Vanilla Smash 4 Ryu: Same character who was massively affected by one universal difference

[@bigbangbot-SuperSqank]

This video is finally done. Sorry that it took so long. I was originally going to make this video a lot sooner but numerous things happened which very much delayed the production of this video. I have finally finished the video and I hope it turned out well. I will be honest and say that I don't have any immediate plans for my next Smash video, I will definitely be working on other projects for the time being. I'm even interested with experimenting on analytic videos on other topics. But with that being said, I do still see myself making Smash videos in the future, it's just that there will be sizeable gaps between each video. If anyone has any further questions about this topic they'd like to ask, feel free. There is one thing I didn't mention in the video which I would like to address here (I will also mention that S4 didn’t have rage in training mode so whenever you see me KO with Shoryuken in training mode, that’s with no rage). If you are wondering how Ryu's fireballs were affected by the shield changes (since they are projectiles), they were still worse on shield in earlier versions. The extra hitlag the fireballs have didn't apply to shields early on (but the hitlag did apply later on) so Fireballs did not lock down shielding opponents for as long in earlier versions.

[@Manuel-po5rt]

What is your next video going to be with this format? I really like your videos explaining stuff like this, but I think you can make more videos talking on more things than just Smash, do your best, I believe on you!

[@bigbangbot-SuperSqank]

Right now, I’m not sure and it might not actually come into fruition but I do have ideas.

[@Manuel-po5rt]

@@bigbangbot-SuperSqank Whatever you're gonna do, make it as best as you can, I'm sure it'll be great.

[@shadestrider1033]

If you need an Idea, Melee Roy’s Dash attack or Brawl Meta Knight’s Jab are things I’d like to see analyzed.

[@Wohingenaau]

Didn't know that Ryu didn't have any direct changes to his moves at all except for that 3 frame animation change. Nice video Sqank Abi

[@bigbangbot-SuperSqank]

ty Abi, you weren’t the only one. And congratulations on getting the Madagascar 100% WR you absolute legend.

[@TheRedStinger82]

Smash 4 Ryu was certainly a character.

[@squid_kid5108]

Let’s not get ahead of ourselves

[@Myst1c_OW]

@@squid_kid5108 LOL

[@tonberry2670]

Basically he was a prototype Kazuya

[@chrisrockett5897]

They could never make me hate you, Smash 4.

[@isaacflask]

Smash 4 is good when you don’t got a bitch in your ear telling you it’s bad

[@paz8723]

Gotta say man you're an underrated gem and I share your vids pretty often to my old smash bros friends. We're more into fgc stuff nowadays but still appreciate documenting the history we lived through as wifi kids lol

[@bigbangbot-SuperSqank]

Thanks and I do know the feeling. I’m not that skilled or competitively informed on many traditional FGs competitively but I still get a kick watching FGC content from time to time.

[@Faremax_]

i have no clue about smash but ive binged all these videos for some reason and i still dont understand who that funny guy you keep editing in is. keep it up man

[@MrGameguyC]

Damn, never would have considered this. Goes to show how a few mechanical changes can significantly affect a character's gameplan. (Gotta love frame advantage) Had the patches ended at 1.1.2 (we're not leaving that weird Diddy shield immune glitch alone), Ryu would have been Top Tier. (Blame Cloud, Corrin and Bayo for mudding things up :p) Great job, this is your best video yet!

[@bigbangbot-SuperSqank]

ty

[@MercuryPenny]

rosa and sonic both hard counter ryu so he'd probably still be stuck on the upper end of high tier

[@Athorment]

you! Hello

[@MrGameguyC]

@@Athorment Howdy!

[@turtwigontheweb]

Ryu really is the Ryu of smash bros

[@adamswing6115]

Watching this, and then looking at your popular tab and seeing talking tom videos from 10 years ago is some incredible whiplash

[@Crazybark]

finally soeone talking about Smash 4 Ryu

[@iliakatster]

I could see the vision, if you're trying to do a motion input tatsu and having to finish a quarter circle and press the button in 2 would feel pretty janky while 5 frames would be a decent buffer time. Maybe the animation is the same but just the point where he's considered "turned around" is later?

[@flamingpaper7751]

I thought this was going to be about shieldstun cancelling. Had no idea the shieldlag multiplier formula completely changed

[@VerbDoesStuff]

Every time I think about Smash 4, I just think about how bayo aside, the meta never really had a chance to fully mature

[@bigbangbot-SuperSqank]

Oh yes, definitely. With Ultimate only coming out 4 years after 4, Smash 4’s meta never had as much time to develop as the other games.

[@appleando752]

Fun Fact: Despite the fact that Frozen 3 doesn't even have a trailer yet. There are plans for Frozen 4.

[@ValianceGames]

I absolutely adore your use of the Mirabel still XD the insanity

[@the_bookworm8281]

I knew about hitlag affecting shields once upon a time and on how much it affected Lucina (who is prob the funniest example of this lol), but I never knew it affected Ryu as much as it did.

[@Bayyyro]

wow, i havent seen sm4sh footage in a long while. i only ever played it on my 3ds xl, the memories

[@DucksAndCatnip]

thanks stampy

[@MrGameguyC]

1:15 Where is that Megaspeed "NO" clip from?

[@bigbangbot-SuperSqank]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/iaGwpWOah6ush6Msi=Ne-R3FodWGzKS8R0 (timestamp is 8:58)

[@MrGameguyC]

@@bigbangbot-SuperSqank Thank you

[@salvatore_slate]

earned my sub

[@rosswood3875]

Banger

[@notund-a]

the fact that ryu is unchanged in smash 4 makes him like the Anti-Puff. he didn't change at all, only the game did, and yet he remained entirely decent. another great vid as always!

[@wackywakko6694]

Oh patch 1.1.1 the patch that not only change not only sheild & sheild damage moves & hitlag modifier changes its also the same patch a certain green plumber got nerfed

[@bigbangbot-SuperSqank]

Ah yes, the other big change in 1.1.1. That and Diddy had a glitch where you couldn’t grab him (and he couldn’t shield) after a specific setup. What a patch 1.1.1 was.

[@wackywakko6694]

Yeah I remember that glitch it was so bad they have to patch in the next patch in 1.1.2 to not be allowed to grab diddy is pretty dumb

[@MrMisfortune]

This video is great, but if youre able to, the title should be changed. Not because the one this video has is bad, in fact its a good description of its content. But its a little long winded, something like "Vanilla Smash 4 Ryu: How one difference entirely changed a character " for example would be preferable I don't say this to be mean or anything else like that, its just that youve made something great and entertaining here, and I think a better title could help it reach even more people

[@bigbangbot-SuperSqank]

ty. The title was very much a last minute decision. I didn’t even know what to call the video until it was already uploading. I do appreciate the feedback although I’m ok with how it is now. My goal with these videos isn’t to reach the widest audience possible but to instead just make something informative and entertaining in my own style. Getting as much traction as possible is not what I am aiming for, just making fun videos to educate and entertain.

[@MrMisfortune]

@@bigbangbot-SuperSqank I respect that, obviously growth isn't the most important thing on KZbin, it's how much you enjoy making what you do, I just felt that making something of high quality should warrant more recognition is all. Have a good one man.

[@AJhabel]

I was watching the smash ultimate reveal trailer earlier and they said in that whole reveal that ryu had a buff that wasn’t really a buff so maybe that’s where that came from 🤔

[@CipherKnighto]

I think this would be fire with some background music. This video is great otherwise

[@JeanBalayn]

For a short range character, i think this is normal, marth is stil stupid since mele when he was braindead, now in smash ultimate he is a complete de unique character.

[@z-past1454]

Your smash videos are actually good. I just think you need better thumbnails and should try KZbin shorts. I don’t mind assisting in editing or content creating

[@megazardxl7844]

Sm4sh was Ryu was so much fun and going in to ultimate he stayed as one of the most enjoyable characters in the game, nothing tops landing a chucky heavy dp

[@thatonecaster6501]

...i wish he had the parry mechanic

[@mifaro2255]

i can see the turnaround change. 3 frames is not a lot in a 60fps game, you may have to actually go frame by frame and count.

[@DeliTheNellie]

67 views, in one hour, fell off......jk ofc but i can already tell im gonna love this video, good job as always my friend, quite the masterpiece of work :3

[@Nawakooo0]

Smash 4 was so quirky

[@ItsMiiUly]

shtewpid :3

[@GabrielAidley]

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[@cdstars]

great video but please for the love of god change the title i'm begging you. i was so close to not even clicking because i just had no idea wtf i was about to watch. almost lost a sub :/

[@brydenknowshisgun8486]

oh my god