Valken M17 Magfed Paintball Gun - Review

[@dblevins343]

Bro its milsig. I will say I'm happy someone is still producing this little beauty. I've wanted one for years

[@FNCSEzlo]

I have one but my mom said I can't used it😢

[@dblevins343]

@@FNCSEzlo use it at a paintball field or just around the house?

[@FNCSEzlo]

@@dblevins343 yeah I will use it in my back yard, have a good day

[@FNCSEzlo]

@@dblevins343 yeah I will use it in the yard, have a good day

[@dblevins343]

@FNCSEZLO depending on where you live, that may or may not be a good idea. Take some advice from someone who didn't listen to their parents (me) regarding my old airsoft gun, don't use it unless your parents are okay with it.

[@martywell5372]

You can put a hopper on it, but why would you !!! Its an amazing magfed🤙

[@hollowdonte]

Ammo capacity would be my answer but they sell box mags and they're amazing

[@rankothefiremage]

It's a Milsig, the while not wrong that it's like the TPX inside, both are automag based. Also it's not a response trigger, it's a true full auto

[@tomhewitt8017]

It's only like a tipx in that there's a bolt that moves forward, and a regulator. Everything else is different. The bolt is always under pressure, there's no spool valve, and the bolt is held back by a sear that the trigger disconnects. It's like an automag with no dump chamber.

[@kingoflowendpaintball1040]

how did they make it full auto if it's mechanical?

[@rankothefiremage]

@@kingoflowendpaintball1040 Some trickery with the gas system, i mean that's the way a normal firearm does it, but i don't know the exact break down of the systems

[@SagesFury]

Hey bro at ans... it's just a milsig m17. It uses the same hopper adapter as that marker.

[@RiptidePaintball]

Bouvard C. Dude valken bought milsig no duh its the same marker 🙄

[@ecco4000]

@@RiptidePaintball From what I have been advised by some people very close to the business is, Valken has only bought a license to distribute and will make their own model. MilSig is still in business and continues to sell products.

[@justalpha9138]

This alongside the TMC are my two choices for what magfed markers I'll end up choosing to buy. You can actually mod your TMC to shoot first strike rounds (Riptide Paintball has a tutorial on how to do it) so that fact had made this decision super hard for me! :/ I know both are so great! Edit: now my mind has been made, and I'm sold on the First Strike T15 based off of me seeing and hearing about a decent amount of people having reliability issues with this thing. Edit 2: I just bought and used a T15 and I LOVE it so far! I can't wait to get the full auto kit upgrade I also pre-ordered and to modify the T15 exactly how I want over time; I've already got quite a few of the upgrades that I want, but I'm going to be taking it up quite a few notches in the future, believe me! :D Edit 3: I still love my T-15 (the only thing I don't like about it is the barrel mount system) dearly. However comma, I'm actually re-considering getting one of these things in order to make a functioning replica of the Red Death from Destiny 1! :D

[@snois2]

Isn't Valken M17 a lot stronger than First Strike T15 though?

[@justalpha9138]

@@snois2 Nope. I now own a T-15 and it's absolutely amazing

[@F22B58]

@@justalpha9138 how amazing is it I’m stuck between the m17 and the t15

[@justalpha9138]

@@F22B58 Dude, if you ask me, the T-15 is the way to go. I've used it for a couple of months now, in one case through some of the most challenging conditions I've ever encountered while playing paintball, and it performed admirably! It does have its flaws for sure, but at the end of the day it is REALLY good, and you definitely get what you're paying for. If you do go the T-15 route, I do have a lot of tips on how to improve your experience and to make sure things go smoothly.

[@justalpha9138]

@@F22B58 What did you end up getting?

[@sggee]

I think Travis answered my question already but this was formally the Milsig M17 I take it.

[@SagesFury]

Milsig m17 is still around. The valken is made at the same factory as the milsig ones.

[@Scarcer]

@@SagesFury This is the Milsig M17, Milsig Direct Canada closed shop and Valken picked up as the new distributor. It's 100% Milsig but rebranded.

[@Scarcer]

@@ITSJUSTBERG2020 something like a TiPX would be better for home defense. ANS is trying to sell the M17 with Co2 which will damage it.

[@Qejee]

@@Scarcercant you just buy a compressed air tank?

[@Scarcer]

@@Qejee yeah, but my point is that this kit is an aweful purchase

[@tbryant509]

I love my Milsig M17 I hope with Valken stepping in parts will be easy to get, do you know if they are going to sell the standard paintball only mags or is it only the hybrid?

[@SagesFury]

The paintball only mags sucked. They should not sell them XD

[@tbryant509]

I haven't had issues with the ones I've gotten so far

[@joseriquelme1968]

Hybrids are better

[@Scarcer]

@@joseriquelme1968 Hm, I heard the hybrids sucked. I'm considering getting a different magwell anyway.

[@hectoraponte8005]

Anyway we can run dye v2 mags? Maybe with a adapter

[@ashravenpb]

I love my MK3 and Ill definitely be picking up an M17 when I can afford one

[@ajlainez1944]

You ever get one? Considering getting one if you have got it how has the experience been?

[@justalpha9138]

@@ajlainez1944 I was considering buying this, but in the end I recently bought a T15 because it had more of what I wanted. I absolutely LOVE it so far.

[@MrJames-cr6lu]

Excellent review .. thanks for the info!😎

[@producthype87]

hi which would you recommend the tippman magfed with gas through stock or the M17 I am looking for a non-lethal approach to use in a home defense situation instead of my flock 19 obviously I am going to get pepper balls and not paintballs

[@ANSgearPaintball]

If you have any questions or would like some help with placing an order feel free to give us a call at 805-522-8700

[@brinntid]

Go for this one! The TMC is very low quality madr (even thou its great inside)

[@justalpha9138]

@@brinntid Not true at all from what I've heard several times on the field

[@justicepoirier2514]

Looks exactly like my milsig m17a2. Just a different maker. Wonder if they made a adapter for this one, to run remote line with a collapsible stock

[@brinntid]

They did :))

[@alvinbiak8267]

Hey so on mine. When i tighten the tank the fill nipple gets in the way of the guiderail for the buttstock. Help?. 😔

[@DaltonNMantz]

You've probably figured it out by now but you dont have to completely tighten your tank

[@alvinbiak8267]

@@DaltonNMantz I did not. 😆 THANKS.

[@therealfnryan26]

To anybody who wants to know how to fix this on your own look up the Milsig Method playlist

[@alvinbiak8267]

How many mag would one full tank be able to shoot

[@HochstartHarry]

Well in my humble and very small experience about 4-6 mags from 3bar to 1bar. On the standard 200ml bottle. But thats with about 20 empty shots because i can't count rounds for the sake of god 🤣

[@alvinbiak8267]

@@HochstartHarry thank you!

[@dalereiter-eu1pn]

notice he did not try to attach Valken's 13ci-3000psi tank. my new m17 that rail for stock secure to short, and when you screw in tank it puts pressure gauge on bottom thus blocking the stocks rail. we're is valkens quality control??

[@snoopyny]

The only thing I hate must of the mag fed paintball markers are not in production, plus there is alot of people trying to get a mag fed like tippmann tcr I can can't get one now I saw this one is not in the market so what should we get?

[@AshamedTripod2]

When you put the tank on it, do you tighten all the way? Cause if I do that I have a pressure gage that's in the way

[@asaroso2029]

Christ I saw on their site they selling it with c02 canisters. This marker should never be used with co2.

[@ecco4000]

Exactly! CO2 is very bad to run through the Heat Core Engine of these markers!! It is actually supposed to damage the engine after long use.

[@xi-xeroxo-ix343]

so is the gun co2 or hpa?

[@asaroso2029]

@@xi-xeroxo-ix343 the marker is hpa. Co2 will destroy the orings

[@DaltonNMantz]

I want this, but am a bit skeptical, why is it so cheap? it's full auto and can shoot fsr, why so cheap though?

[@jeffymario4337]

$300+ seems pretty expensive to me

[@DaltonNMantz]

@@jeffymario4337 300 is about the cheapest you'll find for a new magfed

[@DaltonNMantz]

Especially one that has built in full auto

[@jeffymario4337]

@@DaltonNMantz theyre cheaper but u have to buy the tank separately

[@jeffymario4337]

@@DaltonNMantzi seem sone on Amazon for $150 and another for $200

[@solreavir]

Do the ergonomics include upper and lower receiver separation similar to AR too?

[@xflama8982]

Great marker 🔥

[@kkutube1972]

Is the tank standard to pellet tank? Carbon fiber tank?

[@siddarthaone7355]

why is this listed as “THIS ITEM IS OUT OF STOCK AND WILL NEVER BE BACK IN STOCK. DO NOT ORDER” on your website now...? Valken says the gun is still available...

[@DaltonNMantz]

I just bought one off of MCSUS.com

[@siddarthaone7355]

@@DaltonNMantz Thanks, I think that's what I'll end up getting. The Grimburg modded one is SICK but also $1900!

[@jeffymario4337]

What is the size of the railing on this gun got? i was thinking about purchasing a 20mm red dot fit to it when i buy the gun itself.

[@GypsyDanger2000]

It's a standard picatiny rail so I think it should fit

[@linwoodriddick7031]

How much does it cost

[@stonerjesus6144]

i've been looking at M17's or M17a2's, but i keep hearing that these Chop paint really bad. sounds like a magazine feed issue from whats described. thoughts? and if it is a issue, would a Magwell adapter to make it fit T15 or Dmag/Helix mags be worth it ( MCSUS has them for 20-30$)

[@justalpha9138]

I've heard some people say that, but it doesn't seem to be the majority. I'm trying to decide between this and the TMC and modding that to buy for both a future project and a new marker

[@justalpha9138]

My mind has been set on the T15 because I've seen reviews on people having air issues using FS rounds with this gun and chopping issues.

[@GypsyDanger2000]

The chopping issues are for the a2 and not the valken one.

[@shawnsmith6864]

I need help when I put my tank in the back it doesn’t shoot air how do I get the air to come out so I can shoot the gun??

[@canadian-nicks1627]

Make sure it’s screwed in all the way and cock the bolt if you haven’t figured it out after 2 months

[@michaelplaczek9385]

This gun was Milsig's baby. Too bad you didn't say anything about that.

[@martywell5372]

I've got 2 "MILSIG" M17 CQC M17A2 LOVE THEM🤙

[@BambooSwan]

Isn't this just a Milsig M17??? Did Valken buy the company or just license the design etc??? Please inform???

[@IroncrossCreations]

Valken it taking over in distribution for milsig direct Canada. Not taking over but the Canadian branch is no more.

[@BambooSwan]

@@IroncrossCreations thanks for info I just ordered some replacement parts from them yesterday for my M17 CQC

[@just.bob.j]

How many shots will you get out of that tank that you have on there?

[@ericlujan7085]

60

[@bstceltics4]

I recently used this gun and in not really a fan you cant adjust the velocity while the tank is on and unless its velocity is maxed it barely shoots and when yhe velocity is way up it blows threw the air supply

[@ashravenpb]

You can adjust the velocity while pressurized. Sounds like the regulator needed a rebuild or you were using a low output tank

[@tomhewitt8017]

Sounds like yours was broken, you can absolutely adjust velocity while pressurised, and it gets 5-6 mags to a 13ci tank, which is standard. Granted it take a few hundred rounds to break in and get full efficiency, but that typical

[@DTS214]

FS compatible mag feed marker for $250?? Wow

[@justalpha9138]

I was considering getting this, but I bought a First Strike T15 because it had more of what I wanted compared to this gun, despite how insanely close I was to getting the M17 instead. I don't regret my choice whatsoever so far, I absolutely love the T15 at the moment.

[@ausbildungforyou8371]

Is that the model with 40 joules and fully automatic

[@GypsyDanger2000]

If it's legal in your country then yeah it will always come with the "fun switch"

[@tomhewitt8017]

Dude c'mon it's a milsig. You know it isn't new. Has been a wicked marker for a while though

[@MD-kn3lk]

Is barrel riffled or i need to buy one?

[@justalpha9138]

I'm pretty sure it's already rifled considering how it's designed to shoot FS out of the box

[@RiptidePaintball]

Can this use co2 and compressed air?

[@tbryant509]

hpa only, it needs the high pressure to cycle the bolt

[@xi-xeroxo-ix343]

it only uses hpa?

[@HochstartHarry]

Well co2 is going to wear out the o-rings alot faster. Id just use hpa.

[@justalpha9138]

Oh hello there. I'm deciding on this or the TMC and modding it for my project and it's SO hard because I know how great both of these guns are! :/

[@dartfroggy]

Did Valken buy Milsig or something?

[@SagesFury]

No they licensed the design. Milsig is also going to make m17s and their own markers.

[@dartfroggy]

@@SagesFury Gotcha, thank you.

[@TheGravewalker]

No. Milsig is a Taiwanese company. They are still producing the same gun. It's just not sold under the same brand any more.

[@rankothefiremage]

Milsig's American distro guy retired, and their CA distro people moved out of the industry, so they struck a distro deal with Valken

[@lilarny6725]

20 round ball, 18 fsr

[@bryanportillo3493]

can you use a tank thats 48/4500

[@oldschool713]

That's what I want to know can u take of the sliding rail

[@GypsyDanger2000]

Yep you can take out the rail to fit all tank sizes provided the knob or the crossings match.

[@Liquidazot]

If the springnis able to push balls up. And instalimg mag automaticly turn on spring relese. How do you expect that the balls from a hopper gonna dropnim the mag from a hopper? This is absolutley OUT OF LOGICK.

[@markegipto1462]

This entire sentence is out logic

[@kb9qne163]

So milsig got bought out by Vulcan,

[@zethtenacious964]

It's just a milsig like to the T

[@DaTecNerd]

This is a Milsig M17

[@williamholsey]

It's a m17 stop acting like is something new

[@kevinperron5767]

Lmao its so short

[@shadoclothing2376]

That's what she said.....

[@bryanportillo3493]

??

[@therealfnryan26]

This was painful to watch as he didn't show anything other than what the internals looked like...lol

[@johndenzel1434]

TALK ABOUT THE GREAT PRETENDER🤭🤭🤭🤭 BROTHER YOU LOST A SUB. THATS A MILSIG REBRANDED YOU KNOW IT I KNOW IT NOW YOUR CUSTOMER'S DO TOO

[@justalpha9138]

It's not a MILSIG rebranded, Valken now owns the rights to the M17 design so it'll fall under that name.