VAR CONTROVERSY🤬

[@noordin59]

Many fans are still missing the point. Don't make it about Arsenal or Liverpool or Man United BUT understand that it's about THE INCONSISTENCIES of the referees that true football fans are complaining. The referees are spoiling the game that we love that they border around crossing the line towards CORRUPTION!

[@MrGayle_]

I agree, but titles like "Arsenal cheated" contribute to tribalism rather than addressing the broader issue with refereeing. It also fuels the conspiracy theories that some of the more extreme Reddit users love to push. But end of day Terry has ro increase engagement so he not really doing anything different to what many content creators do with their video titles.

[@BrianConlon-ng5bw]

true football fans sadly all vanished after KZbin was launched as it's now plastic fans crying about referees are spoiling the game now Ring any bells?

[@BettyHagi]

Exactly

[@MrFudge2016]

​@@BrianConlon-ng5bwtrue fans also mocked how bad refereeing was pre KZbin but you kiddies in ya Nappies like to talk thru the arse alot

[@Diogo85]

​@@BrianConlon-ng5bwFalse. There are still many true football fans.

[@ayntchytius]

Michael oliver is literally a man city employee

[@amosmramba]

How?

[@alan8270]

@@amosmrambaHe was paid more than 10x wage to referee an UAE Pro league game last year, which is a league sponsored by ADNOC, a company owned by the chair of City

[@lllordllloyd]

​@@amosmramba Ownership structure if Man City. Oliver is paid about 20 times the going rate to ref a few meaningless games in a tournament owned/financed by Man City owners. Man City has an official who, when at Barcelona, was involved in a scandal to bribe opponents. Oliver could do himself some big favours by disconnecting from Man City money.

[@Chutney_NFT]

How the actual f*** can Ndidi kicking the ball off the pitch NOT be delaying the restart? If an Arsenal player runs over to take the free kick, they'd have to run off the pitch to retrieve the ball that Ndidi kicked away, bring it back on to the spot where the foul was in order to take the free kick. That's literally the definition of delaying the restart.

[@KoshoShinogi]

These main stream British media outlets will go through all sorts of mental gymnastics to defend any decision a referee makes no matter how obviously incorrect. They've long since lost any credibility. It's a very simple concept. "Delay" means to make something take longer to happen. When you move the ball further away from the spot where the free kick will take place, it has to be brought back to that spot, which takes more time. This is ALWAYS a delay. There is no other relevant context to add. Next week, an Arsenal player will do exactly what Ndidi did, get carded for it, and the same pundits will be explaining why this time it actually was delaying the restart. Complete nonsense.

[@Chutney_NFT]

@@KoshoShinogi Well said! I 100% agree.

[@thezanzibarbarian5729]

When Veltman was _"fouled"_ by Rice in the Arsenal v Brighton game, he literally jumped up immediately and kicked the ball at the back of Rice's legs before trying to take a free kick on a moving ball and ended up just kicking Rice. It's all double standards. As for Fernando's red card. Utter BS. Yellow at most.

[@BrianConlon-ng5bw]

Call the Samaritans The international dialing code for the UK is 0044 Good luck

[@gavinwilliams1687]

@@BrianConlon-ng5bwBrian are you replying from Spain or your bedsit in Manchester?

[@thezanzibarbarian5729]

@@BrianConlon-ng5bw Why would I need to use the UK's international dialing code when I've lived in the UK for the last 60 years? Are you suggesting that I'm not English by my avatar and name!? 🤔😲 😅🤣😂

[@slimcharles2568]

@@BrianConlon-ng5bwprojecting your own suicidal tendencies on complete strangers is scum bag behaviour bro, seek help

[@gavinwilliams1687]

@@thezanzibarbarian5729he’s a troll, he claimed the other day that he was a Real Madrid fan and lived in Spain for three months of the year,he no more lives in Spain than I’m playing up front for the Arsenal tonight 😂😂😂😂

[@James.R25]

Dermot Gallagher was one of the worst referees I have seen. Typical Sky sports quality BS.

[@BadBoyV1]

This shit has been happening to Arsenal more than any other big club for nearly two decades, not conspiracy it's fact.

[@VTh-f5x]

😂😂😂

[@yooyoo8637]

Nah, happens to every club. Apart from Man City

[@chrismorgan3898]

​@yooyoo8637 agreed. Calm down it doesn't happen to arsenal the most you guys just whinge the most. Odegard played basketball in the box

[@MohamedHanad-ys8lt]

Chelsea is the biggest victim...

[@whatsisname]

Since April 2003. Away vs. Bolton

[@ATASCOCITACARCAREANDCOLLISION]

The ball was thrown 5 yards away from the correct spot of the free kick. It hit him on the heel and he had no idea Veltman was running up behind him when he flicked it away, he wasn't looking back. Mainly because he'd walked at least 5 yards from where the foul was, so never expected Veltman to take a free kick from where he was when Veltman threw it forward towards him. No way you could say he was delaying a restart intentionally.

[@raypearson2461]

He couldn't wait to get the card out . Didn't hesitate, this was very similar to the Henry landsbury last season in championship different outcome plus different comments on ref watch afterwards. Stinks the doubling down on bad decisions. Best league in world with some of the worst refereeing decisions.

[@keithkirby7376]

ffs this is getting old. trossard didnt boot the ball away. he was mid swing on a long ball to martinelli bombing down the left side. go look at pictures. all this debate isnt even needed. arsenal were robbed because trossard didnt kick the ball away with the intention to delay restart. full stop.

[@hoverarmgaming4739]

Isn’t this the same guy that said the ball rolling for the Rice one was irrelevant. By the same token as that wouldn’t a lack of players nearby also be irrelevant?

[@drewstar8611]

It all boils down to this ‘we don’t care until it happens to our team’

[@YTNat83]

Terry cares, even when the knuckledraggers give him stick

[@sonnyloffy8804]

It doesn’t matter if there is no Arsenal player near the ball, letter of the law means Ndidi kicked the ball away and should be booked. So “Letter of the law” no longer applies after they have cost Arsenal 4 points. That really reeks of double standards.

[@patricklareine3606]

Dermot Gallagher should wear an anti Arsenal shirt

[@VantaBlackhole]

The fact VAR isn’t supposed to get involved in yellow cards,yet it very openly does is something that needs addressed.

[@Martina-j2n]

Remember how when Rice got sent off and Gallagher said the rolling ball was irrelevant because Brighton (veltman) never got to take the freekick because rice kicked the ball away 😂, how can you say that and then say the Leicester player kicking the ball away doesn't matter because he wasn't delaying a restart? 😂, how do you know Dermot? We never got that far 😂. He's also just confirmed trossard shouldn't have been sent off this week (despite saying it was a 2nd yellow last week) because he didn't delay a restart, Bernardo was on the floor and city wanted to set up for a free kick, nobody was looking to take it quickly therefore there was no delay. The issue here is that some refs are giving yellows for 'kicking the ball away' regardless of whether it has any impact on the game or restart time, now they want to change the narrative

[@ThatGuyNorm]

Then why was Trossard sent off? There was no one near him either and he got sent off ?

[@HearszAM]

Exactly the point Terry is making. This ex-ref is just backing up the inconsistency of the refereeing, and how Arsenal have been punished where other teams/players haven't been for doing the exact same thing. It's pathetic.

[@vkdeen7570]

trossard booted the ball 40 yards after barging a man in the back lol come on now rice was unlucky barely flicked the ball after it was kicked at him, that was a braindead ref

[@ThatGuyNorm]

@@vkdeen7570 what's the difference? Is it fir kicking the ball or stopping the quick retake? Well?

[@stnbch3025]

​@@ThatGuyNorm Only an i,iot uses Trossard as an example. You only end up being an i,iot hiding behind the fact that he didn't get a yellow for a foul totally worth yellow.

[@vkdeen7570]

@ThatGuyNorm let's use a hypothetical... a player is down, the opposition player flicks the ball 0.5m to side... in real terms does that delay a restart? the Answer is no. same scenario but this time the opposing player boots the ball 70 tards into the opposite corner? the answer is yes. someone has to physically go collect that ball, which takes time. it not just a petulant little kick or passing ball back it's a deliberate attempt to delay that only can lead to a slower restart it's the equivalent of comparing a non forceful lung to a forceful lunge.. ones a red ones yellow or just a foul. the force changes the ruling.

[@1dlecap]

The fans having a pop at Terry for talking sense vs having a pop at the utter shambles at the PGMOL are part of the problem. This ain't an Arsenal thing, it's a football thing, which impacts everyone.

[@ShaneAllenTV]

And therein lies the problem: its not happening to their team, so they're ignoring the fact that its a football problem, and see it as just an Arsenal problem. Conveniently.

[@blackkid128]

@@stuartgolby9767there wasn’t any decisions against Liverpool vs arsenal that were bad

[@blackkid128]

@@stuartgolby9767 that isn’t a penalty or foul according to the rules though. You’re just crying about it for no reason

[@blackkid128]

@@stuartgolby9767 they never apologised. Why are you lying?

[@blackkid128]

@@stuartgolby9767 blinkered for knowing the rules? The irony is you’re complaining because a fair decision never went to your team.

[@thearsenalmisfit2414]

You want honestly try this. The title last year was not decided by the players it was decided by the PGMOL, and they are well on their way to doing it again, and we only just completed week 6. It is no longer the EPL , it's now the English Premier Officials League, with top stars like Taylor , Oliver , Atwell a d Kavenaugh doing the absolute best at making sure they the center of attention where ever they take the field.. watcha as they battle for the covenanted Golden Whistle, given to the Official that is the most inconsistent at calls, give the most ridiculous yellow and red cards and sitting in the VAR Booth ignoring the most basic rules and putting players safety at risk by ignoring the most dangerous of fouls. I've actually stopped watching games these last 2 seasons I was so disgusted with the officials, and that is bad news for the league when people stop watching.

[@mateusgam1234]

There are laws, but they are not black and white. Its that simple. Lets take a gliding tackle as an example, could be perfect, could be meh, or could go totally wrong. Its still the same action. So you have to use your common sense, to determine what kind of card it has to be, if any. I saw the Arsenal games. And not Rice or Trossard, deserved a red, its that simple. Looking at their overall play until that decision, they werent near a second yellow. Simple at maximum tell them, to not do it again, or the second yellow will be given for kicken the ball away more than one time. Then fair?

[@jeewssam8418]

Dermet proves Arsenal fans point on a conspiracy against them. Absolute bellend

[@Lee-sg3hr]

Agree its the inconsistency that's driving players, fans etc crazy. Arsenal seems to be a point of reference everytime this subject comes up. Yet we see bad decisions being made right across the league. At old Trafford i think Fernandez slips before trying to make the tackle in the game against Spurs. Incidentally i am Arsenal fan and have long held the view the officiating in the premier league needs to improve. Cant get no worse can it?

[@patrickpower9412]

Also Bruno Fernadez getting sent off was "Rollox"

[@peterhoffmann6343]

Remove ref’s mistake for Arsenal and city last two season and city would not have won the leagues

[@martinsolden1595]

Arsenal would still find a Way to throw it

[@MrFudge2016]

​@martinsolden1595 but arsenal didn't throw it. Pgmol threw it try again without the salt

[@dlaldlaldlanutsntnstn1418]

@@martinsolden1595 we won like 14 games in a row or something silly, how is that throwing it? Can't wait for us to win it so all you losers can cry about it

[@HaakonOdinsson]

@@martinsolden1595are you a spurs “fan”?

[@peterhoffmann6343]

@@martinsolden1595 are you really that dumb? wow 🤣😂🤣🤣😂🤣

[@SamanthaWaite-v9r]

The problem is if nothing is said about the inconsistency towards Arsenal, or other teams, then it will soon happen to every team, other than the favourites. It will soon be that a team is promoted to the PL from the Championship, and cause that promoted team is disliked, these incompetent pedantic unfair decisions, could cause them to be relegated. It's so obvious what is happening, and it needs to be called out. Also, admitting a decision was incorrect after the game with zero consequences does nothing for the team that has been wronged.

[@NB-pd1dw]

Arsenal would have been at the top of the table if not for the biased refs. Refs are harsh towards to Arsenal and it is a shame!

[@bluebloodmanny]

Boohoo

[@sharmaakea.4184]

Word.

[@sharmaakea.4184]

Man cheaty fan here crying boohoo. Disgrace of a club. Never won sh!t but cheated their way to some trophies.

[@bluebloodmanny]

@@sharmaakea.4184 I hate City, you knob 😂 but I hate Arsenal more

[@martinsolden1595]

@@bluebloodmanny Arsenal fans are the worse…

[@mikeblake9761]

It’s not doubling down, it’s double standards. If you’re Arsenal, you get trampled on with no remorse. If you’re Man City you get advantages.

[@winterbird4447]

Was always like that for whoever challenged Man Utd when they were on top as well through the Fergie years. And for Lpool when we were the ones challenging Man City like Arsenal are doing now.

[@MattO109]

Kavanagh red card was also out of a place of ego. Never takes a second to look around and try to comprehend what he witnessed. Just acts

[@MrMArsenal]

I've said it before and I'll say it again! The standard of refereeing in the Premier league is awful! They haven't got a clue what they're doing. Arsenal players gets booked for kicking the ball away....OK so why has nobody else been booked for doing the same thing!? Unless every fan from every team call it out, it'll never stop!

[@ronanmckeown9785]

Why would Dermot Gallagher's opinion matter. He was a terrible referee. His opinion is worthless.

[@faidhi8877]

Agree with u 100 % . Most of football channel fans almost always says its Arsenal's fault.

[@SsaliJoel-ig9pl]

The problem with premier league is that referees have become football fans for some clubs instead of remaining as football judges.

[@kwamegad]

100 per cent

[@nicholasturner5146]

As an Arsenal fan, I thought Calafiori could have been booked for that tackle. The trouble is that no two tackles are treated equally. Refs have to manage the game and as a consequence they make errors. They need to make a statement after every game and explain their thinking on certain decisions. If they admit they have made mistakes,I don’t think most people would be as angry as they are now, but maybe they would.

[@JordjeWing]

It should be treated like a business. If you make a mistake that potentially costs a company millions you'd face serious repercussions. However the refs make mistakes and nothing appears to be done about it. Sometimes they lose their jobs in the Premier League but that happens very rarely

[@dontknow8227]

9:13 I'm certain I saw var give a yellow this weekend!

[@Abc123ert56]

The ridiculous inconsistencies and media agendas coming from that Leicester game is insane.

[@CraigObrien-r5e]

Var not involved in yellow but they did with rice

[@Moleoflands]

Actually, VAR talks separately to the ref and assistants, unless they open the channel

[@omarwillis6069]

But who challenges Webb when he speaks $hit? That's 1 of the problem.

[@liamstewart4978]

Actually don’t mind way Webb explains things ,Dermot Gallagher is a clown tho

[@MrKeefy1967]

I think you'll find young Michael Owen does that to the very best of his ability. The fact that his ability is that of a wet fart is irrelevant.

[@kaneeforsterite9332]

@@MrKeefy1967u nearly had me with the Owen bit 😂

[@goonermatata187]

1 of forests goals last night was a quick free kick with the player still on the floor

[@obafemiadeyemi]

Bournemouth. Evanilson scored from a quick freekick when Semenyo was still on the ground.

[@goonermatata187]

@obafemiadeyemi oh yeah, my bad, nice one on the assist

[@emeka121]

Pierluigi Collina was excellent at speaking with players and captains before issuing yellow cards. He hardly ever dished out cards

[@SmoochoEsaLoca-ch3sq]

Beautiful piece, very beautiful and spot on. I’m an Arsenal fan and I also thought the Fernandes penalty was a joke, very loud joke

[@aabidamn]

There was a moment when Newcastle got a free kick in their own half, Gundogan literally ran 20 metres onto the ball and stopped in front of the free kick spot, thus delaying a restart. Yet he didn't even get a warning, which Trossard got in first yellow card during the Man City vs Arsenal game.

[@thelastredcoat1662]

But he's a City player, so it's okay.

[@JordjeWing]

Trossard's first yellow was pulling a player back not standing in front of a free kick spot

[@soccerdad2539]

Taken to extreme one could say Haaland throwing the ball at Gabriel delayed the restart after the goal😏

[@kwamegad]

exactly

[@vastcapital]

Spot on... very well presented

[@Zenosamax2]

Arsenal fan here but Bruno’s red card is about the worst decision Iv ever seen and shows these refs need to go

[@GlastoGeek7]

The thing is, VAR should be there to help the Referee get to the right/most sensible decision, taking in any mitigation, i.e - the Bruno sending off or indeed the context of the game etc. They are either too scared or too stupid to overturn heat of the moment decisions from the on-field Referee's. Undermining them is irrelevant. The 'right' decision should always be king.

[@matthewturvey563]

5:50 exactly, what if saka wanted to get up and take the kick. he couldnt even if he wanted to

[@pan2990]

Dermot tying himself in knots to back the PGMOL.

[@innercircle341]

The throw in one is far more serious. He shoulda been carded

[@skyrimplayer2335]

The only reason the refs and PGMOL are able to keep getting away with the clear inconsistencies and bias toward and against certain clubs is simple; FAN RIVALRY. They’ve always been able to make awful decisions on the pitch, and then the fans will bail them out online by spamming “cry more” “salty” etc. If Arsenal get screwed over, City and Liverpool fans are happy. If United get screwed over, Liverpool and Arsenal fans are happy, if West Ham get screwed over, London fans are happy. It’s a cycle. If fans just grew up and realised that these refs are completely out of their depth, and fans came together to all protest it, something would be done.

[@georgecoles7268]

its not about being "annoyed" they are stealing points from us and handing City the league AGAIN

[@yellayettithemythical7045]

Never a red for Bruno

[@simonspoke]

Terry can I suggest something that would be great for fans of your channel... If you have videos you show like the "ref watch" which can't be shown due to copyright, could you link the original video in the description or a pinned comment, so we can see for ourselves the action unblurred. Cheers mate. 👍

[@marksteer6287]

Never a red if you watch it he slipped before the tackle.. That's why it will get resinded

[@jonnybell9923]

Spot on Terry

[@xDominic880x]

Keith Hackett’s input feels like morphine icl…

[@santhoshZ100]

Yes please let VAR get involved in all foul stoppages. All they need to do is state the keypoints to the on-field ref, similar to a 3rd umpire in cricket. Points like 'Severity of foul' and 'recommended decision to maintain consistency' are all they need to say. VAR has much better views and angles. and it's gonna take just a few extra seconds to get the right decisions given.

[@bryanboi]

At this juncture they are just making up rules as it goes. Trust me, the next game when raya made a goal line save they gonna give raya a red card and call it a hand ball

[@kennylloyd5459]

They don't know what they are doing.

[@kwamegad]

they know exactly what theyre doing

[@minnumseerrund]

Worst thing in my opinion is that they do this every single season; they introduce a new policy over the summer, go gong-ho in the first 4-6 weeks and then realize (without publicly admitting it) that they've gone overboard. It was the exact same song and dance last year with the dissent bookings. Dalot got booked twice for dissent over the same damn incident! But when Haaland is screaming in the official's head there's nothing. Absolutely ridiculous.

[@RD-zx6py]

Rules don't apply to Haaland.

[@DeanForster72]

Also Terry Arsenal have had Jesus & Saliba carded for delaying the restart, so 4 players, yes it didn’t impact the game but it could have

[@MrFudge2016]

The presidenfe is set. Don mikel is not one to be messed with. If the hidden rule says you can kikc the ball away as the opposition player is down delaying restart. I want to see arsneal players booting them off the stadium in future scenarios when opposition players are down.

[@kevinb9830]

Why haven't they released the City audio yet?

[@loga1]

These decisions are subjective and even adding in VAR they will still be subjective. The PGMOL have got themselves into a right mess with this, making decisions based on a teams reputation ( even if its false), personal bias, trying to justify previous bad decisions and having to pretend that its the letter of the law. We have seen on many occasions this season already that the letter of the law is not being applied if they don't feel like it..

[@leemcphail634]

We live in a country with two tier policing, politics and now just when we should be able to forget all that..... we can't even watch a football match as there is now two tier officiating and governance from within football! The PGMOL aren't fit for purpose and needs to be overhauled.

[@kwamegad]

yep, one law for a certain rich club , another for everyone else

[@rld1982]

On the Fernandes red card (and I would add, for the Jack Stephens red card for Southampton vs Man U the other week), can someone point to where the law around red cards for serious foul play mentions the height at which the connection with the opponent is made? Or where it mentions "studs up"/"over the ball"?

[@andrewwright4195]

Jones slipped on of the ball and got red so don't know

[@andrewg3768]

I will never believe or take note of what this guy Dermot Gallagher says he's not only a hypocrite of the highest order but to me more corrupt and must hate Arsenal. Yes, I'm a Gooner, but I'm still correct on that. Just going by the Rice incident, let alone others, he was completely wrong on that, and you have shown video footage of him being contradictory on that, and this adds insult to that would. I've said it numerous times, and I will say it again the ball was kicked into Rice by the Brighton Defender whether by accident or on purpose. Therefore either the free kick had already been taken or the free kick couldn't be taken quickly and not from the mark so therefore the re-start had already been delayed by the Brighton player therefore what Rice did is irrelevant. Dermot's take on this is ridiculous, too. Also, that host or whatever he is or whatever his name is shouldn't be stirring the pot by saying this is going to get Arsenal fans angry.

[@kwamegad]

pundits love the controversy, it gets viewership figures up

[@matthewturvey563]

VAR teams and refs support certain teams im sure, 100% conflict of interests

[@rickydawson7388]

As an Arsenal fan, I would rather the PGMOL admit that Arsenal have been wrongly and disproportionately targeted/punished than to have the rest of the league suffer the same stupidity.

[@LondonLovesOlympics]

The goal post keeps on moving with them. Also the fact the don't highlight Oliver Skipps 3 yellow card fouls are crazy.

[@mqamdabantu]

Is this 'dealing play' thing only applying to the Premier League? I don't see this in La Liga and Bundesliga.I have seen players picking up the ball and walking away with it before they toss it back to the opposition.Refs get real!

[@HallsBleedRed]

We all ask for consistency when it’s a team that fancy or our team gets done by poor decisions; but when it’s a rival most fans are ok with it. Referees have never been consistent and I think that this again is one of this narratives that we can go on and on about. I would love to do an experiment where you Put all the referees in a room and have them referee a game alone and you will see how inconsistent they are with and without VAR, they are all subjective and become undone by the pressure. I said this at the introduction of VAR, this idea that VAR was going to eliminate mistakes and make calls consistent was a false narrative and a very bad thing to throw at the fans… because as we are seeing now the application of VAR is still down to the subjectivity of the human at the controls of the technology. I do agree that what is happening now as it did in the past, referees are never held accountable and now they are doing everything they can to justify their decisions and their mistakes. It’s like the police (no offense to any cops reading this) no one accept fault and blame or any wrong doing, they all ban together to justify whatever action they took. Nothing will change unless they start accepting their mistakes and take accountability and suffer consequences. VAR is a tool but still needs human error at the end of the day.

[@yorygibson-rc1lw]

I was all for goal line tech it solved a lot of problems but they then went for VAR and it's even worse than before. We as fan have banned together to make the PMLO CHANGE.

[@Joshads94]

Pedantic was the word you were looking for

[@tihomirm9358]

Rename the league to 6:43 115 league 😊 If you know what I mean

[@rickflose]

Give it ten years the corruption charges are coming

[@michaeljames2117]

Terry, the whole situation is terrible. Its all created by the referees themselves and like you said they double down on it. When Leicester scored there second goal, Vardy got the ball and absolutely leathered it into row "Z".

[@iijumunjii]

that wouldnt delay anything thought cause its a goal and will go yo VAR to double check. So there will always be a delay within that time.

[@kwamegad]

@@iijumunjii wouldve still been a yellow if an arsenal player did it tho...lol

[@iijumunjii]

@@kwamegad true 😅

[@raisko]

At this point, there's no value in having such discussions. Rival fans will just say that Arsenal fans are still whining over past games. The number of people who actually want to do something about VAR is so insignificant that PGMOL can basically create a show segment to justify their own mistakes with the poorest excuses, and rival fans will just accept those excuses if it means that they see their rivals suffer

[@raisko]

@@stuartgolby9767 That's exactly my point. Who is this "you"? Is it all Arsenal fans, or just the vocal lot who rather see rivals suffer than find justice? My point is that this vocal lot have come to represent entire fanbases, and there's really nothing much anyone can do about it because organisations like PGMOL know that they will always have the support of this vocal bunch

[@ParnhamT]

This is the thing that annoys me the most. They have no one on Sky that will ask the right questions and will challenge, because they aren't allowed and Sky wouldnt allow it. The people on ref watch should bring up the fact that Man City wasn't in a place to take the freekick with Bernardo on the floor. Why was that a yellow card but the one with Saka wasn't. Also the throw in was completely delaying play as they were mid action on taking the throw but nothing was given

[@jivet3919]

You’re demanding objectivity from a process that is not

[@ParnhamT]

@jivet3919 I'm asking for pundits to question consistency. Is the point of ref watch not to discuss decisions and understand with a former ref the reasoning behind the decisions made, to further increase consistency?

[@jivet3919]

@@ParnhamT No, the point of ref watch is to protect the establishment.

[@redlimey]

When it comes to the whistle being blown for a foul or ball being out of play, the rule in general should be: "No defensive player is allowed to touch the ball until the ball is back in play". Yes, there will be some cases of confusion as to who the defensive team is, but the vastly more clear-cut cases will break the habit quickly enough, lest a player is "taking one for the team", to leave the ref with far fewer, less clear-cut, cases to rule over.

Stop complaining about consistency, Arsenal is been robbed consistently

[@BrianConlon-ng5bw]

Stop complaining on KZbin. Call the Samaritans The international dialing code for the UK is 0044 Good luck

[@jameshamblin8440]

Have they taken this ref watch down as I can't find it

[@dcthomas8959]

You can apply "The letter of the law" but it only works when you have common sense.

[@stephanw3549]

I'm confused why referees and PGMOL continue to close ranks and try and gaslight fans into believing that they made the right decisions when they are clearly wrong. I think honesty and integrity would be much better received by all fans, if they held their hands up and apologised for making a mistake and said that they are trying improve they wouldn't get half as much grief as they do. Refereeing is hard and subjective, it's reasonable and expected that some mistakes are inevitable and will likely even out over the course of a season. It's the gaslighting, lying and closing ranks that means they are creating a rod for their own backs.

[@GeeksofMucklebee]

Mic the Ref and VAR should be on the live broadcast. No more secrecy. Referees should give post match interview / reviews and there should be accountability. Above all else, consistency. It should not matter who the clubs are, what ground you are at, what minute of the match or where on the pitch, apply the rules fairly and evenly.

[@liamstewart4978]

Absolutely despise Bruno but it’s never a red

[@ronniepeniel3828]

They will not delay so much on Indidi issue because it's against Arsenal. 😂

[@tris87don16]

Yeah Robbed that’s the word

[@garycongram6890]

Hey Gallagher you are taking rubbish, as usual ! please explain how kicking the ball away by Ndidi is not delaying the re start. The player has kicked the ball away from where the foul happened.Surely the fact that an Arsenal player has to run to where he kicked it and then bring the ball back to where the foul took place is longer than if the ball was left alone they could have ran to the ball and taken the free kick, that has to be quicker than having to retrieve the ball kick it to where the free kick took place. Why do SKY employ this moron and not someone like Keith Hackett. Gallagher has no credit with the fans. Is this SKY using DG to create controversy because it makes people talk about them.

[@903podcast]

Man unrd and arsenal always get the dodge calls i swear ! City or totyenham always het the rub of the green

[@innercircle341]

I really dont enjoy football like I once did. I barely enjoy it at all

[@SirAntoniousBlock]

It's absolute shit isn't it, VAR has ruined it.

[@innercircle341]

@@SirAntoniousBlock yup

[@stephenbristow3178]

As an arsenal fan, we can't say for definite we would have won them games with 11 men on the pitch, but we have been robbed of 11 verse 11, and them players missed 2 games

[@BrianConlon-ng5bw]

As an Arsenal hater i can definitely say that if whinging and crying was an Olympic Sport then you clowns would fill up your mums basements with Gold medals quicker than you do with your tears

[@MrFudge2016]

Mute point. I dont get why some people feel the need to come from this useless angle. Can you say for definite the results would have ended in a draw? You can't. Mute point. Only good point you made was being robbed of 11v11.

[@BrianConlon-ng5bw]

​@@MrFudge2016 Typical Arsenal plastic and weak Arteta fan boy He'll be telling us if Arteta played for a big UCL winning club or for his country and had signed Messi, Pele, Cruyff, Gyokores, Tom Huddlestone and Gemma Collins then Arsenal would of won the Carabao Cup in 2021 next...

[@MrFudge2016]

@BrianConlon-ng5bw lol what? Dude everything you said made no sense and has no correlation to the comments. Try saying this without being so salty and angry

[@bakaresurajudeen7871]

Bournemouth played a quick free kick to score the first goal against Southampton on Monday night while the fouled Bournemouth player was groaning in pain on the pitch.... I hope they will review this as well and let us know how that is unrelated to the Nididi one

[@nigeisfree7837]

And the ball was ten yards forward from where the foul was committed

[@RikRightArt]

Think this man is slowly becoming the best and most unbiased football pundit around. Its refreshing, the fans should come together regarding the referees we could make change the players and teams hands are tied. It’s on us to unite and try make a change they are killing the game..

[@komplex69]

I can’t find this episode of ref watch anywhere. Someone please help

[@atayohabib935]

That Said by Ref Gallagher, it means there is too much common sense in referring than the letter of the law

[@alexcoyg3281]

Then the consistency of City getting away with stuff will go

[@harryale]

They always test their stupid new rules on Arsenal. Then, after the outcry, they stop applying them, as they have done already. I think it's about time fans start to boo referees even before they start the game in protest over their poor and inconsistent decisions.

[@kwamegad]

100 per cent

[@ramsdaman1]

That’s what I was saying about straight after the rice incident we get a record breaking yellow cards dished out as if they were like we need to show we are being above board so cards for everyone loool

[@mushfiqbabu]

Lack of consistency, inconsistency - whatever way you want to word it, it's just a Code Word for "Selective Enforcement".

[@Cafez27]

Standard bearer for truth and consistency Terry well done…. Tribalism is irrelevant when it relates to poor refereeing…. It’s not a red card, it was daft

[@BrianConlon-ng5bw]

Another 2 bob plastic who thinks because he refereed a Subutteo game in Noddyland he knows the rules of the EPL...

[@rusticlemon1196]

What happened to ruling in the 'spirit of the game'?

[@nicklikethesoup]

The stupid thing is if a player is down and it wasn’t a facial injury, refs will play advantage, similar with taking a free kick. So why is this part of the analysis? So dumb.

[@BrianConlon-ng5bw]

Call the Samaritans Good luck

[@winapp22]

Careful terry! Might receive another letter from the PGMOL 😂😂😂

[@craigberkman1050]

The Rice thing should have been a throw in. When you look at it, Veltman takes the free kick quickly (and poorly), deliberately kicks it into the foot of Rice who was walking away, Rice then taps it out. Throw in. OR... the ref sends it back to Veltman and makes him take it again. Never a card of any sort. But it's incompetence rather than corruption I think.