Vance & Hines US spec Slip ons for Triumph Street Twin

[@travelinben1966]

Sounds really good either way,but baffles out give it that nice deeper tone.Beautiful mufflers.Kudos to V&H! 👏👏👏👏👏

[@tinks43]

A nice deep growl, like it! 👍

[@mancavemoto]

The question has been asked by several people, so today I had my bike remapped with the programme for the US spec slip on's. The Bike ran fine with stock map, but I have to say that it is BETTER with the new map! Its lost just a slight touch of its a bit deep burble, which is more noticeable on overrun, however, throttle response seems 'snappier' the bike has a bit more urgency and as it warmed up it sounded more and more fantastic. So if you swap to these pipes, you can leave it be, it won't be a problem, but I can definitely recommend the remap. It's a quick and simple job, so if the dealer tries to charge too much for labour......go to another dealer.

[@acerforge3882]

The dealer told me that there is no different map for these silencers. The V&H map is for the sports complete system ( that's the high level one ), that's not to say it wouldn't make some difference with the silencers only.

[@mancavemoto]

Acer Forge I was told there is a difference between the e marked and US marked

[@acerforge3882]

Thanks. I'll try to get clarification direct from Triumph.

[@mancavemoto]

I'll also ask the dealer for the map codes...

[@JuanDavid-gb6mo]

Hey Tony great video and very explanatory!. I got my speed twin 900 and I was thinking about getting the slash cut out pipes from British customs.. any thoughts on that ?? I’ve heard that it can damage your engine and performance of the bike in the long term but not too sure. Thank toy very much

[@mancavemoto]

Thanks, they shouldn’t cause any issues especially if you leave the catalytic converter in place

[@klausoliveira3932]

11:15 - Have you tried using a clapboard? It would help you synchronizing everything.

[@ericsparkman3645]

That little bracket at the bottom is for the rubber bumper on the center stand.

[@mancavemoto]

Thanks Eric, it was just odd that the bracket didn't go the the same hole as the stock pipe. I guess there must be a reason. I'll take another look at it

[@anthraxmetal442]

Hey Tony, great video, thank you! Followed this to put the black V&H on my Street Cup. The only thing I did differently was flip the jubilee clips round so the screw head was on top, because I thought that looked a lot neater than the threaded part of the screw being visible. I didn’t seem to have that sleeve for the left side exhaust so no drilling out required (could be a small difference between the Twin and the Cup?) I also found getting the baffles out a ****ing nightmare, but that’s another story!! Haha. Masking tape round the inside edge stopped me from scratching the second exhaust anyway :) Thanks again!!

[@mancavemoto]

That’s a good idea, and to be honest if I had flipped the spacer I wouldn’t have needed to drill anything! Maybe I was just lucky with the baffles

[@pellecuerthomas6016]

Hi Tony, I look at all your vidéos. Very Help full. Thanks a lot. Can you please clear me up? I've already put on a X-pipe on my street twin and I'm about to buy a US spec Vance & Hines slip on pipes. Does my bike requires ignition remapping with the US spec Vance & Hines slip on pipes add to X-pipe ? Thomas (from France - Alps)

[@mancavemoto]

You can get away without the remap, but I had mine done with the Triumph 'off road' map ie the one issued for the high-level scrambler pipe (which obviously has no cat) and it made an improvement

[@acerforge3882]

The top hat on the left hand side is not supposed to go through the frame mounting hole. Its purpose is to limit the compression of the rubber mount while allowing the bolt to be fully tightened and not just nipped up as you suggest. The concept is exactly the same as the other two rubber mounts.

[@mancavemoto]

Acer Forge Thanks I'll check it out, as mine must have been fitted wrong at the factory as I put it back in the same manner. Nevertheless the mount didn't reach to the front hole as it does on the stock silencer

[@acerforge3882]

The front hole is for the centre stand pivot and I'm pretty sure its not where the stock silencer mounts. I fitted the stand and the silencers at the same time.

[@mancavemoto]

Acer Forge ok, I thought it was the other way around.

[@mancavemoto]

My stock exhaust was certainly mounted there as the mark from the rubber bush was/is still visible. weird

[@JohnDough1776]

I got pretty moist with the baffles out LOL

[@mancavemoto]

Oooeer!

[@klossy4]

Where can you get the US spec pipes in the UK? I can only find the ones that you can’t remove the baffle. Thanks!

[@mancavemoto]

I'm not sure if they are available any more?

[@JamesCloud-h1t]

Hi Tony, after remove the baffle. if i would like to put it back on. will the circle clip still able to hold it securely? coz now the circle clip is without the welded little tab. Thanks

[@mancavemoto]

Yes, it will hold it ok, just make sure you clean up any weld left on the circlip so that it seats properly.

[@JamesCloud-h1t]

@@mancavemoto Awesome. appreciate your advise. Thanks mate

[@ogvit0r]

Great vid. Question regarding the non threaded sleeve, are you suppose to put it in the hole closer to the front wheel or the hole where the original exhaust bracket was? I have the pipes but have yet to install and did a visual check today on the two holes. I'm trying to avoid drilling. Thanks in advance.

[@jayasingamratnasingam253]

ogvit0r did you get an answer to this. Also why can’t we just omit the sleeve?

[@kungfuman82]

Oh man, the sound with the baffles out....

[@teethaistralian6079]

Hi Tony just had my Street cup delivered with US spec V&H mufflers. I noticed that the right can was loose and had movement left to right. My dealer said that some of the cans on various Bonnie's can be a bit loose. I'm not convinced! Any issues tightening the fixings by hand and do I need a torque wrench to do the job properly?

[@mancavemoto]

Sounds like he's fobbing you off, there certainly shouldn't be any movement! No real need to torque them, just check the fixings are tight.

[@teethaistralian6079]

That's what I thought.Thanks for getting back so quickly on a sat night. And keep posting the great vids. 😀

[@viktorask]

Is this US version? As I got E9 Europe version A9600350 and no baffles nor slot where baffles should go is.

[@mancavemoto]

Yes it was only the US spec that had removeable baffles

[@cayerman1]

Just and fyi for anyone with the same issue I just had. I got these mufflers in black and it was a major pain to get the baffles out. I didn't think they were removable at first. Had to pry them loose with a screw driver.... not cool when they are almost $700! Be very careful and don't scratch the paint! Had to do a little touch up. But they sound sooooo nice!

[@mancavemoto]

8:29 onwards

[@jayasingamratnasingam253]

Hi Tony. I had the same problem with my Malaysian model Triumph street Twin with the US V&H where the sleeve didn’t fit in the hole. So I just omitted the sleeve rather than have to drill the hole. Will this be a problem?

[@kotiaali1662]

Hi tony great vid Can we use this exhaust on my royal Enfield gt650?

[@mancavemoto]

very unlikely

[@llloralles]

Hi, can you tell me please, if the off road SLIP-ONS model for the Thruxton R can have the dB killers removed like the Speed Twin SLIP-ONS US homolgation? I know the EU homolgation for both bikes have the same part nº, but the off road model for the Thruxton and the US Spec for the Speed Twin have different part nºs Cheers

[@mancavemoto]

If they are the us spec ones then yes they can be removed. Eu spec ones cannot

[@thomasteater5084]

would a street twin v&h exhaust fits a 2023 speed twins it looks similar thanks...

[@mancavemoto]

Looks similar, but i'm not sure on the bore of the pipes, or the position of the mount?

[@chong-kenglimdr8922]

Do the ends of the V&H pipes stick out as much as the original pipes? I dropped my bike recently, and the engine guard didn't protect the end of the pipe from getting scratched.

[@mancavemoto]

They are shorter, but I’m not sure that’s what you mean?

[@chong-kenglimdr8922]

@@mancavemoto sorry for my poor explaination. Looking from the back of the bike, are the V&H tips closer to the bike's body than the original? The original fray out quite a bit and the ends are not protected by the engine guard when dropped.

[@patthewoodboy]

@@chong-kenglimdr8922 they would get damage as well , just swapped the V and H back to original and it doesnt look much different

[@kiwiandyt123]

Sounds fantastic!

[@jamesatkins85]

Hi Tony - how did you get the US spec version? Triumph can only get the EU version (this is for the Speed Twin). Did you get directly from US? Anyone know if it's impossible to remove baffles on EU version or is it just tricky? Cheers.

[@mancavemoto]

I got them from a UK dealer. You can only remove the baffles from EU pipes with major surgery

[@jamesatkins85]

@@mancavemoto Thanks. Hearing yours without them makes the US more appealing...

[@nickthiru]

Hello Tony. I just wanted to say that I've recently become a big fan. I should be getting my new Street Twin next week and I've been watching a lot of ST-related content on KZbin, a lot of which are yours. Yours have been top-notch in terms of video and sound quality, and information and details. Very generous of you. Please keep up the great work you're doing. By the way, I too have asked for a pair of the US spec V&H slip ons. Do you think I should get it installed after the initial break-in period, when I bring the bike in for the first service? Or is it ok to get them installed (and remapping done?) before I take delivery? Thanks.

[@mancavemoto]

Hi Nick, thanks for your kind words. I started doing this as i went along as there was no other content on KZbin. Glad its been helpful for people and well received. I would say that there no reason why you shouldn't have them installed from the 'get go'. You might as well get that beautiful sound straightaway :)

[@nickthiru]

Views from the Man Cave Thanks for the feedback, Steve; I will ask them to install it right away. There is an additional concern, and that is whether or not I should request a remap (due to no baffles). Below, you mentioned that a remap isn't essential, although it is recommended. The only slight drawback to a remap, I think you said, is loosing a little bit of that deepness of the sound, which is something I loved about the V&H. Also, I MAY get an x-pipe installed as well, after the break-in. In this case, I WILL need to remap. But I'm just not sure yet if I want the x-pipe. I'm afraid it may change the sound coming out of the V&H. Will it? Or does it just increase the volume (apart from improving performance)? Cheers Steve! [There is a video of yours with the freespirits x-pipe and another comparing the stock, E V&H, and US V&H. It would be cool if you could record the x-pipe just the same and it to the latter, comparison video as well :-)]

[@mancavemoto]

Nick Thiru If you fit an xpipe then definitely have the remap. If just fitting the v&h, even without the baffles then the remap is less relevant. The two videos you mention were filmed with exactly the same equipment and set up, so between them give the sound difference for all the variations. Excluding the 2into1 high level pipe of course

[@nickthiru]

Views from the Man Cave Noted. Many thanks, once again.

[@jeanarruda2080]

Hi there! I'm trying to remove the baffles but looks like there is a tab that is spot welded on the "C" Clip that holds the baffle in place. Any advise on how to remove it ? Did you had that tab on yours (US Specs Vance & Hines) ?

[@mancavemoto]

Jean Arruda Hi Jean, yes there is a tab which you can just lever off. Take a look at the video for details

[@AnciAlverborg]

A link perhaps ? I have a hard time to find it...

[@mancavemoto]

Available from Triumph dealers, although no all will supply the US spec ones

[@51jjm]

Hi Tony. Not sure you'll see this and I'm (almost! ha!) ashamed to ask this; are those Vance & Hines emblems on those pipes removable? It looks like they are held on by screws maybe? Might be holes there too I'm thinking if you remove the emblems. The emblems bug me for some reason. Thanks for any reply on this. Thanks again for your very informative videos too. Cheers from John down in Greece.

[@mancavemoto]

Hi John, they look to be held on with rivets, so won’t be easy to remove neatly

[@51jjm]

Thanks so much Tony. Really appreciate you answering my question. Cheers again.@@mancavemoto

[@Aodxful]

Hey man ! I tried to remove the baffles but it’s impossible. I removed the « C » Clip but after the baffle looks like he is welded or glue. Any issue ? Thanks !

[@mancavemoto]

If the circlip is removed they should just pull out. If they are not brand new, they might need quite a firm tug.

[@hawkrider88]

Do we know if there is any actual horsepower increase with this V&H exhaust?

[@mancavemoto]

I’ve not seen any numbers, but with it being a little more free flowing I would expect maybe 1 or 2 hp at the most

[@hawkrider88]

Thank you.

[@PNRobo]

Hi. Sound werry nice. May i asked you,can i remove baffles on mine Triumph Street Cup ?

[@mancavemoto]

Hi Robert, if they are the stock pipes then no im afraid you can't remove the baffles

[@PNRobo]

Oh ,than i have to buy V&H i think. Any way thx for answer and lot of nice videos that u make for us. GJ ,go on.

[@PNRobo]

If i can i have one more question. Do i need after remove Cat and with a new pipes , load a new engine map in triumph?

[@mancavemoto]

+Robert Hromádka You don't need to Robert, but it seemed to help mine feel more dynamic

[@Mew-qn3xm]

Might be a grey area but is it illegal to remove the baffles?

[@torqueofthedevil8145]

Does this bike still have the cats on? Also where did you buy the US spec V&H from? Thanks in advance

[@mancavemoto]

The cat was still in place at this point. I bought the exhaust through my local Triumph dealer

[@Sttouf12]

Hi, great video. Where did you buy those Vance & Hines US spec slip ons from?

[@mancavemoto]

Thanks Moose, I ordered them from my Triumph dealer

[@Sttouf12]

Thank you

[@andrewbull3537]

Tony,did i notice a small oil leak at 10.45 minutes?

[@mancavemoto]

10:45?

[@Saigonner2024]

I wonder are these V&H fit with Bonnie T100 ?

[@mancavemoto]

I think they might

[@johngorse6054]

Did you figure out if they fit? I would love to get these for my t120

[@Harry-Musariya]

Is this Exhaust can be used in Re Intercepter 650?

[@mancavemoto]

Hari Pratap Singh Rana No Sorry

[@MrChulliadan]

What ia the difference in EU spec. and US spec., i have EU spec with out baffles on my ST 2019 model. My part no v&h A9600531

[@mancavemoto]

The us spec have removable baffles, the EU spec have fixed ones.

[@knightlautrec4311]

Thanks for the video. Wondering if anyone has any thoughts. My Street Twin has been having issues when coming to a stop, I pull the clutch in the revs will just drop to basically nothing before they suddenly catch up to idle again, sometimes it'll stall entirely. It has V&H pipes (came with the bike). I've had it at different garages and they're unable to find any problems, neither can I, but one of the mechanics suggested it may be my pipes causing the issue. As far as I know it wasn't remapped, I got it 2nd hand though so can't confirm. Is it possible the V&H (open US spec) pipes could cause something like that? Bike runs mostly fine otherwise though some days it will conk out after I start it up. Again, no issues have been found to date (fuels good, airs good, sparks are good, no engine lights or error codes, no vacuum leaks, sensors are seemingly OK).

[@mancavemoto]

What year is it? There was a recall for the wiring loom that was too short and was wearing through at the headstock. Some owners reported similar issues before the loom was replaced

[@knightlautrec4311]

@@mancavemoto 2016, I actually had a look at my loom and it's seen some better days. I don't have a Triumph dealer I can go to (location) but I assume you can get looms through parts suppliers?

[@mancavemoto]

There was a problem with early bikes. The loom was too short and it pulled tight and rubbed on the headstock when on full right lock. The loom was replaced under warranty, so it could be worth checking with dealer or Triumph themselves if it’s ever been replaced. Did you buy it new?

[@knightlautrec4311]

@@mancavemoto No 2nd hand and there's no local Triumph dealer, I'd have to travel (across the ocean). I checked my VIN on the Triumph website and I have no active recall, so I assume it was already done. It's definitely still worn though so may be worth replacing again anyway.

[@mehmetalganatilla9196]

Hi how much are the stock clip on exhaust of this bike?

[@mancavemoto]

I have no idea, but there will be plenty for sale on eBay after people switch to aftermarket ones!

[@gennaromoraca4547]

Hi Tony, hope this finds you great. I'm going to instal the Vance & Hines 2:1 exhaust on my Street Scambler. Said that, do you advise to change also the "air filter" and to check the mapping at the 'engine control unit'? On the Internet, seems this procedure is recommended, to let the engine breath more after the replacement of the stock exhaust with one without the cat. I see one available for SS produced by K&S, on British Customs website... Thanks! G

[@mancavemoto]

It's really down to you, if you just change the exhaust, there is really no need to do anything else. There is a map specifically for that exhaust (which is the map I had installed) which does help. I didn't worry about the intake side, as I don't think it makes too much difference to performance really. I only installed the xpipe and v&h pipes for the sound. Although I have a video coming up when i install the 2:1 hi level system

[@parthiv1991]

Why did you go for Vance & Hines, and not some other exhaust? Maybe Zard or REMUS?

[@mancavemoto]

There will no doubt be others, but I wanted to cover the Vance & Hines ones first. There will be a comparison of the 3 v&h versions coming up soon

[@parthiv1991]

awesome!!

[@theglynux]

I'm looking forward to this, great video

[@zmkong646]

Nice,I want buy it

[@LionSharpAction]

Excellent vid mate

[@mancavemoto]

Cheers, glad you liked it

[@LionSharpAction]

Views from the Man Cave lots of great vids man, I'm really thinking of getting this bike too

[@mitch4719]

Hi Tony - love your videos. It’s hard to tell in the video, but is there an appreciable difference in volume with the baffles in place? I’m planning a long trip on my Street Cup and have this V&H exhaust. I’ve never ran the baffles, but am considering putting them in for the trip.

[@mancavemoto]

Thanks, yes there definitely a difference which I think will make a difference and make the exhaust less tiresome on long journeys

[@CYOTsNiper]

Any need to do any remapping?

[@mancavemoto]

I'm going to see, I did maybe 130/40 miles today going to the London DGR, and had no issues. Idles fine no popping on overrun etc. If the cat comes off then I think it will deffo need a remap

[@CYOTsNiper]

Was that with the baffle in or out?

[@mancavemoto]

Out, of course ;)

[@DustinHodgkin]

I'm wondering about remapping as well?? When I had BC Predators installed on my '12 Bonnie the service dept. said remapping was required…they probably just wanted my $.

[@mancavemoto]

Les, see my latest comment. Deffo worth doing in my opinion

[@andycameron4631]

Can anyone tell me about the difference between the US spec vs UK spec pipes? Cheers!

[@mancavemoto]

US spec pipes have removable baffles, EU spec ones do not

[@andycameron4631]

Views from the Man Cave Legend, thanks pal 👍👍

[@koustalmaity5351]

Does this affects the mileage of the bike??

[@mancavemoto]

I didn’t notice any change in the mpg at all

[@Dakine9230]

hello, i have part-nr9600504, is this US or EU ?

[@mancavemoto]

I think thats the stock exhaust as fitted from the factory. I believe they are the same regardless of the region?

[@Dakine9230]

@@mancavemoto can I remove the baffles from This one ?

[@mancavemoto]

If it’s the euro spec pipe then no you cant

[@Dakine9230]

@@mancavemoto This is written on it , Black Ceramic Slip-Ons, US Homologated Part Number: A9600503

[@mancavemoto]

Ok then yes you should be able to. You can easily see if there’s a circlip in the end

[@suvosengupta9235]

Can someone send me Vance and Hines slip on with baffles to India from UK

[@henryandersson995]

Hi Tony. Do you have the partnumber for these V&H slip ons US stock?

[@mancavemoto]

I think they are A9600518

[@henryandersson995]

Hi, thanks for your reply. However I think A9600518 is for the European stock slipons, unless they both have the same part number, which would be quite odd... :-)

[@papi96]

I got the BC customs one. careful with NRC fek. Angle it up some more more. I hit a bump with the gf in the back and it bent it. Had to get a new one.

[@mancavemoto]

Thanks Duniesky, I was worried about that so checked it out. The shocks bottom out before it hits anything

[@andrewbull3537]

Sorry, at 10 minutes and 30 seconds there was (i think) a drop of oil that fell to the ground , not being rude mate ,see you later, careful on the road

[@mancavemoto]

Ah right, no problem, no offence taken. Deffo not oil, probably just some moisture from the new exhaust joint. Good spot though, eagle eyes

[@SavioureG]

Amazing sound, but for 990 EUROs? hell to the N.O! definetly not worth it for sound alone haha, great video anyway!

[@mancavemoto]

Yeah they are not cheap! and thanks

[@patthewoodboy]

about to sell my ST .. when its sold anyone interested in my V and H exhaust ? I am about to buy a Speed Twin :-)

[@Shaqeroni]

DM me if you still have them? Brushed or Black?

[@patthewoodboy]

@@Shaqeroni sorry the deal didnt go through .. not a single phone call for my ST and then I thought about it a long while and decided I love the ST too much.

[@aronchas]

sweeettt!

[@DM-ci2nn]

Do these fit a Rocket?

[@mancavemoto]

I would very much doubt it

[@Dazsnr]

could you tell me the size of the c clip that holds the baffles in? have this exhaust on my T120. Came with baffles removed, I have the baffles to no C Clips to keep in place.

[@mancavemoto]

Ah sorry, I don't have the bike any more so I can't measure them for you!