Why NO ONE Plays: Pit/Dark Pit | Super Smash Bros. Ultimate

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Vars III

Vars III

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@bastianokamiro5421
@bastianokamiro5421 Ай бұрын
So pit in a nutshell: Pro: jack of all trades Cons: Too fair for his own good
@henkiestudios5117
@henkiestudios5117 Ай бұрын
He isn’t fair he can shied in the ait
@isgamer-8732
@isgamer-8732 Ай бұрын
​@@henkiestudios5117 only on the sides. Everyone can still juggle him because you can hit his feet. Or if he's off stage spike him because his head is also vulnerable.
@orangeslash1667
@orangeslash1667 Ай бұрын
@@isgamer-8732 Because Pit has three jumps he's more beginner friendly than Palutena. The downside is that you have to be more patient than Palutena to win matches.
@islemsissou7707
@islemsissou7707 Ай бұрын
​@@orangeslash1667 sorry to say that but do you only have copy past message or what ?
@henkiestudios5117
@henkiestudios5117 Ай бұрын
@@isgamer-8732 oh innocent lil bro thinking you can easily spike pit offstage with his broken recovery
@Evixyn
@Evixyn Ай бұрын
The driving the speed limit example is the most pit thing ever and it fits within his honest character trait, ha ha.
@amberknight7301
@amberknight7301 Ай бұрын
It’s an easy explanation. Playing Pit requires the player to actually be good at the game.
@N12015
@N12015 Ай бұрын
Indeed. No player can be good with Pit via not being good. His only cheese is the air shield, and that feels it is there to compensate his low aerial movility. A serious question, Is he a mid tier or a High tier? Because he's actually up there, in good part because his kit is overtuned to compensate the lack of an overwhelming strenght, specially after 8.0.0 where he got an actual up air for juggling.
@dagoodboy6424
@dagoodboy6424 Ай бұрын
​​@@N12015 he also has arrow offstage and dark pit side b. But i say if u play pittos u gatta worry about getting cheesed.
@yvngbrokeboi
@yvngbrokeboi Ай бұрын
​@@N12015 you mean this cheese? 9:20
@DSmith3279
@DSmith3279 Ай бұрын
So that's why nobody on elite smash uses him lmao 🤣
@N12015
@N12015 Ай бұрын
@@yvngbrokeboi That's also a big reason why Pit is not played so much. He works 19 out of 20 times, but that 20th instance feels quite awful. Combos sometimes fall out due to multihits and small hitboxes, reflectors sometimes don't reflect due to hitting your feet, an unreliable spike, and an exploitable recovery that will be punished if your semi-reliable moves fail to do their job. Don't get me started on Up-Air, that move straight up does not work if not rising due to awful multihits, and was needlessly laggy and weak before 8.0.0.
@real_abender
@real_abender Ай бұрын
Good job Vars, you've just invoked the wrath of the Vern Nation.
@Acid_Vixen
@Acid_Vixen Ай бұрын
The Vern Nation Frustration
@ignacioperez5479
@ignacioperez5479 Ай бұрын
Pit is fair. And that is the problem. Is a good guy who will never do anything to get an unfair advantage in a world of cheaters with 47 aces hidden in their clothes
@iponce2
@iponce2 Ай бұрын
Nice guys finish last. Poor Pits, they never stood a chance. 😔
@DSmith3279
@DSmith3279 Ай бұрын
"I'd rather lose with honor than to win dishonorably."
@sethhoeffner6814
@sethhoeffner6814 Ай бұрын
@@iponce2 Play Kid Icarus: Uprising and say that again.
@dzayir
@dzayir Ай бұрын
I love the Pits (especially Dark Pit) because they’re fun to play as. Playing them just means you have to actually play the game I think
@GBAer64
@GBAer64 Ай бұрын
Big Pit fan here. Playing some other characters who notably have to play very differently from normal, Pit is great to refresh myself and focus on fundamentals. It also allows me to better fight characters and understand the minute weaknesses and strengths to pinpoint/play around. Highly recommend playing Pit. I would say he's awesome for players to learn Smash Bros since his moveset offers a variety of different answers against different opponents. The multi-jumps from his wings also give you some leniency with landing. And he overall forces the player to win without any character-specific strngths.
@Nako3
@Nako3 Ай бұрын
I am having troubles understanding what you say because the voice is so echo-y
@joshuaturner4602
@joshuaturner4602 Ай бұрын
TLDW: pit is a solid allrounder but suffers from the fact that he has a fundamentally fair gameplan when beating your opponents with BS is the norm.
@alexandermcmillan8056
@alexandermcmillan8056 Ай бұрын
As a Lucina main the small segement on her hit hard. Pit and her just don't cut it in the land of DLC, Lucina took off because she had a frame 1 combo breaker and better mobility over all but droppped like a rock the second the meta advanced and DLC came in. Just unfortunate that at top level Pit becomes a master of none.
@mphmiles
@mphmiles Ай бұрын
Commenting while watching the video, but this is my opinion on it: Pit got a heavy rep throughout sm4sh for being VERY honest, and within the context of that game, he was. He just had decent/good buttons but not alot of great/amazing ones in that game, hence why he ended in the mid tier but still got wins on some of the best players in the world (Earth v Void). In ultimate however, he carried this stereotype throughout the whole game where he’s fundamentally a different character. Pre-8.0.0, I could agree somewhat even though I still thought he was underrated, but after the 8.0.0 buffs, a lot of his moves and kit got buffed as a whole, what seemed like micro buffs ended up making him a surprisingly strong, underrated character with a surprisingly good disadvantage especially for a sword character with an air shield, projectile, and multi jumps. I really think he’s very underrated and has a lot of dumb things, a lot of things strong about him that’re more than just “good/okay,” and he has specific things that don’t just transfer from other characters. He definitely has an execution barrier with optimal combos and kill confirms, strong projectile play despite not having an item, and has the ability to just get so many chances if he’s not outright ToD’d. You could compare it to sheik in a way imo although I don’t think he’s even comparable to most characters, even Palu, they’re not the same. When people compare him to other characters and think they’re one to one, it’s very hard to push the meta with the character, and that’s why I think people were very surprised with Zackray’s results with the character, almost winning S+/P tiers multiple times. Saying he’s a worse version of a character just disincentives people from playing him. I’m personally very passionate on this, and I believe Pit is very incredible.
@mphmiles
@mphmiles Ай бұрын
One more note is that I do think his hitboxes are blown outta proportion with how “bad” they are. Definitely deserves to be a lot better but with what you have, it’s definitely still very good on all of his moves, most notably nair. Being -6 and disjointed (most notably at the upper front portion) means you can get away with a lot of shield pressure, and you can still drift enough to avoid oos options if you know how to work around the shield (such as G&W up b)
@jamesjoe1690
@jamesjoe1690 Ай бұрын
What does he have that doesn't transfer to other characters?
@mphmiles
@mphmiles Ай бұрын
@@jamesjoe1690it’s not that he *doesn’t* have things that transfer between characters, but having good fundamentals alone does not make you good at Pit. But for what’s specific for him, it’s arrow play, mastering drag downs (they’re not inconsistent or fake, they require precision and understanding of the hitboxes), and if I want to get into it, mastering orbitars imo is a skill specific to him because no other character has an air shield. Pit’s combo tree is very extensive. :)
@maxspecs
@maxspecs Ай бұрын
The biggest issue Pit has is that Palutena literally does everything he does, but throws in extra traits like invulnerability, wind boxes, and extra range.
@plabcentral630
@plabcentral630 Ай бұрын
For y’all that have not played him, he’s mad fun and his game is fun as well.
@andrewjohnson46
@andrewjohnson46 Ай бұрын
Love this series and as a Pit main, it's true that he gives as good as he gets, nothing more nothing less. Also video #2 of me asking you to adjust your vocals processing/recording. It sounds like you're talking through a sock, and it's hard to understand you without headphones.
@iponce2
@iponce2 Ай бұрын
I just watched this without headphones, not a fan of people talking in my ears. He sounded pretty good to me. I watched it on my phone so the speaker quality is just ok. Where do you usually watch youtube?
@andrewjohnson46
@andrewjohnson46 Ай бұрын
​@@iponce2 I watch from my phone, a Pixel Fold, so the speakers aren't bad by any margin. Vars has a deep voice which adds a lot of rumble that makes him sound overall muddier and less intelligible. He enunciates clearly, but the majority of the frequencies in his voice sit in the low end which work against him. It's hard to pinpoint, but I've noticed it the most with end-of-word vowels transitioning to words that start with w or y.
@AegisZentix
@AegisZentix Ай бұрын
MY OLD MAIN in smash 4 and brawl! Can’t wait to see the whole video
@Max465
@Max465 Ай бұрын
As a Pit/Lucina main...I think this video is very...Fair
@SomniaCE
@SomniaCE Ай бұрын
Pit's arrows are without a doubt my fav projectile in Smash. While I miss the Brawl/P+ arrows that you could REALLY do some wild stuff with, using his arrows when edgeguarding or during offensive pressure feels super exciting. He's kind of like Ryu in a Street Fighter game in that yes he may not not be hype in the traditional sense, but he still has sauce and is still tons of fun to play and watch.
@Kiroto50
@Kiroto50 Ай бұрын
This is the thing. For a scholarship, you need As somewhere, anywhere, consistently. Pit and hole are B+ on _all_ subjects. They don't get a scholarship. Mr. Mishima, Steve, Batman's nemesis are C and C+, maybe B- in most subjects, but A+ in others. They get the scholarship.
@drewf8619
@drewf8619 Ай бұрын
As a, Pac-Man/Palu, Main... Watching the first 3 minutes of this video has me wanting to learn Pit!
@theenderkirby
@theenderkirby Ай бұрын
Despite not playing much of the pits I do prefer dark pit over normal pit
@andyboston3646
@andyboston3646 Ай бұрын
7:28 Correction : People used to spam Lucina on release as she is an easy, well rounded character for learning the game. I believe the reason you don't see her as much is because people go for Roy instead.
@hazza358
@hazza358 Ай бұрын
As a Pit main, I like all of these points. I main more Pit than Dark Pit due to the differences in their Arm and Arrow attacks (Pit's Arrows are easier to aim vs Dark Pit's harder hitting Arrows and Pit's Upperdash Arm launches foes upwards vs Dark Pit's Electroshock Arm launching opponents more horizontally away), but I do like to go with either one depending on how I'm feeling like tweaking the game plan or maybe even what opponent I'm facing. I very much enjoy the Orbitars when in the air, but they can be broken, so I have to be careful with that. Both Arm attacks have some super armor, allowing them to take very usually just one hit before they start flinching and being launched, so when the Orbitars break I might try to use that for recovery more until they come back (which they regenerate fairly quickly) though that might make me a bit more predictable in such a case. Even when they are usableI have to be careful, since they shield the sides, rather than above or below. I consider them a pretty good upgrade from his initial Mirror Shield in Brawl though for sure. Also yeah, his neutral air gets more joked on than it deserves. It's not the best looking one, and sometimes the big hit at the end that actually launches might not land for some reason, but it's effective as a disruptor if nothing else when it lands. Just one hit, even one, and you flinch unless you have super armor of some kind. And when you do have super armor, that's a quick flurry of hits, so it could easily break through most super armors. If you're able and willing to get up close and use it, I consider it a good move to stop attacks the wind up slowly or even just when you can see them coming with enough of an opening. It's also a good way to stop the enemy's momentum when they're recovering if used well. Maybe I like Pit and Dark Pit due to their generalist play style though. I tend to play fighting games by reactions when under pressure, focusing more than anything else about my immediate next step in response to whatever is currently happening rather than thinking several attacks ahead, and their kit lets me do that pretty comfortably so long as I put in the effort and time things well. It also makes sense that Palutena would be considered better by most. She does say after all "anything an angel can do, a goddess can do better", so it seems like they really followed through on that. Although I personally find Pit and Dark Pit easier to play after so many years of just playing her so much less.
@glacierbleuustone
@glacierbleuustone 14 күн бұрын
Dark Pit main here, and IMO the worst part about the character is the consistency of multi-hit moves. It’s not uncommon for foes to fall/pass through them, with neutral air and up smash being the worst offenders (in my experience). At the very least it’s the most bothersome 😅. Well that and also having his recovery not snap to ledge if you’re too close or facing the wrong way :(
@Morbius-Tension
@Morbius-Tension Ай бұрын
Dark pit actually somehow became my main simply because he has everything you need in a game like this not to mention his down b acting like another shield even in air
@TheDracolordian
@TheDracolordian Ай бұрын
Never thought I’d see my boi here
@LeeElement
@LeeElement Ай бұрын
I played Dark Pit for maybe a year long stretch in tournament. I mained Link from the start of the game so it was an interesting switch. I'll probably have to keep him around for Game & Watch at least.
@jeffreyfahie1502
@jeffreyfahie1502 Ай бұрын
Dark Pit main here, you hit the nail on the head.
@EvilNodos
@EvilNodos Ай бұрын
I don't know about you but Pit's hitboxes are incredibly consistent in the way that they drag characters with him and the situations the knockback from those moves affords you are just incredibly nice to use, as is his solid gameplay and the way you have to move around and predict your opponent and understand what they're trying to do to you. All of that makes his nuetral and the way he plays those scenarios unique and complex, for example when catching landings/whiffs with dtilt or nair to setup for a 30-40% combo that takes your opponent completely to the other side of the stage as well as having the flexibilty afforded by the consistency in his hitboxes to extend vertically to platforms then carry them even further offstage to ledge trap with some of the fastest and most consistent options in the game. Honestly I want you to TRY to make someone fall out of his fsmash because it is nearly fool proof with how it connects. Not to mention all of his moves are useful in one way or another and will have a use case for each of them. Overall Pit is an honest character but he has some of the best gameplay in the game at a fundemental level for all players of all skill levels to pick up and enjoy while also having an alternative in Dark pit for other use cases and scenarios a stronger arrow or horizontal knockback side b would be better in without having to change the entire overall gameplan
@EvilNodos
@EvilNodos Ай бұрын
Also his back air is actually INSANE, and I don't think you did it justice in this video 😂
@benross9174
@benross9174 Ай бұрын
All the bad Pit players complain about nair being mid cause they use it as a spacing move when thats not what the move is for. He has other moves for that. Pit nair is insanely good. Frame 4, beats spotdodge and airdodge, good edgeguarding tool since it lasts a long time, dragdown combos for damage and kill confirms and so on. If you ever see a Pit player complain about nair I usually assume they are bad at the game
@shuando7791
@shuando7791 Ай бұрын
Well, usually in Smash multihits are not super consistent Pit's nair doesn't have an angle known as Sakurai angle or the 361° nor the Autolink angle both of which calculates the little knockback and hitstun needed to connect the next part of the move til the finish To drag down an opponent you have to land with the upper front hitbox, which has more hitstun and also is the smallest one Usually Dragdowns aren't true with Pit unless we get like a specific hitbox and land right after we hit with that hitbox Up air has some consistency issues because it doesn't have the autolink angle, unlike Palu. The only move with full special angles is fair, BUT THE FIRST 2 HITS HAS THE SAKURAI ANGLE AND THE LAST HAS AUTOLINK, WHAT?? I agree with you by the fact he can combo from side to side and keep advantage, but Pit has to guess a lot Mindless back air to tomahawk is good, but it can be like Palutena's uncontestable bair to cover ledge jump, get up attack and ledgedrop aerials, Corrin Bair to autospace for you and even if you land the sourspot, still launches offstage, Chrom's with more coverage and 3 frames long Pit's back air is good, like Arsene back air levels of good if hit the one frame he gets cuz as soon as that one frame passes, the sourspot overlaps and is weak, sends diagonally up and, for some reason is -3? Pit just have to do more work, and i love it, winning a lot with him only says how good of a player you are, we love pit :)))
@EvilNodos
@EvilNodos Ай бұрын
​​@@shuando7791​ Totally agree but the guesswork comes from not being patient enough to find openings as Pit keeping some of his shortcomings in mind such as some wonky hitboxes, when it comes down to it I see him as a more reactive character that gets a good chunk out of what he does and he can feel very rewarding when playing well with him, as far as consistency I'm not really counting the drag down stuff as like you said it's specific and I was talking more about his general combo trees that are consistent because of the combo angles all of his moves send at and contribute to the rest of his kit working complimentary to each part of his kit that makes him an overall consistent character. As far as his back air goes I could write a whole essay about how good it is and useful when dealing with some short characters due to how he lands and pancakes making the opponents oos harder as most of them will be using their fastest aerial or a move that would hit regardless like Squirtle up b oos but even his oos can't punish it that consistently because it's frame 7 nair or frame 9 up b with shield being frame 1 😂 as well as like you said being -4/-3 on shield making it super safe and hard to punish for using as shield pressure, not to mention with the sour spot setting up situations that can be beneficial, like landing traps I mentioned in my comment with nair/dtilt turning into stage carry or popping characters up on a platform to tech chase with a frame 10 kill move that is also fairly consistent being up smash or getting the pickup with up tilt>up air/nair to edge guard/ledge trap. Overall a very solid underrated character with a myriad of options that kinda get looked over
@nextos
@nextos Ай бұрын
I feel this video is an apology for putting cloud i the most honest tier. Every time varrs says the words unfair or cheesed its a clip of cloud limiting someone into oblivion.
@HamidGhatel
@HamidGhatel 14 күн бұрын
You have betrayed the Vern-nation
@John_0306
@John_0306 Ай бұрын
Great video as always! I hope you will make one on Lucina soon, I’m interested in your thoughts
@samuelsimko4562
@samuelsimko4562 Ай бұрын
Mockrock is seething at this rn
@kevcopo
@kevcopo Ай бұрын
Let’s go a new no one plays just dropped ❤❤❤❤
@falorectic3219
@falorectic3219 Ай бұрын
The only guy with a sequel we need pithra oh wait
@slayerscorpmurichirobest-wq6fn
@slayerscorpmurichirobest-wq6fn Ай бұрын
Six seconds is abhorrent 😭 and by that I mean me being here that early I love bros content to much 😭😭
@HesBunz
@HesBunz Ай бұрын
😊💯
@fancymustache3793
@fancymustache3793 Ай бұрын
the problem with pit is hes so straight forward you have no idea what to actually go for to win. Its entirely dependant on the enemy and their choices which means you are basicly playing it by ear every game and its different for every enemy including other pits! that one especially your both just throwing shit out and seeing what sticks
@maxluffer3729
@maxluffer3729 Ай бұрын
please do diddy kong next
@A3TH3R-dj3hj
@A3TH3R-dj3hj Ай бұрын
As a pit player and playing against Palu players i can get why he's fair. yes he has down b and 3 jumps but bro cant kill or cheese
@TakeAway69
@TakeAway69 Ай бұрын
plus his moves are just too inconsistent, people fall out of nair and fair all the time. dair has a 1 frame weak spike hitbox and side b sometimes just goes through opponents that are right in front of him. up smash doesnt hit people standing on the ground in front or back and only above. so sometime even if you do find yourself in advantage the opponent might just get out of your hits and punish you for hitting them
@KingObliv
@KingObliv Ай бұрын
would you make a video on a character you already made a video on because Joker's #6 on the Placement Percentages from EazyFreezie and you made a nobody plays video on him
@MD-se8ft
@MD-se8ft Ай бұрын
Pit will be the next corrin
@gerasimosmenegatos7609
@gerasimosmenegatos7609 Ай бұрын
MockRock is coming to get you
@Supaluka_77
@Supaluka_77 Ай бұрын
Mockrock video!!!
@boogooog
@boogooog Ай бұрын
i remember when people wanted leo to play dark pit because zackary used regular pit
@ElAbsent
@ElAbsent Ай бұрын
The Pitboxes xd
@OddRick3113
@OddRick3113 Ай бұрын
stale white bread character, he's so jack of all trades and master of none, why play him
@cheezyboy2511
@cheezyboy2511 Ай бұрын
Your videos are excellent.
@BackgroundBrosRoblox
@BackgroundBrosRoblox Ай бұрын
When will this series end💀💀💀
@dylanl3942
@dylanl3942 Ай бұрын
Even Dark Pit plays fair...
@CupheadsChannel8
@CupheadsChannel8 13 күн бұрын
VEGETARIAN!
@victor-ng6hk
@victor-ng6hk Ай бұрын
Although the pits are good characters, in my opinion they require more effort than other characters, and since most people like the easy way or characters with cheese, they prefer not to use the.
@joy_124
@joy_124 Ай бұрын
Who is stupid enough (jk) to play an honest character in a world where you can be killed from 0% with one interaction?
@xophidious248
@xophidious248 Ай бұрын
Fox next!!!
@justinjumariburner
@justinjumariburner Ай бұрын
Man forget smash ultimate, we need KID ICARUS, my favorite game ever (uprising)
@ShadySandwich54
@ShadySandwich54 Ай бұрын
Why no one mains villager
@brooksyang5834
@brooksyang5834 Ай бұрын
I feel like more people would play him if the damn hitboxes actually matched up to the attacks and they worked properly
@jmurray1110
@jmurray1110 Ай бұрын
Cough nair
@benross9174
@benross9174 Ай бұрын
Nair is still a really good move; its just not a spacing move. He has other moves for spacing. Nair despite the hitbox being small still beats spotdodge and airdodge, its fast (frame 4 is really good) a decent antiair, a good edgeguarding tool since it sends out (unlike Palus) and it has dragdown combos for damage and even kill confirms. Nair is really good bad Pit players just use it wrong cause its not a spacing tool
@brooksyang5834
@brooksyang5834 Ай бұрын
@@benross9174 yea but like opps pop out constantly and drag downs aren't reliable like it's still a very good move but could just be one of the best Nair's in the game if it actually worked properly
@jmurray1110
@jmurray1110 Ай бұрын
@@benross9174 the issue is it has blind spot and is inconsistent with how well it can keep the opponent in
@rick-fl7ql
@rick-fl7ql Ай бұрын
Ain’t no way falco made the top 10 ☠️
@Spencer-sn8cz
@Spencer-sn8cz Ай бұрын
Why no one plays villager or yoshi pls
@criiis
@criiis Ай бұрын
not…. everyone… has played minecraft once or twice 🥲
@justyceromero942
@justyceromero942 Ай бұрын
Can you make a video why everybody plays sonic?
@walteranurantha5014
@walteranurantha5014 Ай бұрын
Do why everyone plays or why no one plays Pac Man next time😊
@plutonash2545
@plutonash2545 Ай бұрын
Obligatory "I play Dark pit ‼️" comment
@Biwul
@Biwul Ай бұрын
Pit is the most honest and cheesless character in the game 😅
@Florkl
@Florkl Ай бұрын
Your S sounds are a bit hissy. I want to watch this video, but with headphones it’s too much.
@captainphoton1693
@captainphoton1693 Ай бұрын
À good average character isn't 2.5/5 on everything. He is more like 3/5 on everything. Maybe even 3.5/5. (zssuminh the average character stats added up tegerthe end up being 2.5/5) A character that has a sole strength and some weakness will always have an advantage over someone without a specific streng, even if it doesn't come with a specific weakness. Obviously a jack of all traits should have some weakness. But it shouldn't be inherent one Stat being low. Like Pam in brawlstar. She does a lot of damage up close, but you can easly side step. She does decent damage afzr. But you can't side step. The best of both world is mid range. She has a lot of hp. She can heal overtime. She can burst heal. She can control space. She Has here héla turet so she can tank damage with it. She can heal people afar from her, she can heal people close from her, she can steal ammunitions. Yhat sound amazing right? Yes it it. She is better than average in every way. But surprisingly she isn't all that good. You can destroy her heal turret. You can side step her close damage, you can flee so her weapon spread make here only good at sustain damage. Here heal is good, but most people can overdaleg it. She isn't all that fast and she can't deal the damage in one go so her hp is required instead of a proper perk. She Is a jack of all trait, she is good every where, more than average. She has more power point than the average character. But tat does make her the best anywhere, nor the best at all. As she still has weaknesses on all of her stats. Because none are 5/out of 5. Now imagine if instead of being 3 to 3.5 out of 5.she was 2.5.she would be trash. That's pit tbh. It's a 1v1 game. So making him 3.5/5 would be too much. But making him 3/5 would make him a decent character. He has nothing that make him straight up better Tha other except his arrows. And the shields are his less honest trait, but that's not useful against everyone. And is cheesy at best. Making him 3/5 would make him A tier at best.
@bimothybonetwig6059
@bimothybonetwig6059 Ай бұрын
Skill issue or something
@zukosvfx
@zukosvfx Ай бұрын
early
@Giga_Whats
@Giga_Whats Ай бұрын
As a (Dark) Pit main, I love the character specifically because he’s a Jack of all trades; he’s got reflects, shields, light or heavy directional ranged attacks, speed, amazing recovery, “spikes”, a punishing back-air, dashes, generous smash attacks, and an almost unstoppable side special to boot just means that pit can do anything at anytime
@TakeAway69
@TakeAway69 Ай бұрын
the side b sucks it just goes through people or they shield it and kill you
@Aidan86BG
@Aidan86BG Ай бұрын
Pit is one of my most played characters, I agree with everything you said except Side B is just plain garbage, but it's like gambling it's just good enough to where you always risk using it, then you get burned for it.
@Giga_Whats
@Giga_Whats Ай бұрын
@@Aidan86BG I’m not sure if it’s an elo thing or just having good timing but even online I can generally hit my side B’s, especially if it’s a ranged player that doesn’t realize side B can deflect projectiles
@Matanumi
@Matanumi Ай бұрын
I think thbsmaah attacks aren't as good as everyone says
@Bankai2169
@Bankai2169 Ай бұрын
His spike is satisfying to hit for me because you have to aim and time it perfectly to land it
@christianbowdre1469
@christianbowdre1469 Ай бұрын
Been playing Pit since Brawl, and I can say that I've called King of Mid in my friend group as far back as I can remember. He's my go-to character whenever I pick the game up despite Robin technically being my main. He's just a really comfortable pick, and I'll stick with him. I will agree though, aerial Guardian Orbitar has let me get away with some actual war crimes...
@danielferrieri7434
@danielferrieri7434 Ай бұрын
We SERIOUSLY need another Kid Icarus Game.
@Yiasi_G
@Yiasi_G Ай бұрын
OR a Switch port of Kid Icarus Uprising. That game is too amazing to be stuck on the 3Ds (even though I love the 3Ds).
@timjim7163
@timjim7163 Ай бұрын
I wonder when or if Sakurai will ever get to direct something that isn’t smash again… Ofc, it doesn’t have to be him directing another one but I can’t help but wonder
@ArclinusCastoral
@ArclinusCastoral Ай бұрын
Now that Masterhero Soccerguy is done directing new Smash games, maybe he has time to revive his pet projects. Nintendad is a stickler for sales, though, and Kirby does better than KI, but maybe he can talk them into it after slavishly working on 3 extra Smash games he didn't want to do.
@orangeslash1667
@orangeslash1667 Ай бұрын
@@Yiasi_G I recommend Owl Boy as a successor to Kid Icarus.
@plabcentral630
@plabcentral630 Ай бұрын
Sadly will not happen.
@Team-Eclipse6024
@Team-Eclipse6024 Ай бұрын
I would say that the pits benefited heavily from balance updates than most people think. If they were in the state they are now at the beginning of the game, they would have been more popular. By the end of the balance updates most people had chosen a main at that point, unless they later pivoted to a dlc character.
@GameWatch-xu6sb
@GameWatch-xu6sb Ай бұрын
Can't wait for the SSBU Why NO ONE/EVERYONE Plays series to continue further. Thank you, Vars! ✌️
@sliced8669
@sliced8669 Ай бұрын
Pit and palutena are not the same character. they can be compared sure but they’re but they’re vastly different in terms of execution? Movement, tools, etc Also saying “oh if you want this trait just play x character!” That’s not how the game works, that’s like saying to “why play Lucina now when Corrin exists” yes they’re swordies, but Corrin is slow as hell, can barely edge gaurd and doesn’t have an OOs game outside of footstools For pit, I’m not gonna play Mario, terry or kazuya because they are different , more up close characters with entirely different weaknesses to eachother Edge guarding, mk’s neutral is linear. puff has barely any ground game and dies to everything. pika is very execution heavy and even more precise than pit, and Lucas (????), like LMAO If that’s truly something I want to prioritize sure(?) but you truly cannot say that about characters in this game, they’re all unique Sometimes the well roundedness is what people want, the vast variety of tools and use cases of those tools Pit’s strengths are greatly devalued by people who don’t play him or just don’t know anything about him as a character. ESPECIALLY his kill power, kill confirms and damage dealing which you were very wrong about
@patricialock1862
@patricialock1862 Ай бұрын
Daily reminder to play Kid Icarus: Uprising if you have access to it
@Zigzorark
@Zigzorark Ай бұрын
He’s too honest. Who wants to play the *HONEST* character in a world where Joker or Sonic or DK exist?
@mphmiles
@mphmiles Ай бұрын
He’s not honest in ultimate, that’s his 4 counterpart.
@Alibaba-id1cs
@Alibaba-id1cs Ай бұрын
Honesty in a dishonest game is not real lmao Especially for an actual high tier character
@dogyX3
@dogyX3 Ай бұрын
Exactly, just play ROB, his up air is just better, and his nair is bigger and safer.
@vannsylten6765
@vannsylten6765 Ай бұрын
Pit just lacks the special sauce. Maybe if he learned to read…
@sliced8669
@sliced8669 Ай бұрын
Because they like what pit offers and don’t like the other characters
@jessiesalerno3545
@jessiesalerno3545 Ай бұрын
As a Pit main who is recently getting back into smash the timing on this video is impeccable- LOL
@sa-x4213
@sa-x4213 Ай бұрын
I personally think pit throughout Zackrays skill finally showed the potential of the character in good hands , like I wouldn’t be surprised if Japan thinks it’s high tier , I understand why people from this part of the world would think it’s less when they gravitate towards characters with more cheese and other factor would be the fun part of characters ; which it would be appealing to use others instead of pit , i personally think pits strengths are less obvious that they seem , Zackray it’s incredible yes but I also think that after more than a year of being present with the same highs he gets , it shows that this character can be something in the meta , specially for a straightforward plan , people should be used to it by now but he still doing it again and again and that to me shows that the character it’s high tier but unlike other characters , you are not gonna have the fun and reward of others in certain areas .. to close this out , I would say everytime I watch zackrays pit , he just getting better and more comfortable with the character , it’s fun to watch the evolution of it
@----x-----
@----x----- Ай бұрын
"he's competent, fair and doesn't have frustrating over rewarding BS" is the best compliment any character can be given and Smash would be much better if the devs didn't give up on balance after just one year and managed to get everyone to that level he's a character that truly reflects the skills of its player in a fair way so of course many would rather be carried by top tiers instead
@Avabees
@Avabees Ай бұрын
I really want a game where pit is notable
@Aidan86BG
@Aidan86BG Ай бұрын
Pit forces you to play honest and play the whole game, but he makes it easier to do that than with almost any other character.
@smashdriven1640
@smashdriven1640 Ай бұрын
Dark Pit is actually much more powerful that most people think because of his ability to edge guard off stage with electroshock. It kills extremely early off stage. The only thing that holds him back when edge guarding is that people can go up and over him since he doesn’t have any tall vertical attack options.
@Tolinar
@Tolinar Ай бұрын
7:47. Because Palutena is *a hottie*. If Pit were a girl, she'd be played more
@llamaeatsramen5769
@llamaeatsramen5769 Ай бұрын
4:59 that’s gotta hurt
@CipherKnighto
@CipherKnighto Ай бұрын
Pit isn’t really as honest as most people make him out to be. But yeah he does have few gimmicks in a game where that’s full of them. Maining him may as well be the same as working a part time job
@eyyy2271
@eyyy2271 Ай бұрын
Honestly, really want them to lean into rushdown for their moveset, their redesign since brawl is incredible.
@CaptinOD
@CaptinOD Ай бұрын
I’ve been waiting to see your take on Pitt. I knew the answer but still hoped I’d find some shining light for him 😅
@orbitsquidy
@orbitsquidy Ай бұрын
pit main here, and yeah the results you get just kinda plateau after you know his combo strings & get comfortable with his moveset. you just kind of check a bunch of boxes when playing and dont do anything outstanding, but for some reason i find him more fun than most characters to play. If he excelled at even 1 area, he would be infinitely better. for my Dungeons and Dragons players, pit is what happens when you roll up your character and get average numbers across the board, so he doesn't excell at anything, even the things he was supposed to be good at. Somehow i still enjoy playing him though, hes fun but you never feel like your reaching as high as you could with him
@paulbrown9328
@paulbrown9328 Ай бұрын
Pit is just a character that is hard to have sauce and fun with. His most fun tool is arrows. But in a game where there is 60+ characters that have fun mechanics and move sets pit just gets tossed to the curb. The most unique thing about him is his air shield and it being a defensive makes it less fun to play with.
@NashTheChill
@NashTheChill Ай бұрын
It’s funny to always think that Mario is the jack of all trades master of none But he’s that for the brawler that’s in smash While pit really shows the Jack of all trades master of none of none is for the swordies Which is funny to think that because he has projectiles and most swordies don’t but He really embodies both roles in my opinion very well And my favorite thing about fair characters is that if you lose to someone playing a fair character, you just lost. No if ands or buts
@dagoodboy6424
@dagoodboy6424 Ай бұрын
He not bad but not great. U gatta be good at not getting cheesed cuz unless they offstage or cant handle pits side b u aint cheesin nobody. Also td my birthday.🎉
@joelpaultre7440
@joelpaultre7440 Ай бұрын
This reminds me of a video I saw about card games titled "Fair Decks Don't Win."
@thewarrior8497
@thewarrior8497 Ай бұрын
A why Everyone/Nobody plays video on Pacman, Yoshi, and Diddy kong would be cool
@rick-fl7ql
@rick-fl7ql Ай бұрын
We need a why everyone plays wario and or ryu
@CameronFulkerson
@CameronFulkerson Ай бұрын
MockRock would say “it’s the hitboxes!!!!”
@somenerd8401
@somenerd8401 Ай бұрын
I heckin LOVE this series! Love your content man, every time you post I get fukin hyped.
@pietrobrattico9272
@pietrobrattico9272 Ай бұрын
As always, exceptional video
@JadeGween
@JadeGween Ай бұрын
I main Dark Pit 😅
@thewarrior8497
@thewarrior8497 Ай бұрын
You should make a video on Pacman and Yoshi :D
@dolphee
@dolphee Ай бұрын
Vernias
@dementedgastly5050
@dementedgastly5050 Ай бұрын
I really hated how Zackray just became the best Pit immediately while players like Raze and Glory just were just ignored. Also the rise in placement on the tier list was funny as well. It's almost as if mid tiers can do well with good players???
@Yungkenjifan
@Yungkenjifan Ай бұрын
I love these videos
@kirbydude667
@kirbydude667 2 күн бұрын
He’s probably the least hateable smash character
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