Vaults of Terra - (Horus Heresy) Lion El'Jonson

The Vaults of Terra return with a video about the life of the first legion's Primarch, Lion El'Jonson, from his arrival on Caliban to his final fight.
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[@Redem10]

Lion EL true toment was that he couldn't find a shampoo that could properly wash his luscious hair

[@TheDarkkilla12]

You're thinking of Sanguinius. He gave Lion hair tips.

[@Redem10]

+TheDarkkilla12 Nah Sanguinus hair were naturally clean and impervious to dirt

[@alexandereden8911]

+Redem10 fulgrim then

[@marcdonnellan8730]

+Alexander Eden Deffo fulgrim lol

[@blackriderbob8053]

Into the fires of battle, unto the anvil of war

[@MrCouchmen]

+BlackRider Bob Salamanders?

[@Safeguard1]

I really like that picture of The Lion with the huge axe, that's pretty bad ass.

[@TheCthultist]

For those just now learning about the Primarchs from these videos, years after their release, it should be noted that the Lion has now officially awakened and returned to the fold of the Imperium.

[@leopoldjenkins]

This is the best videos on the Lion I've seen on KZbin. Awesome work chap

[@cucappo]

great videos Ed. you give a very clear and concise history of the primarchs. keep them coming man! thanks

[@ebenezer1690]

Wonderfully done as always

[@reynaldolongjr611]

Been waiting for this series. Keep up the great work!

[@tacticaldurrie1904]

absolutely magnificent, keep up the great work

[@CGossRunnn]

I like how you are doing them in order but damn this means I have to wait forever for my favourite (Alpharius Omegon)

[@kingbaldwiniv5409]

Wonderful video again! I really enjoy this primarch series, it is a great collection of enjoyable and digestible fun. I will doubtlessly watch all of them. A couple of bits about my favorite primarch however: 1-You mixed up the events of the reinstatement of the librarius with the battle and scornful words of Kurze. In "The Lion", found in "The Primarchs", Lion El' Jonson is contemplating the meaning of Kurze's words after his armor and wounds had since been healed when the unusual attack from the Night Lords cruiser unleashes the warp on the Invincible Reason, necessitating the reinstatement of the librarius. 2-Also, The Lion paused in combat against Luther, unwilling to strike down his old friend. This is when the psychic attack takes place. Thanks again for the great work!

[@ThunderingJove]

Great work! Thanks!

[@joshtara7250]

love it great job brother.

[@baxterschumacher9186]

dude I love this keep these coming!!

[@Dead94820]

I can't wait for the RollPlay I loved JP's Horus Heresy RP and I'm sad it's gone for now, I believe JP said that its up to TB, TB said that he wouldn't be able to do it for like 4 hours at a time. Yet he does Co-optional which is 3 at the most...

[@MrEltonjan]

looking forward for this series!

[@Blue-nn1oh]

Love you Ed, love the Vaults of Terra. I wish I could participate in the Dark Heresy role play, but the warp distortions preclude it.

[@pkthtguy587]

Every time you make a Video I stop everything I'm doing to watch it :3

[@skitkjell85]

I love this series. And I love everything you have put up so far, but pleeease! Don't forget the 13th Penal Legion "Last Chancers"! Just a request ^^ Imperial Guard chapter though.

[@newhoped]

Lion isn't the only known living Primarch, Gulliman is alive although badly hurt.

[@VaultsOfTerra]

+newhoped He is in temporal stasis, so technically trapped at the moment of his death. Techinically not living and breathing

[@Schorfsee]

+Nathan Holstrom Sure? May be it´s Alpharius who is in stasis setting another trap? ;)

[@thedarkmaster4747]

+The Vaults of Terra but he is slowly healing.

[@lizrenarts7487]

Volken and Leman are missing, not sure if that counts.

[@lizrenarts7487]

Nathan Holstrom Forgot them too.

[@himonearth4328]

lionel looks quite like charlie sheen from about 4:03 until 6:27

[@cucappo]

love your videos, keep it up

[@jadovaoliaro]

Moaar Primarchs please!

[@elasolezito]

+Benerro Moquorro Mortarion !

[@BadWolfJK]

Finally I've been waiting for this...

[@rzmonk76]

Great job thank you

[@Ralndrath]

Have you read the Unforgiven trilogy by Gav Thorpe? spoiler: in that it's heavily implied that the destruction of Caliban was caused by the future Dark Angels after they tried to go back in time to prevent it. Being manipulated by Cypher into doing it. The alien device on the Rock and a similar device held by the Deathguard allowing them too.

[@mwinters7920]

hi just subscribed and love the videos, was just wondering do you have an a date for the Corvus Corax video yet as very anxious to watch that one, raven guard are a personal favorite of mine and so true that they are understated in the lore.

[@superhooper9490]

Recall this is your fav legion right Ed? U have good taste these guys are awesome. Pity Luther was treated like crap by the lion :( is that Luther at 9:50?

[@VaultsOfTerra]

+Super Hooper No, it's not (PS BLOOD Angels fan, not Dark Angels, make that mistake again and you lose 50 Vaults of Terra points)

[@randomrealistictone2231]

+The Vaults of Terra Can you do the story of Mariael Sabathiel PLEASE!

[@Partyffs]

+The Vaults of Terra Blood angels....don't you mean Blood Ravens? :3

[@superhooper9490]

+The Vaults of Terra I WILL MAKE MY PENANCE ON THE BATTLEFIELD! sorry had a bit of that black rage:p

[@VaultsOfTerra]

+PARAMOTH Not for a long time, but it may be done one day.

[@mattbarnes9296]

during the battle with Kurze, the lion did find him and slit his throat aboard "the invincible reason". But Kurze did not die. He "Recovered" and made a tactical blunder that caused him to flee, and his first company to be trapped aboard the ship. As a result of this, over 70% o the Night Lords Legion was lost.

[@krimson4980]

good video. For the LION!

[@invinciblereason1618]

You are a good person.

[@leopoldjenkins]

I wish I could like this twice

[@Gargantuloth]

Well i knew that lion el johnson was always a little paranoid.... This explains why the dark angels were always kinda reclusive

[@deathpimp1234]

Love the vid :)

[@zeanamush]

the poem is pretty beautiful too.

[@amaranth7777]

Still the silliest name for a Primarch imo

[@volkxx]

+amaranth7777 as much as i like my dark angels i agree

[@MrBlueBurd0451]

+kahzhoex Corvus Corax. Literally the taxonomic term for 'Raven'.

[@vash128]

+Somillian i must agree Corvus Corax is the silliest, even though he is great :) still suits the character though. Leman Russ and Rogal Dorn are by far the best imo

[@hanng1242]

+vash128 Sillier than Ferrus Manus, "Iron Hand" (singular)?

[@MrBlueBurd0451]

Han Ng I'd say that Corvus Corax and Ferrus Manus are tied in the lead for silly names.

[@battenro]

I don't know about the Lion when it comes to the Heresy. Sometimes, while reading the Heresy series, you get the feeling that the Lion was waiting to see who would win.

[@ethanfleming6053]

So good

[@WarwickMcGhie]

Interesting i remember reading black library books that implied that the marines left on calliban were not corrupted by chaos but that the rift between lion and luther was there because the lion did not trust the calliban based marines over the new legion.

[@mcewan134]

I know this has nothing to do with Loin El Jonson or the dark angels, shouldnt the blood angels be considered heritics because of the blood rage and the black rage? these always sounded like aspects of Korne to me so could the blood angels be tainted with chaos and be part of a long drawn out plan of the chaos gods? Also love the channel and im so happy to see it growing so much :)

[@benkai09]

A few thing, when he was found by luthor he appeared to be a younge boy, somewhere around 8-10 range. It is never stated that Luthor worships chaos directly, it was the Terra legionnaires that did, Astalan the First captain of the Dark Angels fired the first shot of the battle of Caliban and the fortress monastery was named The rock well before the Primarch landed on the planet. Also its said by Astalan I think that the Lion was the only Primarch not to have grown up around Humans so he never trusted anyone properly always expecting them to try and kill him at some point

[@LesterRamos]

It's recent revealed that Zahariel and his Mystai were the Chaos worshippers (unknowingly).

[@benkai09]

yeah not read AoC yet but it was pretty much outright said at the end of the last one but gawd damn spoilers!!!!

[@LesterRamos]

The hints were there. Many have speculated as such. Now the question remains if this is the same Cypher we know as of the 41st Millenium.

[@Chris-yz7cs]

Hey ed love your content, how often can we expect primarch vids? And do you have juicy info about the two forgotten legions?

[@VaultsOfTerra]

+chris mcdonald The Primarch Vids, like all the others, will be as rapid as I can make them (which is not fast, as most know), but I'll do my best.

[@thetalkj.e.t.5377]

+Chris McDonald. . Let me tell you juicy info of the 2nd legion.... THEY ARE THE ANGRY MARINES!

[@FaeAngst]

That's funny I just recently re watched the dark angel videos

[@mancat4840]

Holy shit! A Horus Heresy video! Now i can just link this to friends when they ask me about shit. :D

[@danis8455]

Lion kinda my fave primark :P how he tells chaos to fuck off is so awesome :P

[@SuperSaiyanMaze]

Do not be deceived, for Ed has woven lies into his tale of the Lion. I shall tell you the truth, for it was the Lion who had turned to Chaos, not Luthor. Think about it. Lion El'Johnson was famed for his strategic brilliance, his swiftness of assault. Yet he arrived _just_ too late to help fight the Warmaster? Very inconvenient timing, or a strategic move by one who planned to swoop in and side with the winner? Had Horus won, then he would have immediately moved to assault the fleeing loyalists, rest assured. Luthor figured out his treachery, and made a foolish but noble decision to attack the corrupted Primarch and his loyal astartes, but failed. The Ruinous Powers simply shattered the planet to hide away their secret weapon for the end of the Imperium. Think about it, why would a xenos race care about helping humanity, when humans so vehemently reject the lives of xenos...unless those humans, or astartes, were not truly loyal to the Imperium? Now you know the truth. The Lion was the traitor, and Luthor a desperate, but loyal, fool.

[@sekireialpha]

+SuperSaiyanMaze get out of here heretic, nobody wants to hear your damned lies.

[@hanson666999]

+SuperSaiyanMaze I'm going to need two Bolters for this heresy

[@SuperSaiyanMaze]

Your blind faith deludes you. Did not the Lion meet with a daemon of Tzeentch? Who's to say what really happened, in that moment when only those loyal to the Lion were present.

[@sekireialpha]

and we heard all of this from heretics and marines who turned from the light of the emperor, so leave with your heresy.

[@SuperSaiyanMaze]

***** The Emperor may protect, but the Lion shall not. The first Primarch is the Chaos filth, not I.

[@utubenoobie01]

"And lo, they descended upon pinions of fire and light, the mighty yet terrible Dark Angels" - Luther. Upon seeing the Dark Angels Space Marines arrive on Caliban for the first time. For The Lion and For The Emperor The Emperor Protects

[@Litany_of_Fury]

DO EM IN ORDER even though my chosen is 20

[@vali6717]

I know this will most likely never be answered but is there any chance we will see more chapters videos? In particular I am interested in the Raptors/ the Raptor Legion, and possibly the Exorcists, a chapter who have the rather peculiar practice of deliberately having their aspirants possessed by lesser demons during augmentation.

[@MrTolgarion]

Please update to include new lore from angels of caliban and the primarch leman russ. Also position for warmaster was a race between the Lion and Horus and that is per Roboute.

[@VaultsOfTerra]

Eventually, I have a lot more to work on.

[@MasterCrawford343]

Ed, would it be possible to do something like this for the Named Eldar Heroes and Phoenix Lords?

[@caos1925]

so far in all of these the Emperor arrives shortly after the Primarchs cleanse their planet or conquer it. I wonder if he was just watching thinking "Is this really one of my sons? Oh he just did *that* yep he is.

[@KrautGoesWild]

If Abaddon´s 13th Black Crusade wasn´t enough, when WILL the Lion rise again??

[@hederachyorozuya9593]

Emperor's first born and his potential mini-me, LION for LIFE dogfuckers!!!! haha

[@ROIBR]

could u make a vid about the watchers in the dark?

[@TheEyez187]

Could the Emperor, mankind's greatest psychic, not sense the jealousy and growing hatred, which would lead to betrayal, that Luther had against his son Lion'el?!?!

[@doomed2063]

It was all part of his great plan, even the Horus Heresy and his 'death' and internment within the Golden Throne. The Emperor as foreseen all and has carefully directed the course of events up until the present.

[@TheEyez187]

It was his great plan to rid mankind of, and their belief in religion/s, so he could become worshipped as a religious figure and make humanity more religiously fanatical and zealous than they ever had been in the 45,000-odd yrs of his existence?! The False Emperor is a fool if he believes he can direct humanity ro a peaceful, manifest destiny; him, his empire and all mankind will fall to ruin or burn with the rest of the galaxy!!! Hail the Ruinous Powers!!!

[@UsedGames]

Those watchers better be just doing that. Watching and not touching themselves while the lion is sleeping lol

[@kosmiclawyer]

NEVER FORGIVE NEVER FORGET! the lion is the badass

[@dartigeres4214]

chaos did not create the warp storm, the warp device on the invincible reason/the rock did. That was revealed in the last dark angles book.

[@johnhunter3449]

I wonder when he'll wake up cause it's been fucking ages for a 'nap'.

[@kasag37]

read the short story "Savage weapons" .

[@DLAlucard]

Well it's good to hear you are getting such an active bulk of submissions for this Dark Heresy game. I really can't wait to see how the team turns out. That said, when you upload the game to youtube may I make a suggestion for something you might want to include with each video in the description. What I'm talking about is the Name of the player, their character and that character's class. It may seem silly but I've seen the comment section of some Role Play games and you seem to get a good few that always asked those kinds of questions about the main characters. That way you can just tell them to look in the video description or let them find it themselves. Plus if or when you get deaths in the campaign you could maybe make a 'List of the Fallen' to keep track for people that are interested that could include how they died. Heck you might even go so far as to add the list to the last video like credits.

[@cowboy0776]

The Lion exiled most, if not all of the Terran marines under his command back to Caliban, mainly because he didn't trust them. He kept the Calibanite marines with him, however.

[@VaultsOfTerra]

+cowboy0776 I believe it was the other way around, but if you can cite a source I can issue a correction. Thanks.

[@DamnedUsernameThing]

+cowboy0776 What? Zahariel and Luther were Calibanites and they were sent back to Caliban. Nemiel, Zahariel's cousin, was allowed to go on the Crusade.

[@deathwing316]

GLORY FOR THE LION THE FIRST BORN!!

[@Japsae]

yes yes yes yes!

[@RW-Navigator]

the image at 4:00 .... Is that... Evan Stone?!

[@DJSummerDM1]

with all the new canon that has come out.. he is chaos flith... nothing more

[@randomrealistictone2231]

Can you do the story of Mariel Sabathiel PLEASE!

[@TitoReni]

+PARAMOTH *Miriael Sabathiel ;) And yes, it would be awesome... mmmh... chaos sororitas... :D

[@randomrealistictone2231]

TitoReni Yes

[@thedarkmaster4747]

+TitoReni yes it would.

[@thomasmoore9987]

Random Realistic Tone we're all Alpharius tho

[@TitoReni]

In my opinion, the Lost Primarchs were ones who didn't want to join the Emperor because of some disagreements. It would be a nice conexion if Sigmar was one of the Lost Primarchs (the second one, in my opinion, number 2 fits better). What do you people think about this idea? Also, the other one could be allied with the C'tan, like a necromancer or something like that (like, in the beginning, he was allied with machines, causing a discord with the Emperor about Artificial Intelligence). Anyway, another nice subject would be an alternative version where the loyals are the traitors and the traitors are the loyals (like in the Dornian Heresy). Which Primarch would serve to each Chaos God and which ones would serve to Chaos Undivided?

[@TitoReni]

Nathan Holstrom Yes, true... interesting fact. ;)

[@edwardennett234]

How do you feel about the changes in fluff from the Legacy of Caliban series, and the Wolf King.

[@sirderik]

dam...calling russ a lap dog....well i know whos inide became its outside.

[@joubas]

I don't like Lion so much I am more of a Blood angels. I would like to just say that there is also a nice story told by Astelan when he was interrogated by Boreas about Lion(anyone can believe what he likes). Anyway great video man keep up the good work.

[@RedPilgrim.]

Silent Sisterhood :)

[@paulfuente87]

What are your sources? I would love to read up more.

[@kinghunter74]

What about Gulliman? I thought he was wounded by Fulgrim and stuck in stasis so he is technically counted as still alive right?

[@leakycheese]

Good video as always Ed, thanks. However, I really have to call out your pronunciation of Nicaea, which is odd even by your standards! Sounds like Ikea with an 'N' at the start.

[@VaultsOfTerra]

+leakycheese That is because there are two spellings of the world, Nikea and Nikaea. I use the first one in my script, and the pronunciation bled over into the video. The second spelling is correct to distinguish it from the real council of Nicaea in 325 AD, but Nicaea is phonetically correct.

[@camojarvis111]

Hey Ed do you have any idea when the lions model will be released ?

[@VaultsOfTerra]

+cameron jarvis I don't work for GW, so no.

[@darthpanzer]

+The Vaults of Terra Or do you? Dun dun dun.......

[@VaultsOfTerra]

No

[@darthpanzer]

+The Vaults of Terra That's exactly what an employee would say! I'm watching you........ Keep up the vids man :D

[@solotravelbytoy]

Lion betray us, now we become fallen

[@onelividguardsman5681]

favorite primarchs 1. perturabo 2. mortarian 3. magnus

[@legionofthedammedmarine6146]

i love your voice. you are epic

[@danuk459]

The only think I don't understand about the Lion (And this is mainly based off of Decent of Angels) is that when we see him leading the order he is kind, guiding and caring to those below him. Yet shortly after the Emperor arrives and he is placed in charge of the I legion he turned into a complete idiot (I would use other words, but being kind :) ) I don't understand how in such a quick amount of time he can be so kind and the next moment being a watered down version of Angron in his care for others.

[@sirpharsys6541]

+Pyre Captain Daniel I dont think he was described as an "ass"... But it was stated, that he disliked the "lack of nobility" that the Emperor's Crusade meant...I guess he just lost all passion...

[@WarsmithBob]

+Nathan Holstrom : If I remember correctly, the Lion told the librarian kid that he had known the Watchers in the Dark for a long time, not the Cabal. And that the reason that Caliban was the Death World of Death Worlds was that they had Malal (or a REALLY powerful daemon that was nigh unto a baby chaos god) locked away in the core of the planet and the Watchers had contained his influence to a few areas deep in the forest, where the concentrated warp energy would almost instantly twist any psykers drawn to the power into the Great Beasts of Caliban.

[@sirpharsys6541]

Nathan Holstrom And as it stands now the Watchers are "watching over" both Luther and the Lion in the depths of the Rock...

[@barriball28]

have you ever uploaded a video on nathaniel garro?

[@VaultsOfTerra]

+CRITICAL DISRUPTION not yet, the charecter videos will come after I do everything else/

[@barriball28]

+The Vaults of Terra can't wait. Garro has my vote

[@JayPlaysModern]

I have a question, Why is Lion El'Jonson the first primarch if Horus was found first? What's the significance of the numbering and what's it attributed to?

[@thatweirdguyinthecorner2953]

+Corvus The Lion is the first primarch because his legion was the first created

[@JayPlaysModern]

Really? I thought they were all created at the same time.

[@thatweirdguyinthecorner2953]

+Corvus Well they grew in numbers around the same time but the first geneseed ever created was that of the Dark Angels

[@STEFAN9484]

when the last battle will be ?

[@ShootingStar1313]

Regarding Dark Angels lore, did any fallen/unforgiven marines ever get accepted back into the chapter? Or are they all tortured and killed when found?

[@VaultsOfTerra]

+ShootingStar The second option, although the torture is so they repent before they are killed, so they can be forgiven in death.

[@ShootingStar1313]

Ah yes, grimmdark to the very end. One other thing that always bothered me is how the hell are the fallen still alive? I know space marines have a long lifespan but the fallen would have to be around 10,000 years old?!

[@VaultsOfTerra]

Warp magic, they were thrown through time as well as space, so none are 10,000 years old. Like chaos marines, few are actually 10,000 years old. Subjectivly for some the Siege of Terra was only a few centuries ago, rather then 10,000 years.

[@ShootingStar1313]

+The Vaults of Terra Warp magic, the Bermuda triangle of 40k. Thx for answering btw, I figured you'd send me to the voxforum with all my damn questions :)

[@heraissilly]

+ShootingStar It is also technically possible however for fallen marines to join the deathwatch as no-names, so that no one knows who they really are.

[@Shogundoxie1414]

Are you going to go in numerical order with the primarchs Ed?

[@VaultsOfTerra]

+Donn Achtenberg I'm sure that is what I said at the start?

[@Shogundoxie1414]

+The Vaults of Terra you did, i must have missed that.

[@gcircle]

One thing I don't like about the Primarchs is how their powers seem inconsistent, as in, we don't know how superior they are to Space Marines. For instance, we had Luthor apparently hanging on for a while before using sorcery. Roboute Gulliman was also severely battered by that Word Bearers sorcerer before getting an opening. So it appears that Primarchs can't speedblitz Space Marines, and can be defeated by Librarian-level psykers. But then we have Angron who was killing Space Marine in droves with melee weapons, compared to the dozens of bolters that were probably fired at him. And finally, the Officio Assassinatorium (hope I spelt it right) tried to kill Horus and got pretty fucking close, their rifles could do the job if only they had a clear shot. Same thing for the Emperor: he one-hit-KO'ed Leman Russ but was struggling against a particularly large orc warboss.

[@wargolemx102]

+gcircle Well some primarchs just aren't that robust against warpcraft maybe. Gulliman just happened to have been hit immediately and couldn't recover. I expected more from him, but meh. Primarchs can really speedblitz Space Marines though, there are passages in novels that show their feats - ripping off tank turrets, punching throught tanks and marines inside said tanks, stopping plasma from a Warhound Plasma Blastgun, overpowering a Warhound's leg.

[@gcircle]

Terence John Lampasa I see, though it is probably what the previous commenter said: The authors doing whatever the hell they want.

[@sirpharsys6541]

+gcircle That may be true, but overall in almost every case of "not trampling" someone, warp sorcery was in play. Even with minor favours from the Gods, they can at least stand a chance to hold up a primarch, and serious gifts can actually make them worthy... Nothing beats Vulkan though... Because he is THAT awesome...And boy that Assassin Novel... That was fiiinee...

[@gcircle]

Sir Pharsys Vulkan is da man doe. "Winning a battle is for pussies. Winning a fight with the least possible innocent deaths, now that's for men!"

[@sirpharsys6541]

gcircle Not only that... But he is even indestructible... Literally...

[@zenthious666]

Incorrect, Ultramarine Primarch still lives :]

[@VaultsOfTerra]

+Michael Tynanes Being in stasis is not life, and many think he died the instant he got put into stasis.

[@zenthious666]

Hmmm

[@Satarcon84]

I thought Leman, Corvus and Vulcan are only missing and some people believe Roboute is slowly healing inside the his field

[@VaultsOfTerra]

+Satarcon84 But they are not confirmed 'alive', whereas the Lion is truly still alive.

[@Satarcon84]

So since there is no confirmation we can not be sure

[@Rostam40kArchives]

is there any lore on the 2 unknown primarchs?

[@VaultsOfTerra]

+Rostam 313 The little I have will go into a video.

[@Vatniks_are_clowns]

but is that reeeaaally what happened on Caliban?!

[@vi6ddarkking]

Roboute Guilliman from the Ultramarines is also technically alive in stases but alive right?

[@thetalkj.e.t.5377]

He has poison in his neck thnx to fulgrum the fracking slaneshi...........

[@invinciblereason1618]

1st Legion, Best Legion.

[@thehypest6118]

The Lion should have been made Warmaster, NOT HORUS

[@MRGODK1]

FOR VULKAN AND THE EMPEROR!

[@ICHBinCOOLERalsJeman]

+Gordon Kinnaird doesnt vulkan die like constantly`?

[@MRGODK1]

Yeah, but he's a purpetual, so it's all good

[@superhooper9490]

+ICHBinCOOLERalsJeman He just keeps on living

[@DarkSolace33]

MOOOOOAAAAARRRR PRIMARCHS! :)

[@MrChilliJalapeno]

What happened to Luther after the dark angels got to the Rock?

[@VaultsOfTerra]

+Mannerheim Imprisoned within the Rock.

[@MrChilliJalapeno]

+The Vaults of Terra Is he still alive in the 41st millenium or did he die in imprisonment? Also thanks for answering

[@alexandereden8911]

+Mannerheim he is likely still alive, as his cries can still be heard, but it's unlikely anything will happen with him.

[@MrChilliJalapeno]

+Alexander Eden I am hoping they advance the plot somehow like they did with warhammer age of sigmar. And then he can be used like how he is forgiven and he rejoins to fight alongside the empire and sacrifices himself in the end or something like that :D

[@MrChilliJalapeno]

+katthedemon can't argue with that. LAND MARINES

[@Dogofwar100]

Praise the Lion i guess!

[@michaellindoewood4420]

So what happened to Luther when the dark angles found him?

[@LesterRamos]

Luther was kept imprisoned on the Rock to be interrogated from time to time by the current Supreme Grand Master

[@Frosty-kz4om]

My question is why couldn't the Chaos gods just send warp storms to EVERY imperial force?

[@oxygencorrosion5640]

they couldn't be arsed to do it

[@achikinXx]

I thought he was named the lion or 'lion' el'johnson because of that calibanite lion he killed before Luther found him, and Luther took him in because he had killed a great beast at such a young age, at least that's how decent of angels portrayed it

[@dsummers5845]

right, that's how the story goes. But GW picked out the name after the author of a poem called "Dark Angel". The Lion on Caliban is fluff

[@djy8504]

Isn't Roboute still technically alive in stasis?

[@VaultsOfTerra]

+DJ Bisogno Sort of, But the Lion is the only one still present in the imperium, alive and breathing.