Valerion VisionMaster Pro 2 & Plus 2 Side By Side

[@saipien]

Can you do this but with ambient lighting or a room with outside lighting combing in. Please and thank you.

[@brucesmith1754]

Nikos, thanks for this comparison. I'm choosing between the basic Plus model and the Plus 2. I have a 100 inch screen. You noted that the Pro 2 models are best for screens over 120 inches. I'm mostly concerned about having enough brightness for 3D mode. I have a medium sized room( 12x16x8(H) ) with 2 windows with shades. I'm on a budget for the Plus model so I'm hoping 1500 lumens will be enough for good 3D performance. Thanks for the fantastic demonstrations on these Valorion Videos!

[@projectorjunkies4152]

The plus model with the 1500 ansi lumens brightness will be enough for 100' screen, even for 3D

[@000jammy]

do you see more details in the images of the pro2 due to the increased contrast? just looking at the feathers of the parrot shot. I'd like to know what you see in person vs what we can see through the camera and youtube

[@projectorjunkies4152]

nope, the shadow details are equal at both models.

[@javiercontreras9048]

Hi there, very nice comparison, I do own a Dangbei Atom which is bright I want to know if the extra Lumens of the plus 2 would be something you would actually notice compared to the Atom or I would need to get the pro 2 instead to see some real difference? I use the Atom as a daily tv rather than a dedicated projector, my room is not too bright yet not completely dark, I use a gray anti reflective screen and I can see the image even with some daylight Thanks in advance

[@projectorjunkies4152]

Plus 2 is bright. Compared to Atom you are going to notice this difference for sure. Pro 2 is a light cannon, if you play on a screen smaller than 120', you should go for plus 2.

[@javiercontreras9048]

@ I’d like to go 130 would you still recommend going with the pro ? As I’m not planning to go any bigger than that, thanks

[@Tilten]

It’s rumored that an sw upgrade will enable EBL at different laser levels, that should give the Pro 2 the possibility of having same black level as the Plus 2.

[@projectorjunkies4152]

Yes, this firmware is coming.

[@OsirisPL]

Thanks for the comparison :) Both look really good. To me it looks like the plus2 has lower dark level and less max bright level, so contrast could actually be similar between the two models. Is that something that you also could see when comapring them live, side-by-side?

[@000jammy]

thanks for this... I have a small room with white painted walls to project a 110 inch image on without a screen. Max viewing distance is 8'6 feet.....Was thinking the Pro2 so I can use its optical zoom and not have to stick the projector to the side and rely on the keystone correction. Will the max be too bright for my setup?

[@projectorjunkies4152]

yes it will be, but max has an iris so you should be able to control the brightness accordingly to your space.

[@000jammy]

@@projectorjunkies4152 thanks for the reply. Sorry said Max when I meant the pro2 ..not thinking of waiting unitl after May so its the Pro 2 with optical zoom at 8 ft away or from the side of the couch at 11 feet with optical zoom and some extra keystone. Or drop down to the plus models and have the keystone and digital zoom. was also curious if you have been able to change the luminance without sacrificing quality?

[@000jammy]

also did you find the native contrast in the 2 models to be noticeable when watching? I feel i can see more detail i the parrot feathers on the pro2 but that is just me watching on a laptop. Currently reading your full reviews..fantastic work

[@bruno3833]

Noob question. Does this projectors or other laser projectors have brightness control? Maybe its dark in the room and I dont need all 2000 lumens?

[@projectorjunkies4152]

yes, it has laser power adjustment, 0 to 10.

[@CuentaYoutube-rs1un]

Is it easy to install the plus 2 without having a motorized lens?

[@projectorjunkies4152]

not so easy...

[@samar19925]

wow waiting for this video

[@AmiKxDub]

What are you really thinking about the plus 2 ? Is it a good choice ? 😇

[@projectorjunkies4152]

best, not just a good one😉

[@AmiKxDub]

Thanks first, i don't buy a screen yet, what can i do like choice for the plus 2 ? 😇

[@samirka1292]

Is it true the fan noise is different between the 2 models. I heard the plus 2 is noisier than the pro 2 ? Is that true. Please can you confirm that ?

[@projectorjunkies4152]

Yes, it’s true that the Plus is slightly noisier than the Pro.

[@evgeniosfearless8374]

Νικο καλησπερα επελεξα τελικα τον pro2 ,σε τι αποσταση πρεπει να τοποθετηθει ο προβολεας, για 100 ιντσες οθονη? Καθως εχω περιορισμο και δεν μπορει να ειναι λιγοτερο απο 4.5 μετρα η τοποθετηση του θα μπορω να τον ρυθμισω με το ψηφιακο ζουμ?

[@brandondavis6801]

Do you have any comparison where sports or live action content is displayed? Beautiful side by side comparison. Thank you in advance

[@TheFirstRealChewy]

Looks great. The Pro 2 is definitely brighter. Also, I'm going to assume that you have to see the picture in person to truly appreciate the difference. The camera will adjust the highlights and shadows based on the dynamic range of the sensor.

[@luigipetrone1271]

brighter but with higher blacks. The plus 2 is much better with EBL off.

[@projectorjunkies4152]

Yes, that’s true! The camera’s dynamic range misses a few stops compared to our eyes, so there’s always a difference between watching a video and experiencing the real image of these projectors in person. Plus, don’t forget about KZbin’s compression, which also affects the quality!

[@jdx4174]

I use a 135" screen and have a focus on 3D movies. So the Pro 2 is the much more useful option for me. But i already backed the Max model, hoping that they fix the 3D issues until may, which I am aware of. But it's going to be a long time until May.

[@hdwblade]

Do you think the regular Plus model will be bright enough for a basement without windows? I've neverr owned a projector but my brother in law has a $6k Sony that they compare the Pro 2 model to. He said 1500 Lumens will be too dim. What are your thoughts? Should i shell out the extra $300 for the Plus 2 vs the Plus?

[@projectorjunkies4152]

For a basement the Plus 2 is absolutely perfect choice.

[@ivancarrasquillo3028]

How big can you project?

[@projectorjunkies4152]

up to 300 inch

[@Justx0]

I'm afraid that the pro2 is too bright to be able to project on the ceiling in my room... Any opinions please? Thank you

[@projectorjunkies4152]

you can always lower the laser power!

[@t-rex1480]

Do you find the black levels to be better on the plus2 or is it just the video making it appear that way? I know typically the brighter projector will have a higher black floor, but I've been curious if they were able to achive the same black floor with ebl implementation?

[@projectorjunkies4152]

You're right-the dark scene performance is slightly better on the Plus 2. Also the black level is slightly better on Plus 2.

[@Marinho-oo3cv]

Do you guys think the Nexigo Aurora Pro 2 that was announced yesterday can compete or do better than the Valerion?

[@projectorjunkies4152]

A completely different category, also keep in mind that Nexigo utilizes the Appotronics APLD laser engine, which comes with significant heat generation and a power consumption of 400W (compare to 100W and no heat production of Valerion).

[@andriesdeschrijverphotography]

I'm really struggling. I don't want an ugly TV so i'm looking for a quality projector. But the projection area on my wall is rather small (diagonally about 170 cm) and the ideal projection distance is rather far away (ideally about 350 cm away). I backed the Pro 2 mainly because of the optical zoom function allowing for more flexibility in positioning the projector but I think it might be too bright for the rather small room I'm projecting in. Would it be better to go for the plus 2 and choose a different (read: closter ) projection distance?

[@projectorjunkies4152]

Yes, the Plus 2 seems like the right choice for you (and for my space as well). That said, you can always lower the laser power on the Pro 2, and hopefully, a firmware update enabling EBL at lower laser power will be available soon.

[@dylankarim2083]

​@@projectorjunkies4152 Thanks for your incredible review. Which one of them to you find more future proof please ? Also at which rate do you feel projection on a screen better than on a white wall as you have tested both ? Thanks for your attention !

[@harrypotter-mm1jz]

From your opinion what type of screen is better for the upcoming Max model? White/Gray ,alr or clr? I understand that models having brightness it will be too much to use Arl/clr matte gray in a controlled light room for extra contrast and deep blacks? Considering that iris and ebl Thanks

[@projectorjunkies4152]

fresnel is the best option, Vividstorm Fusion is another, a simple gray screen with negative gain (not ALR) or a simple gain 1 white screen.

[@harrypotter-mm1jz]

@projectorjunkies4152 thank you Ευχαριστώ φίλε μου

[@micheled6819]

@@projectorjunkies4152which frensel model For 120 inch?

[@rickykim85]

Pro2 pictures look too much blown away. To pair comparison you must go to HDR or DV contents.

[@samar19925]

after watching this going to back Plus2

[@brucesmith1754]

I have to agree. The brightness on the Pro 2 might be washing out the color details. I feel better about the Plus 2. I may even go down to the Plus model since I have a relatively small room

[@projectorjunkies4152]

The Plus 2 is an excellent choice, but the Pro 2 is an absolute light cannon!

[@brucesmith1754]

@@projectorjunkies4152 My budget is holding me down to entry level Plus model. I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

[@shawnblackmur7887]

I think I'm doing the same... I started with the Plus 2 then upgraded to the Pro 2 but I don't see a $600 improvement in this side by side so I'm going back to the Plus 2. I though I would need the extra light output but maybe not? I plan to install a 150" screen in a dedicated light controlled home theater room & it looks like the Plus 2 will be fine. Thoughts?

[@kavinarasu3352]

Whats your opinion on NexiGo TriVision Ultra 4K Tri-LED-Laser vs Valerion Plus 2 model ? which is best in that price budget ?

[@projectorjunkies4152]

I haven’t tested the Nexigo yet, but I like this company and I trust them. That said, regardless of which performs better overall, Valerion’s EBL technology is the true game-changer here. Unless Nexigo develops its own laser dimming solution, I don’t think it can truly compete with any Valerion model.

[@shawnblackmur7887]

What size screens are these on? Thank you

[@projectorjunkies4152]

100"

[@MAdrones]

Is there a brightness setting that can be adjusted down on the vision master pro 2 to almost the same level as the plus 2 while it is running on full laser power due to EBL(as you mentioned earlier). I intend to use on a 150inch screen. Can i also ask what sort of brightness gains are on the screens you are currently using please? which I assume are fresnel?

[@projectorjunkies4152]

There is a laser power setting that allows brightness to be reduced to 1300 lumens, but currently, the EBL feature requires full power to function. My screen is the Celexon Dynamic Slate ALR with a 0.6 gain, and a Fresnel screen is on the way.

[@kensingtonwick]

@@projectorjunkies4152With that said, when implemented, could the Pro 2 match the Plus 2 on contrast and black levels? Hoping you will respond today because I am second-guessing my pledge on the Pro 2 now that you have stated that The Plus 2 has better contrast and black levels.

[@000jammy]

can you achieve similar by lowering the luminance of the pro2 or does that degrade the image quality?

[@projectorjunkies4152]

The EBL works only in full laser power!

[@in4kdaysaroundtheworld380]

​@@projectorjunkies4152 Well hopefully just for now. Lets hope it comes soon with the update.

[@000jammy]

@@projectorjunkies4152 ahh another twist.. I think i can get away with a side projection like in your reviews which would be about 10 feet max onto a white wall. The optical zoom of the pro 2 means I could go to maybe 130inches. would you say that would still be too bright and to go with the plus 2 and digital correction?

[@mkhaudio]

for a dedicated HT black out room which one do you suggest . I have currently Wemax A300 UST and 120 gray ALR floor rising screen . thinking to upgrade

[@projectorjunkies4152]

If you love 3D as much as I do, the Pro 2 is the way to go-its extra brightness really makes a difference! Otherwise, the Plus 2 is the best value for money in my opinion for your screen.

[@mkhaudio]

@@projectorjunkies4152 I have two questions here: First, isn’t it a bit suspicious that this projector claims to compete with high-end models at a fraction of the price, yet there are no negative reviews so far? It seems quite unusual. Second, I’ve noticed many people opting for the Max model, even though there are no samples available yet, and they’re willing to wait over eight months for it. This is another strange reaction from customers. While it looks impressive on paper, I’m curious-how do you justify taking such a risk? After all, $2,000 USD is still a significant amount in any currency.

[@cheffanxx]

I know very little about laser projectors but i would like to play video games on a huge screen. Would there be latency issues? (For the plus or plus 2)

[@projectorjunkies4152]

I am a gamer too!The Plus 2 and the Pro 2 have input lag time of 4ms at 1080p and 17ms at 4K.

[@cheffanxx]

​@@projectorjunkies4152That sounds more than acceptable

[@TRHardware]

EBL enabled here on both?

[@tumbacoco45]

MOVIE NAME>?

[@vpst00]

Looks like X-Men: First Class (2011) features Magneto's backstory, including his time in a death camp during the Holocaust:

[@t-rex1480]

One of the x-men movies

[@jchu217]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/gonFZHiBjNh8pLM

[@TRX25EX]

Pro 2 brighter, Plus 2 have deeper blacks slightly

[@projectorjunkies4152]

You right

[@janmaycuts]

Everyone is talking about plus2 and pro2 . no one caring for other models ,,, plus and just pro. what about Pro .. will it be brighter thn plus2 and less bright thn pro2. thn i guess the pro model is best of both worlds.