160hp less and missed a gear yet still ate the V8... All about retaining the speed through the corners
@filipecrash17395 жыл бұрын
Sometimes less meant more! :)
@henrysandoval13604 жыл бұрын
Actually thanks for that info I gotta practice that
@hesgotamotor82883 жыл бұрын
And where are the rotary's? Club racing lol, the rx7 is way light , you not comparing eggs with eggs, a motor cycle with a way smaller engine than the rotary will eat it right????? I also ate rx7s with my modified 351 Cleveland, I fucked them up they couldnt do the 250 kph that I was doing, also holden monaro 327 ate that up, and a MG turboed race car ,, a Toyota supra, Subaru wrx absolutely destroyed those, I ate everything on the road even other modern falcons, was hauling in a cop car once till I noticed oooh that's the police
@gamingmadesimple55103 жыл бұрын
@@hesgotamotor8288 your talking about straight line rolling street drags on a circuit race video. You arent comparing eggs to eggs. Straight line power is king always, in a circuit it's a balance of power and handling. Power will give you a leg up on the straight outs but can be overcome in the corners with better handling.
@hesgotamotor82883 жыл бұрын
@@gamingmadesimple5510 yeh, that's where the vpower mustang with Scott mc Laughlin will destroy rotary
@alejandromaciel80316 жыл бұрын
dont know about you, but i'm here for 2:40
@martywarner17796 жыл бұрын
Alejandro M ...yes,
@rucarnuts135 жыл бұрын
Nothing like a screamin’ 12A rotary, that’s for sure!
@almc-wi5vo7 жыл бұрын
Rotaries Rule!!
@hesgotamotor82883 жыл бұрын
Where are they!? Where? In the bin
@Benadryl_Overdoser6 ай бұрын
@@hesgotamotor8288 silly biased man from two years ago, stop crying
@TheGamerHenstrike6 жыл бұрын
The rotary sounds better, gives smoother power, is smaller, and is way lighter. Wonder why people like rotaries
@craigfleming95872 жыл бұрын
No shock here. V8 falcon starts its life as a family hack/ taxi. RX7 is a proper sports car
@keisuketakahashi73177 жыл бұрын
1:35 eurobeat intensifies
@claudedottin13127 жыл бұрын
keisuke takahasi 🤣🤣🤣
@identiticrisis5 жыл бұрын
More like breakbeat. But it's got that two-step feel, so: drum & bass. Who knows if Takumi even gives a shit.
@gnrsgl3 жыл бұрын
Didn't that presenter have a mean MR2?
@bigolbootycheeks91386 жыл бұрын
God the 20b 3 rotor sounds epic
@angelovercetti676 жыл бұрын
is this the british version of HotVersion/SuperMotoring?
@josephbrady7114 жыл бұрын
Aussie. High octane
@MrMeoow913 жыл бұрын
12a in a FC chassis...weird
@ImVaSc0 Жыл бұрын
That’s a 20b NA not 12a turbo
@ColtSSR5 жыл бұрын
Is that Rhys Darby lol
@darknez092404 жыл бұрын
2:42 OH BOI HERE WE GO AGAIN, ROTARY: BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH~~~~~
@josephstalin76633 жыл бұрын
Disliked it because of the stupid commentary and music. An onboard of both cars in 2 different videos would have been enough. No editing required
@FukU22228 жыл бұрын
12a turbo? lmfao sounds like a 20b to me.... Aussies are smarter than that, idk what they were getting on wif
@d.k.gaming38047 жыл бұрын
FukU2222 probably a 18a turbo. basically the 3-rotor version of a 12a turbo. smaller than the more common 20b 3 rotor
@Flyingdutchy337 жыл бұрын
So these are the excuses coming from the piston camp these days huh "He must've had an extra rotor" Imagine we started saying things like: "No m8, it must've been a V10, not a V8"
@rotaryperfection7 жыл бұрын
FukU2222 Yep no way that was a 2 rotor exhaust note. 12A based 3 rotor more likely. It still sounded NA.
@bigolbootycheeks91386 жыл бұрын
2 different cars. Ones a 12a turbo, the other is an n/a 3 rotor.
@gasouillon715 жыл бұрын
@@Flyingdutchy33 The "Piston camp" doesn't need any excuses, the poor reliability and low thermal effeciency of the rotary engine talk for themselves
@zizwop6 жыл бұрын
The rotary engine really is tiny, but it sounds like a swarm of angry bees, I love it.
@hesgotamotor82883 жыл бұрын
Rubbish, grow up
@Str8outtahdub2 жыл бұрын
Killer bees
@SuperSenis2 жыл бұрын
hahaha that is so true
@FilbertFerdinand5 жыл бұрын
thats why you dont swap your rotary with an ls kids
@shaadydog14 жыл бұрын
Fuq off asshole, swap the rotary to the over weight under tired Stock Car and see what happens....
@MrSkeleton1314 жыл бұрын
@@shaadydog1 wtf are you talking about
@thudtheace3 жыл бұрын
How about remove the turbo from the rotary so both motors are NA... See what happens...
@billsskiefc3 жыл бұрын
@@thudtheace how about remove some cylinders so it has the same displacement
@GECKOZFTW3 жыл бұрын
@@thudtheace How about you just accept that the RX-7 won the race lol
@wholetur49478 жыл бұрын
need more in car footage of the rx7
@rotarycollection7 жыл бұрын
whole tur I know
@dinomaxi49517 жыл бұрын
What most people fail to understand is in IMSA/SCCA in America the rotary destroyed factory ford and Chevy V8 in all classes .They won GTO championship ,camel lights,and GTU .
@exoticspeedefy79166 жыл бұрын
Dino Maxi And they banned them after that
@terryhsiao17454 жыл бұрын
If you beat them. Ban them lol
@ipo75964 жыл бұрын
GTO for 10 years straight! or was it GTU?
@hesgotamotor82883 жыл бұрын
Lol. Wow, FORD has more race wins than all manufactures combined, because they enter so many forms of racing. Right???? V8 supercars, WRC, nassca, drag racing, truck racing, jet boat racing, ,le man etc. The ford sierra cosworth is the most successful race car in history, and what does the mazda rx7 win? Some small comps?
@dearderekking3 жыл бұрын
@@hesgotamotor8288 I guess if you want to call IMSA a small comp lol.... only the highest level of sportscar racing
@ipo75965 жыл бұрын
The lack of rx7 onboard footage is profoundly underwhelming and the music what in the hell
@scareyaf4 жыл бұрын
Early 2000's drum and bass lad get amongst it bruv!
@dubbleA1003 жыл бұрын
Yea like did you see the FCs footwork like that's what I wanted to be not the Falcon
@nekomatajs7 жыл бұрын
164 hp advantage and the rotary still gets the win you gotta love it...
@dylanmartin2127 жыл бұрын
nekomatajs it also depends on weight, torque, traction, downforce, aerodynamics, fuel type. but it's a Ford what did you expect
@nekomatajs7 жыл бұрын
ya,totally.Ford and Mazda were actually a partner company from 1974 to 2015.The fc3s rx7 in the footage even shares a similar platform to the ford probe.But these are race cars, a match that close could literally come down to who has a fresher set of tires.
@dreamseller017 жыл бұрын
nekomatajs, no. fc3s shares nothing with the probe
@nekomatajs7 жыл бұрын
ya,dude no lie check it out - tractors.wikia.com/wiki/Ford_Probe
@dreamseller017 жыл бұрын
nekomatajs my bad, they used the headlight mechanisms and dash cluster. The platform and mechanicals are nothing alike otherwise.
@danielkennedy33136 жыл бұрын
False for the Rx7 footage, the outside footage is a 12a turbo the small inside footage of it is a 20bpp different car
@andrewroberts64345 жыл бұрын
Was waiting for someone to notice
@koraxi89584 жыл бұрын
Ahh, and here is another reason why rotary is awesome and banned from professional motorsport xD.
@colinmiddleton63163 жыл бұрын
This was what Bathurst and touring car racing in the ‘70s and early ‘80’s was all about. Commodores v falcon v camaro v RX7 v everything else.
@joaoa13portugal7 жыл бұрын
This is more like V8 SUPERCAR (IN BIG CAPITAL LETTERS) VS rotary (in tiny letters). Because honestly, the rx7 was completely left to the side on the footage. Also, music in these types of videos is just useless. Its like going to a concert and the guy next to you grabs a megaphone and shouts at your ears through the whole event.
@Bexxiii095 жыл бұрын
This is a NZ car series made in 2000 to 05 called high-octane ofcs it will have shit music but it was cool back then
@nabat77 жыл бұрын
high octane was gold still have all the dvds
@pillowrexrecto94244 жыл бұрын
I don't think thats a 12a. I always thought it has 3-rotor 18A/20B in it.
@itsverygreen532 Жыл бұрын
450hp is about right for a good two rotor, the 20B will make 650+
@dempsey3 Жыл бұрын
2 tools , one job , truth is , lite car tight track advantage, powerful bigger track advantage Choose the right tool for the job you have Both are great tools
@13anomalous166 жыл бұрын
"Track not v8 friendly" what the fuck kind of bullshit is that?
@jimmyjames26396 жыл бұрын
This has nothing to do with it being rotary vs v8. It all comes down to the rx7 being 400-500 odd kg lighter, better aerodynamics, lower centre of gravity. This really has nothing to do with the rotary vs v8. You could put a 650 hp rotary in the falcon and a 450hp v8 in the rx7 and the result would be the same
@CAL1MBO6 жыл бұрын
Jimmy James Well said
@sparrowinarmor6 жыл бұрын
no, the torque&hp curves would be very different
@jimmyjames26396 жыл бұрын
they would have no effect on the result. In any case the v8 has much better responsiveness and more torque than any rotary. Rotaries rely in turbo for their torque and power, a pushrod v8 has raw grunt. The fact is that the weight and aerodynamics favour the body of the rx7. You could put the exact same engines in both vehicles and the smaller and lighter rx7 would still come out on top. This is apples and oranges
@CAL1MBO6 жыл бұрын
muh rotary
@sparrowinarmor6 жыл бұрын
wrong. heavier falcon requires engine with more tq, but you suggest putting in a rotary inside and pump it up for a 650 hp output - imagine how much turbo threshold&lag it would have to go through for that much power, and vice versa- put a high torque v8 in a lighter car - it would be a fricking jet.
@renzosigismondi1556 Жыл бұрын
La mayor potencia posible en el menor peso posible
@luzhan63012 жыл бұрын
V8 SUPERcar 😂😂, kick the GTRs outta the game cause the GTRs keeps winning back in days, mind as well modify the SUVs Holden and Ford makes and race those, as long as it has a v8 in, disregard it suits for cornering or not as long as faster on the straight lines.
@Barkevshadian5 жыл бұрын
The onboard footage of the rotary sounds like its got a 20b not a 12a.
@jadesmith68232 жыл бұрын
When you ask both your dear beautiful Nanna's to drive and your gay second cousin commentated 🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦
@patpeterson26712 жыл бұрын
So they pick the most twisty track around ........ do this at Mount Panorama, Bathurst ..... and the V-8 Supercar is in it's element ....
@febriyogapratama7462 Жыл бұрын
Whatever people talk about the inferior things of the engine , but the power is make any SC v8 big block tired.
@pinny4922 жыл бұрын
Stupid race, 2 totally different categeory race cars.One mid engine sports sedan with aggressive aero and wide tyres, the other a front engine touring car with less tyre and less aero. Not to mention firbreglass widebody kit vs standard steel car body......
@shaadydog14 жыл бұрын
Wieghts? Why is the Mazda on a fatter tire? What class of racing does the "Rotary" fit into if any? Ricer fanbois are so stupid...
@martywarner17796 жыл бұрын
Precision over Power...
@brendonbell87204 жыл бұрын
Lol that is still the 12A if that was a 13b periphalport ,kiss that V8's ass goodbye lol
@danielclark51702 жыл бұрын
Power to weight and weight distribution, which the Mazda rotary has the advantage.
@jayceloris6 жыл бұрын
Light is right
@andrewroberts64346 жыл бұрын
Hahaha, the in car shots were actually from Ivan Mikacs 20BPP sports sedan. Terrible execution!!! 😂😂
@hectorfuji2 жыл бұрын
12A turbo, riiiiiight… that’s a freaking 20B!!!
@glenno13312 жыл бұрын
There is a reason why they banned the fast cars from V8 Super cars
@rapidfiremuzik_official3 жыл бұрын
2020 and Ketzal Sterlings voice is still annoying AF
@imtheonetosayit36574 жыл бұрын
Ones quicker around corners whilst the other is quicker on a straight.. make racing far more interesting.
@ossamillo14442 жыл бұрын
V8 is heavy the rotary its more o less the same power of the V8
@ColtSSR6 жыл бұрын
Predictable.
@renzosigismondi1556 Жыл бұрын
Rx7 the replacement for displacement !
@bengibson39554 жыл бұрын
Go Kitz! I loved the Hi Octane vids back in the day.
@Justin-Outdoors5 жыл бұрын
Switch drivers
@switchynz25976 жыл бұрын
Maztech Is an NZ Company. That 12A is the real deal...built by the racer at his shop :) :) :)
@bhagvedsingh21474 жыл бұрын
Anf its only a 12a! Not even a 13b. Thats one well sorted racecar
@pablorodriguez86635 жыл бұрын
Dorito power
@1HiddenSecret2 жыл бұрын
Lighter chasis better power ratio means later braking and sooner and faster acceleration....
@nogoodcops65574 жыл бұрын
A Ford Taurus is anything but a supercar.
@owainowai10 ай бұрын
RIP Berry 🙏
@renzosigismondi155610 ай бұрын
1.3 VS 5.0
@crrc453 жыл бұрын
Rotary all the way, I would have bet on the Rotary winning.
@driffbro33806 жыл бұрын
Rotary's great but that v8.. sounded amazing.. gotta admit
@soquidsnake346 жыл бұрын
Rotary sounded better. Screaming the whole way lmao
@bigolbootycheeks91386 жыл бұрын
That 3 rotor sounded better BY FAR! Like, not even in the same class. Not much can touch the sound of an all motor 3 rotor.
@NeoCloud7 жыл бұрын
What is teh song doe?
@jonathonvial97265 жыл бұрын
Power to weight might have a bit to do with it.
@shaadydog14 жыл бұрын
Tire size as well?
@jeanninesandmayer29263 жыл бұрын
Better driver in this tale! Not a rotary over V8 story.
@alloutofdonuts39984 жыл бұрын
Is there a class that these cars(& more car type diversity) would be racing eachother at the same time/track?
@gregmcnamara25634 жыл бұрын
Alloutofdonuts Sports sedan racing. It’s as close to no rules racing as you can get. Capacity/weight limits, but engines inside cockpits, transaxle sand tube frames with fibreglass bodies.
@NeoCloud4 жыл бұрын
Anyone know what the music is?
@antwainmcgee22684 жыл бұрын
I love that early electronica music. Good stuff. Very hip back then.
@antwainmcgee22684 жыл бұрын
That rotary also sounded very nice.
@ipo75964 жыл бұрын
Not v8 friendly? Whack hahaha
@gv60954 жыл бұрын
I only came here for the rotary only
@davenelson15715 жыл бұрын
Wow you must have graduated from the Darryl Eastlake school of commentary. Your excellent at saying nothing very loudly
@almc-wi5vo5 жыл бұрын
Dude, that was a no brainier.
@RBFR015 жыл бұрын
it's a ford so it's by default slow
@Vendetta_6693 жыл бұрын
ROTARY POWER🔥
@sa22see4 жыл бұрын
DORITOS 4EVER!!🙌
@Saugusari116 жыл бұрын
well it is a small track, V8 cant properly stretch its legs :D
@sparrowinarmor6 жыл бұрын
how large should it be so it could? oval? drag strip?
@mewffhin6 жыл бұрын
SchoolShooterPro2050 lol this is savage 🤣🤣
@pizza_demon27606 жыл бұрын
V8 shouldn't have to stretch anything out. It's heavy and requires lugging around an extra 100kg just in iron. The FC3s he raced is better balanced and he can carry as much power through corners as he wants because of the low torque ratio. V8 has even been beaten in top fuel around the world by rotary's and 2Js so I don't think it has the legs to stretch anyway.
@NLRevZ7 жыл бұрын
Wait, this very RX7 used to have an NA 20B, what happened? (Onboard footage in this video still shows a 20B NA sound, but the outside footage clearly sounds like a 2-rotor... wtf?)
@ipo75965 жыл бұрын
12A engine. 2 rotor only
@pillowrexrecto94244 жыл бұрын
I thought the same thing. I came across an old video of that same car and it runs a 3 rotor
@eddiewao29595 жыл бұрын
More like a 3-rotor to me. Probably a 18A (three 12A rotors) or 20B engine
@nuttysnpdg7 жыл бұрын
messy driving from the falcon
@sparrowinarmor6 жыл бұрын
so you are saying you would be a better driver?
@ColtSSR6 жыл бұрын
SchoolShooterPro2050 I dont think he said that, he said the ford driver was crap.
@soquidsnake346 жыл бұрын
The RX driver missed gears and was messing up too, but he still gapped him on straightaways
@eliudonofre67633 жыл бұрын
Vtec was born to be inmortal nothing can beat high revving
@tomdecat40093 жыл бұрын
but rotary ain't vtec😂😂
@swilleh_ Жыл бұрын
Vtec was born to be slow 😂
@dc61915 жыл бұрын
this is why v8s are better than rotary
@EnzedDev5 жыл бұрын
v8 got fucked up lmaoooo
@dc61915 жыл бұрын
@@EnzedDev yes it did but we all knew that was going to happen. What this video shows is that v8s are clearly much more fun