Your BUYING Milwaukee Tools M18 FORGE Battery with WRONG EXPECTATIONS (stop doing this)

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@philipdumas4435
@philipdumas4435 Жыл бұрын
Okay so what I am seeing, is do NOT purchase these if you already own HO batteries and are happy with them. These are for people who need to upgrade anyways, buy batteries for crews, or just like having the newest toys. I love my HO batteries, and would LOVE to see Milwaukee make a 12.0 with these to cut down on the size and weight. Thank you for what you do Vince!
@VCGConstruction
@VCGConstruction Жыл бұрын
*_Thanks for watching Philip!_*
@Walkop
@Walkop Жыл бұрын
My understanding is that most of the smaller M18 tools simply don't have motors that can make use of the extra power yet. The 12AH Forge is NOT using Li-Po (pouch lithium), it's using Tabless cells, like from Tesla's battery day. They can theoretically output about 5x the wattage for the same heat (heat is always the limiting factor in batteries). Li-Po can also output more power, so I expect 36v tools like the lawnmower to be remade supporting single-battery Forge at some point in the near future.
@Shejinchanappara
@Shejinchanappara 6 ай бұрын
Dear sir I am writing to inquire about purchasing Milwaukee M18 forge batter for Tracker rotation device in Saudi Arabia. Could you please provide me with information on: - Availability in Milwaukee M18 forge batter for Tracker rotation device Saudi Arabia - Authorized distributors or retailers - Pricing and packaging options - Any necessary permits or documentation required for purchase If you have any contacts or leads, please share them with me. I would appreciate your assistance in this matter. Thank you for your time and consideration.
@TheRsixpilot
@TheRsixpilot 5 ай бұрын
@@philipdumas4435 I think if you need a new battery I’d get these unless you find a great deal on HO 3.0’s they’re small and pack a good punch and charge faster
@JoseVillanueva-n2o
@JoseVillanueva-n2o 2 ай бұрын
​​​@@VCGConstruction@6:15 might save you some time but won't save your wrist 4:23 😂
@josegarcia2014
@josegarcia2014 Жыл бұрын
3:21 not sure what's happening here but it looks like the high output battery is going through the second 2x4 instantly on both of these tests, almost like there was a hole on the other side of the second board.
@bradpowers8509
@bradpowers8509 Жыл бұрын
Yup. And when he used the forge and drill bit, he pushed sideways to kill the bit
@JREfunnies
@JREfunnies Жыл бұрын
I charge my phone once a day. It seems that my cell phone battery loses battery life after about a year or so... I'm curious about the three times as long battery life??
@riba2233
@riba2233 Жыл бұрын
You are doing something wrong, I also charge my phones once a day and they last over three years, no problem
@RyanBrem0504
@RyanBrem0504 Жыл бұрын
It has the same power, not run time. Indeed Milwaukee did kinda make that unclear
@jporreca32
@jporreca32 Жыл бұрын
Every dollar certainly counts. But I’m thinking I ll save in not having to buy as many new batteries. Plus less charge time = more production time.
@Dwanny67
@Dwanny67 10 ай бұрын
Vince is such an Italian contractor it’s honestly hilarious 😂 I love this guy
@jeffwolf8018
@jeffwolf8018 2 ай бұрын
@@Dwanny67 that's funny because he annoys me with his voice. And I generally cannot put up with it for more than a minute or two. This goes back years ago when I first saw him screaming about some BS.
@richardvacanti9428
@richardvacanti9428 Жыл бұрын
Not trying to be rude at all. But I just don’t think you explained it very well. The 6 ah m18 forge battery will run as long as a regular m10 6ah battery but have to power of a m18 12ah battery . Is that correct? Wish they would come out with something like that for their M 12 line.
@MrSubaru1387
@MrSubaru1387 Жыл бұрын
Yes. The Forge battery flows power into the tool the in same way/rate as the 12.0 battery does. The 12.0 still has about double the run time of the 6.0.
@VCGConstruction
@VCGConstruction Жыл бұрын
@@MrSubaru1387nice to see you cuzbo, thanks for jumping in here! 👍🏻
@macbergson
@macbergson Жыл бұрын
I only buy my Milwaukee batteries in kits. So whether or not I get the forged batteries will depend on what is offered in which kits.
@302project
@302project Жыл бұрын
Like you said Vince, for 20 bucks more you get a much better and improved battery and the recharge cycle much higher, in the end you get what you paid for. And if you cannot afford one you can always buy the original one. It's nice to have options.
@Tcorellis-j6d
@Tcorellis-j6d Жыл бұрын
I have 4, 3.0 2, 6.0 2, 12.0 that was a lot of money and I sue them daily hence why all the batteries usually enough to run 2 3.0 slap them on the rapid charger and then be able to swap out the two. If people wanna rush out and drop dough on a slightly new let system and a “matching” super charger go for it but my batteries of “old” work just fine and untill they break/can’t hold a charge I’m not rushing out to buy more batteries (forged)
@cliffordmontana4562
@cliffordmontana4562 7 ай бұрын
It’s not a $20 difference though. Only low IQ people are paying $180 for a high output 6.0. I got some four packs of 6.0 high outputs from Home Depot for $329, so about $80 a battery. They won’t run those kinds of deals on forge batteries for many years.
@letsdoolinthis2533
@letsdoolinthis2533 11 ай бұрын
The larger the demand of the tool, the more you'll see Forge come out on top. If you run bigger tools, it will become a must have.
@OUTILSCLIPSQC
@OUTILSCLIPSQC Жыл бұрын
I want to know if she will overheated upon like a grinder or table saw or chainsaw
@Fictitious_Character
@Fictitious_Character Жыл бұрын
Nice. The gains in the Hammer drill were modest over the HO pack, but a little less weight and more charge cycles is a good improvement.
@VCGConstruction
@VCGConstruction Жыл бұрын
Great point!
@MarissaTheMuse
@MarissaTheMuse Жыл бұрын
The problem is they were minor gains over the six amp, our high output, and these are supposedly on par with the 12 amp hour as far as power output goes, which didn’t appear to be the case here and on top of that the 12HO’s obviously still have twice the runtime so… what on earth are we doing here? Kind of feels like a Sharknado movie but with marketers instead of sharks
@greg111685
@greg111685 Жыл бұрын
You should compare them in the vacuum. That should show which one lasts longer.
@aussietaipan8700
@aussietaipan8700 25 күн бұрын
I have 2 x 12 AH forge, I use these in my Milwaukee 26inch mower. I can easily do both front and rear lawns and using the same batteries in my wiper sniper. With 2 x HO batteries, the mower does both front and rear but not enough juice for the sniper and the lawns take about 5 -7 min longer on the HO.
@earlskie2u
@earlskie2u 5 ай бұрын
I found a new M18FB6 in sydney tools but has a different label like there is no written XC60.0 in it.. is it genuine or fake? SYDNEY TOOLS is a legit tool store here in Australia
@Peponlikespeson3684
@Peponlikespeson3684 Жыл бұрын
Really good tests. Thanks for your work Vince.
@VCGConstruction
@VCGConstruction Жыл бұрын
Thanks Jesse!
@azialam
@azialam 10 ай бұрын
I currently use the M18 Fuel Attachment Trimmer with Quik-Lok (2825-20) and M18 Fuel Blower (2724-20) with M18 High Output XC 6.0. If I upgrade to M18 Forge XC 6.0, will I see a performance improvement with either of these tools? Lastly, I am aware that the M18 Forge XC 12.0 is in development. Do you know if a compact version of the M18 Forge XC, ranging from 1.5 - 3.0, will be introduced?
@danielherschberger6424
@danielherschberger6424 Жыл бұрын
You guys should check out the torque test channel on the new forge batteries you can see it bigger power difference making the circular saw vs. The impact and hammer drill
@josephgalaska9031
@josephgalaska9031 4 ай бұрын
So now that you can buy the 12 ah Forge battery, what would be a better purchase for the same price. 2 Forge 6 ah or 1 Forge 12 ah?
@johnger850305
@johnger850305 Жыл бұрын
I love battery comparisons, now cordless tools are so powerful that the main difference of them are really the batteries. I'm recently thinking about upgrading to High Output series since I got a new High Torque series 1/2....The forge battery looks promising, but the price kind of set me back for now.
@marccadec6978
@marccadec6978 Жыл бұрын
I can get a week's run time with the 8ah & 12ah batteries,plus Milwaukee are 💩 bad build, chinsy plastic and plastic gear boxes. When they were owned by AEG/Atlas Copco they brilliant.
@NonieTools
@NonieTools Жыл бұрын
I'd say get the high output batteries, they make a really big difference! But get them on sale, or when they come free with a tool you need.
@JeremyBrightenburg
@JeremyBrightenburg Жыл бұрын
@@marccadec6978Milwaukee does not have a plastic gear box idk who told you that
@bobert866
@bobert866 Жыл бұрын
@@marccadec6978Not the most educated comment.
@ggsdude1
@ggsdude1 Жыл бұрын
​@@bobert866he definitely uses ryobi
@AntonioClaudioMichael
@AntonioClaudioMichael Жыл бұрын
I like the Forge battery indicator looks good Blacked out on the front Suprised Milwaukee started using pouch cell's
@robertlara634
@robertlara634 Жыл бұрын
If they add an extra year to the forge battery on the warranty imo That sells a longer life battery .
@FalenAnjel2
@FalenAnjel2 Жыл бұрын
Well at this point in time I'm looking towards 3ah HO m18 for more light weight on my impact drill. Since it is a drill I can get away with not using my heavier 5.0 and save them for the hackall and saws.
@ChazDally-df1ft
@ChazDally-df1ft 10 ай бұрын
What battery would you use or recommend for the Milwaukee off power supply? I obviously want to get the longest run time to charge my phone and other electronics but don't want to spend to much money
@erlinguerrero2112
@erlinguerrero2112 Жыл бұрын
Lmfao Vince your reaction 4:25 😂
@VCGConstruction
@VCGConstruction Жыл бұрын
🤣 that’s what not using the handle gets me!
@RAdekRudnikowicz
@RAdekRudnikowicz Жыл бұрын
These new batteries are fantastic they will save my time and money greetings from Finland
@VCGConstruction
@VCGConstruction Жыл бұрын
Hello Finland, hope everything is well in your part of the world! 👍🏻
@RAdekRudnikowicz
@RAdekRudnikowicz Жыл бұрын
@@VCGConstruction Thank you for sure. Thanks to your blogs, it's always up to date, greetings 😁😁😁
@AntonioClaudioMichael
@AntonioClaudioMichael Жыл бұрын
Forge batteries seem a good bang for the buck in my opinion especially for the larger Life span
@OhioPowerTool
@OhioPowerTool Жыл бұрын
Good review! Good feedback! Great Shirt!
@VCGConstruction
@VCGConstruction Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@RidgidRon
@RidgidRon Жыл бұрын
Great and honest comparison. Thank you Vince
@VCGConstruction
@VCGConstruction Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it Ron, thanks!
@erolozkan2168
@erolozkan2168 6 ай бұрын
Is it just me that noticed the high output battery on the second test only went through 1 piece of wood? Wheres are the forge went through BOTH woods?
@735Films
@735Films Жыл бұрын
I'd like to see Milwaukee put out a pouch lithium pack in the cp 2.0 casing so we can still have a compact option but a little better tech. I thought about buying cp 3.0 but I prefer the size of the 2.0 for my impact driver!!!
@Fictitious_Character
@Fictitious_Character Жыл бұрын
I like a lean impact too, but I run the 3.0 ho on my Milwaukee impacts. I considered the size to be negligible.
@truthserum9157
@truthserum9157 Жыл бұрын
Yea I really like the 2.0 size for almost everything when I’m on a latter, when I’m on the ground I’ll go for the bigger size.
@kylevossos4761
@kylevossos4761 Жыл бұрын
H/o 3.0 is close to 2.0 I have a old xc 3.0 same size as the 5.0 basically
@MoseYoutube
@MoseYoutube Жыл бұрын
The HO 3.0 is substantially heavier than the 2.0. Much closer to 5.0 weight.
@1891kmk
@1891kmk Жыл бұрын
Agreed those 2.0 r awesome so light
@houstonsmitherman6888
@houstonsmitherman6888 Жыл бұрын
I now have switched completely from dewalt. I now own the fuel vacuum , gen 4 impact driver , gen 4 hammer drill , hackzall and side grinder. With 2 5ahs , 1 forge , 2 2ahs lol loving milwaukee so far
@MrGelowe
@MrGelowe Жыл бұрын
Is pouched technology actually batter? Pouched batteries are more fragile. They do swell like in laptops and phones. I am guessing Forge has multiple pouches stacked. If 1 swells, there will be major issues. Personally I never encountered standard round cells swell. Die sure, but never swelled. But I have like a dozen old pouch cell batteries from phones, tablet, and laptop that I had to replace due to swelling.
@riba2233
@riba2233 Жыл бұрын
You are correct, they would have been better of with 21700 tabless. Lipos suck...
@abelesparza6059
@abelesparza6059 Жыл бұрын
These new Forge batteries seem like a nice improvement, more charge cycles and slightly more power. However, it looks like it is slightly smaller than the HO 6 amp battery. That is kind of disappointing. I thought that one of the main benefits of these pouch cell batteries was a significant reduction in weight and size.
@norbertotorres262
@norbertotorres262 9 ай бұрын
OK, so I’m not into construction. I work on cars out of my own house so I’m not really sure what I wanna do here so my question to you would be I have an M18 1/2 dr compact gun and my question is will that forge battery increase the torque of that gun and I’m referring to breakaway torque And it’s a little more than a $20 difference
@Ornatetooth0475
@Ornatetooth0475 Жыл бұрын
Every dollar does count I try to buy all my tools when on sale I’ve only bought a few batteries the rest came with tools from deals I’m waiting to see if they do deals with the forge
@djjinerson
@djjinerson Жыл бұрын
I do wonder how it would perform on quick lok string trimmer and other ope equipment?
@Walkop
@Walkop Жыл бұрын
The string trimmer is one of the power hungriest tools they make. I notice a difference between 8.0HO and 12.0HO with it, ESPECIALLY partway through use, so a forge battery would definitely make a difference.
@TheGomezIndustries
@TheGomezIndustries Жыл бұрын
Do it Project Farm style and use a torque meter with those drills and see if the Forged battery really makes the tool stronger.
@AntonioClaudioMichael
@AntonioClaudioMichael Жыл бұрын
I have a bunch of 8ah high output batteries with several dead cells and they didn't start dieing till i started using them on The m18 fuel Weedeater I need to get 21700 cells to repair the Batteries no longer under warranty
@VCGConstruction
@VCGConstruction Жыл бұрын
Wow Antonio, why won’t they cover the batteries under warranty?
@AntonioClaudioMichael
@AntonioClaudioMichael Жыл бұрын
@@VCGConstruction no idea there Only 6 months old 12 of them are 8ah batteries and 4 of them are 12ah batteries there all 6 months old none of them had any issues on other tools but when i started using them on the m18 fuel string trimmer they all started losing cells to the point they only charge to 1 bar now and Milwaukee refused to replace them or even fix them so now I have a bunch of useless batteries that are only good for using on Small tools
@VCGConstruction
@VCGConstruction Жыл бұрын
That doesn’t sound good Antonio, sorry cuzbo!
@AntonioClaudioMichael
@AntonioClaudioMichael Жыл бұрын
@@VCGConstruction that's Life Cuz Something always goes wrong
@jeremycrisp4488
@jeremycrisp4488 Жыл бұрын
I do maintainence for a school district. Sometimes when installing things into concrete or block, my hammer drill will time out after doing about 2 holes. Then after it sits for a bit, it will drill again, but won't even get through 1 hole. It sure is annoying.
@JD-yx7be
@JD-yx7be Жыл бұрын
my battery chainsaw is the same but it is harbor freight and kind get what you pay for.
@OUTILSCLIPSQC
@OUTILSCLIPSQC Жыл бұрын
Nice video, i preorder from day one 2 of the forge batteries i look foward to test them i know some guy on youtube and instagram already got theirs hands on a packout box with the forge and supercharger but nobody seem to do video on them yet except shoptool review and wow that gen 3 wrench is a freak
@VCGConstruction
@VCGConstruction Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info!
@Aepek
@Aepek Жыл бұрын
@vcg construction thx for vid Vince and excited for the “other battery” coming from Milwaukee and the “special” stuff coming along after that which we can’t talk about, aren’t lawyers great 😉 I’m just curious to see how things turn out when everything is released. Cheers✌🏻
@Aepek
@Aepek Жыл бұрын
I still grab my Gen 3 impact and drill over Gen 4 as Gen 3 still great tools and get job done, plus like my Surge and still going strong for me. Did get little annoying w/ Gen 4 hammerdrill when autostop would turn off tool for my “benefit” at times when just needed tool to go and wasn’t in any danger; far as wrist breaking, etc….maybe battery and tool and the magic inside weren’t getting along and decided to fight it out, lol, but Gen 4 are still good powerful tools; but sometimes just don’t need all that power, imo….. Yeah right, 8:05 BRING ON THE POWER⚡️⚡️ Do like new batteries as pricing should change up a little, hopefully in user favor
@Aepek
@Aepek Жыл бұрын
Last comment. I’d grab a forge battery for the tools it just makes sense running them in, meaning high output, high demand, and high performance tools; otherwise, imo, normal m18 battery just fine for probably 80-90% of time or can go HO XC batteries as well, and then if need the Forge batteries ya can se em….options, pretty nice and also would be nice if pricing would reflect little better; as MILW kinda did a slick move when new packout drawers landed w/ pricing on prior 2 and 3 drawer packouts to make pricing for new drawer packouts to “make sense” I guess 🤔 (I’d personally like em to go in a different way, but ok…..lol); so will be interesting to see if new forge batteries make any difference w/ pricing at all, or things stay same w/ more options and prices are what they are. Do like that batteries should LAST LONGER for charge cycles on pouch lithium compared to cylindrical cells, so that’s a plus, but I’m curious to see real world data of ppl using the forge batteries in colder temps, as we know lithium batteries don’t like it too cold, or too hot; they prefer it “just right”….😂 ✌🏻
@Russianbro777
@Russianbro777 Жыл бұрын
I have m12 5.0 high output battery and love it.
@tim62744
@tim62744 Жыл бұрын
Ya Dewalt came out with the pouch battery first for tools said it was lighter and more power 50% more power 25 % smaller and 15 % lighter
@johnharrison4592
@johnharrison4592 Жыл бұрын
I have the money to spend and most Milwaukee users do as well. Im not a fan of pouch batteries tho. I have the option and im sticking with 21700 cells 💪
@AntonioClaudioMichael
@AntonioClaudioMichael Жыл бұрын
I saw these 6.0 ah forge battery on sale for labor day deals at home depot
@fubufb420
@fubufb420 4 ай бұрын
After my Father passed back in 19.😢😢 He left me some Bosch tools. 2 drills and a sawzall. Masterforce impact with a nice fat pack 4.0 batt. Thing is ... I was never happy with the batteries...😢 Now i have 6 little Bosch slim packs all rated at 1.5ah each!😢 Lucky, i seen he had a big boy 4.0ah sittin on the shelf, just waiting to be used!🎉 I bought the Bosch circ saw after that!😂 My pops must've been waiting for the cheap slimpax to wear out first, or he just didnt feel the need for all that power... Always cheap and thrifty, ya know old timers!😂😂 So im gonna INVEST in 1 forge battery just to get started! I hated wasting time on those little slimz... Im gonna have a solid base to grow !!🎉 No more wasting time! 😂 Got a deal on 3 M12 HO 5.0's. Gonna keep one of the 2.5 M12 just for space saving purposes!! Ill alway love my Bosch, i even got the 12v impact. Love it. 🎉 A Forge is something to help create your own future!!😂 So make it a good 1! 👍 Think thats what they meant...😂😂😂
@alfabsc
@alfabsc 7 ай бұрын
Thanks, boss. I have to replace my hd12. Now I know what to get. Even if it is 6AH instead of 12AH, it is worth it.
@farmercase525
@farmercase525 Жыл бұрын
Any videos showing a charge cycle test? The HO Batteries don’t last as long as I would like so I think that hold a lot of value
@go-toolzreviews
@go-toolzreviews Жыл бұрын
Excellent test and assessment . I'm gonna get the new forge primarily for the new technology and longevity of the battery over time.
@VCGConstruction
@VCGConstruction Жыл бұрын
Looking forward to getting your thoughts on the battery… can’t wait to see the content you make!
@Suicaedere666
@Suicaedere666 5 ай бұрын
Let's see the new tabless comparison there Vinny🎉
@prestigemechanical3600
@prestigemechanical3600 Жыл бұрын
They should have come out with a 12ah or 10ah FLEX has a solid array of sizes still walking on Milwaukee for options
@cliffordmontana4562
@cliffordmontana4562 7 ай бұрын
Very few people care about flex. Myself included.
@joshuag8092
@joshuag8092 11 ай бұрын
Id say if u need to replace a old battery spend the extra 20. What tools can use the extra power will enjoy it the ones that will benefit from the little bit of extra run time youll enjoy it
@daftnord4957
@daftnord4957 4 ай бұрын
one thing about the 18650 cells is how durable and long lasting they are. lipo cells from what i'm used to anyway, are sensitive to overcurrent, overdischarge, ambient heat
@Noyjitat
@Noyjitat Жыл бұрын
afraid to drop cash on 6ah forge when 12ah forge is probably right around the corner.
@geddy450
@geddy450 Жыл бұрын
thanks for a nice and fair test 👍
@VCGConstruction
@VCGConstruction Жыл бұрын
No problem 👍
@demuntresmith6666
@demuntresmith6666 Жыл бұрын
Good battery test I have a few thousand in Milwaukee tool love them.
@VCGConstruction
@VCGConstruction Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@jamallaidley4718
@jamallaidley4718 Жыл бұрын
Very Cool Vince 😎 👌🏾
@VCGConstruction
@VCGConstruction Жыл бұрын
Thanks Jamal!
@LifeWideOpen780
@LifeWideOpen780 Жыл бұрын
Why do new drills not have that secondary handle?
@VCGConstruction
@VCGConstruction Жыл бұрын
They do but I’m a monster so I don’t need it! (DONT DO THIS AT HOME KIDS, YOU WILL GET INJURED)
@Billy_bSLAYER
@Billy_bSLAYER Жыл бұрын
We never PAY MSRP for any HO 6.0 or 8.0 or 12.0. Will I buy this, yes, when it is the same price or comes at me in a deal.
@ggsdude1
@ggsdude1 Жыл бұрын
Facebook marketplace is where its at
@The_Honcho
@The_Honcho Жыл бұрын
Would honestly be more interested in a compact version of this, something in the size of their 2/3Ah battery with the run time/power of a 8ah high output
@kevinjohnson8261
@kevinjohnson8261 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I would love to see if they could make a 2.0 Ah and see how it is for a sheet metal screw gun.
@ClipSwitchFlashlights
@ClipSwitchFlashlights Жыл бұрын
Love the content, guys! You think the forge is helpful on the mid-torque?
@VCGConstruction
@VCGConstruction Жыл бұрын
I honestly don’t know but I can test it out!
@kents6746
@kents6746 10 ай бұрын
They spin em quicker, and the run time is longer, not sure if they actually have more ft lbs.
@djmidnightwolf
@djmidnightwolf Жыл бұрын
Need these in a 12Ah option for my OPE.
@VCGConstruction
@VCGConstruction Жыл бұрын
15AH for da mower would be nice!
@express496
@express496 9 ай бұрын
I would avoid pouch cells myself ... Mostly all of them end up expanded or even worse, "exploded"
@jeffreyesguitar5129
@jeffreyesguitar5129 Жыл бұрын
It looks like a cool upgrade if you have a bunch of 6.0s that you have to recharge a lot. For $50 more dollars, you get 12.0 and I would assume fewer charges, which negates the benefit of the 6.0 Forge having more recharges. I'm sure my math is skewed with 2x the AH vs 3-4x recharges.
@JD-yx7be
@JD-yx7be Жыл бұрын
the problem is they are too big and awkward for the smaller tools. the 12ah is mainly for the chop saw, chainsaws, etc.
@ggsdude1
@ggsdude1 Жыл бұрын
Even on an impact or drill, i think forge or HO 6.0 are way too big. Theyre better reserved for higher powered tools like sawzalls, circ saw, hammer drill, cordless chop saws etc. Especially if those are used daily...if those big tools are used once in a while i think you can get away with even a smaller battery like 5.0s or 3.0 HO.
@haddzenough3764
@haddzenough3764 Жыл бұрын
Looks like the 2x4 on the bottom has a hole in it went through the second one way to fast almost like it fell through instead of cut through
@inlinesix1187
@inlinesix1187 Жыл бұрын
Smaller, lighter, and more charge cycles! No brainer. I’m looking forward to the new 12ah tab-less battery!
@VCGConstruction
@VCGConstruction Жыл бұрын
*_has me curious!?_*
@riba2233
@riba2233 Жыл бұрын
They should have also used tabless cells here, would be better in every way. They are just being cheap...
@benmillard3755
@benmillard3755 12 күн бұрын
Seems like these batteries are designed for more heavy use on bigger tools, just cause they are compatible with all m18 tools that don't mean there going to give all tools more kick.
@JustYourAvarageJoe
@JustYourAvarageJoe Жыл бұрын
I use my Milwaukee hammer drill with an Eskimo pistol bit during ice fishing season you wanna talk about a stress test try that with some other brands
@THEBEARDEDTOOLGUY
@THEBEARDEDTOOLGUY Жыл бұрын
Should do the test with the WHOLE HOGG DRILL I have one and soon has I get the FORGE battery then I will test it on my KZbin channel
@Tonyrg1988
@Tonyrg1988 Жыл бұрын
Seems like speed matters more to cutting action than torque
@johnc6256
@johnc6256 11 ай бұрын
I noticed a difference with my high torque half-inch impact, but I still think the old 9.0 delivered more power
@smithsmith6098
@smithsmith6098 Жыл бұрын
I have a bunch of milwaukee tools...forge batteries give more torque, out performs all my snapon and dewalts and matco tools...its worth it , depending on what you need it for...especially in automotive
@davidperry4013
@davidperry4013 Жыл бұрын
Now do the M18 fuel circular saw for the battery comparison
@james2042
@james2042 10 ай бұрын
Its not much different than the regular to ho upgrade in terms of power out. When the tools motor output was the limit, it changed nothing. When the battery voltage drop and current output is the limit, it lets the tool ramp more. Seeing a home made 12ah forge battery (2 in parallels) running a fuel drill overheat the motor because theres more power than the motor can dissipate tells me the battery tech, based on current tools, is starting to max out their designs and software is becoming the name of the game. In testing the forge batteries have even less voltage drop than a 12ah, which means not only more torque, but it will burn through the 6ah capacity faster as its quite literally moving more energy since the voltage is higher
@johnstarks5323
@johnstarks5323 Жыл бұрын
3:57 & 4:25 click on these back to back
@kennethsears5041
@kennethsears5041 Жыл бұрын
Yes it is
@VCGConstruction
@VCGConstruction Жыл бұрын
Hello Kenneth, hope your doing well!
@kennethsears5041
@kennethsears5041 Жыл бұрын
@@VCGConstruction I am do good I can't wait to see you soon
@joeshepherd4412
@joeshepherd4412 Жыл бұрын
Talk about life span yet I've still some of the old m18 batteries when the red milwaukee text was on front and less rubber protection on them still going strong and outlasted all my new batteries and highoutput batteries soo..explain that 🤷 god knows how old they are now but still going strong 💪
@nursenatedawg
@nursenatedawg Жыл бұрын
Less downtime charging = more uptime in my saws and drills. $$$ Also, if Milwaukee is correct, and the Forge batteries last 1,500 charging cycles, that’s 3x more than the standard. So fewer dead batteries in the end, and less downtime. Makes it worthwhile compared to the regular 6.0s
@ggsdude1
@ggsdude1 Жыл бұрын
Do you really need 6.0s in your drills and impacts though?
@porkchop7652
@porkchop7652 Жыл бұрын
Nice vid vince. Enjoyed it. Looks like the way forward for me. Using the bigger draw tools you can see quite a difference. Maybe not so much if your just using small hammers and impacts all day, but the life of the battery also makes it a winner. Would love to see how it does in the hole dozer . Smashing out 4 inch plus holes. Im sure you would see a big benefit there too.
@Mr_Gabbles
@Mr_Gabbles 7 ай бұрын
I didn’t even have HO batteries till last week
@hondosmith8234
@hondosmith8234 Жыл бұрын
I would definitely replace my batteries with these but not just go out and get them.
@jjb0894
@jjb0894 Жыл бұрын
I thought the 12 AH battery because I want the better runtime, I think the 12 AH is a better investment. Now if they ever come out with a 12 AH forge…
@godzuki2099
@godzuki2099 5 ай бұрын
Why TF isn't there a forge battery for m12?!
@jmackinjersey1
@jmackinjersey1 Жыл бұрын
You forgot one Major Important comparison point here. That would be the HD 6.0 aH battery as a base. The power coming out of these batteries is still ONLY 18 Volts, No More. The Amp Hour size does not allow the tool to work harder, it only allows the tool to work at its optimal working point for a Longer time. As far as buying batteries is concerned, that only applies if you are one of the people that does not watch your videos where you tell everyone Not To Buy Batteries By Themselves, But rather when they come as a Kit or Free w/ purchase or some type of combo.
@sakaraist
@sakaraist Жыл бұрын
While the voltage remains at 18 regardless, the difference is the discharge rates which does allow the motor to draw higher current if demanded. The difference is quite significant between generations. the XC6.0 HO for example is capable of nearly twice as high peak amperage draw than the XC5.0. Irrelevant for the most part on say, an impact driver. But a chainsaw or table saw with knotted woods or an Impact wrench trying to crack loose rust welded fasteners on big rigs or equipment can be an immense difference. The FINAL output values will be similar, but I'd much rather spend 2 seconds on a fastener than 10 very loud, high vibration seconds. Most people and most tools won't benefit from High discharge rate batteries, but the motors that do can make a massive difference in the usefulness of the tool
@riba2233
@riba2233 Жыл бұрын
If only they used new tabless 21700 cells like they out in the new mx fuel packs, they would have 8ah instead of 6ah and even more power.
@G.I.JeffsWorkbench
@G.I.JeffsWorkbench Жыл бұрын
It sure makes sense to me to go w/ the Forge batteries, but only when my H.O.s wear out. Thanks for letting us know the difference.
@BartRoss
@BartRoss Жыл бұрын
Sometimes I'm just gettin more mad in UK they re not available to get same was with track saw , heartbreaking 😂
@djjinerson
@djjinerson Жыл бұрын
Very very nice 👍
@VCGConstruction
@VCGConstruction Жыл бұрын
So nice like Jinerson…. Thanks
@mathewcasasus816
@mathewcasasus816 Жыл бұрын
this is an add for Diablo blades lol
@joshuadelgado503
@joshuadelgado503 Жыл бұрын
Hey Vince they say that the 6amp. Forge is as powerful as the 12 you should make comparison the 6 and the 12 run test see how it goes on price comparison the forge 6 its $199 and Milwaukee 12 am it's $250 it's worth get new technology it's is you're saving $50 that's pretty good I think 💬 🤔 Milwaukee is caching up with DeWalt flex and eggo they have new technology ove battery that's goo Vince that Milwaukee moving up that's good!!
@kennethsears5041
@kennethsears5041 Жыл бұрын
Yes
@RioFoundation
@RioFoundation Жыл бұрын
Now run this back between power stack and flex batteries
@floridanelson
@floridanelson 11 ай бұрын
Only a matter of time before the first pouch lithium in the forge catches on fire.
@abbybonilla4511
@abbybonilla4511 Жыл бұрын
Both Milwaukee and Dewalt need to offer more amp hours for their pouch cell packs.
@NeonFlaming0
@NeonFlaming0 Жыл бұрын
Dammit Vince if you are gonna use a drill with the auto stop off at least put the forward grip on it.
@chancecaillouet3653
@chancecaillouet3653 Жыл бұрын
Got to prove it self first on charge cycles
@InuranusBrokoff
@InuranusBrokoff Жыл бұрын
If these batteries came out 5 years ago I'd be on board, but with the way the supply chain fell apart I'm not buying that these things will last as long as stated. Actually, I'd bet money they won't.
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