бұрын
Yet V has a chance to write a new chapter. That's all that counts.
@ieatgrass108
@ieatgrass108 6 ай бұрын
This is very true. The legend of NC turned into this. Atleast with other legends they got went out in glory like David and Johnny, but V? Ended up like this is worse than dying in a blaze of glory at arasaka tower. My other problem with this ending is Johnny 😢. So sad to leave him like this. All ending in this game have compromises. The biggest life lesson this game teaches is that.
@lukaspodany5210
@lukaspodany5210 6 ай бұрын
@@ieatgrass108 but now V has other options, with his talent and experience he can be a trader or a teacher for mercenaries...
@serronserron1320
@serronserron1320 6 ай бұрын
I don't know. Even if you have the power to massacre random employees in a tower, that's only one building owned by a global corporation.
@dumdum93
@dumdum93 6 ай бұрын
You guys looked into that final scene too hard, his chrome are gone but his greatest weapon is still there: the mind. Become a fixer, make smart businesses, hit the gym, acquire a super suit that turns you into Iron Man so that you can be a killing machine again without changing your body, the options are limitless.
@jprodboss
@jprodboss 6 ай бұрын
“Quiet life, or blaze of glory?” This is the quiet life ending, and it hits like a truck
@mirasm.573
@mirasm.573 6 ай бұрын
so much more than a stupid computer game, right?
@ancy1205
@ancy1205 4 ай бұрын
Quiet life is also good. Live for yourself, not for other to admire.
@asherdanielson1298
@asherdanielson1298 4 ай бұрын
@@ancy1205but it’ll never feel right after you spent your whole life waiting for the blaze of glory.
@Isaturtle
@Isaturtle 4 ай бұрын
Quiet life ain’t an option, that’s blatantly clear now
@Tokahontes
@Tokahontes 4 ай бұрын
Would rather die chasing Hedonism and Glory. Than live a century in the Quiet life, as just another Nameless Face in the crowd.
@truckwarrior5944
@truckwarrior5944 5 ай бұрын
The ending just shows how little V actually had. When he was strong, he had countless people trying to be on his good side and help him. Even more people trying to offer him work. The moment he lost that, he is alone, he is a nobody, because all he had to define himself by was strength that wasn't even really his. Only people he had that liked him for him were Vik, Misty and Jacky.
@user-vu4xr4ej7x
@user-vu4xr4ej7x 5 ай бұрын
only the strong thrive in night city , i honestly think this may be the best ending for V , a new chapter
@PeferG17
@PeferG17 5 ай бұрын
@@user-vu4xr4ej7x Don't fear the reaper is my vote for the proper ending, but I suppose it all ties back to Dex's question at the start of the game "Quiet life or blaze of glory?" everyone has a different answer.
@bol8122
@bol8122 5 ай бұрын
@@PeferG17I always struggled to understand dex’s point of view but after seeing both endings I finally get it
@PeferG17
@PeferG17 5 ай бұрын
@@bol8122 it's interesting, I definitely don't agree with all the endings but I can see arguments for each of them. That potential is what shows the game has amazing writing
@bol8122
@bol8122 4 ай бұрын
@@PeferG17 True and i saw a lot of people hate on the new dlc ending but to me its the most realistic time moves on people you thought were once invaluable in your life become nothing but a memory and the ending can be seen as either hopeful or not depending on if you see the chance to start life a new losing your old friends as a good or bad thing
@maning04
@maning04 7 ай бұрын
Its gut wrenching to see V completely powerless against a regular thug not like what used to be back 2 years ago. Seeing him just become like any other regular folk is just depressing, losing almost everything he had in his life.
@orwellmushaikwa2591
@orwellmushaikwa2591 7 ай бұрын
Compared to the other endings, I think this one hits hard the most. I still think it is a good ending. Definitely not the likes of devil ending. This to me feels on par with the Sun ending, it is actually the antithesis of that ending in a way. In both endings, V pretty much kinda ends up alone, his/her lover leaves/moves on. With sun V is a legend but is still looking for a cure for his/her condition and definitely looks like there's no peace for V. This one is the exact opposite, V gets a chance at living a peaceful life with no more bloodshed. Also kinda makes me think of the reality a lot of veterans deal with. Returning home with life changing injuries. In a way I imagine they feel a similar level of helplessness V feels, the world doesn't even spare a second to acknowledge their life sacrifices, it just moves on with or without them. Unfortunately for some, it is an overbearing reality that leaves them homeless, helpless and in despair.
@timkanaev2092
@timkanaev2092 7 ай бұрын
@@orwellmushaikwa2591 I think opposite. In this ending V lost everything. His friends moved on without him, he can't achieve his dreams anymore, he feels fragile now. Absolutely alone in Night City. Ending would've been better if he didn't return to NC. I think ending where Johnny takes V's body is kinda the best one. Because in all other endings V will die eventually, but Johnny can live and the vibe and the music of this ending is bittersweet and hopeful.
@orwellmushaikwa2591
@orwellmushaikwa2591 7 ай бұрын
@@timkanaev2092 I also concur on the Johnny ending. To be fair, the other endings where V takes over instead of Johnny, V technically dies in those. Could even argue that the V that leaves Mikoshi isn't the V we played as the whole time but rather a mimic because as I understand it Alt actually uses soul killer on V, makes a copy of V's consciousness and reuploads it into V's body which by now has been overriden to the point where it is more compatible with Johnny than V. I don't fully understand the concepts there but it does seem from that perspective that the only good end is with Johnny taking over and having a second chance at life in a new body. Kinda like Saburo Arasaka taking over his son's body. There is a fair argument that our V actually dies regardless, and the only ending he survives is with the tower ending. When I think about it that way, Johnny taking over really doesn't seem so bad to be honest lol. But for me tone-wise I guess I prefer the star ending which seems a lot more hopeful, for V or rather mimic V as some may put it lol.
@timkanaev2092
@timkanaev2092 7 ай бұрын
@@orwellmushaikwa2591 yeah I absolutely agree. If you choose Vs endings you basically kill two souls. With Johnny at least you can save him. And honestly I would've gave my life for Johnny. Not everyone deserves a second chance and I think Johnny is worthy of that
@wei270
@wei270 7 ай бұрын
i feel this is the worst ending, if you live just for the sake of living....... then what is the point, just to suffer another day so you get two more weeks of pay check? even the second worst ending where you becoming arasaka prisoner there is still the hope that things will get better in the future.......... but in this one you know you have no future.
@bramenplukker5098
@bramenplukker5098 7 ай бұрын
A thing to speculate on is when you enter Misty's shop before this end mission and ask about her relationship between her and Mama Welles, she says that after they had a good talk she tries to almost adopt Misty with the way she is behaving. And after two year she kind off looks like Mama Welles.
@sambuck8710
@sambuck8710 7 ай бұрын
Fuck me that's insane that you made that connection. Devs probably deliberately did it.
@mencobasukses97
@mencobasukses97 7 ай бұрын
yea man, I believe that should be an option for V too, ditch the FIA, just find new purpose while still have Misty along to help
@tylerplayzz8697
@tylerplayzz8697 7 ай бұрын
Was thinking that too
@angelgutierrez9581
@angelgutierrez9581 6 ай бұрын
Misty says that after the funeral, regardless. For me, she said it over the phone at the beginning of the game.
@ColonelBragg
@ColonelBragg 6 ай бұрын
Misty looks more attractive with long hair IMO
@GreenBro11
@GreenBro11 7 ай бұрын
Victor and Misty truly were your only real friends in Night City, them and Jackie. Everyone else flipping leaves V out to dry.
@jugh022
@jugh022 7 ай бұрын
Yes, everybody left him... Was so sad. When Reed left him in the room, I almost broke
@Captain_Mercury
@Captain_Mercury 7 ай бұрын
Except Kerry
@ProdukcjaFilmowaNo3d
@ProdukcjaFilmowaNo3d 7 ай бұрын
@@Captain_Mercury Kerry wants to be friends but simply dont have a time anymore
@steak5599
@steak5599 7 ай бұрын
@@jugh022 I think V and Reed ended up being the same way. They were both legends at once point, but in their end, they were broken and alone with no control over anything. Wither away behind a desk job. Johhny said Reed would simply hang himself, and V is the same way.
@trolltime2128
@trolltime2128 7 ай бұрын
Wdym jackie died lmao
@dakota7745
@dakota7745 6 ай бұрын
Found out Viks voice actor had passed away a few years ago and they are using an AI to record his new voice lines here, with permission from his family. Honestly, i never knew the difference. Rip Miłogost Reczek
@blizzard3716
@blizzard3716 6 ай бұрын
Thats because it was his polish dub voice actor
@blankblank2370
@blankblank2370 6 ай бұрын
That's gross.
@Misty76
@Misty76 6 ай бұрын
​@@blankblank2370why? We are using AIs to copy almost everything, why draw the line just because someone died? It isn't like you're desecrating the corpse
@TastyTardis
@TastyTardis 6 ай бұрын
@@blankblank2370 Don't worry, the Family even got money for it.
@simonandsimbagaming
@simonandsimbagaming 6 ай бұрын
@@blankblank2370 I feel like if it’s just finishing work it’s fine. It’s when they’ll try to create new stuff with dead actors or musicians that worries me.
@natesnarrations7215
@natesnarrations7215 7 ай бұрын
“Surviving is winning, everything else is bullshit” -Michael from GTA 5
@ellieanator
@ellieanator 3 ай бұрын
this... makes me feel better
@johnstamps4829
@johnstamps4829 Ай бұрын
@@ellieanatoronly issue is Michael was lying to himself and realized the betrayal wasn’t worth it. Look how Micah Bell used that ideology
@kiekeyz
@kiekeyz 7 ай бұрын
Damn this one is so bitter sweet. V gets to live, but he's now all alone. WOW. CDPR always gonna throw a gut punch man, damn.
@BananaPubez23
@BananaPubez23 7 ай бұрын
What can I say other than there is no happy endings in night city
@youngbloodwolf6929
@youngbloodwolf6929 7 ай бұрын
Only company able to do a good Story, they've lived it up since Bauldur's gate released.
@arsenkurmangali2997
@arsenkurmangali2997 7 ай бұрын
so in the end its like the Dex said Blaze of glory with OG endings or quiet life with the new one... It was been in the works from the start
@orzy-ud5dx
@orzy-ud5dx 7 ай бұрын
To quote Johnny silverhand wrong city, wrong people.
@leintati
@leintati 7 ай бұрын
Considering there is a second game in the works. Wouldn't be surprised if you are V still alive with one of the endings being Canon and going forward.
@SinisterMinister616
@SinisterMinister616 7 ай бұрын
As someone else pointed out, this ending has the same results as the others but V actually sees it happen this time.
@ravenblood1954
@ravenblood1954 6 ай бұрын
Not necessarily, for one we don’t know what effect on the city Arasaka going up in flames would be. For another, this is 2 years. If V lives in the other endings V could be around to help Vick or Misty.
@nillabeany
@nillabeany 6 ай бұрын
The ending where V runs the afterlife (The Sun) and the Aldecaldos ending (The Star) do put V in a position to help their NC chooms later, whether it be through aid or getting them out of NC. In The Sun ending sets him up survival by taking on Mr. Blue Eyes' Crystal Palace job. The Sun "is a card of freedom, renewal and a bright future that lies ahead" implying there's hope ahead. For the Nomads, "The Star is the card of hope. In the darkest of nights there is a light that shines the path to home." and Misty says "Looks like you've got a good life ahead of you in the badlands." You can say tarot is goofy irl, but Misty is always able to predict what's going to happen next when you go to her for reads. There's hope he can help, but no hope in the new ending. He's a normal guy in the new ending, but it's the least hopeful aside from suicide. Point is-> This depressing ass shit isn't set in stone. [PHANTOM LIBERTY ENDING SPOILER BELOW] Mr. Blue Eyes also promised to cure Songbird if she makes it to the moon (I sent her there cuz fuck NUSA). What he wants in exchange for curing Songbird, idk. Probably relates to her likely being the human with the most experience beyond the Blackwall besides those who have been fully integrated into the Net and completely losing their physical body like Alt Cunningham. She's also a walking WMD and can harness the BS beyond the wall like she's a damn Cyber wizard.
@MrWasian
@MrWasian 6 ай бұрын
​@@nillabeanyeven with the new ending, we still don't have any endings where V will become relevant. Every ending V becomes irrelevant in some way either because the chip will kill them, they get uploaded, or the inability to use cyberware making them insignificant. V simply is another page in NC's history as to how large that entry might be depends on the ending you go, but 10, 20, 30, etc years V won't be remembered like Bartmoss or Silverhand outside of maybe the Sun ending.
@nillabeany
@nillabeany 6 ай бұрын
@@MrWasian I gave reasons as to why V would live and still be able to help their friends in the Sun and Star, unlike the new PL ending where you are a powerless shitter whose connection with friends has weakened due to being gone. I successfully got my point across. The topic of their relevance, clout, and NC legend status never came up at all lol. I wasn't talking about that, Doomer Darren.
@MrWasian
@MrWasian 6 ай бұрын
@@nillabeany why are you getting so offended over a discussion already? I introduced new POVs to the discussion, that's the point of having a discussion. It's not an attack on you lol Talk about getting riled up over nothing. Going with the nomads, V can't return to NC after the escape. They also still have less than a year left to live. Same thing applies with the orbital heist, 6-months. V can potentially help friends within that time period, but V still gets zeroed by the aftermath of the chip. FYI touch some grass if you think someone trying to have a discussion is an attack on you personally.
@2Scribble
@2Scribble 7 ай бұрын
Makes sense that this is the route CDPR would go - out of all of Dex's proposals ' Would you rather live in peace as Mr. Nobody, die ripe, old and smelling slightly of urine? Or go down for all times in a blaze of glory, smelling near like posies, without seeing your thirtieth?' Dying 'old and smelling slightly of urine' was the only ending that wasn't really represented And I give you A V who died old, ripe and smelling slightly of urine...
@hylianglitchmobber7570
@hylianglitchmobber7570 6 ай бұрын
Wow. I never thought about like that. You're completely right though. They spelled it out for you from the very start
@Your-Least-Favorite-Stranger
@Your-Least-Favorite-Stranger 6 ай бұрын
I wonder what Dex us up to these days :D *flash to a skeleton in the junkyard*
@asain3586
@asain3586 6 ай бұрын
​@@Your-Least-Favorite-Stranger He wants to live like a bitch, he gonna die like a bitch
@ryougishikir
@ryougishikir 6 ай бұрын
People glorify that like living peacefully isnt fun at all lmao. Just fuck girls and play video games
@Aristocratic13
@Aristocratic13 6 ай бұрын
@@Your-Least-Favorite-StrangerLol next to Bart
@deangeloellis729
@deangeloellis729 7 ай бұрын
It hurt seeing V so broken.....
@laquanlucas6953
@laquanlucas6953 7 ай бұрын
Yeah and got rob by bums
@enenrax
@enenrax 7 ай бұрын
At least V still has weapons and can use Malorian without chromes, V just needs time and training.
@laquanlucas6953
@laquanlucas6953 7 ай бұрын
@@enenrax it sad that he cant even fight back against low tier petty thieve. i do agree V do need training get back how he use to be.
@totalrko
@totalrko 7 ай бұрын
He'll be back on his feet in no time. Just because he can't chrome himself doesn't mean it's over. He can get Biotech and be a peak human being. Just not something that doesn't resemble a human
@enenrax
@enenrax 7 ай бұрын
@@laquanlucas6953 V was weak from being in a coma for 2 years, she/he will be able to return to being a mercenary without chrome in a matter of months, she already knows how to fight, she just lost her muscles and she/he will be very tired for a whole week, but by 2080 she/he will be at their peak again. that's why I think this ending is good, she gained a second life, but she still has a direction for the rest of her life, Rogue/Wakako/Regina/Blue Hands/Muamar/Father still lives.
@Senzunia
@Senzunia 7 ай бұрын
When you compare this V to the V you had that was amped up with chrome and could take on the world, it’s heart breaking. I hope in this ending V can find some peace, maybe slowly get his strength back, and find a new purpose
@therearenoshortcuts9868
@therearenoshortcuts9868 7 ай бұрын
living to fight another day... if he/she lives to 80, it would be like 2140s... maybe they will have the tech help him/her by then...
@Jay3up
@Jay3up 7 ай бұрын
V will be able to train themselves up again but they will never be as powerful as a fully chromed merc. V will forever be crippled
@aerosdacillo1227
@aerosdacillo1227 7 ай бұрын
well V will unless he turned into Adam smasher body
@Jay3up
@Jay3up 7 ай бұрын
@@aerosdacillo1227 you mean going full borg? I don’t think that’s possible for V if his/her body can’t even handle simple combat implants anymore
@Foogi9000
@Foogi9000 7 ай бұрын
​@Jay3up The V that could solo Arasaka Tower is gone. I suppose the important thing is legacy. V made a legacy for themselves and managed to destroy Adam Smasher. So while this ending is sad and bittersweet it also has a hint of hope for V moving on and away from NC.
@TheArrowsPath
@TheArrowsPath 7 ай бұрын
Somehow this is the best and worst ending.
@Ghxst_2023
@Ghxst_2023 7 ай бұрын
yeahh. ive not called Reed for this reason. Good bc V isnt gonna die, bad bc everyone is gone
@goodjoshua9281
@goodjoshua9281 7 ай бұрын
But this ending gave me more courage to live through the endings of the game. Honestly, I just put more of my love and care more about V. Sure the people he meets are great but those people are second in line for me. Main character always mattered most from my role play perspective. So I loved this ending.
@alexsolomon8127
@alexsolomon8127 7 ай бұрын
nah...Devil ending is still the worst. and this is HARDLY the best.
@CT_Phipps
@CT_Phipps 7 ай бұрын
@@alexsolomon8127 Sadly, this is probably what happens if V dies too.
@smaug9617
@smaug9617 7 ай бұрын
I went with Panam and it was and it is still my favorite one.
@Wolf-bz6kq
@Wolf-bz6kq 7 ай бұрын
Remember, Morgan Blackhand was a minimalist and still became a legend, V still has his experience and skills
@samuraibear5102
@samuraibear5102 7 ай бұрын
Tech wasn't as good back than
@Wolf-bz6kq
@Wolf-bz6kq 7 ай бұрын
@@samuraibear5102 emp rounds and grenades along with incendiary weapons can even the playin field
@yesman121
@yesman121 7 ай бұрын
Blackhand still had some chrome though, just not as much as most solos. V has none. And while V does have experience and skill, it's not the same as Blackhand's who was highly trained thanks to his years in the US Military. They're just not comparable. The whole point of this ending is that V effectively abandons his life as an edgerunner and is now just another face in the crowd.
@roggonval
@roggonval 7 ай бұрын
​@@Wolf-bz6kqbasically batman
@SPYDER04162
@SPYDER04162 7 ай бұрын
@@yesman121 Its possible V was a vet himself with some dialogue options hinting at involvement in the unification war so he might still have some similar experience to Blackhand.
@silent0089
@silent0089 6 ай бұрын
Most people say it's painful for V being chromeless and most left him behind but I saw V smirks thinks there's a shed of hope for him
@insertname3977
@insertname3977 5 ай бұрын
It's basically a fresh start where he can become anything he wants. Hell if he wants to start edgerunning again he can just get bioware which doesn't have the same limitations as cyberware with how it works, and doesn't run the risk of cyberpsychosis. It's found throughout Night City, and isn't exactly gonna cost him an arm and a leg. If he feels out of touch then he can always go to Europe which as a continent uses more bioware than cyberware so he'd fit right in.
@endlessnoodle3056
@endlessnoodle3056 5 ай бұрын
@@insertname3977 even without any modifications, all V needs is some time to recover his muscles and a change of tactics. And there you go - another Blackhand is born. V has more than enough combat experience for it. Worse case scenario, he has made enough connections in Night City to easily become a Rogue-level fixer.
@goopguy548
@goopguy548 3 ай бұрын
​@@endlessnoodle3056even blackhand needed chrome.
@goopguy548
@goopguy548 3 ай бұрын
​@@insertname3977doubt bioware would work either. he's broken to an impossible to understand degree
@alexv1154
@alexv1154 3 ай бұрын
@@goopguy548 well FIA and Vik both said it was his brain connecting to the chrome or rather not connecting was the problem. Bioware acts as direct replacement for biological components, replacing muscles with stronger, putting nanoweave under the skin, etc. most of it doesnt' connect to the brain or nervous system in any way different than your normal meat bits.
@bigdaddy94368
@bigdaddy94368 7 ай бұрын
I mean, we wanted a way for V to live a long life and we were given exactly what we wanted.
@shadowmaster335
@shadowmaster335 7 ай бұрын
hmm, a certain phrasing springs to mind "be careful what you wish for"
@milkywayhuizar5641
@milkywayhuizar5641 6 ай бұрын
This reminds me of the ending for Black Flag. Sure everyone's gone but you came out surviving. Eventually you'll find another purpose in life and Edward didn't really look back.
@zzodysseuszz
@zzodysseuszz 6 ай бұрын
@@milkywayhuizar5641yeah, I think V still has the options to find something like that. After all, he’s living the life of us regular folks now
@kikosawa
@kikosawa 6 ай бұрын
Not what we wanted, but what we've asked for. No one wanted... this for V.
@lozoft9
@lozoft9 6 ай бұрын
In the world of Cyberpunk 2077, if you aren't chromed up, you're likely not going to live long. All the oldest characters have some sort of cybernetics. It's partly b/c of the rampant crime and murder but also b/c implants are also a treatment for many life-shortening illnesses.
@falafelbil455
@falafelbil455 6 ай бұрын
Vik and Misty are truly goated, it was very comforting talking to Misty, especially after calling everyone realizing that V lost them.
@Aldairion
@Aldairion 2 ай бұрын
Shout out to Delamain too
@bengunn9670
@bengunn9670 Ай бұрын
Kerry is sort of still there tho. Rouge too, to certain extent.
@MrKylljoy
@MrKylljoy Ай бұрын
@@AldairionDelamain my brother
@journeymanX
@journeymanX 6 ай бұрын
fans: we want V to live CDPR: alright fans: yey!!! CDPR: but there's a catch.... fans: DAMMIT
@kikosawa
@kikosawa 6 ай бұрын
You can always keep Johnny alive... Just sayin
@ChrisCarrasquillo
@ChrisCarrasquillo 7 ай бұрын
V managed to get his life back but the law of equivalent exchange hit him like a brick.
@kikosawa
@kikosawa 6 ай бұрын
Maybe V would manage to save themselves in some other way. Blue Eyes helped Songbird, maybe he'll figure something out for V too
@VORASTRA
@VORASTRA 6 ай бұрын
​@@kikosawabut we will never know since there is no clear conclusion to any other ending.
@kikosawa
@kikosawa 6 ай бұрын
@@VORASTRA it doesn't matter as much as people here say all the time, though. V is already a legend of NC, what's more to want?
@Chadius_Thundercock
@Chadius_Thundercock 6 ай бұрын
Eh, he mainly lost “friends” he only knew for like a month. His genuine actual friends, Viktor and Misty are still around, plus after a couple years he can get back to full strength. With the money he has, he could start a new life without worrying about a chip frying his brain. This is probably the best ending he could have
@michaelbenjamin2634
@michaelbenjamin2634 6 ай бұрын
She gets to live but lost her life.
@Gamers-Haunt
@Gamers-Haunt 6 ай бұрын
V accomplished what so few ever have. Walking out alive. Many Runners dream of accomplishing that.
@prismanic24
@prismanic24 7 ай бұрын
Misty looks great with that hair style
@thedamnedcat3240
@thedamnedcat3240 7 ай бұрын
i thought it was jackies mom in the thumbnail
@neofulcrum5013
@neofulcrum5013 7 ай бұрын
@@thedamnedcat3240same
@bhart3321
@bhart3321 7 ай бұрын
Looks way better than the Sil hair.
@Akeche
@Akeche 7 ай бұрын
@@thedamnedcat3240 Probably where she got the inspiration from :)
@tomisabum
@tomisabum 7 ай бұрын
I dig the line there about the pendant and being told to not go looking for it. Given the context of where V usually contemplates it or even casts it aside, mentioning it says a lot with a little.
@AlexAlex-cq8lz
@AlexAlex-cq8lz 7 ай бұрын
What’s the meaning you interpreted from it im curious?
@ddlakes
@ddlakes 7 ай бұрын
@@AlexAlex-cq8lz let go of the past, move on
@falloutraider4168
@falloutraider4168 7 ай бұрын
Let go, begin again
@peterparker3668
@peterparker3668 7 ай бұрын
⁠@@falloutraider4168it’s letting go…
@angelgutierrez9581
@angelgutierrez9581 6 ай бұрын
​@AlexAlex-cq8lz I think the pendant represents V's old life with Jackie, even in the other endings. *Other endings spoilers* If you give in to arasaka V holds on to pendant almost like they just want things to go back to how they were. They're so desperately clinging to life that they give everything to arasaka. When V decides to not give in during the arasaka ending, they actually instead rip off the pendant, and throw it away, representing them actively accepting their future. The difference in this ending is V just forgets it, and first is distressed, they want their old life back but now they have to forget it, it's less of a choice now, they have to move on, and while sad at how it's forced they WILL move on, just like mitzy did. Even in an ending like this, there's that to be happy about.
@Heiryuu
@Heiryuu 7 ай бұрын
We lost everything We had to pay the price Yeah we lost everything We had to pay the price - Johnny Silverhand
@kikosawa
@kikosawa 6 ай бұрын
Don't you put Johnny here! Quiet life doesn't align with his early ideals.
@Heiryuu
@Heiryuu 4 ай бұрын
@@kikosawa that’s kinda what I was getting at. V gave up everything to be saved by a glorified Corp. And now he’s paying the price.
@Ceejay688
@Ceejay688 7 ай бұрын
Even with the other endings after V dies Vik's still gonna get bought out, Misty's gonna leave town and everyone else moves on. For me this feels slightly less depressing than the other endings.
@ensarhasanic4963
@ensarhasanic4963 7 ай бұрын
Viktor's not going to get threatened to buy out by Zetatech if Afterlife boss V and his connections are looking out for him and the clinic. And despite that,who knows what kind of landscape Night City and it's corporations are left in after main game Vs assault on, and crippling of Arasaka
@Taschip
@Taschip 7 ай бұрын
​@@ensarhasanic4963Without Arasaka I assume a massive power vacuum of corps would happen, most likely Militech would take things over in their place.
@IntertwiningRoses
@IntertwiningRoses 7 ай бұрын
I don't know about that actually. If they knew he died, and if you choose the Blackwall ending and Johnny is in V's body, then they might fight to rebel still. Personally, I think V's story is done either way. And going by the true ending of the DLC, the next game will either be smack dab in another corpo war or perhaps right before it.
@thecthuloser876
@thecthuloser876 7 ай бұрын
Not sure this is true. There are no happy endings in Night City and you'll never be able to kill the beast it is... But you can still leave your mark. While you don't see it in 2077, at least in the "Time of Red" (2045) Johnny Silverman still inspires people to pick up their guitar and rage against the machine. If you become a legend, your name matters. If V became the owner of the Afterlife and then went on one final heist, after already crippling Arasaka, but never came back..? That changes things.
@dream8870
@dream8870 6 ай бұрын
@@IntertwiningRosesprobably be another corpo war, also The rampant ai’s behind the blackwall, songbird fiddle with it and I’m certain they were already leaking out anyways, as it seemed to be hinted at when you meet Maman Brigitte and the other net runner who connects you to songbird again mentions it, also Netwatch trying to stop the rampant Ai from getting in.
@justinarredondo4067
@justinarredondo4067 7 ай бұрын
This ending hurt more than I expected. Mistys shop gone, cold lab, even if you start talking to Vik friendly....you can pick the dialogue where he doesnt even realize hes become so cynical and unhappy, that two years for V went in a blink so V can see the drastic difference where Vik couldnt. You can see the despair in Vik when he says this, the realization thay his life has fallen to worse. Also, I was actuslly expecting Misty to say she became a Solo or something with her new look. Dont even get me started on thr Silverhand convo in the AV before "this is it kiddo..."
@HeartlessKeyblade92
@HeartlessKeyblade92 6 ай бұрын
I think that Misty was the real one. She in the end, hugged V and kinda gave him a nudge to keep moving forward no matter what, start anew and do what you need to do to survive. Viktor was good in remembering him, but he ultimately sold out to corps under pressure. As least misty showed him a bit of humanity 😢
@rylan8046
@rylan8046 7 ай бұрын
I never actually considered it before for respect of Jackie, but, I really see V having a future with Misty. She’s the only person left (besides vik) that cares about you enough that they wanna include you in their life still. If I were V, I would have asked her if I could go to Poland with her. Or at the very least show up there later, and see where life takes me. I can see V ending up with her, whether it be completely platonic or something more
@Stargazzer811
@Stargazzer811 7 ай бұрын
Ya know....This actually sounds like the best ending of all right here.
@mencobasukses97
@mencobasukses97 7 ай бұрын
yeah, seeing their interaction, even I could see Misty is offering V to go with her
@Cyber_Samurai20
@Cyber_Samurai20 7 ай бұрын
Yeah, you know, I didn't think about it either but yeah, maybe it isn't so bleak for V after all. Maybe it's just me, but it almost seems like V is slightly happier to just be a normal person in the end. Especially that final scene when V begins walking amongst the crowd it almost looks like there's a slight smile on his face.
@WaltDevil060
@WaltDevil060 6 ай бұрын
@@Cyber_Samurai20 he is definitely smiling at the end
@Odium515
@Odium515 6 ай бұрын
cyberpunk IN Poland would be a neat sequel
@WalterWhite-jz7ct
@WalterWhite-jz7ct 7 ай бұрын
leave it to CdPR to leave no bad ending out...damn, this was more depressing than the early bow out on the roof
@illyaismaili6413
@illyaismaili6413 7 ай бұрын
Wrong city, wrong people. Don't expect a happy ending in the world of cyberpunk.
@WalterWhite-jz7ct
@WalterWhite-jz7ct 7 ай бұрын
@@illyaismaili6413 Gee, Thanks "Johnny". I get that the griddy realism is supposed to feel like a gutpunch and I do like it but if you play for 100 + hours with the knowlege that the ending will always suck, as a Story it might work but as a Game, it sucks in that regard. Reality is shit enough and a secret good ending (Like the combo of "Leaving with the Nomades" + "Saved Songbird" would have worked for an exeltent epilouge in which you get more than 6 month of life for all you've done)
@dugnice
@dugnice 7 ай бұрын
This is a happy ending. There's actually a line on the base game where V says "I just wanna live" (if the player chooses that line). V gets his wish in this ending, but at the cost of most of his friends and worldly possessions. I'd say it was well worth it, especially considering he is offered an opportunity to start a new life, where he doesn't have to steal or worry about being killed all the time, can earn a presumably good salary working a desk job and can always make new friends, which is what we do as adults in life anyway, we lose some friends and make new ones.
@WalterWhite-jz7ct
@WalterWhite-jz7ct 7 ай бұрын
@@dugnice V looses everything they Build up + 2 years of their Life. Female V gets to hear how Happy Judy is and Male V gets Ghosted by Pam and kind of by Kelly also (yeah I get it, VA trouble but still sucks) After playing as V, jumping, killing and saving the whole time in NC, do you truely belive they would be happy with a fucking Desk Job while being so damn weak they are highly unlikely to survive even a week in NC, let alone DT? So no...there were better ways to give us an ending that at least made sense but the only good one we get is to date Panam and leave with the Normads, while imagening our own Headcanon that Song soemhow didn't turn out to be 100% cunt and saves them in 6 months time .... I have never loved a Game so much while hating every ending it offered
@dugnice
@dugnice 7 ай бұрын
@@WalterWhite-jz7ct I think after the initial shock of what was lost, V would see that desk job as being real appealing compared to the alternative, a high likelihood of being beaten to death or blown into chunks in NC by some low level thugs. Clearly V was willing to risk it all to live, considering he risked dying in an instant trying to get a cure, attacking Arasaka or helping Songbird.
@dylanpullock6972
@dylanpullock6972 7 ай бұрын
As well written as this ending is, won't be doing it myself. Star is still my go to ending. Putting my trust in panam and the aldoes as a nomad just fits with how i played my V. And with aldos connections to stormtech, I'm hopeful for my V
@swingandamiss5942
@swingandamiss5942 7 ай бұрын
I guess the silver lining with this new ending is that since they found a way to get rid of the relic and maintain V’s lifespan that means there really is a chance for Panam and the Aldo’s to save V after all
@Shadowball19
@Shadowball19 7 ай бұрын
⁠​⁠@@swingandamiss5942 the aldos cut v off after being gone for 2 yrs
@LunaPPK
@LunaPPK 7 ай бұрын
I mean this ending isn't even well written lol. V makes out of character choices so does many if they friends
@swingandamiss5942
@swingandamiss5942 7 ай бұрын
@@Shadowball19 sorry I meant in the Star ending where V leaves Night City and joins the Aldo
@MythicShadow04
@MythicShadow04 7 ай бұрын
Tbh? This ending really isn't the best, since it relies on you not having completed the Judy, Panam, River, and Kerry quest lines; which at this point wouldn't be the issue for old players who beat the game already in pretty much every direction. Panam was going to fight hell and back for you in her ending and the Aldecados thought of you as family. As Fem V, Judy stays in Night City for you, and River and Kerry genuinely thought of you as friends. Hell, Panam in the Silverhand ending was going to hunt Johnny down and "rip V out of his head". Kinda hard to assume that people like that would ditch you so easily.
@gx4012
@gx4012 7 ай бұрын
Nothing has beaten leaving with Panam for me
@tiagopatricio3805
@tiagopatricio3805 7 ай бұрын
@@jedimaster2934THAT is the best ending!!!
@alexsolomon8127
@alexsolomon8127 7 ай бұрын
@@jedimaster2934 and Judy, for that matter(if you romance her and stick with the nomads.). with you theoretically using the Nomad clan's ties to Biotechnica as a possible cure for V. they ARE one of the few corps that would be likely to be able to do it.
@7Gull
@7Gull 7 ай бұрын
@@jedimaster2934 Leaving NC with Panam is a base game ending.
@gx4012
@gx4012 7 ай бұрын
@@jedimaster2934 yup it’s an ending I never get bored of, the very final scene was on the same level as David and Lucys scene when they are on the moon in my opinion. Male V has to be in a relationship with Panam though of course.
@cmdr_z
@cmdr_z 7 ай бұрын
@@gx4012 not necessarily...you have to be on good terms with the Aldecaldos, choose their help for the final mission and even with a female V you can leave NC with them...and if you romanced Judy she will go with you and the Aldecaldos...although V's survival hangs in the air it's still the best possible ending imo
@loweegee7876
@loweegee7876 7 ай бұрын
Even if this ending is made to make you feel sad, I still feel hope that V will rise again. Because in my playthrough, V had very little cybernetics. Only those that were necessary. At this point, he’s still weak due to being in a coma. I believe eventually, he’ll become as strong as he was. I also think that Panam will reach out eventually. She’s hurt now, but I believe it’s only a matter of time
@SPYDER04162
@SPYDER04162 7 ай бұрын
I like how it fits the other open ended endings. As bad as things look for V, Morgan Blackhand was a legend with only one cyber arm, and if nothing else at least he's owed a cushy desk job at Langley, which is better than most people could ask for.
@goopguy548
@goopguy548 7 ай бұрын
Can't get it back. Body is damaged, permeantly, couldn't build new muscle because it requires damage and repair, pair that with the nerve damage and he's always gonna be slow and weak
@Knightlychan
@Knightlychan 7 ай бұрын
V themself said on the ending, they can't even use the simplest combat implants. Only simple processors or stuff like that (not combat). Gameplay-wise, V is a damn tank even with no implants (and especially if you know how to play the game lol), now lore-wise is a different thing, because V can be the most chromed-up person on the entirety of the planet, but if they get shot at a cutscene (Like when you meet Reed on the spaceship), they instantly die
@lucasvieira0101
@lucasvieira0101 7 ай бұрын
Why is Panam hurt?
@ScotttheCyborg
@ScotttheCyborg 7 ай бұрын
@@lucasvieira0101 Because the love of her life suddenly ghosted her. Remember, NOBODY was told he was in a coma, so as far as they all knew, he was dead or ghosting them. She's rightfully angry about not knowing what happened to her lover, and then out of the blue when she's recovering from his ghosting, trying to go on, he decides to call her after two years. Yes, it's irrational, especially if she knows he was in a coma, but she had just torn down that wall and trusted someone, only for him to disappear. She's rebuilt that wall even stronger, and doesn't want to take the chance of being hurt yet again. It's the not knowing that hurt much more than a definitive answer that he had died.
@My-Name-Isnt-Important
@My-Name-Isnt-Important 7 ай бұрын
It would be nice to have two versions to this ending. This one, and a version where you leave with Misty. Since you're both normal people now it would make sense for them to just be with each other and move together from Night City.
@MsPysoul
@MsPysoul 6 ай бұрын
I wouldn't mind if as friends, but otherwise it would be unfair to Jackies memory.
@violettub6078
@violettub6078 6 ай бұрын
​@MsPysoul disagree on this, but it's a hot take for everyone. Has a older person who's dealt with death a bit in life, I think Jackie would be happy that they are both happy.
@My-Name-Isnt-Important
@My-Name-Isnt-Important 6 ай бұрын
@@violettub6078 Exactly! V and Misty have been through a lot and they both lost everything in Night City. Them being together would be the best thing for both, and Jackie would want them to be happy.
@Halikarz31
@Halikarz31 5 ай бұрын
@@violettub6078 yeah.. but also V doesn't have to fuck everyone that's a women. We should be fine with stories where friends and friends, and that's all that there is. Romance doesn't have to be the go to, and often it's better if it's not
@chaoticneutralgiraffe5514
@chaoticneutralgiraffe5514 6 ай бұрын
I don't think this is a bad ending. It's a completely fresh start. Lad knows the game in and out, and he could achieve many magnificent things, or just.... fuck it.... easy it and live a normal life. The possibilities is what you imagine them to be.
@Chadius_Thundercock
@Chadius_Thundercock 6 ай бұрын
Exactly, this is what I’m trying to tell people. This mf came from the brink, his brain melting because of a chip and he came back from that. Sure he still lost most of his friends, but let’s be honest, are people you only knew for a month actual friends? Plus his true friends still stayed loyal to him. He gets a chance for a new life, and even if he wants to be a merc again, in a couple years he can be at peak strength again and with his experience, became famous again. This is probably the best ending
@WouldYouKindlyGWAR
@WouldYouKindlyGWAR 3 ай бұрын
I dunno man sure V has experience but with no chrome you are gonna have a hella of a hard time playing on the same level as the rest.
@meeperdudeify
@meeperdudeify 2 ай бұрын
@@WouldYouKindlyGWARPlenty of ways to stay in the game with no chrome. Places V's been, connections made, past rep, all mean V could make a pretty decent fixer. Sure not top of the game, but certainly up there. 3rd rate at least
@johnstamps4829
@johnstamps4829 Ай бұрын
@@Chadius_Thundercockimpossible as their nerves and muscles are permanently damaged. Can’t even use simple combat implants. V indeed lived, and will never fully recover as they are crippled for life. The fight against the thugs showed this
@ixiahj
@ixiahj 7 ай бұрын
Hang on. Before V started doing work for Dex, his body was implant free. He and Jackie were already doing gigs before V even started chroming out.
@SilverWolf970
@SilverWolf970 7 ай бұрын
We're not completely implantless though. And 2 years in coma are enough to null all the trainings and skills we have.
@ixiahj
@ixiahj 7 ай бұрын
@@SilverWolf970 Except for the eyes, we can remove all implants now. Someone will eventually do a no implant fist only run using nothing but wrecking ball, quake and savage sling.
@DrAhzek
@DrAhzek 7 ай бұрын
Yes, and he was in top form. But now he is pretty much a broken mess after being in bed for two years. Muscles get hit pretty hard from something like this. It will take a few years to recover but by then it might be a bit too late for V to get back into action as a regular runner. This ending is cool as an option, not exactly bleak because he can still lead a normal life back in Langley. Normal isn't bad, especially in a world like this. V is just too deep in runner's lifestyle to consider it, with just enough of a taste of glory to want more. The only thing that doesn't add up is Panam and Nomads. It doesn't make sense to react that way to someone disappearing with all the shit going on. It would be my absolute last thought that they ghosted me and not just been kidnapped or killed by someone.
@alexsolomon8127
@alexsolomon8127 7 ай бұрын
@@SilverWolf970 and nevermind you don't really NEED implants to be a decent netrunner if you can afford the right daemons. if he has a basic neuraljack still functional, that means he can use a cyberdeck. that means he's still in the Game if he wants. this is just bad writing trying to pretend it's "thematic", while ignoring many of the endings folks like Gibson himself ACTUALLY wrote.
@SilverWolf970
@SilverWolf970 7 ай бұрын
@@ixiahj Still 2 years being a vegetable is enough to lose all motoric skills and strength you learn. This V's state isn't just going back to the start of the game. She's going back to THE start of everything.
@GalaxyKane
@GalaxyKane 7 ай бұрын
You live, but you lose it all. Nothing and no one to come back too. Not too far from reality.
@ninjaknight6715
@ninjaknight6715 6 ай бұрын
All the endings have their pro's and con's. In the end, it's not about winning, it's about how you want to end your story. My story personally, ends with a midnight escape with Panam on a Panzer, best ending.
@thegrammarpolice69
@thegrammarpolice69 6 ай бұрын
Truer words have not been spoken
@adrianvargas1380
@adrianvargas1380 5 ай бұрын
Indeed, my first ever ending, after wishing for the game for 2 years, buying it, and then waiting another year until I had a system could run it, I chose that ending. This game made me feel I hadn´t for a long time...
@thebigquack6945
@thebigquack6945 2 ай бұрын
First ever ending I got and I’m still yet to see a better ending
@s.a_3888
@s.a_3888 2 ай бұрын
@@thebigquack6945factsssss
@XANDERcanDRAW
@XANDERcanDRAW 7 ай бұрын
"You're remembered, by how you die." .... is it really worth it? V's goals since the beginning is to be remembered and become a Legend.
@blakebridges1030
@blakebridges1030 7 ай бұрын
Is becoming a legend really worth it though? No NC legend ever lives to enjoy their fame and wealth. Sooner or later they all get scraped off the sidewalk. Honestly becoming an NC legend is just a trap Night City sets up to draw in poor saps that it can devour and spit out.
@mickeyg7219
@mickeyg7219 7 ай бұрын
@@blakebridges1030 I think that's the message the creator of the franchise, Pondsmith, is trying to deliver. He didn't try to paint becoming a legend as a good thing, but rather as part of the problem that caused the world of cyberpunk to be what it is in the first place.
@PoppyGaming43
@PoppyGaming43 6 ай бұрын
well yea, but V was young and dumb back then
@SoaringxDragon
@SoaringxDragon 7 ай бұрын
This ending would have been a perfect way to introduce bioware into the game
@paulklp8262
@paulklp8262 7 ай бұрын
Thought you were referring to Bioware (EA). Would be sick if they delved a CP2077 game.
@SoaringxDragon
@SoaringxDragon 7 ай бұрын
@@paulklp8262 funnily enough I had to retype the B and W since they automatically capitalized when I originally wrote bioware. But no, did not mean the company. If you don’t know, or for anyone else who might read this, bioware was a different branch to cyberware in Cyberpunk. Instead of metal and tech replacing body parts, nanomachines/retroviruses/new organs/etc would be used to enhance biological functions. Think along the lines of Halo spartans without such heavy risks from the surgeries.
@zellarc8843
@zellarc8843 7 ай бұрын
@@SoaringxDragonwe definitely need that after this ending ;>
@cyberash3000
@cyberash3000 7 ай бұрын
nanotech no longer works on V the doc said@@SoaringxDragon
@WaltDevil060
@WaltDevil060 6 ай бұрын
​@SoaringxDragon Or the Space Marines of Warhammer 40k. All of their enhancements are completely organic
@paorousama
@paorousama 6 ай бұрын
V gets to stick around and see what happens after he's gone just like how johnny realizes that all his efforts were for naught after he died and how his friends all died, left their group or sold out to corpos Very poetic ending. Become a nobody or go out in a blaze of glory indeed
@Ghost996
@Ghost996 7 ай бұрын
I hate this ending, V gets to live but loses everyone and everything. I helped Judy and such from the start and she just straight up leaves poor V while she's in a coma. Despite what the two had been through, god this hurts honestly.
@MisterCynic18
@MisterCynic18 6 ай бұрын
Lol Judy leaves you in almost every ending. Out of all the epilogues Judy's was the most predictable. She fucking hates NC and has gone through like three gfs already. If you disappeared she would absolutely just move on with her life
@Reachland02
@Reachland02 6 ай бұрын
@@MisterCynic18that’s why I don’t like her
@GemKeeper87
@GemKeeper87 5 ай бұрын
@@MisterCynic18and that’s exactly why Johnny Silverhand was right about Judy being a 6/10. Judy at best is just an okay friend, terrible person to have a love life with tho.
@JayzVeez
@JayzVeez 2 ай бұрын
​@@GemKeeper87lol what? You expect a person to just wait 2 years for someone to come back from the dead? Judy thought V was dead. She had no response to her messages. At least Judy talks to V. Panam won't even talk to V and they are just friends not even a couple. Talk about spiteful and melodramatic. Judy is a much better person than Panam.
@WanderingAlchemist
@WanderingAlchemist 7 ай бұрын
I went for the legend ending. It's what Jackie would've wanted. Better a firestorm for a day then a candlelight for a year.
@kikosawa
@kikosawa 6 ай бұрын
Fuck yeah! That's what I'm talking about
@michaelbenjamin2634
@michaelbenjamin2634 6 ай бұрын
A candle light can fuel new embers for generations to come, even honoring jackies name to a flame
@jarhead10008
@jarhead10008 7 ай бұрын
You know, I’m ok with this ending except for Jonny being zeroed. V got his/her life back and honestly everyone that brushed the character off were merely people they met in a few weeks…. When you think about it…. Vic and Misty are the real deal!
@MerchAlts
@MerchAlts 7 ай бұрын
It seems that no one understood what the game wants to explain with the endings. "No matter what decisions you make, you will always have to sacrifice something to get what you want."
@travismeo3696
@travismeo3696 6 ай бұрын
This reminds me of how Jesse meets his 2 friends who were drug addicts who regardless of themselves, cared for him. Here for V, those 2 being Vic and Misty. Bittersweet.
@RaptorJesus
@RaptorJesus 4 ай бұрын
Let us never forget Badger & Skinny Pete, Jessie's real family.
@GoReachPastElevation
@GoReachPastElevation 6 ай бұрын
This ending made me feel like every relationship I had in the base game was just some surface level bull crap without any real substance. They all stop caring about V so easily
@porkopio9468
@porkopio9468 7 ай бұрын
Panam ending is still the best
@MastaKeahi
@MastaKeahi 7 ай бұрын
Especially now that we know it is possible to remove the relic.
@generaltullius6303
@generaltullius6303 7 ай бұрын
Phantom Liberty made me realise, that personally, I’d rather be surrounded by the ones I love with little time remaining
@delikatessbruhe9843
@delikatessbruhe9843 6 ай бұрын
Misty was my ray of sunshine after this route. This game really puts you through an emotional ride if you let it. Yet I never cried until this sentence 17:36 Her hopefulness in the face of devastation just broke me. Reminds me in a weird way of the ending of Outer Wilds.
@lucklesscope8367
@lucklesscope8367 6 ай бұрын
Everyone is talking about this ending all focused on V. I liked this bittersweet, yet open ending for V. But I choked up when seeing what miserable state Vic was in. Guy lost his clinic and became a slave to a bigger cooperation, he has lost friends over the years who either died or abandoned him.
@JakeRyanBooth
@JakeRyanBooth 7 ай бұрын
The Nomad ending will forever be the best ending
@DemonDragonify
@DemonDragonify 7 ай бұрын
This Ending show me one thing, what will happen if V died, because you have some month a left in others endings(except suicide, it will roll again but you will be death you wont see what happen next), Misty shop will burn one day too, Viktor will be in suits, Judy leave a city and getting Marriage (except if you are not romancing her as but again, after death) River to trauma team, well some outcomes will be changed but again, question mark is when it happen, if all will happen if last month will be V alive or not. This ending represent us in real life, once we are broken, we lose sight of reality we ghost our friends just not to see us broken, and we close to itself, this ending is what will happen once we try get back, they get over it, its our turn too.
@RobTheDoodler
@RobTheDoodler 7 ай бұрын
What makes me happy about this is that it confirms that V can survive some other way. Even if V always ends up weaker, they can live in peace with the nomads, be a motorhead in the desert and not have to live in that godawful meatgrinder of a city.
@roastinpeace2320
@roastinpeace2320 7 ай бұрын
V is still badass even without chrome.. They're still young, can rehabilitate and still be a night city legend. It's not chrome that makes you a legend..
@blakebridges1030
@blakebridges1030 7 ай бұрын
So everyone seems to think this ending is somehow bad for V. But what does becoming an NC legend even get you? Dead friends and broken dreams? Being a legend is a trap the city sets up so it can draw in poor fools that it can chew up and spit out completely broken. In this ending your alive which means you have options. You can leave NC and make something of yourself outside that hellhole of a city. As long as you live you have a chance. Being an NC legend just gets your body thrown into a dump.
@morganblackhand2020
@morganblackhand2020 7 ай бұрын
I agree. It sucks they lose their friends (and partners I'd you romanced anyone) but V isn't dead, they're not living on borrowed time anymore. The entire point of Cyberpunk was to survive. I've grown so attached to my character that any ending where she lives long term is good for me.
@Artaxerxes.
@Artaxerxes. 7 ай бұрын
you don't understand. V can't go to the afterlife to get pity from the other mercs. No judy because she's got her own life. Panam will never talk to you. Jackie is dead. And if you made friends with Songbird Reed and Alex, forget about seeing them again. V is a helpless chicken in Night City. Broke. And waiting to be devoured. This ending is the worst because V has to live miserably for the rest of his life
@morganblackhand2020
@morganblackhand2020 7 ай бұрын
@@Artaxerxes. Why wouldn't V see Reed again? The offer to work at Langley for the FIA remains open and depending on your dialogue choices, V can be more open to the idea. The ending is a bit open-ended for a reason.
@blakebridges1030
@blakebridges1030 7 ай бұрын
@@Artaxerxes. or V can not be a loser and make something of himself outside of NC. Why does everyone assume V will just be a miserable loser living on the streets waiting to die? Maybe your V is like that but my V is resourceful and determined to live no matter what so he’ll be just fine in this ending.
@yuezuha7970
@yuezuha7970 7 ай бұрын
@@Artaxerxes. My V was a former arasaka employee and a god tier netrunner even without chrome my V can still kick ass using old school tech maybe or using biotech in europe
@datastorm75
@datastorm75 7 ай бұрын
Probably the most realistic ending. I actually kind of like this. V gets to chart a new future.
@kikosawa
@kikosawa 6 ай бұрын
Every ending is realistic. At least in this universe
@theguywhomakesthetrees2057
@theguywhomakesthetrees2057 7 ай бұрын
No. Absolutely not. I get that 2 years in a coma would set anybody back to zero. But I played V as a Solo whose only implants were fake eyeballs, subdermal armor ,and a chip to ping enemies. All V needs is some rehabilitation and a few easy gigs and He's back to being the best in NC
@emm6101
@emm6101 7 ай бұрын
Morgan blackhand aka num 1 is almost pure human.
@yuezuha7970
@yuezuha7970 7 ай бұрын
true i think its just lazy writing
@BOTmaster15
@BOTmaster15 7 ай бұрын
This is more like starting from zero but on ultra-hard mode for him. He could still do gigs with proper equipment and training, problem is that he is out of shape and out of cash to buy gear. No crew to cover his back or safe heaven like his apartment. Picking that NUSA job is best he can do for now. Give it another year or two of deskwork and than he might be able to come back. Also this is our original V, not AI made from soulkiller copy like in other endings.
@yuezuha7970
@yuezuha7970 7 ай бұрын
@@BOTmaster15 He is not out of cash, he got offered a job from FIA, couple months working from the office there and he be stack
@mickeyg7219
@mickeyg7219 7 ай бұрын
@@BOTmaster15 There's no evidence that V lost his savings, at least for how sensible players played. It's just that V lost his rental apartment and weapons, but money have always been part of V's inventory regardless of the access to the stash. Moving back to the place you never have a permanent home in the first place is going to be hard, but if you have the money, you can get settled in just a few weeks.
@moisesfreire6408
@moisesfreire6408 6 ай бұрын
You know, if the sequel of Cyberpunk would ever have V at the protagonist again this is actually a pretty good beginning point. Because he surely is back at lvl 1 in this.
@alleksfc1167
@alleksfc1167 19 күн бұрын
Yeah but with no Cyberware? the selling point about this game its all about the future tech... a sequel with no Cyberware abilities or anything would just become your standard GTA game, you cant even use smart or tech weapons without Cyberware.
@daanabbring5409
@daanabbring5409 14 күн бұрын
I think the Panam (and Judy) ending is better. You still have friends, your abilities, you're going to a new environment but you still have the chip to deal with. I really think that a cure can feel earned with another game where you still face the same problem and defeat it. If life turns out to be better outside of Night City, Johnny and the chip have given V and friends something invaluable: a better life. It would be beautiful, no matter if you eventually manage to remove the chip or not.
@k4yser
@k4yser 6 ай бұрын
this was one of the most emotional endings ive ever experienced. It came at the end of a 150hrs+ ride, which lasted 2 years in which i saw every single ending. Having this as the last experience with my V was something intimate and emotional. Thank you CD Project Red. This was one of my best experiences within gaming and i didnt even saw it coming.
@gusfigueroa9790
@gusfigueroa9790 7 ай бұрын
nobody saying how future misty resembles jackies mom?
@kikosawa
@kikosawa 6 ай бұрын
some people saying
@ncrtrooper6619
@ncrtrooper6619 7 ай бұрын
I gotta be honest. This ending isn't as bad as everyone makes it out to be. Sure your friends/romances move on but its been 2 years and you knew them for a few weeks to months maybe? Plus all these characters constantly wanted something done from you, they didnt want V for just being V. Also, everyone saying they'll die hopeless and alone but I think its just mid writing (especially if you are a corpo start; because then joining Reed is legit like picking up where you left Arasaka except without chrome.) V has options: you can go to work with Reed, you can join Misty in Poland, you can try something out with Rogue, or you can leave everything behind and start anew.
@aden774
@aden774 4 ай бұрын
Rogue doesn't want to be seen with him. She leaves him a message asking him not to come to the Afterlife anymore because of what he has become and how much it would ruin his reputation.
@nasmokt
@nasmokt 6 ай бұрын
Was so suprised by the new look of Misty, loved this ending a lot!
@ryanwashere21
@ryanwashere21 7 ай бұрын
This is bittersweet. V's friends and allies have moved on from them and in some cases dont want to be bothered with them. Worse if you romanced one of them. Their neural system is so fucked that they can never use combat cyberware and possibly have to live their live as a normal person. All that hard work in mastering their skills and cyberware gone down the drain. But they lived, and hopefully can find some real friends and potentially overcone their damaged neural system. From a gameplay perspective it's sad and painful but from a "realistic" perspective they survived and can potentially live out their life in comfort.
@milkywayhuizar5641
@milkywayhuizar5641 6 ай бұрын
Yah this is a realistic ending. V got another chance at life which is extremely rare in Night City. This ending also gave me hope of seeing V in the next Cyberpunk game that's being developed.
@Halikarz31
@Halikarz31 5 ай бұрын
"real". V had real friends, then they dipped for 2 years. The perspective and responses from all V's acquaintances make 100% sense and do not devalue the relationships they had prior to the coma. A lot of people want bad writing where all the romance partners and friends bend over backwards for a guy they knew 2 years ago and dipped w/o notice. That's bad writing
@vulcanmemes9770
@vulcanmemes9770 5 ай бұрын
@@Halikarz31 V turning into a idiot and not remembering to text everyone that they might be gone for an indefinite amount of time and would understand if they didn't wanna hear from him ever again is apparently good writing too.
@sambuck8710
@sambuck8710 7 ай бұрын
I got this ending. Im actually alright with this ending because i saved up a million plus eddies. I think relationships come and end natually. Im surprised that panam wouldnt even talk to V, after knowing their circumstances. It feels a petty, but i guess its understandable as well. Im personally very happy ror misty, always thought she was disillusioned and idealistic about NC and its good that she is making a decision to find herself again. I think V can find themselves again somewhere else, and still get something out of life. Skills, experiences and money doesnt just disappear.
@WaltDevil060
@WaltDevil060 6 ай бұрын
My headcannon is that she tried to find V and either died trying or she gave up very reluctantly after a while. She isn't the type of person that abandons others
@MisterCynic18
@MisterCynic18 6 ай бұрын
Honestly I think Panam killed herself and Mitch is trying to spare you by saying to never call again.
@kikosawa
@kikosawa 6 ай бұрын
Hehe, didn't think about saving money for a rainy day like this :D V's soft and squishy, but drives a Rayfield on his way to a dentist
@iknowwhatthedogdoing8025
@iknowwhatthedogdoing8025 7 ай бұрын
Somebody's hanging on to the fact that V didn't die and is still around two years after everything went down in the main story. But what's the use of staying alive when all your loved ones are gone, or worse, broken? Judy and Panam are gone, Misty's dreams are shattered, Arasaka still calls the shots, and that major league promised to Jackie? It never happened. You're nobody now. Your story's faded away, and you've been forgotten. For me, this is the worst ending. Worse than the one where you ended your own life on a rooftop. Because now, you have to live through watching everything you love being torn apart.
@benwoodman1496
@benwoodman1496 7 ай бұрын
Hmm, Its like you gained liberty as a phantom
@BananaPubez23
@BananaPubez23 7 ай бұрын
@@benwoodman1496oh my god
@chrismiller5940
@chrismiller5940 7 ай бұрын
It's just like Dex asked at the start: "Quite life or blaze of glory?"
@iknowwhatthedogdoing8025
@iknowwhatthedogdoing8025 7 ай бұрын
@@benwoodman1496 He said it! He said the DLC title!
@blakebridges1030
@blakebridges1030 7 ай бұрын
I think it’s the complete opposite. Yeah V’s no longer a badass solo and his friends and dream of becoming a legend are gone, but what does being a legend get you? Dead friends and your body getting scraped off the pavement. Now V has no ties to NC, he’s free to leave whenever he wants and become whatever he wants. If David and Lucy got this choice in the anime we’d all want them to become faceless people in a crowd because at least they could live happy together.
@kikosawa
@kikosawa 6 ай бұрын
This ending made me FEEL Night City again. After 100+ hours the city becomes a playground, safe and predictable, loses all its dangers, like in any game. Each and every base game ending maintains that feeling of being... home. This one makes you feel alienated again.
@deatherusfather
@deatherusfather 7 ай бұрын
Damn so It's either Death or be forgotton and hated in a lost crowd🙁
@Epicjaack
@Epicjaack 7 ай бұрын
It's fine it's life , You will make new relationship with time. Time is very improtant it's more precious then anything
@kikosawa
@kikosawa 6 ай бұрын
​@@Epicjaackyou seen much happy people on the streets of NC? The ones who can't even stand up to bullies in the alleyways
@McDichaelSteve
@McDichaelSteve 7 ай бұрын
I guarantee in the next game it'll be up to dialogue options that determine V's fate. Probably something like "ever hear about that solo who had Silverhand in their head?" With each of the dialogues referencing the different endings. I think they're done with V storywise. The sequel might be a timeskip and hell, if V is somehow still around, he's either a fixer, an FIA agent, or somehow a full-borg.
@akiolife7198
@akiolife7198 7 ай бұрын
Seeing V getting his butt kicked by some lame ass shit like that, I just can’t believe it. He lost all the chrome he used to have too. This ending of this game made me realize things change with time. All the live hard, play hard, one day it will be gone. At the end of the day, you will be alone.
@MarinaraSource
@MarinaraSource 7 ай бұрын
Quiet life or Blaze of Glory. I guess V chose the quiet life.
@kikosawa
@kikosawa 6 ай бұрын
Yeah fuck this choice. But the fact that this ending is finally here is amazing. Such a great conclusion to this game's main philosophical question
@Argenite0
@Argenite0 7 ай бұрын
Actually you know this isn’t so bad. Look at Morgan Blackhand. He has basically no cyberware besides the black arm. He is incredibly skilled and is the greatest solo ever to exist. He’s so legendary that even Adam Smasher, a literal Borg, is not able to compete with his level of skill and ability even with a sandevistan he is incapable of killing Morgan Blackhand. How? Because MB is HIM. But besides that, if V can learn to survive without implants and focus more on training his body and his mind than relying on implants like he did before, there will be no need for them. I believe V could possibly make a comeback. When you’re at your lowest, no way to go but up. Still possible even in NC.
@kristiformilchev6417
@kristiformilchev6417 7 ай бұрын
Well this ending is really subjective to the build that you played with, for those that went guns blazing mostly pistols and ARs without any Netruning where possible really makes for the perfect ending where V survives and actually doesn't lose shit, occasionally being more fragile in first fights. So for a player that went trough this type of build after the surgery nothing pretty much changes, aside from losing the "friends" and all the money, cars ect.. But lets not joke around, we all know that we will get them again on the the next adventure.
@Akeche
@Akeche 7 ай бұрын
All that stuff you did with guns? It was aided by combat implants. Sure V can get his body back in shape, but he'll never be able to compete in the biz again and there's always the bad luck of running into a chrome'd up wack-job. The best ending might be V becoming a fixer himself.
@morganblackhand2020
@morganblackhand2020 7 ай бұрын
@@Akeche I mean, I completed the game without any additional cyberware, only using the Kiroshi Optics and Ballistic Coprocessor. My V killed Smasher and countless NC gonks.
@vc180191
@vc180191 7 ай бұрын
​@@morganblackhand2020 Attribute points are part and parcel representation of his combat implants, by starting the game with 3 in everything you already have been improved by the general cyberware that is part and parcel of V's body (don't forget, V already had a history with Viktor as his Ripper, he starts with a lot of hardware/software at minimum). This ending is basically if V had a 1 in everything, which is why even a street rat junkie is kicking his ass down the stairs.
@morganblackhand2020
@morganblackhand2020 7 ай бұрын
@@vc180191 That's not how attributes worked in Cyberpunk tabletop though, and I don't see anything in 2077 that suggests otherwise. They were similar to the HUMANITY and were unrelated to any sort of implant. Attributes are physical and mental. But yes, V is incredibly weakened after the coma but it doesn't mean they can't recover slowly.
@jingleding9002
@jingleding9002 7 ай бұрын
But with the incentive the rework added from only cyberware increasing armor shifts things a bit. Before that you could just wear clothes to survive getting shot but now you need to chrome your skin and bones to be able to resist a burst from an assault rifle. Losing the reaction enhancers like the sandevistan and kereznikov would also impact the ability to fight effectively against other chrome freaks
@melvinsmith8444
@melvinsmith8444 7 ай бұрын
honestly this ending isnt even bad tho i mean you lived bro. you were a secret agent a merc all that. you had a famous rock star in your head you banged pan am in that tank. bro you lived an adventurous life and you even said you can become a fixer. in my playthrough youre still rich as hell have hella places cars etc bro youre GOOD
@TheStevetree
@TheStevetree 6 ай бұрын
I like this ending. It kind of echos how the corpo life path ended, had it all now you're got nothing but you're life is your own again
@billyvbrown988
@billyvbrown988 7 ай бұрын
this ending feels like Geralt at the of blood and wine at the bonfire. Really touching
@lofistreet8233
@lofistreet8233 7 ай бұрын
The only bad part about this is what happens to song bird and johnny. Other than that everything is great. V puts behind the life of crime learning from his “major league “ attitude. A lot of people died in the story because they were not ok with being ordinary people. V in the end becomes an ordinary person and learns from his mistakes lives a happy life.
@Epicjaack
@Epicjaack 7 ай бұрын
Song bird & Johnny have killed innocent people , Don't see how there life is more important then others
@Senko4509
@Senko4509 7 ай бұрын
See I agree. I like how open this ending is. Up to the player to choose V's fate after the credits. I'd like to think they took up Solomon's offer. That's my ending. Continue living, otherwise everyone that died in the story. Jackie and Johnny, their sacrifices would have been for nothing. The only thing that was a punch in the gut for me was Johnny. But the AV ride comforted me when he called us his friend and said our real name in his final sentence. Just sad we couldn't keep our promise.
@Epicjaack
@Epicjaack 7 ай бұрын
@@Senko4509 I feel there needs 1 more expansion based on Corpo wars maybe in future Game of CP. We never got to do anythings to take down NC coporation like Johnny silver dreamed and make World better place.
@Dak1624
@Dak1624 7 ай бұрын
@@Epicjaack I bet Corpo war will be explored in future games.
@wei270
@wei270 7 ай бұрын
there is a difference with being ordinary and being oppressed, if you are ok with being oppressed then you are actually hurting others chance of fighting back, because when the ruling elites is actually exploiting the average population, you need every one to stand up, not doing so it further empowering the elites. in cyber punk the moment you stop fighting the corpos is the moment they win.
@bastiisalive
@bastiisalive 7 ай бұрын
damn....Mikoshi it is then.. Don't Feat The Reaper
@Roftastic
@Roftastic 7 ай бұрын
I played a Corpo FemV, romanced Judy. I still think that story, of a V that lived all three of the origins, finally leaving with the Aldcaldos, is the best ending thematically. You leave happy with your love, Judy, and die in peace knowing you finally pulled her out of Night City. Being a legend was never really an option for V. All roads lead out of Night City.
@XANDERcanDRAW
@XANDERcanDRAW 7 ай бұрын
But the Attack that puts Arasaka on it's knees still marked as a Legend feat. In the end V is still a Legend. Not to mention clapping Adam Smasher face to face.
@brandonphillips3711
@brandonphillips3711 7 ай бұрын
To be fair, killing adam smasher is sure to land you a legend title
@MisterCynic18
@MisterCynic18 6 ай бұрын
Also good to know she'll find somebody else to shack up with once you're dead lol
@JNCMerc
@JNCMerc 2 ай бұрын
I like to think that V is the literal definition of a edge runner and one of the legends. Took a bullet, fighting off the relic , making admen’s with Johnny silver hand , Flatlining Smasher , and getting a cure for the Relic, and disappearing into the crowd like a ghost.
@DarkUnity
@DarkUnity 6 ай бұрын
I chose the Panam romance ending and let Johnny live and after seeing this ending, I hoped that whether V survived or not he happy with Panam and still kept in touch with Viktor, Judy, Misty, Jackie mom and those interactions inspired them to have better lives….then this.
@thealmightyoreoking
@thealmightyoreoking 7 ай бұрын
As someone who highly fears death, I think I’d take my chances with ending up alone. Sure, I may have lost everyone I cared about but, those people would want me to move on and develop experiences and build new friendships with new people.
@Zangarang
@Zangarang 4 ай бұрын
Dang we all need a friend like Misty. I'm half a year out from a very heartbreaking breakup, and her talking to V is really moving. Her saying "don't go looking for it...doesn't matter anymore" hits home.
@robboss4740
@robboss4740 6 ай бұрын
What makes this even more unnerving and so uncomfortable, is the fact that during the gameplay, youll always hear gunshots, bumpin music, heavy metal, or some form of music. But this ending has absolutely no music whatsoever. I dont even think i heard any music in the street. Its just the crowd or people going on about their lives, as Vincent, not v, vincent fades into the crowd, becoming another regular person
@ironspidey2976
@ironspidey2976 7 ай бұрын
So v turn into an npc?
@Mr_Lunatic_Mr
@Mr_Lunatic_Mr 7 ай бұрын
😅
@neofulcrum5013
@neofulcrum5013 7 ай бұрын
Sadly
@Jay3up
@Jay3up 7 ай бұрын
Pretty much
@honkingclown
@honkingclown 7 ай бұрын
The issue with you people is that you take it at face value and don't think deeper, V is chrome-less but free & could decide whatever they want to do.
@kikosawa
@kikosawa 6 ай бұрын
​@@honkingclownwhat's your suggestion? Work at a diner? Try to become a fixer with no one backing you up? Would V even want that? There's not much hope in this world for those who can't fight back.
@Pandaman314
@Pandaman314 6 ай бұрын
Damn I got this ending last night. Was so shitty seeing how all of Vs relationships withered away. But man I felt actual joy when Vik picked up and actually wanted to see V, and running into Misty was even better. Somehow even in a situation like this, Misty still put things into perspective for V, a “face in the crowd” is what Misty has been her whole life and there’s nothing wrong with it. Realized how great Misty is as a person and friend. I just wish this ending gave us options at the very end like going to work at Langley, maybe trying to become a ripper and having Vik train you, or leave NC and go to Poland with Misty. Either way I think this is easily the best ending, it’s a gut punch and a half but it makes the most sense.
@DillonMeyer
@DillonMeyer 6 ай бұрын
2079 Seems like a good year. Things are darker than before. But the darker the night, the brighter the sunrise. At least in Night City.
@glazetrick3207
@glazetrick3207 6 ай бұрын
hes not even broken in the end or sad but at peace with the smile in the end. not sad or excited just the face of "i can rest now"
@tisFrancesfault
@tisFrancesfault 6 ай бұрын
One thing I love about this video is how spolier heavy it is in both title and thumbnail! ..good job.
@ezra5907
@ezra5907 7 ай бұрын
Don’t fear the reaper ending is probably the best ending in my opinion you either go out and that’s it for you and Johnny, or you make it to the end and fuck it that’s it V gets their revenge for Jackie and dies with no regrets becoming a hero and living in the net giving Johnny his second shot at a life he took for granted where he pushed everyone away and was selfish, he promises not to waste his second chance. Both get to live in their own way in that ending just in different ways.
@WaltDevil060
@WaltDevil060 7 ай бұрын
While this isn't my favorite ending (leaving with Panam is my favorite), I believe that this is the canon ending of Cyberpunk 2077. It's definitely pretty depressing, but it fits the tone of the game pretty well. Also, if V ends up becoming the protagonist in the next game, this is a great explanation of why we will have to start from scratch again
@MarkusZM
@MarkusZM 6 ай бұрын
even if they end up dying from cyberware and jacking in?
@mordisgaminggedons5119
@mordisgaminggedons5119 6 ай бұрын
Can See him/her as Main Fixer or Mentor for the next Game. Or they replace cybernetics with the european Biotech stuff(which seems to exist in universe).
@olivermahon5618
@olivermahon5618 6 ай бұрын
Nah I think the canon ending, which isn't my fav (leaving with Panam) is saving so mi then the secret ending it just fits, although it's still makes you feel empty
@virenrana6459
@virenrana6459 6 ай бұрын
If you take a deep breath and think about it,its actually good ending. Yeah he lost friends but we all do, he's not a thug anymore like a normal person. He can still live,make friends and he got Viktor.
@orochinagis
@orochinagis 6 ай бұрын
Jesús not even V closest friends decided to take care of him, just good luck and see you one day
@nekomancer4641
@nekomancer4641 7 ай бұрын
honestly, it's hard to see V not rising from this anyway knowing V's tenacity & the shit gone through
@r4nowo
@r4nowo 4 ай бұрын
I disagree. The saying 'what doesn't kill you makes you stronger' is bs. What doesnt kill lives you weak, tired and vulnerable. V doesnt become anyone after this, just another body in the grey masses. Sad ending.
@Foxhunter258
@Foxhunter258 7 ай бұрын
This ending is damn sad screw this im riding it out with panam .....least I'll be remembered instead of fading away in a dark corner
@Srjorm
@Srjorm 7 ай бұрын
yeah, I'm sticking to the "Don't Fear the Grim Reaper" story.
@RagnarHoff
@RagnarHoff 4 ай бұрын
Easily in my top 3 of saddest endings ever. The moment you wake up from a coma to find out everyone left you, only to have that heart warming ending with Misty.
@DrCoomer_1
@DrCoomer_1 6 ай бұрын
"One last question V, Quiet life... Or blaze of glory?"
@pejman3
@pejman3 6 ай бұрын
TBH I dont feel this being as bad ending as other people if you go corpo that's kinda like the prolog : you lost your job lost your cybernetics lost everything "I lost my life jackie" "no you regained control of it" here it's actually the same thing happening, V can make plans for his future and find a way, he doesn't have any pressure or anything weighing down on him. He isnt a tool puppetered by others in a desperate bid for salvation IMO it's the best ending. Plus if you were loaded already then you can just retire early, write a book and just enjoy life. Also there was a netruning option with the thugs so I wonder if he can still netrun (in which case there is a lot he can still do even without any physical implants) also there are other options to this ending, I mean becoming a fixer and using his experience on the field seems like a good option as well
@Tehstampede
@Tehstampede 7 ай бұрын
Misty's a banger without that goofy hair
@helioscephelles
@helioscephelles 7 ай бұрын
wish there was an option to go with misty to poland and live our lives in peace there..
@N0M4DY
@N0M4DY 7 ай бұрын
Should’ve been a option ngl
@protiliusproductions
@protiliusproductions 7 ай бұрын
Was thinking that myself… Misty is looking pretty good:)
@kikosawa
@kikosawa 6 ай бұрын
Misty is to cut ties with the city. V included, 'long as they're useless now...
@mackenziemcdaniel-paul8163
@mackenziemcdaniel-paul8163 3 ай бұрын
There's no reason V can't but at the same time I don't think V will. I see them spending another year in night city, doing some work with Vik around the shop for a bit and revaluate what they want out of life. What they do after is up to your imagination but I think it will be something more peaceful but still in the USA.
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