Van Damme, Seagal, Bruce Lee aren't "real fighters" but Michael Jai White is? / Viking Samurai rants

[@dragondon]

We should all do the best we can with what we have and the opportunities we either create or the universe provides. The Viking Samurai demonstrates wisdom.....

[@VikingSamurai]

You've played the hand you were dealt as good as anyone could've played the hand they were dealt Don, true legend in the world of martial arts!

[@antoniocapulera]

Be so cool to see Don in a 90’s style, “Expendables” like movie with all the 80’s and 90’s martial arts guys! Viking, you should be in it too! Master Frank Dux should write it! 🇺🇸🙌🏻

[@melanodawido]

in my opinion, the ring, or cage for that matter inst the ultimate proving ground for the term real fighter I like to call them Prizefighters because that's what they are now that doesn't mean that there inst guys out there that are absolute killers these guys don't look to win they look to hurt you permanently I know some of them and they would hang with the best the ufc or boxing has to offer but they simply don't care for fame are they fighter? hell yes I mean we can all throw down we just don't get paid to do it

[@dragondon]

@@melanodawido Street Fighters are like Backyard Basketball Players. Do you think a Street Basketball Player can compete with Michael Jordan or any other Top Pro? Street fighters are very easy to subdue for a Pro Kickboxer, MMA competitor, wrestler or Pro boxer. After working in a nightclub for several years as a Doorman-Bouncer, I fought up to 3 men at once and they ended up running to their car and escaping! I had 2 guns pointed at me and several knives. I admit that did make things dangerous for me but the hand to hand....no problem.

[@GothamKnight84661]

Well said, Don. I knew there was a reason why i am and still a fan of yours.

[@jackslater5886]

I never understood why MJW talks as if he's a pro MMA fighter.

[@bradmiles1984]

He's gotten to friendly with a bunch of pros and they probably treat him like one of their own to be nice but it's inflated his ego.

[@dustinbone4942]

Hes a clown!! Talking down to people who are not around to answer. What if Jackie chan slapped this dude around!?! Also let's be honest here, did anyone seriously know who the hell he was before spawn or blood and bone? Blood and bone low budget and spawn old as balls!! Hes an actor too!! He must of forgot that!!

[@EchoEcho-q4r]

He smokes crack

[@massdagod]

I lived in Hong Kong for 3 years and people from Hong Kong can’t understand why Americans are so Infatuated with Bruce Lee, overhyping his existence. They laugh at us and compared it to Germans obsession with David Hasselhoff. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@gooseman1011]

He talks about it because he is a martial artist, he just didn't decide to go pro...I'm into football, I played semi pro, I don't have to play professional football to understand the sport.

[@Haerinx87]

Van Damme has a verified professional full contact record 18-1 (avenged that loss in a rematch) and amateur record of 44-4. Van Damme trained in martial arts (Shotokan Karate and Kickboxing) since he was a child. That definitely makes him a "real fighter"

[@bkamara1]

He hasn't got a verified kickboxing record

[@UltimateAPBTS]

I do not know why people listen to this guy. He actually is the non-fighter lol. The guy does not know what he is talking about. ..👍👊😎 #STUDENTOFBOXING

[@axelstone3131]

@@bkamara1 yes he does. All a “fighter” means is you compete anyway.

[@davidhughes6741]

In Europe, “Kickboxing” is a blanket term that encompasses virtually all versions of stand up striking systems. JCVD doesn’t have a background in full contact and what is known in America as kickboxing. This has been explored and even determined on this channel.

[@bkamara1]

@@axelstone3131 please send me proof of this record.......I've seen pictures of him competing in point karate but not seen any proof of him kickboxing. Interesting he is from the era of Benny the Jet , Don Wilson, Peter sugarfoot etc who have tons of concrete proof they competed in kickboxi ng but no evidence of him in an actual kickboxing match other than anecdotes from unreliable sources.

[@djoneforever]

Well....when Bruce was around, no one said anything, But now that Bruce is gone, everyone think they can beat Bruce. C'mon, man .....

[@theforce5191]

"Everyone " who talks about besting Bruce didn't exist when Bruce was alive lol.

[@powerbadpowerbad]

All the black belts of Bruce's era either trained with him or wanted to train with him.

[@datadavis]

At least jackie was alive, and in his prime at the same time as bruce lee, and got horse kicked in the chest by him on set. Hes the only one who knows what hes talking about, lol

[@jamesthomas9791]

Exactly

[@gandalainsley6467]

@Hyrum Wood As a guy who has beat a guy who was much taller, heavier and physically stronger than me size doesn't really matter that much(it does help though) unless its a sport with rules. Bruce Lee legend is exaggerated(probably. I don't know , he was addicted to training to the point it killed him so maybe he could do all of those things) just like with Jackie chan.

[@davydeuce]

Bruce Lee literally for fun used to go around to dojos challenging black belts to fight him in full contact, no-holds-barred show of skill. And he whooped ass. Fighting his weight class in UFC Bruce would easily have been a title holder. Guy was dedication and class all the way to the bank.

[@lukajankovic99]

false

[@MrBeckenhimself]

No he didn't. Fictional story time is over. Time to grow up.

[@invisiblerevolution]

Who told you this?????

[@GrimReaper84]

No true folk tells to amp up his career

[@n.b.l.5709]

Stories lol u mean he went around talking smack and got called on it

[@mrgozz2780]

Bruce Lee is every Martial Artist favourite ...Martial Artist ...he was the best in his time ...and we should stop comparing him to other people ...just let the Legacy live on ...and keep him remembered as the Pioneer of Martial Art Action Movies ...with out him ...we wouldn't have so many great Martial Art Actors

[@bradmiles1984]

💯

[@SkemeKOS]

Well said.

[@revenantronin8377]

Why... do you... type like... this... ?

[@mrgozz2780]

@@revenantronin8377 ? ....

[@revenantronin8377]

@@mrgozz2780 🤷‍♂️.....

[@isaelmahdi6593]

Michael Jai White is in the same category as Jean Claude Van Damme. They both were tournament martial artists turned Hollywood actors

[@max7even284]

Jean Claude is an international action star and an icon. His movies used to open up on big screens all across continents . MjW has always been Mr straight to DVD .lol

[@Katzenhase]

Jai White only fought as a teenager and it was point fighting. Point fighting has nothing to do with real fighting. I watched some clips at the time and I had to laugh about those fights.

[@fcrossface7875]

@@Katzenhase BEST COMMENT...VERY TRUE..UNFORTUNATETL, THESE FELLOWS AND FEMALES RECENTLY, LIVE IN A BS WORLD BELEIVING THEIR OWN HYPE..AT LEAST RIDDIK BOWE TRIED OUT FOR THE MARINES ABD LEFT BECAUSE IT WAS TOO DIFFICUKT,,,NO SIMILARITY WITH BEING IN THE RING BUT HE HAD THE GUTS TO TRY..MJW, THE UNDER TAKER, MARK CALLOUS, TALK A GOOD GAME BUT THEY NECER TRIED TOUGH MAN CONTESTS..BATISTA, WHAT A LAUGH!..HE HAD SOME FAT LOSER TO FIGHT AND DB IS NOT A FIGHTER, JUST A FORMER BOUNCER WITH BULLSHIT PERFORMANCE WRESTLING

[@eligarza2435]

Michael wishes he was in that category

[@bradmiles1984]

@snowwhitever2336 I think Vlad sets him up with the questions knowing it will be an out there answer so it will get views. Also he could also be telling MJW to make these kind of answers for clicks.

[@ruiseartalcorn]

Great stuff! I agree 100% I have been training for 57 years, so I am definitely a martial artist, however I am NOT a "fighter". I train for fitness, self defense and overall wellbeing. Thanks for a great video :)

[@TheHailstorm77]

You’re wrong. You are a martial artist. Martial artist is not about fighting. It’s about spiritual awareness.

[@ImNotThatGoodAtGames]

@@TheHailstorm77you just said martial artist aren’t about fighting and he said he’s not a fighter….

[@soramirez5473]

can you fight?

[@soramirez5473]

tournament fighters are REAL fighters?

[@soramirez5473]

does the training you have learned, help you kick another persons ass? does it give you the ability to hurt another person more effectively than an individual who hasnt learned such techniques.?

[@smoothe4216]

Thanks!

[@VikingSamurai]

Thanks so much for the support Solomon!

[@Markbell73]

I would bet money, that Bruce Lee has had more life on the line street fights, than Michael Jai White has had tournament fights.

[@hectorbartlett567]

Bruce Lee, was an absolute legit baddass. Every World Champion/martial arts master from the 60's and 70's confirmed Bruce was on another level to ALL OF US. Meaning we could not compete or spar with him. You don't eat, shit and breath and train martial arts like Bruce Lee, even it's philosophy ... unless you were the absolute best!

[@donaldbuffet1208]

Yeah right I got my money on white if they fight

[@kap2276]

@@donaldbuffet1208 That would never ever happen. Bruce Lee has been dead since 1973..MJW was 5 at the time..

[@invisiblerevolution]

Luv... Bruce! But.... PLEASE!!!!!!!

[@donaldbuffet1208]

@@kap2276 Don’t matter

[@deanwilliams433]

To add another thought. Michael Jai White reminds me of those military experts that know a lot about the military and how it operates but they never served. So they get older and regret they never participated in something they have so much passion about.

[@aquaticlibrary]

Damn that’s spot on

[@fcrossface7875]

;IKE JOHN WAYNE

[@cliffordhill2365]

What a " POWERFUL STATEMENT " Dr. Phil couldn't have said things any better.

[@christophertaylor5441]

Yes, and he will tell ya. He just pats his own back way too much for me...

[@csd8204]

Where's the regret?

[@GothamKnight84661]

I like Michael Jai White but i don't agree with everything he says. Funny how he talks about JCVD or Seagal not being fighters in the ring but he say's Jackie Chan can beat Bruce Lee??? No, that make's no sense at all for him to say that.

[@dennisrhoades2467]

Van dam really has fights under his belt look at his life story yes he did 🩰 but he has an impressive fight record fact's

[@GothamKnight84661]

@@dennisrhoades2467 Exactly, nobody cannot take that away from Jean-Claude.

[@maexpert11]

I like MJW but I have to agree this is a line to draw with him he is doing essentially the same thing Bruce Lee did hanging out and training with professional fighters sparring with them teaching them and learning from them and he wasn't a fighter atleast not competitive same with MJW same with Steven Seagal teacher to the stars and visited with professional fighters and trained with them for a time but not being a fighter themselves

[@gbosnjak62]

Wite talk bulshit that is it

[@lemuelhenry837]

I think Michael Jai White is a great person but he ego is getting way too big at it gets on my nerves you cannot say who's not a fighter when you're not a fighter yourself

[@aquaticlibrary]

I think he means to say not a Professional fighter. In that sense they’re not real fighters, but he usually excludes himself from these conversations as if he’s a real fighter. He’s just as much a fighter as anybody else. You hit the nail on the head with that. The problem is a lot of Martial Arts actors have their egos unchecked because they don’t fight.

[@varanid9]

That's probably true, but you have to look at it from another perspective: Back in the day, Bruce Lee, Chuck Norris, Steven Seagal, all made their paychecks based off of their reputations as bad-asses. If Lee had entered a ring and lost a fight, his career would have been over. Once Norris became a movie star, he stopped competing for a reason, the same reason that kept Seagal and Van Damme out of any ring. Dolph Lundgren is the only one who engaged in any public fights after he became famous.

[@cuzz63]

@@varanid9 there is alot of truth to your post. The difference is Bruce didnt compete even before his career took off.

[@Bartron_Flat_Earth]

@cuzz63 lol There was no Kickboxing or MMA in the 60s Joe Lewis called Bruce the father of Full Contact

[@gandalainsley6467]

@@cuzz63 He supposedly was involved with the gangs and there was some kind of gang incident where gang members left his family alone after it because they were scared of Bruce. There was never an explanation what exactly happened but from the way he fought(not in movies) he knew what he was doing and had actual experience in fighting because you wouldn't know the things he knows if you had never fought anybody for real. Like that asshole kick that Bruce had in his book which sounds stupid will make your legs will give out.

[@Battle_One]

MJW has also admitted that he's not a fighter either.

[@ryanscott9625]

This conversation more than likely wouldn't happen if Bruce was still alive

[@FirstLast-sy3rj]

MJW may be arrogant and at times douchey, but he definitely would have destroyed Bruce Lee.

[@americanosbadassius9292]

Bruce likely would have been too old to be competitive by the time the first MMA match in the UFC was held in 1993, at 52 yrs old, but MJW is near that now and he might be able to competitive ... too bad we'll never know, but I'd never rule anything out.

[@Magneticlaw]

Easy enough to attack someone when they aren't around to defend themselves

[@life107familyfitnessboxing8]

LOL

[@488ferc4]

Love love love this video. You get it. People forget Bruce Lee was in the 60s and 70s and did things decades before his time. If he was alive today, we no doubt know he would train with the best of every art. Seagal is high level aikido and of course has aspects of things to offer both machida/Silva who are not just extraordinary fighters but martial artists and human beings. Van damme offered knowledge to many fighters for his kicks as well.

[@tazbehdjet7972]

Seagal also well versed in judo and karate and kendo he has black belts in all of them which he mixed with his aikido why his style street wise effective

[@slimjim7687]

When I was 27 i started Taekwondo 3yrs later i had a bike accident and was told by the doctors i would never be able to do it again, forward 12yrs i went back and got my first degree black belt in 2018 now im training in karate and just graded blue belt and never felt better at 50yrs old.

[@ninjanix7288]

Good for you that’s awesome. I came back at 43 yo and absolutely love it🙏🏻🥷🏻

[@fcrossface7875]

U R VULNERABLE FOR NO LEARNING ANY GRAPPLING..U WOULD BE DEFEATED RAPIDILY

[@seansimms8503]

@@fcrossface7875 you wouldnt believe me if I said the mind can overcome the physical, most of us can't achieve this connection but if anyone can, someone versed in Asian Martial Arts heavily influenced by Buddhism or Hinduism.

[@justinhunt4767]

Incredible

[@iveheardenuff3752]

Salute 👊🏿

[@MatrixCobretti]

When he started disrespecting Van Damme, that's when he lost me as a fan forever. It's just so ungrateful and dishonorable. He had previously stated that he'd never say an unkind word about JCVD because JCVD had been so good to him when he was an extra on Universal Soldier. Then he turns around and stabs Van Damme in the back. I didn't understand what Steven Seagal meant when he said that MJW wasn't a tough guy or a martial artist, but I understand now. He's got no honor, no respect, and no loyalty. That's not a tough guy or a real martial artist in my book either.

[@brazyfilmo3121]

Can damme was a kickboxer this dude mjw tripping.

[@cliffishot2def]

Yet you still love Steven Seagal right?

[@Katzenhase]

Seagal will never respect van Damme neither as a martial artist nor as a human being. Seagal hates the guy. It has to do something with their past. Probably Seagal didn´t like competition at the time. If Viking Samurai would have been into movies at the time, Seagal would also have badmouthed him. That´s Seagal style, he did it on purpose. Being nice to the competition was not in Seagal´s nature but he always showed respect toward Arnold and Sly but there were both no martial artists, that´s the difference!!!

[@fcrossface7875]

@@Katzenhase YOUR OPINION...MJW, FELL FOR THE HOLLYWOOD BS AND HE NOW IS NO BETTER THAN SOMEONE WITH MINIMAL SKILL...HE NEVER DI ANY TOUGH MAN CONTESTS LIKE TOMMY MORRISON WHO WOULD OF HANDED HIM HIS ASS!..MJW IS A BS POINT FIGHTER...HE HAS NO RT TO BE SPEAKING AS AN AUTHORITY

[@TheJoker-jk4dp]

@@Katzenhase That’s because Fatty Seagal is a Van Damme hater and was obviously very jealous at the time when Van Damme was big. Like you said he was competition.

[@antonioridah172]

One thing I truly respect about Bruce Lee he said don't try to be like him learning jeet kune do but become the best version of yourself self knowledge. That who can beat who is a sports combat state of mind not pure martial arts because martial arts is not just fighting its away of life 💯

[@Bartron_Flat_Earth]

Bruce had more fights than this clown

[@pizzo1427]

Bruce was a real fighter and a real martial artist who had legit street fights, a boxing match which is on record, challenged by Wong jack man who confirmed they fought, challenged on set of his movies, all confirmed by people who were alive at the time he was. And if he didn't pass away at a young age, 50 years ago I'm sure he would of been challenged by a lot more people. including the gracies who weren't in the states yet, and by the time the did come to the states and start there dojo storming Bruce would of been in his 40s, And probably would of perfected his art. But we will never know how things would of played out. how ever he was not a prize fighter. MJW learnt someone else's martial art, Bruce Lee invented his own so he's more of a fighter than MJW.

[@Grodimusprime]

What I loved about Bruce Lee is this that man challenged all those who doubted him and won every fight it’s all recorded Bruce Lee is the pioneer and the king of the iron fist without Bruce Lee mixed martial arts would never be here

[@adamfisher53]

what's funny is he is very much like Seagal in that they both seem to have a hard time giving respect to other action movie stars for having real fighting talent while they themselves have never fought professionally.

[@crisalcantara7671]

You ain't lying , it's like they're saying controversial sht to keep being relevant

[@GLASSGHOSTHUNTERS]

I guess he'd have to define "fighter". If he's saying that unless you do some form of sport fighting, you're not a fighter, then he's discrediting entire lineages dating back centuries who fought to stay alive. Now if he's saying you're not a fighter unless you've fought in a street fight, then he's discrediting ring fighters. Jackie Chan never competed, but in several books I have about him, he's been attacked by people simply for being Jackie. He defended himself successfully each time. Bruce Lee's challenge fights, including one that happened in a YMCA are documented as well as his boxing match with a fighter in Hong Kong. Steven Seagal was not a competitive fighter, but even his ex wife mentions fights with drunk men that barged into their Dojo in Japan to fight him. Van Damme certainly had fights, both outside a ring as well as in tournaments. My brother never once competed in a tournament in all our years of training together, but in one street fight he seriously injured someone by side kicking him into a wall and splitting the back of the guy's head open. For myself, I haven't been in a street fight in ages, but I still compete in tournaments every year, including sparring. So are the aforementioned film stars fighters? YES! They are martial artist's, film fighters and real fighters. Fought in a sport fight? You're a fighter. Fought in a street fight? You're a fighter. Train to fight in your dojo, dojang, kwoon or studio by sparring and working with strategy? You're a fighter. And you're 100% correct in your rant about people making everything about race, gender and sexuality and completely remove any meaning to the words by tossing "ism" and "phobic" terms around willy nilly. If a film sucks, it sucks.

[@thebodybeatdownDiTi]

you are 100% on with all this..

[@timkittle5418]

Ditto.

[@theforce5191]

I'd have to somewhat agree with you. I train in boxing and bjj. I'm not into competing, I just want to learn so if I have to fight in the street, I won't be afraid. But I don't consider myself a fighter. My definition of a fighter is someone who actively fights. So segal isn't a fighter, even if he's been in confrontations before. He's not actively fighting. Bruce wasn't a fighter, he was in some sparring matches and idk what else but he's not actively competing. Chuck Norris was a fighter for sure. He competed back in his day. That's just my 2 cents.

[@cuzz63]

. The single boxing match in High School was confirmed. Also the Wong Jack Man fight was confirmed. The fight in the YMCA was not documented or confirmed

[@Bartron_Flat_Earth]

@The Force Bruce had many "Gracie challenge" type of fights. There was no Kickboxing or MMA in the 60s Norris was a point fighter, Bruce didn't consider him a fighter Joe Lewis said Bruce was the father of Full Contact

[@turboterminator7]

Van Damme had a kick boxing record he's a fighter 💪 hope you had a good Christmas VS

[@jamesfarrington9030]

One guy who never gets mentioned, who was a shotokan BB, and amateur boxer is Robert Conrad. The stuff he did on The Wild Wild West in the mid 1960s was amazing. Quite a bit of it still holds up today. The man could move. RIP Robert Conrad.

[@TheHailstorm77]

Nah. Saw his fighting moves and he is nowhere fast.

[@stevenmasson4220]

Most people forget there were many tough guy actors in the 60s/70s..who were more than just actors. William Smith, Rod Taylor etc.. were Not guys you could take lightly. Smith had boxing, wresting, body building & arm wrestling acomplishments which he held records for & was widely known as a Hollywood Tough guy. (Remember somewhere even rumours? Bruce Lee didnt want him in a movie.. as he was too big!)

[@TheHailstorm77]

@@stevenmasson4220 eh you’re wrong and putting false conspiracy. Jessie Glover former heavyweight pro boxer champion at over 200lbs massive muscle and tall like Joe Lewis could not touch Bruce. Get your facts straight. Bruce always wanted big guys in his movies. BO LO YEUNG is huge. Joe Lewis is very tall and was big muscle. Bob Wall was tall and big too in Enter the Dragon. His Karate Gi just covers his muscle.

[@antimediaman9354]

Really? I'm gonna try and find some stuff to look at.

[@FlipArt57]

It's about time someone mentioned him. Many (including myself) were addicted to him. Family and friends were in front of the TV waiting to see his "cool ass" moves. I think he was the first fighting attraction. Oppose to John Wayne and Batman. But I gotta admit it was The Green Hornet that got me to forget about (RIP) Robert Conrad.

[@dannyoneil6889]

Even chuck norris said Bruce Lee was good and he would've made a name for himself if he competed in martial arts tournaments

[@SFNDMK]

Let me add when Joe Lewis praises Bruce's ability (and I have to stress that these two had a falling out before Bruce died) then you just know Bruce was the real deal

[@bruhmoment3731]

Chuck wrote Bruce Lee a letter where he said it was a privilege learning from Bruce and that Bruce was proficient in all martial arts. The letter was discovered a few years ago.

[@FirstLast-sy3rj]

martial arts tournaments are for people who want to pretend they can fight

[@watching789]

It'd crazy how many fighters in Bruce day said he was a amazing fighter

[@iluvcliffrichard]

Bob Wall said bruce was a great fighter, in response to people fixated on the word fighter who use the word as a weapon to diminish or downplay. Like your jealous lee can kick your arse, so in response you say he wasnt a fighter?

[@tonysoto8949]

@@iluvcliffrichard Jim Kelly and Joe Louis also have stated he was a great fighter and Joe Louis stated that even at his size he hit like a heavyweight. Spawn is salty because his career hasn’t put him in the publics eyes on the same level as Bruce Lee, Van Damme, etc. as the honorable Mike Tyson has stated, everybody has a plan in the ring until they get touched. Spawn talking about Tyson like he can work him in the Ring, well atleast I know what would happen to spawn and it’s not a pretty site for Dolomite.

[@n.b.l.5709]

Cuz they were cool w em

[@B4NKST4Z]

Problem is, who decide the definition of a fighter. Dude whit no martial arts background at all but the fight every day in a Backyard somewere- is he a fighter? Dude who trains Martial arts everyday,but didn't have a real fight- is he a fighter?

[@iluvcliffrichard]

The fact is if your a pro fighter, with 1 win and 90 losses you can be called a fighter still, so if your the GOAT martial artist you clearly can be a fighter considering you can beat just about anyone. Do you really think anyone is going to think bruce wasn't a great fighter, or anyone is going to feel guilty thinking bruce was a great fighter?

[@FilmolovacDule]

It hard to take a lot of MJW statements seriously, especially when we know about Lee’s, Van Damme’s and Seagal’s background, but it’s entertaining to watch him. And absolutely, movies should be rated on their quality and not on their political statements.

[@HanifKhan-ic3ey]

I like this guy humble and seems nice keep the videos coming bro love from the uk

[@americanosbadassius9292]

This is why I love your channel, you actually put out content that addresses many thoughts that the rest of us are having about all these guys, their history and why they're saying they believe what they do.

[@linherong]

When Bruce Lee was around, everyone was still walking in diapers...

[@life107familyfitnessboxing8]

LOL I was age 8

[@Katzenhase]

The guy is out of his mind. In a recent interview conducted by Vlad he said that Seagal was nervous doing the fight scene with him in "Exit Wounds" and that the director of the movie (Andrzej Bartkowiak) and the producer (none other than Joel Silver) told him to hurt Seagal for real. Who is going to believe that nonsense?

[@bradmiles1984]

Yeah seems weird. I could believe it if the stunt guys were saying it. Seagal is infamous for wailing on the stunt guys and pitching a fit as if they as much as tap him back. Many stories out there of him getting people blacklisted in the industry.

[@e-money225]

He’s not the only one that said it check the Isaiah Washington interview with vlad he says the same thing and backs up MJWs story

[@Katzenhase]

@@e-money225 No, he didn´t. Washingtom said that Michael Jai White "wanted him bad". Michael replied that it´s not true because he´s no bully.

[@leesamardzija9165]

How is Michael Jai White any more of a fighter than any of the other movie guys he mentions?

[@meaty220]

He's not. He sees himself on the same level as top-tier UFC fighters or boxers. He tried "coaching" Kimbo Slice on a movie set once. While Kimbo didn't have a very diverse skill set, he would've made short work of MJW simply because Kimbo has a lot of full-contact experience whereas MJW has none.

[@Tourist-Q]

@@meaty220 experience at being awful

[@powerbadpowerbad]

@@meaty220 Yes,he does see himself on UFC fighters level.He's not.He always makes excuses about competing in the UFC ( he could've competed in the UFC when he was younger )I think they would've knocked his behind out. LOL.

[@hugejackedman3447]

@@powerbadpowerbad Well when he was younger he was already focused on movies. UFC (in the 90s) was still in it's infancy and he already had a few (not very popular) movies under his belt by then. He was already making more money than those early UFC fighters and even now makes more money. In fact people are complaining about fighter pay being low so it would make sense to take an ass beating for less money! lol That said he has said several times he respects real fighters and doesn't claim to be one of them BUT he's not gonna be the type of person that says "I'll get my ass kicked by them" not because he can beat them but because he's not gonna discount himself whether it's true or not.

[@powerbadpowerbad]

@@hugejackedman3447 One thing about pro fighters you can train with them all want,they won't respect you unless you're an actual fighter or were once one.

[@tokujinsicura2190]

Neil deGrasse Tyson did an interview, where he brought up a similar sentiment. Basically, he said that he doesn't want to be thought of as a good, black physicist. He wants to be thought of as a good physicist. That spoke to me.

[@antimediaman9354]

Neil said that when he was young and saw his own father become a vicim of racism. His father told him that they didn't know any better because they were ignorant and uneducated. His father saw things with a scientific mind and instilled that in Neil and that's the way Neil sees things in such a logical way.

[@hughlamb1033]

If Micheal j white was a bar of chocolate,he would eat himself. Bruce Lee took the world by storm, and single handedly put martial arts on the map to a far higher level. I know Bruce was human, but he lived and breathed the martial arts,he wasn't there to win some bloody medal,he was training for a life or death situation. ( Including biting,or eye gouging.) Most of the top level martial artist of the day went to Bruce,to improve,and get better. That alone speaks volumes. So mjw,it's easy to talk about someone when they are no longer here, but why don't you give Bruce Lee the respect he deserves.i say this as a Bruce Lee fan,with all due respect to the other fighters that mjw is slagging off.Well done viking.yet again ,another great debate. All the best from Bonnie Scotland.

[@ProgSnob14]

JCVD has real fight experience, most of these guys have more real world experience than Jai White. You're spot on about all the race baiting and victimizing that goes on in regards to what should be seen as objective criticism.

[@Motorsportsinjapan]

Bruce Lee was the Hong Kong school boys boxing champion, but that doesn't count right Michael?JCVD has an established record in Europe, but that doesn't count right Michael? Bruh he's been drinking too much of that Chuck Norris Kool aid. And pointing out the truth does NOT make one a hater. Great video as always man.

[@Motorsportsinjapan]

By the way, Zito attacked JCVD when JCVD was drunk as and sitting in a booth at a restaurant, it was well enough documented at the time. And he didn't 'beat the shit out of him' SMH . . .

[@laxer123]

@@Motorsportsinjapan jcvd s not a real marital artist or fighter I beat jcvd many times myself. he is a soft gay guy

[@vandamme6379]

@@laxer123 Your Mum & Dad are related.

[@Tatteredghost96]

Bruce even said professional fighting has rules hence why he didnt compete. His fighting n training method was for the streets. All those hong kong rooftop fights and challenges would make him able to be a fighter

[@mikesmobile30]

Thank you so much Man for telling it is what it is

[@TheRealShiruken]

I agree with most of your points in this video and I really like your perspective on the matter.

[@VikingSamurai]

Thank you!

[@ryulee458]

Bruce Lee was a fighter and perfected the form of fighting even today his style is still considered the best form

[@axelstone3131]

Haha.. here we go again. MJW just can’t help himself.

[@elskeletor3566]

Bruce Lee was a fighter according to friends and family.

[@David-vg8lx]

He was a singer 🎤

[@darrenjones1413]

He did a few things boxing was a dancer singer was he good at real fighting no idea was he my hero growing up hell ye was not my era I watched older movies of Bruce as a kid big boss enter dragon and jcvd movies like kickboxer no retreat bloodsport hard target cyborg is bit dated but the movie as a kid felt so cool

[@Basta11]

How many martial arts actors produced and directed their own films by age 32? Wrote books? Started their own martial arts schools? All while raising a family, facing racism, with English as a second language?

[@richardcurtis2688]

The thing about Bruce though is even though he didn't compete, he was a fighter. He devoted his life to it, studied it, created a system. He lived it. MJW wouldn't stand a chance against Bruce. Bruce would size him up, NEVER underestimate him and take him out. MJW thinks size is everything. Not always

[@randybarnett2308]

MJW would probably say a Grizzly Bear isn't a fighter , would love to see MJW vs a bear ( of any size ! )💪🐻

[@CharlesCCurry]

I agree that Bruce was a fighter and should not criticize Bruce, but saying white would not have a chance is stretching it bro.

[@shawnsmith2610]

Van Damn fought in point karate.Michael fought in point and full contact karate and Bruce fought in street fights every since he was a kid pretty much his whole life.Bruce was more of a fighter than any of them will ever be.

[@fernandodeleon7466]

And two real fights : against a Karate guy ... Almost killed. Against Wong Jack Man , Kung fu guy ... on the floor beggin for Lee not to break his face . Let's define " real fighter".

[@VantaClawz]

I have to disagree on JCVDs record vs MJWs. Might want to dig a little on that one, but yep, Bruce Lee created an entire combat philosophy through experimentation and pressure testing. Leaps and bounds ahead of the game. Even MMA is still catching up.

[@Sa-Shogunn]

Very well said... Bruce trained with elite fighters and champions of his time. MJW trains with great MMA fighters of his current time.

[@meaty220]

I'm an MJW fan but he needs to stop talking like he's an actual fighter. We'd all like to see some of his fights but no such footage exists. And his "sparring" with UFC guys is just light grabass. It undermines the work, training and sacrifice that REAL fighters put in.

[@fcrossface7875]

SAME AS TO WHEN JVD DID A DEMONSTRATION KICKING NEXT TO A FELLOWS TEMPLE WHAT BS. GRAB THAT LEG AND EITHER SMASH HIS GROIN OR SNAP HIS LEG

[@autobot622]

Actually there is footage

[@korbanwilliams423]

There is a ton of footage lol

[@Yazarastsu]

In my opinion if you love, practice, and study fighting you’re a fighter, despite your level of skill. The same applies to any discipline or activity.

[@SASS007]

Theirs a whole lot of knowledge and wisdom Video. I’m impressed at the honesty and integrity you displayed in honoring everyone you mentioned including MJW while questioning specific narratives. I think your commentary is kind, respectful and insightful! MUCH RESPECT As I am a Martial Arts Long time practitioner myself. I’m humbled by your position and positive attitude. Thanks for sharing and once again GOD BLEDS

[@Mad_Martigen]

But what about you, MJW? Have you ever walked inside a ring or octagon and fought professionally? No. You never did.

[@chermebrownsauce]

Im a fan of MJW, I respect him. But I look closely all those interviews and I think hes a lowkey hater, and tries do keep it down with those type of comments. Maybe hes not, but thats what I get from the videos. He put the guys down with weird reasons. Maybe because he doesnt think the guys are athletic like him, or big like him, or skill like him, or something like that. Its strange. All the guys make movies, for entertaining. Nobody there is on professional boxe, muai thai, mma, etc. Period! They trained with professionals, they are martial artists like them, but they are not fighters for living. Thats not me saying they cant fight if they wish or put their mind into it. They make movies and do 20 shots for a scene. They hit beautifully because thats what a movie should do, create the fantasy, and thats it people. MJW just need to put him in the same category, even if he thinks he is better than all of them. Hes not a fighter and hes a not a great actor too. Hes a cool guy, have a great charisma, make cool kick ass movies, have a great style, a inspiration for nutrition stuff. People watch his movies because of that, not because they on pay per view or because they want to see the next Oscar performance. He needs to calm down! Im not hating.

[@thebrownbaldy]

IMO just because someone isn't a "fighter" that doesn't mean they dont know how to take care of themselves. As stated in a previous video, the action stars of the 80s and 90s were believable because they lived that martial artist lifestyle as well.

[@mrsam0496]

Exactly... I would never mess with Donnie Yen, Jet Li or Jeff Speakman because they arent 'fighters'

[@thebrownbaldy]

@@mrsam0496 Big facts

[@billdoor3140]

If you thought Steven segal or Bruce Lee movies were believable something is badly wrong 🤣 they were about as believe as captain America fighting thanos 🤣. They were simply actors doing pre rehearsed routines against non resisting opponents.

[@OrdellRob]

I agree with you on the matter. MJW is a great martial artist and actor. It’s the hypocrisy of his statements about other actors “not being fighters” yet somehow he has similar qualifications and he sort of implies that he’s different.

[@RisingKing1024]

I'm Black, and I love Michael Jai but even I laugh at some of the things he says and I can't stand it. But I love him. He just acts like a know it all/fight guru and discredits others. I hate that.

[@robbynv9900]

When people say your a hater they really aren't listening. I agree 100% with what your saying, because when you feel you can beat someone in a fight you don't need to express it you just know it. So expressing it to Vlad tv constantly says to me and others you need to look inside yourself and be honest. You just might have doubts about your owne skills and possibly some hidden insecurities inside. I actually like MJW , but he seems to believe no one is a fighter in Hollywood but him.

[@spilledketchup]

"Pronouns: Martial Artist/Natural Bodybuilder" lmao, another great insightful video.

[@thebrownbaldy]

That was genius AF

[@paulgreen660]

Bruce lee was born in 1940 and not every fight in real life is filmed or on TV. I have never seen Michael Jai White fight for real but I have no doubt he could handle himself as could Bruce lee, Van Damme etc. I love your videos and keep up the great work.

[@Filthy_Larry]

I could beat up Michael.

[@RebbeYehoshuahLamberti]

No such thing as viking Asian he wish, Vikings were white skin pale and blue eyes northern Europeans....

[@trudownsouth8490]

Jai is a champion. Look him up.

[@florintanase9348]

THERE ARE VIDEOS ON KZbin OF MICHAEL FIGHTING IN kYOKSHIN TOURNAMENTS!!! (wich are full contact), there are none of JCVD or Bruce Lee, or Steven Segal...

[@wubear260]

Um people forget Bruce Lee was a street fighter as he lived in hong kong and was in fights on the rough streets.

[@paulpolpiboon9535]

That very last second w/Sienfeld; excellent point! Perfect

[@thcollect3544]

MJW is low key all talk and no bite. People only backs him up because of his presence or how he convince them that he's legit.💯

[@williamharp6943]

You don't have to fight professional to be a real fighter

[@FlipArt57]

That my friend, is something you and I understand.

[@TheRealShiruken]

I agree with this. If you consistently spar you are a fighter, which seems like something MJW has done. Now I don’t know how sparring has evolved but in my days it was full contact. Granted I was a fighter and not a movie star so a bit different scenario I guess.

[@adamwhite5720]

I was on the chunky side when I was 14. You nailed it bro, kids can be mean! I started exercising and dropped a bunch of weight by 17 and never looked back.

[@MatrixCobretti]

DJ Vlad is not Michael's friend. He's smarter than MJW is and he totally manipulates Michael into saying stupid things, but Michael is too stupid to realize it. I think Vlad has probably made MJW lose more fans than any of us realize. I know that it was a Vlad interview that was the last straw for me.

[@chrissabbath4551]

Agreed! I used to really like MJW years ago, but after some of these Vlad interviews, not so much anymore.

[@MatrixCobretti]

@@chrissabbath4551 Ironically enough, I was a massive fan myself. These days it's hard to remember when he was likeable.

[@antonioridah172]

Bingo 💯

[@pridemutiti8513]

A person like Bruce Lee who could assimilate different fighting styles and come up with his very own unique blend is obviously not some one that MJW can even come close to

[@MatrixCobretti]

@@pridemutiti8513 Not even on his best day.

[@westyraviz]

I think that Bruce Lee was a fighter and not a competitive martial artist. I once wanted to attend a martial arts school, and the owner refused me because he said I seemed interested in competitive martial arts, which wasn’t what he taught. He taught lethal self-defense techniques, which hopefully would never come in handy, but which you’d have if ever heaven forbid the occasion called for it. They didn’t do sports competitions and awards, they just trained, and trained, and trained. And the training was rigorous and intense and the student fighters would occasionally get hurt during training. But I guarantee you, if most of those students ever got into a real life situation, they could easily kill their adversary if they wanted. It’s absurd to think that Bruce Lee didn’t possess the means to quickly kill an opponent if he really wanted to. Michael Jai White needs to be way more humble and respectful.

[@ToshiroMifuneSamurai]

Just discovered your channel. You make very good points here without disrespecting any of the actors/martial artists. Keep up the great work!

[@johanneethling8659]

Bruce Lee was a real fighter he had real fights

[@MrBeckenhimself]

No he wasn't and no he didn't.

[@j_quan2594]

Name one

[@thinktankindi2664]

He was a bad dude...but not a combat fighter. I would of loved to see him in real fights.

[@jango67]

@@j_quan2594 boxing match with Gary Elms , after Bruce had knocked Gary down several times Bruce was declared the winner .

[@j_quan2594]

@@jango67 I mean actually footage, not just word of mouth

[@attiylanen]

What? If you're not a fighter yourself, you cannot call others "not fighters"? What sort of logic is behind this?

[@SkemeKOS]

Of course you can lol Your logic is flawed.

[@themango6140]

MJW is a legendary fighter in his own head .

[@UltimateAPBTS]

Facts...👍👊😎 #MJW🤡🤡🤡

[@blackolantern5666]

@The Mango. I know. Just like me.... I'm a 5'8 skinny dude. But in my HEAD.... I'm a 6ft plus Alpha male VIKING warrior! 😆😆

[@Katzenhase]

and a legend in his own mind.

[@danielteixeira309]

@@blackolantern5666 5'7 welcome to the manlet club

[@andreneto7898]

only a narcissist who is out of touch with reality would say he could fight mike tyson

[@crazybabytvworld]

MJW is a real street dude. Street fighter. I grew up with him same hood. Dude is a beast. Really turned his life around . Back in the day he would literally kill a mofo. Don't let the movie persona fool you.

[@RioGrande-eq2vz]

I'm a minority and I completely agree with everything you have said so far and I have not looked at many of your videos but I am subscribed to you and I think you're pretty awesome and I like the content that you put out.

[@strikingmachine2975]

MJW has a high level of martial arts/ fitness knowledge and skill. But when he says things like "the first buddhist monks were B lack A fricans" no one is allowed to question such random ideas?

[@Liquidcadmus]

he said that?? so he's an afrocentrist m0r0n. He's lost any and all respect from me. next up he'll say that Leonardo da vinci and mozart were black.

[@kennylopezjeetkunedo5555]

Hey Viking, i'm surprised you never did a video on Tony Jaa yet who I feel deserves some kind of respect his name as well. Tony Jaa is the most underrated out of them all and I feel he's one of the most skilled and gifted martial arts practitioners that I would put my money on against a lot of guys!! He has a pretty big extensive background in the martial arts and adapted a lot of techniques from other arts with his Muay Boran training.

[@Master-pb8lu]

Bruce Lee fought every challenger while MJW was challenged and backed down but Bruce is not a fighter?

[@Bartron_Flat_Earth]

lol True story, you mean Mike Perry challenge? somebody else challenge him?

[@Master-pb8lu]

@@Bartron_Flat_Earth Yes Mike Perry lol

[@bernardwade8096]

I'm confused Bruce Lee won a boxing tournament when he was a teenager so

[@xombi213]

You can easily look up JCVD kickboxing record. Muscles of Brussles baby.

[@MarkwingDuck83]

Great video, I completely agree, everyone who chooses to do martial arts tends to want to become a great fighter and I’d never underestimate a single one, they’re all good fighters in their own way, I’d never discount any type of martial arts really

[@1_Bad_Z]

In the late 80's while in middle school, all my friends and I thought Bo Jackson was Super Hero like and in many ways he was. He was an Icon.

[@peteben9635]

Love your videos Samurai! Looking forward to what 2023 brings for the viking samurai channel and I wish you all the best for the new year. Also would love to see a video on your martial arts journey

[@WallKenshiro]

the immense respect I have for MJW, and everything he's achieved, makes me give him the benefit of the doubt that I believe he honestly doesn't know enough about Van Damme to claim he isn't, or at least wasn't once, a "fighter". With Bruce Lee I'll put it down to Michael not believing practically everything every martial artist, including former champions, that knew Bruce Lee ever said about him. Concering Seagal the jury will always be out concerning that guy.

[@rustenjohnson8050]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣....Michael Jai is a hater. The Jackie Chan comment says it all. You're exactly right.

[@iluvcliffrichard]

Of course MJW is a hater. I'm a shy man and probably wouldn't say it to mjws face. But it's clear MJW is a envious guy.

[@streetfightingman4240]

I think you're a winner. I admire your focus and dedication to your physique. Your channel alone is a huge win and you're honest

[@XpBZones]

Viking Samurai coming with the facts 💯%

[@chanceterry5178]

I like MJW in many ways. I respect him as a martial artist and the things he’s accomplished, but the ego in his statements are very distasteful. He’s knocking other martial artist just to try and elevate himself. It’s very unfortunate. Thanks for another great video!

[@seanbarker9272]

The subtle trolling of Michael jai white is what I love from this channel

[@TheRealest127]

MJW is a Great Martial Artist………………..Without the HUMILITY. 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@sq9006]

Dude! This is coming from the guy saying “Seagal, Van Damme and Lee aren’t real fighters!” They’re bigger action stars than you’ll ever be! People today still talk about these legends! Great video once again Viking Samurai!

[@shadowdancer5330]

The best movie he was in was undisputed 2 and no one even brings it up anymore. Hell just the other day I watched Lion heart and that movie never gets old

[@rnkmode1876]

Exactly. Because Michael Jai White's biggest movie where he is the main star is what??. Lol I can't even think of a movie meanwhile Seagal & Van Damme were the Biggest Martial Arts actors hands down in the late 80's and 90's.

[@theforce5191]

Doesn't matter how much better they will be compared to mjw. The point is that some of the names he mentioned, such as segal and Bruce aren't real fighters because they don't even hold any records in fighting like JCVD and chuck Norris. Or actively fight in the street back in their day.

[@Bartron_Flat_Earth]

@The Force Chuck was a point fighter There was no Kickboxing or MMA in the 60s for Bruce, Joe Lewis said Bruce was the father of Full Contact. He had many challenge fights according to his students and friends

[@theforce5191]

@Bartron Flat Earth Bruce was heavily into wing Chun. Which is a limited art. That's why Bruce made his own style. Chuck taught Bruce high kicks that should tell you how limited Bruce was. Anyway, idk if Bruce fought a bunch of people back in his day. So I guess he was an active fighter, idk.

[@paulpolpiboon9535]

Thankfully, Lee was able to sneak in a few movies starting at the very last 1.5 year of his life. Prior to that...there are zero movies, he was simply a veteran at live combat. In live situations he had fought; Black Belts, Pro Fighters, Ex military, Champions, 3rd degree Masters, Rival Martial Artists, and opponents that outweighed him by 100 pounds. His battle experience started as a young boy and lead all through out his teens + adulthoodhood. The few movies he DID make were only at the last 1.5 years of his life which was a brief opportunity for him to report his life experiences and give that insight into live combat. He only made 3 little movies plus One Hollywood film, a very short attempt at films but we're lucky he at least made them and snuck them right in JUST before he died to show us his insights on his personal life of hard combat. Lee is ranked by Sports Illustrated in the 50 Greatest Athletes of All Time, with near super human strength that could raise unbelievable weights that Pro Weight Lifters could not. mjw has never competed in any professional combat sport, he is just an actor and has been in MORE movies than Bruce Lee.

[@jazzmonk5670]

I hate on Viking Samurai because he action movie collection is deeper than mine! 🤪

[@neotenylv09]

Honestly I don't care about what MJW says, Van Damme, Seagal,etc. They know how to fight, they know martial arts and by extension they can handle in a fight better than most people. Sure, they are actors but that doesn't mean that anyone can just beat the heck out of them, that's just silly. As for the haters, not everybody has to step in the ring/cage so ought to "prove" they are the real deal, that mentality in my opinion is a bit childish and just shows a lot of insecurity, I don't feel the need to "prove" in order to be "approved", I know what I'm capable of and what I'm not capable of.

[@meaty220]

Seagal couldn't fight his way out of a paper bag. Aikido has been proven not to work. It only works on a totally compliant person....not exactly useful in the real world.

[@bradmiles1984]

Well I'd say Van Damme likely would fare better against someone then Seagal just because Seagal in the last couple decades has let himself go so badly. At this point he just has his big size but it's not an athletic size meanwhile Van Damme if you look at him in the kickboxer reboots he's still spry and can do fight scenes that don't look ridiculous.

[@thewillverine8989]

Thank you for posting this bro I hope it helps some of these uneducated folks see things in a more clear perspective and remember the difference between a martial arts actor and a fighter. Athletically speaking Mike is bad ass he does a lot of flashy stuff for the cameras and it’s great Entertainment but I’ll go back to your last video and still defend Bruce Lee winning in a fight against Mike in the context of both in physical prime which I believe if Bruce Lee was able to live longer he would’ve accomplished a lot more I mean just look at with Jackie Chan was doing in his 40s and 50s, which was amazing so to say that Bruce Lee couldn’t have beat Mike in a fight is just being arrogant and simply based off of what he does on trick photography cameras.

[@rockmanx6857]

He is just jealous that his status never came nowhere near the rest of them. Always quick to piss on the next guy's success.

[@nunyab666]

I’ve never seen MJW admit that anyone is on his level as a fighter or martial artist when the fact of the matter is he isn’t fit to sniff the jockstraps of these MMA guys… he would get destroyed.

[@TheAnomaly01010]

It’s literally all DjVlad knowing that Jai is guna probably say the wrong thing by accident. Vlad is a thirsty bastard, but Jai also doesn’t know when to shut up it seems. 😅

[@imdeep5839]

I would believe jim Kelly who Said That "Bruce was untouchable you can be middle weight, light weight or heavy weight doesn't matter to him, he was untouchable."

[@n.b.l.5709]

Ali woukdve bhsted him up please

[@imdeep5839]

@@n.b.l.5709 no, he was fast even for Ali & also Ali has style, which according to Ali himself ,a person who don't has a style can beat Ali.

[@n.b.l.5709]

@@imdeep5839 lol non fighting non master cha cha champ actor bruce lee wouldve beat ali? Hahahaha

[@imdeep5839]

@@n.b.l.5709 yes blacky! He would.

[@n.b.l.5709]

@@imdeep5839 no. Lol cha cha champ wbo died after sex with an asian actress could take ali ? Hahahahaha thats funny

[@danteex9677]

Great video man.. Too bad michael becomes a victim o vlad for views. I dont believe hes a bad guy. But man.. Some of the things he said.. He can take on the expendables?! Sorry but Dolph is too much for him even today! Keep up the good work Viking!

[@TheMicahwitz]

I’d say all those guys mentioned are fighters. Skill levels vary, but each one could easily pound on your average untrained person.

[@riffster]

Lost all respect for him when he said Bruce Lee was not a fighter. Bruce Lee was good enough to fight 2 or more guys. He would’ve been the greatest fighter of all time.

[@BearsFanGoomba]

Love these interviews with Don Wilson!

[@wutang_batman]

I really like MJW, But ANYBODY TMthinks that jackie chan could've beat Bruce Lee..I can't take seriously. Also.. I can't speak on the others, but when it comes to Bruce Lee..he was the only one who truly trained for real life fights and situations and not for sports.

[@Trick-Framed]

Michael Jai White seems to be a runaway Dunning-Krueger example.

[@carnivorousbarbie]

Being full oneself is never a good look. Micheal has talent. He should respect others who do also. I'm confused as to why he needs to be the best and put down everyone who isn't him.

[@Battle_One]

Vlad is goading him into these conversations knowing full well that MJW doesn't have hairs on his tongue.