Van Cliburn plays Scriabin (vaimusic.com)

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@bernardkulche
@bernardkulche 13 жыл бұрын
Van Cliburn has his own, very impressive interpretation.. (Playing the piano has nothing to do with 'who is the fastest'.)
@AdamCzarnowski
@AdamCzarnowski 12 жыл бұрын
The sea of flowers strewn behind the artist and the tumultuous applause after the performance show that the Russian audience understood and appreciated fully what a unbelievable youthful flowering of pianistic genius they were witnessing. It's a pity the same cannot be said about the KZbin audience, with a few notable exceptions.
@piano345
@piano345 13 жыл бұрын
Passionate, intense and expansive. A performance in the grand manner. A wonderful encore!
@Palaiozografiotis
@Palaiozografiotis 13 жыл бұрын
Aah!!! ... Technique here always at the service of expression!... and such continuity of 'line'.... A veritable master class of what heights true artistry can aspire to reach...
@derekgeorgeandrews
@derekgeorgeandrews 4 жыл бұрын
This is awesome...best performance I've ever heard of this piece. I like slower tempi in general, I feel music more powerfully this way.
@felmusik5043
@felmusik5043 4 жыл бұрын
@пиу. пиу Ар yessss Sultanov genius!!! The middle part he brought middle voices amazing imagination and energy!!
@claudioviteri8113
@claudioviteri8113 8 жыл бұрын
extraordinary pianist
@Martel211996
@Martel211996 14 жыл бұрын
this is one of my favorite versions, it ties with Horowitz. Of course you simply can not compare these two recordings of Horowitz and Cliburn. Simply because Horowitz plays it more Fiery and Passionate, and Cliburn plays it more Romantic and moving. The middle section in this piece is very very, moving, i love it. well done
@AldenHardaway
@AldenHardaway 13 жыл бұрын
Perhaps missing the pockets of lightness that Horowitz reveals, but the whole performance is absolutely staggering - unbelievably powerful with clear and direct expressivity.
@HiltonAlice
@HiltonAlice 7 жыл бұрын
É a melhor interpretação pianistica que jå ouvi desse estudo:força interior contrastando com um romantismo ímpar!
@lynndelano
@lynndelano 15 жыл бұрын
WONDERFUL!!!!
@pianoman1857
@pianoman1857 8 жыл бұрын
OMG BIG HANDS !
@AlexTheodoulides
@AlexTheodoulides 12 жыл бұрын
van Cliburn understood that "patetico" as indication does not obviously mean allegro molto ... thanks to him !
@alanleoneldavid1787
@alanleoneldavid1787 3 жыл бұрын
Listen to scriabin himself recording. He plays very fast and still is Patetico
@MagicDonDino
@MagicDonDino 15 жыл бұрын
Simply a genius!
@Crad4DRC
@Crad4DRC 15 жыл бұрын
awesome
@Troybeallad
@Troybeallad 15 жыл бұрын
Always good to hear and see Van. Very slightly strained performance? He really is photogenic.
@b.alshllal5966
@b.alshllal5966 6 жыл бұрын
Un believable
@Maffchops
@Maffchops 8 жыл бұрын
He creates so much drama in places that simply didn't seem possible to make dramatic - at 1:45 for example, listen to how quiet he starts that phrase in comparison with how loud he finishes it: the tension he's built into it by the end of it is beyond belief! Horowitz is the king of this piece, and whilst for me nothing will ever compare to the way he plays the final section, but Van Cliburn is just as good in other places, if not better. That's what happens when you get 2 once-in-a-lifetime performers playing the same legendary piece - both see the dots on the paper, both do different things: yet the results are still spectacular.
@MusicOneDayS
@MusicOneDayS 11 жыл бұрын
Description is inaccurate- op 8 No 12. NOT- no2
@stevehinnenkamp5625
@stevehinnenkamp5625 3 жыл бұрын
A great performance of powerful piece not in celebrating mode normally heard as encorec frivolous
@tra4la
@tra4la 15 жыл бұрын
It's very beautiful when someone plays sitting among white flowers=)
@scottyjaw4591
@scottyjaw4591 9 жыл бұрын
I love Van, and I love Horowitz awfully! LOL
@tra4la
@tra4la 15 жыл бұрын
Are there flowers on the floor?
@Labienus
@Labienus 15 жыл бұрын
Perhaps it's only for the Tchaikovsky concerto, and his wonderful symbolic role during the cold war, and some of his earlier recordings that he will be remember for. It seems he began with such immense promise, but his career as a serious pianist sadly faded as the years went on. I see most of the videos on YOutube are fittingly from his early days. He's still "only" 74-people like Arrau, Serkin, Horowitz etc. did great work in their 70's.
@Martel211996
@Martel211996 14 жыл бұрын
Also, imagine playing this after Rachmaninoff Piano concerto number 2 AND number 3. To very very, had concertos, and Tchaikovsky first, which is a killer on the arms. And then playing an encore.
@maruohamamaru6839
@maruohamamaru6839 4 жыл бұрын
ヴァン・クライヴァーンさんがこの曲弾いてたなんて感動ものだよ。
@CarmenReyes-em9np
@CarmenReyes-em9np Ай бұрын
Son mias.
@88alan8800
@88alan8800 14 жыл бұрын
if i can imagine artur rubinstein playing this piece, i would see his interpretation being similar for some reason
@jaeyer0
@jaeyer0 14 жыл бұрын
Why all the hating on this performance? Yes, I prefer the Horowitz version too but it's completely ridiculous to say this was bland or uninspired.
@thinkerly1
@thinkerly1 4 жыл бұрын
I don't "prefer" any performance. Preferring one musician's performance over another's is a matter of taste and occasion. This performance is magic.
@steveaulie
@steveaulie 14 жыл бұрын
In my very humble opinion (and judging by all the flowers at his feet), this might have been vC's umteenth encore for the evening and he was simply exhausted. It's not THAT difficult a piece, especially compare it to the Rach 3 or Chopin Sonates that vC devours on other occasions. That being said, yes, I agree this was a lame performance of this piece, but look at the exhaustion on his face. Maybe just moments before he blasted out the last 3 etudes of Chopin, Op 25 !!!
@Martel211996
@Martel211996 14 жыл бұрын
@demosj I stand by what i said before. You can not compare these two recordings, they are different in tone and mood. Do you see the legato used in 1:03 with the 3rd 4th and 5th finger. Just that little phrase is a different mood. where as if you look at Horowitz Carnegie hall edition, he plays it non legato, and plus no pedal. Again, i am not criticizing Horowitz, for i like his interpretation, especially the 1962 studio version. Is there a problem with my opinion?
@cashkenazipiano
@cashkenazipiano 13 жыл бұрын
@nearenough3 I find myself tending to agree with you.
@meredith218461
@meredith218461 14 жыл бұрын
As much as I've admired Van Cliburn over the years I'm afraid after tumultuous Horowitz version he pales into insignificance. I realise this maybe a grossly unfair comparison but Horowitz has eclisped pretty well all subsequent performances.
@klausknulp
@klausknulp 12 жыл бұрын
from forte to fortissimo. where is the piano part 0:48? on board of the titanic?
@kyaume21
@kyaume21 11 жыл бұрын
The Kissin interpretation seems to have had a "hair problem" (according to the comments there), but i would say this one is equally hairy, whereas Horowitz' one is blatantly hairless. So there are two schools: those with and those without hair. I like them all by the way.
@Labienus
@Labienus 15 жыл бұрын
No doubt???? Except to you. Meaningless comment Generally accepted that Horowitz was a great interpreter of Scriabin, and in particular owned this etude-it's that simple
@dmcII
@dmcII 14 жыл бұрын
Who gives a shit about the mistakes ? They are minor ones that if anything make the performance more interesting. Perfection is over-rated and rarely exists anyway. Particularly in a live setting. Even Horowitz chose to leave wrong notes in many of his recordings.
@domvlad
@domvlad 15 жыл бұрын
No doubt, the best INTERPRETER of this Etude. Horowitz is nothing: only sound no music.
@matteopagliari
@matteopagliari 15 жыл бұрын
I love GG, but I actually don't understand the sense of this comparison...
@domvlad
@domvlad 15 жыл бұрын
IMO Horowitz play but Van Clibun sing.
@christopherczajasager9030
@christopherczajasager9030 7 ай бұрын
Really majestic...more masculine than V.H...😅
@yamahaU3
@yamahaU3 15 жыл бұрын
Perhaps if he was swaying around you wouldn't say that, eyes create illusions.
@domvlad
@domvlad 14 жыл бұрын
Horowitz is a great pianist but not a great artist. Van Cliburn is a great artist.
@HiltonAlice
@HiltonAlice 7 жыл бұрын
It's real!Congratulations!
@b1i2l336
@b1i2l336 11 жыл бұрын
Not one of this great pianists's finer moments; he seems tired and uninspired. He was uneven in concert, sometimes hair-raising in his brilliance and insight, at other times bored, tired, or sloppy; I know, I saw him in concert more than any other pianist. I also knew a colleague of his manager's who said he is convinced Cliburns's emotional instability and technical inconsistency drove the manager to an early death.
@thomlin8812
@thomlin8812 6 жыл бұрын
From watching the available videos, certainly Van 'was' tired at this point. We are seeing but one of several encores that followed on the heels of a very long and difficult program. Add to that, Van was continuing throughout his stay to make appearances, give interviews, as well as all the performances given virtually back-to-back at that time. I wonder you felt the need to make such a point of the obvious: no matter what ones profession, ones performance is affected, to one degree or another, by life. Finally, please stop spreading a supposition as if it were fact. His manager died. That's the only fact in your last sentence that's fair to take note of, as far as I am concerned. Thank you.
@martinhablaespagnol
@martinhablaespagnol 10 жыл бұрын
never can understand why people cant respect others people taste ? whats so hard about that ?? life would be so boring if everyone like the same ?! But one thing is sure - Gould was a Maniac and killed himself with amphetamin-tablets - he did NOT understand whats music all about - I think - but thast only my modest private opinian - there wher piano-players worse than him.
@Strino87
@Strino87 14 жыл бұрын
vC is a great maestro but in my opinion the only one who can really read the soul of this piece is Horowitz. Horowitz didn't need so much pedal, so much rubato and so much strong only in the right hand. This record in my opinion is a old and so many times heard romantic version of this piece. Nothing new, i was hoping in a lot much better work from a genius like vC.
@Labienus
@Labienus 15 жыл бұрын
A talent, beyond a doubt, but how great? If you want to hear op. 8 no.12 played incomparably by a man 2 x his age, try the Horowitz on YOuTube from a Carnegie Hall recital. It has all the emotion, all the fire, lacking here, and technique on another level.
@Labienus
@Labienus 15 жыл бұрын
Not sure what that means? Horowitz did not have a singing tone to his playing?....that's not going to work Aside from the technical aspects vC is just not "inside" the piece I find that to some degree in Kissin's version-but much more technically commanding and interesting than this
@IngridBejerman
@IngridBejerman 14 жыл бұрын
At 0:32 a big mistake!
@Labienus
@Labienus 15 жыл бұрын
test
@Ilga512
@Ilga512 14 жыл бұрын
Such a ridiculous statement!
@manolonycejilla
@manolonycejilla 5 жыл бұрын
fail in sec. 31
@kasyapa
@kasyapa 15 жыл бұрын
i don't hear much passion or expression here - he seems to chop it up to evenly-energy'd blocks.
@zuhairbakdoud1360
@zuhairbakdoud1360 5 жыл бұрын
To Martin Martinez: I agree with you totally about ultra strange Gould. I hate js Bach’s “music”, and that was almost all Gould played. To me js Bach was utter rubbish. But the l worship to others. To each his own.
@kk-ht6uw
@kk-ht6uw 5 жыл бұрын
too slow
@organboi
@organboi 11 жыл бұрын
Can't stand Scriabin. Maybe Cliburn can't either.
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