VALORANT Raze Nerf Comparison (Patch 8.11)

[@florianb.9840]

Neon slide with no error is absurd

[@rashidkhan-xm4rl]

yep against the core mechanics of this game

[@nashaigra8973]

Jett's knives say: hello. Shotguns say hello. Raze's RPG says hello

[@zeratultasadarov401]

⁠​⁠@@nashaigra8973 Jet's knives are projectiles, and hard to hit and also need 8 orbs Shotguns are useless on medium-long distances Raze's rpg is a projectile as well

[@williamwinckler7353]

@@zeratultasadarov401 jett knives are hitscan

[@yalocaldex]

@@zeratultasadarov401 jett knives are hitscan bro what are you on? this is not genji lol

[@cube3156]

The raze nerf distance travelled is not the main nerf, it's mainly your movement velocity You will just be really easy to track midair

[@KangaValorant]

Ya that's a good way of wording it

[@ProdyfiOri]

Tbh, basically means satchels can’t be used to jump people with ARs anymore and more so towards short distance shotgun. These changes can be played around by using satchels more for positioning and strategic plays than for jumping people like monkeys. Neon buffs are going crazy, but I think iso buff is going to be much more annoying for high elo players.

[@Bro-zc9ys]

as someone who only plays swift, i liked jumping people like monkeys with raze, i dont keep up with competitive though so idk if this nerf was justified or necessary but i loathe this nerf

[@Pitakie]

Neon is actually crazy now, the iso buff is also really cool..

[@mo1ya938]

Iso : 'What is my purpose?' Riot : 'You swing the Op'

[@MarvoldX]

it is so busted tbh

[@simonnilsson8375]

@@MarvoldXas a Iso otp, its not gonna be that big tbh. Iso could already do this, its just that now you can get a 2nd chance. You have to fight when you activate your abilities and if the enemies run away when they see it, well no 2nd ability for Iso. Having the shield up instantly will only matter like 20% of the times you fight, and will only win you the fight around 5% more than it did previously, but it will also lose you the round if the round lasted more than a minute, which isn’t great. Losing the increased reload speed suck as well.

[@tanto1814]

​​@@simonnilsson8375 Bro stop talking like "20% 🤓" like where you even get those numbers lmaoo. Stop acting smart. The point is before this if someone died to iso at least they know not to peek him with op. Now there's no knowing if the angle you're holding with op is safe or not cuz iso can just activate anytime. Imagine trying to be a smartass but still sounds stupid lmaoo 😂😂

[@MarvoldX]

@@simonnilsson8375 the busted thing i ment is its ability to active shiled anytime without shooting an orb, knowing there is an awp or chamber ult, gives u Massive advantage, as ur shield can fully stop it, so u peak kill and survive easily, the rest of the game is normal not busted, but the active shiled anytime is so busted, specially against snipers, sherif and guradian

[@user-ey4ut9uc8w]

@@MarvoldXexactly, i don’t know how this dude glazes over the fact that he gets a free op peak every single round (btw it also beats out the sherrif, shotguns, certain ultra and utils). That’s crazy and game mechanic breaking. It’s also gonna make the Smurf problem worse imo since now they can always peak for a long gun fight and have an even much higher chance of winning that gun fight. His ability even changes the dynamic in 2v1s either defending or offense.

[@Alternateuniverse7157]

four slides per round in any scenario is gonna be insane.

[@odog6009]

That would happen only happen in very rare scenarios. Not any scenario.

[@Jawwwss]

sometimes five or six though because of recharge holy

[@sagetarus1]

You only get 3 slides, the 4th that you're counting is barely even a slide as it has to be done before the barrier comes down. The third slide itself only comes from an ult activation. Sure she can regen with 2 kills, but the rounds already almost over at that point.

[@noerosier4714]

​@@sagetarus1you currently get slide back with ult so this should make 5 possible with 4 kills ( 6 if the ult now regenerate both dashes)

[@edciell]

Technically u can kill 7 times in 1 round (with enemies clove and sage using their ult) so u can get 3 extra slide, now u can have 5 slide. Neon ult gonna reset 1 slide (I don't think it gonna reset 2 slide) so u can get 6 slide in one round.

[@hellstorm3132]

Temet gonna Four slide now 😭

[@gpfhantom1890]

Can't wait to die to a sliding Neon, even more run and game now

[@solarrxenon]

aimlabs

[@mrpineapples9716]

no cos before it was now it is skill.

[@Lindeni]

​@@mrpineapples9716 it wasn't a skill before and now it's even less of a skill.

[@mrpineapples9716]

@@Lindeni yeah cool but ur wrong. How are you gonna call it luck when it is 100% where you put ur mouse

[@cringyaf8325]

@@mrpineapples9716but it’s less skillful in a game where u mainly stop before shooting a bullet. Imagine if riot removes all weapon movement error from the falling velocity after Jett’s updraft so u can spam ur vandal and place ur crosshairs freely like ur Jett ulti while falling and multi frags. That’s where ur logic flaw if u think it’s 100% skill

[@badalsaibo]

Annoying gets more annoying now. Neon.

[@abeldemess7437]

Imma still get one tapped in my neon ult 😂

[@mijkphlt]

Good you deserve it(😂jk bro don’t take it seriously) but damn neons ult seems borderline uncounterable now

[@rarigate]

Raze is a hard agent to master, it just makes sense for her to be great when learned, those satchels are hard to pull off and they should be rewarded for it. They are pushing her to the gutter each patch and require so much effort for less reward

[@shroomi.dori.]

why nerf one agents movement into the ground, just to completely break another agents movement

[@ryuvereignnolife3980]

To change the competetive scene up a bit for more interesting matches probably

[@ender4429]

Everyone complainging about the Neon changes has probably barely played Neon. She's a really weak agent without a specific role like the other duelists. Hopefully these buffs will make her playable, that's all. She's still in no way going to be OP. All of her util (except maybe her stun) has no situation where there wouldn't be a better piece of util.

[@ultron3065]

Finally, someone who actually has a brain

[@Noriaela]

I doubt she'll be played even with these changes. Her util is worse. The only time she'll be used is to be abused by smurfs because lower rank players suck. Her changes dont make her helpful, just more annoying.

[@ender4429]

@@Noriaela Honestly I've never seen a smurfing Neon but maybe. I think these changes buff and focus her kit on her running, which is what is unique about her and what people play her for. It still doesn't make her very good but I think it will make her more fun for the people who like her.

[@Bananana4320]

they should have kept the 2 stuns ngl

[@leogerald3864]

@@ender4429 not fun to play against thats for sure , playing against good neon mains was already painful but this is gonna be another level.

[@flame5104]

Neon main will go crazy 🤧🤧

[@KookieOCE]

yo kanga slight error on the last one u showed neon gameplay instead of iso again

[@KangaValorant]

Unfortunately I had no way of getting more footage of the Iso change for now (i.e. the orbs still appearing and stuff), so I just repeated the Neon footage. Appreciate you looking out though

[@KookieOCE]

@@KangaValorant

[@pluton697]

Imma predict that ISO will be the new meta. Especially when you think the opponent will buy an Op and hold an angle, pop your shield and peek. You either get a free kill or force them to re-peek into potentially multiple targets. Also, imagine a late round clutch against an ISO, he peeks, you break his shield, he puts on another shield and peeks again. Its too broken to have potentially two free peeks

[@cursedgamerx1436]

Confused side of Valorant. One patch they're nerfed n then buffed to increase P-rate

[@alterI4]

2min video, straight to the point, good examples. Good video

[@yalocaldex]

bro I still get spammed with raze on air before nerf and now it's even worse 💀good thing I'm also a neon main

[@CookiePire]

just want to say thank you for a being a great youtuber

[@indi3_B]

Yall neon slide with perfect accuracy ain’t nearly as good as it sounds not only were u pretty accurate already but now u can’t rely on luck to hit shots. Plus with stun and wall nerfs the biggest thing is the second slide witch if u have ever played neon u will know why it’s a must, that and the fuel returning faster she just felt so clunky to play with strafe slow and 1 slide without ult or hours of training in privates Plus this makes sentinels feel more valuable witch is a good thing

[@athanmantas7134]

man i realy want to know how this will effect the meta. maby neon and iso are now going to be self sefficiant fraging dulests

[@suryous6924]

jett : hey how about my dash ? why i didnt get buff? and how about my refresh ult when i rightclick

[@mrfluffygaming4525]

Neon buff is crazyyy I'm going to lose my plat rank in probably a couple matches

[@mrfluffygaming4525]

Update: I'm back in gold.. that's stuupid I've been banged with reyna and neon since the last days y'all r insane pls nerf neon 😭😭 I'm just so bad

[@karma_oop]

Iso's buff isn't bad don't get me wrong, but the performance increase with these buffs between Iso and Neon is gonna be night and day. Drastically different. When it comes to whether neon needed a buff or not idk, but I hate when they drastically buff or nerf an agent in one patch instead of putting in one at a time and monitoring the results... would hate to see her get nerfed to the ground. That aside Reyna's changes sound fun and can't wait to try them!

[@falcon4359]

Then the incremental changes won't be enough to get people's attention & play the buffed agent. It will get tested less, CS & Val players hate change. They'll gladly keep playing how they have been playing since years. Buffing a character helps them find out which parts of their kit could be problems & which parts could be under powered

[@elbronzone7174]

Nah but you cannot satchel from root to the top of the box on lotus making clearing this rat spot a nightmare

[@SirCrabsy]

Yeah they need to nerf neon movement if they are going to nerf raze movement. They nerfed jett movement to now that it is down to one updraft so Neon did not need the buff.

[@simonnilsson8375]

Some Neon pro mains consider taking out the gun faster a nerf to Neon, because it delays her sprinting slightly, meaning you’re more vulnerable after dash. Also its an actual games the shooting accuracy is impossible, you require aim bot to use it well.

[@zsd6344]

the neon slide is actually insane

[@quandale-gayming]

Can you show us haven changes if there are any?

[@loonylenlady6991]

As a neon main this pleases me greatly

[@Nyx3396]

So Iso got nerfed, i mean if that one shield has the same timer than before having only one is worse than before

[@Nyx3396]

ok, after two kill u got another but in my opinion was better before

[@swage8566]

my prediction is neons buff will change barely anything, her ranked play rate will go up by 2% and pro play will just swing back to jett a little more and raze a little less, hope i’m wrong but idk see how this ages

[@_ELzY_]

OMG HALLELUJAH ITS NOT THAT BAD RAZE IS STILL ALIVE

[@dexterfromlabs]

Neons pick is gonna go crazy high

[@WibuSableng]

can you tell me font you use for New and Old , ?? i intrested

[@dyvyby]

Wait wouldn't neon moving sideways create dumb game mechanics that would make her 2x faster

[@nehemiahcamiling6927]

Is it just me that hates the new communication wheel ? Who thought it was a good idea to change ots entire layout for new voice lines

[@kemy7762]

neon sideways moving is 9.11? riot is talking about neon destroying the twin towers on 9/11 in the valorant world

[@vendolanz6711]

talk about overloaded agents...

[@sdte21oino58]

The game was perfect 1 year ago. Last time good agent they added was Fade. All agents after shouldn’t be in this game. They destroying this game. Why they add outplaw? It’s scar-20 from cs go for 2000$. If they gonna do like this they destroy game.

[@spooxsy]

Interested to see the speed of Reyna dismis

[@hooleeshiet3687]

That's kinda funny, riot nerfed/buffed based on how popular agent was not by balancing. If some agent very popular in tournament be ready NERF GOES BRRR

[@captainmax1718]

Pls can you show the new battlepass if its there

[@8ouhl]

I don’t even play raze but the satchel nerfs are disgusting. Totally removes what makes her an engaging character.

[@travissutta]

KANGA!!!!!!!! UPDATE YOUR BANNER YOU HIT 86.4K !!!!!! 3.6K MORE TO GO

[@Erox006]

people expected raze to get viper treatment

[@notenzo5743]

The raze nerf was really unnecesarry. The duelists were perfectly balanced execept for iso, LITERALLY NO1 ASKED FOR THIS.

[@ChiliSainz]

This patch gives me mixed feelings. As a Neon main, I'm extremely excited for her buffs. But as a frequent Raze player, these nerfs are so unnecessary.

[@basaaaan]

NAH NOW ILL GET THE PLACEBO EFFECT WITH RAZE

[@EGGM4N]

Honestly, not that bad. Raze was always over tuned, being able to do everything. Which reminds me of old school Jett. I do think it's a shame that we'd lose the power fantasy, they'll be more balanced. And as much as I'd probably hate dealing with Neon after this, atleast there'll be more variety in duelists. And thank god Iso can have SOMETHING to help him be self sufficient.

[@mrpineapples9716]

people are gonna hit some sick clips with neon slide

[@NikoMkd]

Were there any changes on Haven?

[@PRPG2024]

Not sure about that neon one

[@JustASimpFromVN]

Têmt reaction to this neon buff iinformation: MY TIME HAS COME

[@levi3933]

Any haven map changes?

[@KangaValorant]

Doesn't seem like it, unless they didn't add them to the influencer preview

[@WhosDeity]

Smurfs are about to go absolutely stupid with Neon. I can’t believe this change actually happened

[@heimsuchen]

I HATE WHEN I PLACED TURRET MY TEAM RAZE JUST KNOCK MY TURRET OUT OF SIGHT (My turret just facing wall)

[@AverageJamaL170]

If raze nerf is that much then not a big prblm Raze mains can do satchels normally at a nerfed distance where they will think about it early on and dumb raze lockers will fail the use of satchels as they did before anyway.

[@SmashedBeans68]

its not only the distance, the velocity will be less also, meaning you'll be much easier to track

[@AverageJamaL170]

@@SmashedBeans68 I mean after playing too many doomlike fast paced games, apex cs, the previous raze velocity wasn't that hard, we just need to focus when raze starts jumping around. so yeah that is a nerf.

[@SmashedBeans68]

@@AverageJamaL170 yeahhh i know, its only for people like us who have played fast paced games

[@nwgverified]

I'm going back to CS, this is ridiculous

[@NewPallav]

Wait so kanga, there are no new changes in haven?

[@KangaValorant]

Not that I saw, unless they didn’t add them to the influencer build.

[@Noob_God6773]

does that mean that neon can now slide shot with a awp with no error ??????💀💀

[@AnnkitSharma]

Does haven have any changes?

[@WellPlayed-sg8jh]

Neon slide buff was unnecessary!! Don't have any complaint with others changes tho

[@xLynxxx]

Bruh why does it shows neon clip on Iso. Error

[@dannywoo3535]

Buff Phoenix please.

[@aerophobia1086]

Any Haven changes?

[@bribriannn4052]

I thought val was supposed to be "precise gunplay" whats precise about a sliding neon one-tapping you going 100mph sliding across ur screen

[@sagetarus1]

What in the last 4 years have made you believe that the game has been following the "precise gunplay" mantra? It's literally a meme.

[@Bonehund]

Well she has to be pretty fucking precise to do that, no?

[@Thisisthegreatestatofalltime]

Nice to see Valo sticking to its CS roots with every small balance change being controversial no matter how small

[@LEK]

These are not small balance changes honestly.

[@ItzEschi42]

are they any changes at haven?

[@YoriichiTsugikuni-g8z]

Now ISO needs 0 credits to dodge raze ult nice riot...

[@Lominen]

Neon strafe buff is gonna go crazy 😭

[@Drpiplup]

The devs are brain dead removing error from neon slide and they say precise gunplay

[@XXXXXX-wb5ku]

riot give a same blastpack pls :(

[@ignisterr.9418]

I fucking hate neon because the movement, now she can one tap doing it as a part of her gameplay, fk no!

[@S4K4Moto]

we are going full Apex/Titanfall after this patch 🗣️🔥🔥🔥

[@tox1nval]

cjaiye got a huge buff

[@Zer00127]

Neon with an odin is actually going to be pretty good lmao

[@akashkumar-fd9yf]

When will this be live?

[@josemiguel4551]

11th of this month i believe

[@nacun4740]

@@josemiguel4551 yes, we all have 2 days to live

[@Moooisme]

these guys in the comment talking about neon buff gonna be op, doesn't know that IT'S HARD TO MASTER IT. Even Yoru at some point being called as troll agent. it's only this year lot pro players starting to pick up some yoru here and there. Of course neon would be annoying as f, but only for people that have mastered neon. Even in pro plays, only Rb/f0rsaken/Miniboo playin the Neon. Even in masters Shanghai Neon has 0% pick rate. I mean Valorant would be boring if it's still only raze/jett the only mobility duelist here and there, at least by making Neon a bit op(by some people that master her), we could see some change in the way people play Neon/against neon.

[@Moooisme]

No one even gonna take the hassle to master neon if Neon not gonna be good anyway. So I think these buffs is a step towards good direction. imo.

[@tatlicgaming7835]

Does anyone know if you can still super boost with raze satchels and ult?

[@mohedabbas9004]

No haven changes ? V

[@ryanreviews8566]

not that much of a difference to raze tbh. neon is gonna feel crazy especially in pubs and ISO MY BOY has always been good and this shield buff is gonna make him 2x as better.

[@RyxFPS]

Neon buffed slide + shotguns 😊

[@frost9681]

The neon change is really, really stupid. She was already the most obnoxious character in the game for run and gunning, but having a perfectly accurate vandal + faster than running speed slide that lowers your head hitbox at the same time has very little counterplay

[@mrpineapples9716]

with the silde before u spray and pray and now u have to track so if you hit the shot you actually deserve it

[@frost9681]

@@mrpineapples9716 still doesn't change the fact that it lacks counter play, nor does it change the fact that sliding with other weapons is still luck based, but stronger now (shotguns, stinger, etc.). Valorant is not a game where full movement and full accuracy mix well. This is a very bad change imo

[@mrpineapples9716]

@@frost9681 fair enough

[@SynergyHD]

​@@mrpineapples9716in ranked, yes. In pro play? Bro they can hit their shots any day

[@mrpineapples9716]

@@SynergyHD neon in pro play? they should just run chamber every game if you think their aim is the deciding factor

[@bredy9545]

After the Neon buff Valorant is slowly becoming Apex Legends

[@JohnDoe-gt3jr]

Poor Jinggg Went back from the military to get this

[@ambasing69]

pretty balanced nerf for raze cause a jumping mf in mid air already throws off your crosshair placement

[@CraftCamp2]

using neon in the title will def do better

[@ksya473]

aight time to back being a neon main

[@PRPG2024]

Glove that raze nerfed cause wtf was thatspeed. U couldnt shoot her in the air if she landed it.

[@steviesavagegs8791]

Man trying to kill a good neon is already annoying wtf

[@kayneshawn2]

when is the update comming out

[@FizziDev]

11 june

[@kayneshawn2]

@@FizziDev ok thx

[@ravisingh5906]

when new update is coming

[@beep0333]

ANY BP UPDATES??

[@KangaValorant]

Nah the battle pass is still a few weeks ago, all this content is arriving in the patch prior to next Episode / Battle Pass

[@Jaded1221]

Cant imagine rank games will be swarm by neon and iso 🤮

[@braxtonthelucario2129]

Finally my boy iso got a buff i like the idea

[@primate90]

That neon buff will break the game

[@natsukashii9347]

riot after split 2...oh shit neon is too strong..let's ground her

[@realsillyyuri]

ive got a headache watching these

[@phantom7958]

Good nerf, raze is impossible to kill mid air sometimes