Valhalla - Does Kratos Deserve Redemption? (God of War: Ragnarok)

[@SagesRain]

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[@SpammytheHedgehog]

Redemption is something difficult to achieve.

[@surraka9153]

Is there going to be a video on Sasuke?

[@superbrian7997]

Umm… I’m pretty sure that we’re commanded to, “Repent for the end draws nigh.” Repentance & Redemption are one and the same thing. Grace is what we’re given. That which we don’t deserve. Redemption is what we do. Not what we earn. God only gives us the Grace that we need to master our own redemption.

[@amanmagar4184]

Rick sanchaz plz

[@ralphcaluag2403]

​@@superbrian7997Yes... But how can one repent like Kratos did? Kratos drowning with guilt, anger, turmoil especially against himself. God offered that our sins be forgiven through Yeshua's (Jesus's) death on the cross... It is us that kept reminding ourselves that we are unworthy of that love that kept us away from that. A ploy of the Enemy/Accuser to keep blamimg us/ourselves. Kratos was the same, he wanted an Accuser to tell him that he's not worthy of forgiveness, of leadership, of love, of redemption. But God is ever so patient, enduring and understanding... All that was left is for ourselves to forgive. It's good that we forgive others just as God did, but we ought to forgive ourselves too and accept help, accept the gift of salvation, to see that we might be broken as sinners but still precious to Heaven's eyes. Moses was murderer but Jethro made him see a different perspective that made him ready to be presented to the burning shrub. Jacob was a deceiver that it took wrestling an angel for him to forgive himself and be brave to face his brother. Mary of Magdalene (either Bible version or from The Chose) felt like she threw away salvation by stumbling, yet Christ didn't judge her... He was rather patient, calm and comforting her. Redemption and salvation is a free gift of God... But only when we accept it and move forward from our pasts... To stop seeing the monster and see only the man. To be of service on others, of the common good. Don't take my word for it. I'm but a sinner, a monster in a journey to become man once again. It's difficult to forgive myself (repent) yet easy to forgive others, why is that? Shalom Aleichem (Peace be on you)

[@eikrzatarra7867]

The whole point about redemption is that someone can never fully achieve It, but that doesn't mean that one should stop looking for it.

[@Frotu]

Great take. A really good take. As long as you are on your way to redemption and work towards a better self and a better future, the old you dies and ceases to exist. But if you stop working, the moment you stop trying to be better, the moment you give up your journey... It will be as if the old you never went away in the first place. Just like Thorfinn from Vinland Saga, he cannot stop being better than he was before. Because no matter how hard he tries, he will never undestroy what he destroyed. But that's where the beauty and divine nature of redemption come into place. Redemption is ETERNAL.

[@eikrzatarra7867]

@@Frotu I was talking to my mother about how the idea of redemption can actually be a fantasy, because the misdeeds and acts that were performed won't cease to exist and their ghosts will hunt a person forever. But just by the sole fact that one is willing to look for It can make It real, even if it comes with a great burden and responsability. That's at least my personal take on this matter.

[@tropichawk850]

But wait... if you can never make it back to a moral neutral, and we can never be as moral as we would be if we simply didn't exist, then what right do any of us have to exist and put that irreparable negative morality out into the world?

[@eikrzatarra7867]

@@tropichawk850 that's actually a good and fair question.

[@godzillazfriction]

​@@eikrzatarra7867here's a stemming point about 'redemption' as a concept... 'change' is an abstract or a paradoxical concept by nature. it alludes to the 'idea of change' and how that gets determined but in actuality, that gets contradicted because of nature not being able to determine actual 'change' - so with that notion within the Human Genome into bringing 'corruption' in regards to Higher Power alluding to change because of the 'Higher Power' - then you can't determine the 'change' because of Humans setting a higher power in general such as taking over lands, creating profit for the sake of profit etc. now it's where 'Redemption' comes along, and is a form of 'change' - since you can't determine the idea of change within someone or anything by nature considering how it's contradictory by not being able to fight 'nature' within yourself as a human being...

[@SpammytheHedgehog]

Hermes once told Kratos that he would betray only himself in the end. Before losing his legs to Kratos.

[@fire-typhoon123]

His younger self did betray his older self unknowingly.. he hated that he was a monster and wishes that he could undo some of the things he did

[@PriestLargo.]

Regardless if Kratos deserves it or not. He earned it in Valhalla.

[@CyberSonic-V3.0]

Maybe not deserved. As Helios said thinking of the deaths Kratos caused is like thinking of counting all the grains of sand on a beach. But as Tyr makes Kratos see the more complicated truths of his story in Greece and understanding himself more while not excusing he comes to the real truth: He was a god of pain and destruction who destroyed his life but he can mark a new story. Where once he took Ares throne and inflicted many horrors as a God of War he can take that title again and be a new God of War. He does not know the future of his decision but he has hope that he will not revert back to the madman he was.

[@jeanlucretia8072]

I feel like GoW has become one of the few story based games that truly understands their character. This makes sense. This is the universe where Kratos became better. Not because of some butterfly effect. But because the war that kept going on within himself had this outcome

[@NoodleKeeper]

Kratos walking thjrough the door that final time, with the axe resting on his shoulder, looks so much more self-assured and confident than at any other point in the entire series. I really love what they did with my boy. I grew up experiencing the story of a monster and now, as an adult, I got to experience the story of that monster becoming something so much greater. I fucking love Santa Monica Studios.

[@TheHollowTiger]

Redemption isn’t deserved, it is earned inch by inch through effort and the betterment of one’s self. Nobody DESERVES redemption, but everybody has the choice to pursue it.

[@elpopman2055]

That is Why Jesus is the only truth..

[@chaosshadow6785]

​@elpopman2055 jesus offers that instant redemption that leads a person into a condescending and narrow-minded path.

[@eduardor-o4884]

Yes, he deserved his redemption because he went through the process of taking responsibility for himself and his actions through self reflection and worked very hard to change his ways and to ensure his son would not go down the dark path he did and teaches him to be kind, merciful and wise and not to follow the path of vengeance and instead fight for justice, friends and family and to always, always........ be better.

[@tennicksalvarez9079]

Redemption nuhto over simplify so many die because of him there is nothing that can ever fix that

[@thedarkknight727]

“Why do we fall. So we can peak ourselves back up.” -Alfred Pennyworth

[@mandalorianhunter1]

Honestly I grew up with Kratos despite not playing most of the games. To me he tries to be better but at the same time regresses a lot like his relationship with Sindri where he acts like a jerk in almost all of their interactions. Kratos was raised to be a warrior and a pawn, but the constant betrayals drove him more to anger and hatred. Honestly it's a story about the cycle of abuse and trying to fight it only for you to gain some of the same attributes as your abuser.

[@zacharybosley1935]

Kratos's most defining line to me will always be "We must be better."

[@mandalorianhunter1]

@@zacharybosley1935 same to me but he ends up being a hypocrite when he doesn't follow up with it.

[@ghostface4404]

@@mandalorianhunter1 it's easier to teach than it is to do.

[@mandalorianhunter1]

@@ghostface4404 yeah I know it's sad

[@ghostface4404]

@@mandalorianhunter1 unfortunately, that often renders it ineffective.

[@OhNoTheFace]

I even think "You were always more then what others thought" also applies to some of his past self. Yes, he was crazy, and ruled by rage and hate. But I played through the old games recently. He is still crazy, but he tells a surprising amount of people to leave him alone or run now while they can. There are a lot of people egging him on or force him to do things. And also what Tyr pointed out, he had more depth then he thought. My thoughts on it anyways

[@NoodleKeeper]

This is a good point. It's been a while since I played the OG trilogy, but I do remember him not always being a straight up dick to everyone. He respected Gaia up to the point she betrayed him, and then she immediately took first place on the "Beings to be killed by me" list for Kratos.

[@williamrossman2136]

He did say /always/. He may have been ruled by those negative emotions, but they don’t represent the totality of who he is, or was, at any point. That’s the point he’s making by delivering that line, not only to extend compassion to his younger self, but to ask us as the viewers to as well.

[@NoodleKeeper]

@williamrossman2136 That's legit, cause if anyone had asked me before Dad of War if Kraots was the "good guy" or would ever have a redemption arc, I'm pretty confident I would've said no. Hell, one of his creators was butt hurt they decided to give him one. He's pretty lame, if you ask me.

[@IAmAtAldicacodemon]

He may not deserve redemption for everything that he has done, but he does deserve atleast some kind of peace. For the thousands of years that he had suffered for and that he is now a god of a new age, inspiring people to be better within the nine realms as the new God of Hope.

[@youngmasterzhi]

He doesn’t deserve redemption… He EARNED it!

[@Shadowhunterbg]

He earned jack shit.

[@marcusblack6835]

Not really but the fact that he acknowledged that and is still trying is honorable.

[@CoolSaver]

​@@marcusblack6835what does it even mean, "be redeemed"? Who decides if you are redeemed or not? I think this choice goes personally to the people you wronged, and after seeing your path, your good deeds, your "chasing of redemption you know you will never deserve", some of them may say that you are redeemed yourself. The other will say you will never be redeemed though. So... the term "deserve redemption" is highly subjective then? There's no point in chasing it, except if it helps you to stay on the right path. The next step in your growth then would be: "i don't care if i deserve a redemption, i need no redemption, what's done is done, there's only what will you do now, and i choose to do things right just because they need to be right".

[@marcusblack6835]

And sorry for the bad engrish hope at least you see what i mean.

[@CoolSaver]

@@marcusblack6835 i think your previous comment was deleted, but i read it. It's not exactly answering my questions, but i see that you agree, that redemption should come from the people you harmed. But, I don't know, this is such a vague theme, i think people still looking for redemption in their mind mostly. Even if a person says "you redeemed yourself, forget about it", you will still feel guilty, if you haven't found redemption within yourself. Ahh, too vague.

[@white0thunderwhite0thunder71]

Kratos in this description reminds me of the antagonist of Firestarter 2. He was a man of the truest evil who believed that the means always justified the ends yet when he finally confronts the woman he had sought out for decades he showed that he viewed her as a god. And when she questioned if he was looking for a god to forgive him he answered, "NO. I want a god to DAMN me properly." As if he was a monster seeking justice in an unjust world, trying to find at least a singular example of evil being brought low to renew his faith in the good in humanity and that sometimes, just sometimes, that good can truly triumph over evil.

[@dudeguyrockfan]

The whole story of kratos is fantastic from a young man being fueled off revenge to a father coming to terms with himself his past and actions from a lifetime ago to now. A great story of positive masculinity.

[@joebeast15]

It is nice to see a story in this day and age that portrays a man and the themes of fatherhood in a positive light

[@thedarkknight727]

The Boy: What’s the bravest thing you’ve ever said. The Horse: Help. Asking for help isn’t giving up, is refusing to give up. The Boy, the Mole, the Fox, and the Horse.

[@JohnSmith-dz2dc]

Kratos’ voice actor is Christopher Judge who plays Teal’c on Stargate SG1. Basically he was the #1 henchman for the evil aliens before switching sides. A war criminal fighting against his former masters. In the second movie, he talks with a dude with a similar backstory and tells him that he will never forgive himself and that he should accept it. Instead, put yourself service towards others not for redemption but penance. Just realized Judge acts out a similar role here For those who want to see that convo, look up “Teal’c schools a brother”

[@Incinerabbit]

hello recently I myself realised a horrible mistake I'd made, and for a while I've been trying to grapple with whether I even deserve a second chance I've loved God of War for a long time now, but this video helped me to realise how much Kratos as a character speaks to me... not that I've killed anyone... yet! I guess what I want to say is thank you for making a video that spoke to me immensely and helped me with my feelings of guilt, and needing to be kind to myself and acknowledge that I HAVE changed thank you for giving me another reason to love this character and series so much good day to you sir and keep cooking ♥

[@autumnsteel307]

ayoooooo someone else who relates to Kratos because of having fucked up irl! That makes the two of us

[@Incinerabbit]

@@autumnsteel307

[@JAYDOG1337A]

My favourite bit is when he sits on the throne and you can almost see a weight lifted from him, like he's reconnecting with his domain after so long, he IS the God Of War, that throne has always been where he belongs.

[@ShadowKamehameha32]

Only now, he is the God of War that he should have been from the beginning. His journey through The Nine Realms and Valhalla molded him into the God of War that people would revere, not fear.

[@kolboi7097]

What I liked about Valhalla was that it didn't try to draw a line between young and old Kratos. Like in his speech, he was always more than what other people saw. That capacity for good wasn't something only Old Kratos had. And, while he was manipulated by many into doing terrible things, young Kratos still refused to do good when he knew he could have done differently. It doesn't try to absolve young Kratos nor separate him as a different character because it was the loss that he experienced while he was young that led him become the hopeful man Kratos is now

[@NoodleKeeper]

Exactly. His past is just as important as his present with regards to his growth and eventual redemption. He needs to remember what he did, and not run from it, so he can learn from it, and ensure he doesn't fall back into it.

[@Mcmuffinwaffle]

Everyone can deserve redemption, not everyone deserves forgiveness.

[@ComposedSage75]

Imo, Kratos needs to be at peace. He’s been betrayed many times by people he thought he could trust and consistently in conflicts with people and their deities. Doesn’t change his past but it does show how he’s been trying to make up for it.

[@NoodleKeeper]

Not only that, but he can speak from experience when he cautions others about revenge and anger. It isn't him being a hypocrite, it's him providing wisdom earned through direct experience. The end of GOW3 shows him coming to terms with the fact that revenge killing got him nothing. It didn't fix any of his problems, and arguably only piled on problems.

[@SpammytheHedgehog]

Even Thor from Norse Mythology told Kratos that he could not redeem himself by running away.

[@xzenitramx666]

Probably speaking from experience

[@xylynthian753]

Thanks for the clarification. Could've gotten that confused with Thor from Japanese mythology.

[@TaintedDoggo420]

​@@xylynthian753Thor From Japanese Mythology Is My Favorite Thor :]

[@MegaDuke4life]

And the creator God of War still finds all this unnecessary for his character 😅

[@xzenitramx666]

@@MegaDuke4life the guy wanted to turn kratos into baltazar from the Christianity mythos, he has no candle in this burial.

[@christopherzirkel1792]

Kratos certainly deserves redemption. He learned from his journey in Greece to forgive himself, to let go of his past. Tyr saw Kratos wasn’t truly a bad person, but a person who was hurt by the betrayals of the Greek gods he once served.

[@Shadowhunterbg]

He forgave himself. That would absolutely make all those innocent people he killed rest in peace...

[@CoolSaver]

​​@@Shadowhunterbghe already did that in the end of GoW3... and now did it again? It makes me think, he will never truly forgive himself, but the more he reflects on these thoughts, the more at peace he becomes with himself. So this was another iteration of his "becoming at peace" we saw.

[@basicsimp8798]

If someone like Kratos can be redeemed then anyone can, regardless of heinous act they commit

[@livelife4928]

But they must rigorously and continously work towards it

[@bJT42]

I love the direction God of War has gone with Kratos, I’ve been a fan since 2005, and honestly I prefer this Kratos over the old one.

[@artistanthony1007]

People are forgetting he did at end of 3, even in that Nightmare Realm before his act of stabbing himself and releasing the power from the Flame of Olympus and Hope in him for the world to have.

[@drock2coolz820]

But also its great that kratos story has come into a beautiful circle

[@MegaDuke4life]

Its insane David Jaffe sees no value in Kratos development in the Norse arc

[@OGPoetsRain]

It's so good to see another god of war video from you sage

[@ThePhantom355]

I don’t think Kratos’ story is complete. Not fully at least. It’s more like a new chapter as the God of Hope and Justice rather than a God of War and Destruction. The next saga will likely apply this new version of Kratos, maybe have him stop wars instead of waging them, essentially coming full circle and I am here for it. Amazing video as always.

[@alpha5664]

Redemption is not something that is deserved, it is something that is wanted. You have to want to be a better person to get redemption.

[@genildomiranda1690]

It doesn't matter, redemption or not, he's trying to be better, that's the point

[@malytheson]

The young kratos can’t be forgiven, the older kratos can because he is not the same person in so many ways, i know he is him but still he has come a very long way compared to before. Before he would kill anyone even if he didn’t care. Now he only kills when it truly is necessary.

[@Kleed44]

Wow what an amazing video for my favorite character in gaming!! Thank you so much for always making great videos and your hard work!!

[@thewanderingrambler7420]

Redemption? Yes The ashes of his wife and child fading out/going away? NEVER.

[@RandomPerson-u8n]

I would love it if you make Inazuma Eleven videos and Pokémon Mystery Dungeon videos, but that's probably not going to happen.

[@MR.LMR1996]

Like with the path of perfection, a path of redemption is a never-ending journey, not a destination. But in such journeys, they're more than worth pursuing.

[@fire-typhoon123]

Maybe he doesn't deserve redemption but tyr puts it best. Excusing his past actions isn't something he can do, only accepting them and moving on.

[@ValirianDefiance]

Redemption can always be found for those who truly seek it. not with any god but within ones self. it is the will to be a better person tomorrow then yesterday.

[@animekidz928]

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[@GooseGodGeb]

I just noticed Lament of Orpheus playing in the background, nice touch.

[@darienevans6229]

gods often have more then one title. new Kratos would be war, hope, peace and service.

[@Uzair_Of_Babylon465]

Great video keep it up you're doing amazing things 😁😀

[@10RexTheWolf01]

🤔I feel like the biggest issue is not specifically with Kratos, or just him, but the fact that he gets to move on to see things eventually get better while others were just casualties that met a cruel end. The Gods especially Zeus screwed people over but Kratos still gets to see the end. I'm not saying he doesn't deserve redemption, everyone deserves it, but I guess my question is how can one accept it after everything he has done ESPECIALLY when he has been to literal hell and back 2-3 times to see these damn tortured souls forever being trapped int the underground? Kratos is a god while the rest are mortal, how can one root for something they'll never get because they're not special, and they're still doomed in hell?

[@zillagrilla315]

Kratos does deserve redemption but he will never be able to redeem himself. I always imagine Kratos having a - 1,000 negative karma at the end of the GOW3 and by Ragnarok he has -700 to -600 negative Karma. Kratos will always be a monster but he can still change what kind of monster he is.

[@10RexTheWolf01]

@@zillagrilla315 But that's the thing, HE can move on and change but where is the guarantee for the casualties that they can have better days?

[@samfire3067]

Underworld, not hell.

[@thedarkknight727]

Let’s us not forget that after Ragnarok, came the end of the Fimbulvetr Winter, and thus making people come out of hiding to finally settle down in Midgard. Making Kratos have neighbours, who probably look up to him as a friend. 😉

[@davidasilvaoliveira7781]

Thanks to Valhalla I can now safely say that kratos is one of my favorite characters ever

[@Jordan-Roberts2006]

You should do a video about invincible

[@robertzarfas9556]

I agree that no one can deserve redemption because of two simple definitions. Mercy: not getting the bad things you do deserve, a staying of the executioners hand. And Grace: the receiving of a good gift you did not, and could not earn. Both are required for redemption. Redemption can never be earned or deserved, it is, by definition, the very opposite of those ideas. It can only be given.

[@adamsin9260]

Great job making this video. My favorite franchise for a reason

[@Whoswho267]

I have to say you make some awesome videos. The depth you go into with the characters is great to listen to. Plus you have a really great voice that rivals Morgan Freeman and Sam Elliot.

[@tinoduran4557]

Redemption is not about deservance. It is about the process of earning it to yourself and for yourself. The process does not end.

[@Josemourinhooo]

beautiful

[@brianshaw8195]

This was beautiful

[@phoenixflameknight]

Yet another insightful piece. Well done

[@drrtyrotten..8780]

I love your videos just found out about you 2 days ago and been watching so many of your videos

[@Niel_albatrozz]

Well said brother.. well said 👏👏👏

[@sivanlevi3867]

What an amazing story, and a meaningful one.

[@a.jthomas6132]

Kratos has an incredible 19 year journey from being a Ghost of Sparta be given a godlike abilities to seek revenge on the Greek Gods that used him …. to being vigilant on his choices as he sought to better himself for the sake of his son Atreus!

[@obadijahparks]

The playing of HADES' theme wasn't lost on me....

[@1fishmob]

I only just learned this not to long ago, but are you ever going to talk about Charlie the Unicorn and it's allegorical way of portraying depression and different stages it can go?

[@Souphover]

I only say yes because I think everybody deserves a second chance

[@Pyronix18]

Well written video essay, my persobal favorite from you as along time fan. God of war is an exellent example of how a well cradted piece of media can grow and evolve like a living thing. It began as an edgy, modern interprition on the ancient greek tragedy, ment to grab the attention of teens for the playstation. The original creator has gone on record stating that he hates how far in another direction cory balrog took it. In fact its become so much more now, evolving into tale of redemption and the definition of manhood in an evolving landscape of toxic masculinity. And the story is better for it across the board imo.

[@SpammytheHedgehog]

Kratos brought Greece and Olympus to ruins in God of War 3.

[@OhNoTheFace]

Him or others?

[@10RexTheWolf01]

@@OhNoTheFace Kratos cause in the end death, disease and chaos remained.

[@horrorfan117]

But he also released hope back to the world. With that power, the people of his homeland have recovered and are starting to rebuild.

[@awsomeboy360]

Only because the God's wanted him dead. What did u want him to do? Just die. Lol

[@10RexTheWolf01]

@@awsomeboy360 but they were the ones who put him on this journey in the beginning. His father is Zeus.

[@damien2pv]

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[@Brainflayer]

I think it's hard to say that Kratos "deserves" redemption given everything he's done, but that doesn't mean he can't try or that it's not the right thing to do.

[@keandregreen5628]

He didn’t deserve it just like anakin didn’t

[@MelancholicBodhisattva]

"It is the act of trying to create hope that becomes the hope itself." Kratos is the most deserving of the title of God of Hope *because* he chases a redemption he doesn't deserve. He earns it by the belief he can change, and putting in the work to prove that he has. Even if it's just to prove it to himself.

[@Gamfluent]

All beings deserve redemption, but that doesn’t mean said victims are required to forgive or forget

[@zacharybosley1935]

Quality as always

[@obadijahparks]

To be redeemed in itself doesn't mean anything about worth. Simply to be made right again.

[@Xehanort10]

12:21 As the God of Hope Kratos will probably only go to war when there's no other choice. It won't be his first instinct like in Greece when he was the God of War or when Ares before him was.

[@pablosantos2408]

Can you pls make a video about syndrome from Incredibles that would be awesome!

[@aidanllamas4426]

You should do an invincible video ❤

[@suatt38]

A question ponders in my mind… If someone caused harm to others in their youth, hurting those who didn't deserve it, and sincerely sought to change and make amends later in life but tragically died before they could do so, should they still be judged as a bad person after death?

[@ryanmoore6259]

If someone is genuinely willing to try, they deserve the chance. Kratos ultimately makes the right choice for the right reasons in Ragnarok.

[@1cinnabon]

Goat 🐐

[@GWolfV3]

I think people frequently confuse redemption and atonement. Atonement, making amends, making the actions you did in the past right, this is impossible. He will always have hurt the people he hurt and there is as he said himself no making things right. Redemption is a different process in which a person has changed significantly enough that they have become a truly better person then they were before. Your villain can have a change of heart and become a better person. So you can be redeemed but that doesn't mean you can atone

[@frankfreeman1553]

Well Done

[@kainslegacy78618]

Is it a coincidence that Kratos, sitting peacefully on his throne of service, looks like a stereotypical image of what you would get of a Guru, a spiritual guide?

[@josh-qj2zu]

A line that has stuck will me and will forever stick with me is ironically from a fanfic I read: “Do I deserve this?” “What an irrelevant question. Do you want it?”

[@Birthday888]

This. Redemption, much like forgiveness, isn't something that is ever "deserved". No one is owed forgiveness or redemption. One can only ask for it and try to be worthy of it.

[@loganleahy8227]

What fanfic is this from?

[@andrewlopez6378]

Zeus.. I bring the destruction of Olympus! 😀

[@Papa_Frita2575]

I find it dumb to say that one doesn’t deserve redemption. Sure there are people who can never be redeemed, but that doesn’t take away from the fact that redemption isn’t something you deserve, it’s an action. Like she Tyr said that the “good” is a practice. While many people can never forgive Kratos and not want him to change, Kratos has changed and he can continue to make up for the things that he’s done.

[@JC-kz9zn]

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[@UrbanCohort]

Redemption, yes. Forgiveness however? Probably impossible. I think redemption is tricky. I think there's a strong argument to be had for even the darkest of villains to make a new choice and perhaps become a positive force before they go.

[@BabelFish_]

you should make a video on vegeta

[@astroboy6515]

Redemption cannot be earned or deserved. It can only be achieved, or not.

[@everettenjeze6276]

There is only one true way to truly reach his redemption. He must make peace with the people of Greece and his homeland. Yes he was able to forgive himself and fully turn over a new leaf as a new man and open his heart to the world around him after ragnarok and Valhalla, but now he must earn the forgiveness of the people of Greece and try help them rebuild(despite them rebuilding). Kratos is now on the path of redemption is the way I see it. He just needs to answer for his crimes in Greece. Once he does that and is accepted and forgiven by the people of Greece he can truly be redeemed and become a God like tyr and the God he always wanted to be. He needs to follow the path Faye painted for him in the mural.

[@lonewolf5739]

Please do hanzo the salamander

[@darknessoftruth9314]

Kratos is not the first in the Greek pantheon to cause mass chaos and destruction for selfish motives. In the beginning, Gaea and Uranus ruled, with the sky deity ruling as a tyrant who sealed some of his own children in the pits of Tartarus. Gaea then plotted with her youngest son Kronos to overthrow him, which he did after removing his jewels. But he became a tyrant in turn and, fearing he too would be overthrown by his own children, devoured them as they were born. His wife Rhea, with the counsel of Gaea, would save their last son Zeus, and have him hide away. he would later return to free his siblings and defeat Kronos and the other Titans. Afterwards, he would rule Olympus, until Kratos came into the picture. After being exposed to the evil fear, he began to suspect that Kratos was plotting to overthrow him as Zeus had done to his father. Ultimately, he was slain by his son, just as his father and grandfather had before him. From this, it becomes clear that Kratos comes from a cycle of violence, a tale of sons and fathers killing or imprisoning each other to grab power. It could be said that Kratos has broken that cycle by raising Atreus in a way that ensured such a conflict would not arise again. He saved his son by sparing him from that fate, but now he must save himself by breaking from it once and for all.

[@thesystem3273]

REDEMPTION, dude hell literally spat him out REPEATEDLY

[@CoolSaver]

What does it even mean, "be redeemed"? Who decides if you are redeemed or not? I think this choice goes personally to the people you wronged, and after seeing your path, your good deeds, your "chasing of redemption you know you will never deserve", some of them may say that you are redeemed yourself. The other will say you will never be redeemed though. So... the term "deserve redemption" is highly subjective then? There's no point in chasing it, except if it helps you to stay on the right path. The next step in your growth then would be: "i don't care if i deserve a redemption, i need no redemption, what's done is done, there's only what will you do now, and i choose to do things right just because they need to be right".

[@AndrewMabon]

The Greek aspects can be said to symbolically represent heaven, and the Norse represent Earth. This furthers the Christ parallel.

[@TECH3_]

do nanami from jjk PLEASE

[@junekazama4578]

I hope so much Kratoses story is not complete. I am beging for a new GOW title. There a so many gods to slay left. In old Egypt. In Asia. Japan, China ect... In America the mayan gods...

[@madambutterfly1997]

Somebody who wants to be judged and punished for the things they've done

[@samuraibear5102]

Depends on how you see redemption. Forgiving yourself nope don't think kratos can truly forgive what he's done. Be forgiven no again theirs no one alive how can forgive what he's done. To be see as more yes kratos and everyone in the norse has seen him try to be more than the vengeful man of youth.

[@janpaulgarde8639]

Do you have a video about Sephiroth?

[@thegreatacolyt1277]

Yes