【VCR GTA3】Things about the hololive studio and current holostars 【Astel / Towa】【Eng/JP Sub】

[@vtuberuniverse]

Please be civil in comments, It's a mess within the company without a doubt, but as long as they choose to stay in there, I'll keep supporting them. 過激なコメントは控えてください。 会社内部が混沌化してるのは目に見えてるけど、 タレントが残るという選択するなら、 自分は応援しつづけます。

[@WonderingXena]

Thank you for the clip! Honestly, I'm just speaking to myself here, But I'm just kinda feeling a tad bit.. tired and disappointed with all these situations (Although, i only have myself to blame for keeping up with it) I'll still support all of the members, and wish it would only improve from here onward, hopefully..

[@Koronium]

​@WonderingXena Great perspective. I've been there before when my emotions ran high keeping up with certain news (unrelated to vtubing). Once I stopped following the news so closely, I was able to get my emotions under control so things didn't bother me so easily. Of course, everyone is entitled to have their own emotions and reactions. Yet, I just advise anyone seriously being affected, like actually health-wise or mental-wise, to take care of themselves first. There are some passionate fans out there.

[@lucatielofmirrah-1853]

big TY for this clip.

[@akira8393]

If they leave they'll leave but hearing them saying there's nothing wrong is a big fat lie when everybody sees this is getting bad. Like come on, let's just be real about it.

[@iiiCorrosiveiii]

@@akira8393 people like you have never worked in a company before and it shows

[@komy9746]

アステルの4周年ライブが凄く良かったから、今年も期待してたが残念だったね でも代わりに歌ってみたカバー5日連続リリースっていうお返しをくれたからやっぱカッコいいぜアステル

[@lucatielofmirrah-1853]

Yeah I was really really waiting for another 3d anniversary live too. Last year 3d live quality is just really amazing that it moved my heart. Hopefully next year...

[@fuuchanwaouchi]

アステルくん実は前から配信で、危機感持ってるって話をしてくれてたから、アステルくんリスナーは何となくわかってたことだったとは思う。ただ、ホロスタ全体のファンには届いてなかったと思うから今回この切り抜きを作ってくれた事に感謝です。

[@shade_cloud]

すげぇ。メン限級の内容だよこれ。めちゃくちゃ勇気あるねこの方

[@astray8911]

これまでは運営からのキャリーがあったからどうにかなっていたけど これからは一丸となって本気で足並み揃えていかないといけないターンに入ったわけか ホロスタにとっては今こそが踏ん張りどころであり真のスタートラインなのかもしれんな

[@まめぎん]

Twitter見てると運営がめっちゃ叩かれてるけど、ホロスタの規模感を考えればめちゃくちゃ頑張ってた方だと思うんだよな。それがアステル君の言うように実力に伴った待遇？になっただけ。だからこそこれからはメンバーのみんなで人気になって、高待遇を勝ち取りに行かないといけない。

[@ムジュラの仮面-v5o]

アステルってストイックだから自身の力不足を嘆いてるけど、あくまで人の前に立つ立場のアステル個人の意見で、実態として今年って今までより知名度が上がったりイベチケやグッズも滅茶苦茶売れてたりと大躍進とは言えんが中々良い年だったんだよな。 せっかくの稼ぎ時でやらない理由がないのにやらないのは「やれないから」だと思うんだよ 契約解除による全体曲の調整や技術者の不足、カバー社自体の不都合でちょっと難しいんだと思う。

[@ぼんちあ]

アステルくんの届けてくれるものすべてが最高だから６月のライブ楽しみだ！

[@takunamako]

素晴らしい切り抜きでした。ありがとう。

[@vtuberuniverse]

レッドブルー代ありがとうございます！

[@VenoSupport]

I really like the way Astel structured what he wanted to say And honestly, it's just reminding people Cover is a company too, they'll have their own roadmaps and their own ways of allocating resources For me, working in a smaller company, I get to learn how hard it is for decision makers to keep salaries up (meaning to give increments by year) while also finding ways to earn a profit so that the company can keep growing

[@MaiMai-wn2ys]

@@VenoSupport astel is like the leader in Holostar, actually like Roberu, astel and Aruran they seem to position themselves as the oldest brother and leader who guides their group...

[@Ichigo2k9]

I'm sure that's a comfort to the EN guys who get treated like shit. So long as they treat most of the girls well I guess all is forgiven...

[@saliece]

以前はアステルとロベルの2人が外で知られてて、他のメンバーは悪く言えば閉じコンだったのがここ1〜2年で他の子達も外に知られ始めて、ムービンオンがホロライブのノンストップストーリーに当たるんじゃないかって思えたから、もっとビッグになるとこが見てぇよ

[@bbbbbb5369]

単純にFPSくらいしか大会無くてFPSの大会に出れるのがアステルくらいで前世の関係でロベルの知名度があっただけで、他は閉コンとか以前の問題。

[@crossloveya3]

少なくともスト6に力を入れたりVCRへの参加は大きな一歩だったよ 箱より先に個人を知ってもらえれば「○○ってホロスタだったんだ、ホロスタええやん」と思われるくらいのポテンシャルはある

[@Tsumi_]

I always end up being lifted up by Astel's words. He knows us very well, and explaining his perspective really helps us face forward with a better mindset. I respect him so much.

[@Chaos2Frozen]

Speaking for myself, Astel has been mentally preparing his audience all year with hints that things are not all cozy at HoloPro. So when the big bad news hits I was upset but not completely shocked because I was ready for it for months.

[@Tsumi_]

@Chaos2Frozen yeah, while he can't be too transparent with things, he's always been giving little heads ups here and there.

[@s07195]

@@Chaos2Frozen Yeah I'm just glad the 5th anniversary was this year, that it was when it was, especially with the news that came after.

[@shino136]

アステル君ってストイックでカッコええな。アステル君が同じ考えの人集めてユニット組むのが良いかも？

[@かぼてゃ-t4x]

歩幅揃えなきゃ行けないってのがほんとに大変そう ホロライブの方と比べたら人数も少なめで誰かが今までなかったようなことしようとしても難しいだろうしなかなか注目してもらえる機会ないよなぁ… それはそれとしてちゃんと現状把握できてるのすごいな

[@おにく-v5e]

カバーが定期的にライブやってたから、ライブって結構気軽にやれるものなんだって意識がリスナーにはついちゃったせいで、実はフルスロットルな状況だった現場としては、もう無理…って限界が来ちゃったってことかねぇ… まぁそれだけの頻度で無理してライブやったからここまで大きくなったってのもあるけど、、、バランスが難しいね…

[@olimay]

You are a GOATed clipper. I was literally looking at a JP clip of this last night and wishing there was an EN sub I could pass along. 本当にお疲れ様でした。

[@やまんちゅ-k3y]

今年アルさんが外部交流とか頑張って数字を伸ばした様に努力をすれば可能性は全然あると思う ホロスタは人数が少ないから皆がそういった努力をしないと箱として大きくなれないのが難しいとこだけど

[@CHIHARU888]

自分の記憶では一年ちょっと前くらいのアルさんは配信してもリスナーが200人も集まらないくらい苦しい状況で　本当によくあそこから立て直したと思う…

[@takos-v6y]

@@CHIHARU888分かります、、！だから昨晩のギャルカフェ事件みたいにアルさんがたくさんの方の中心に居たら嬉しくて嬉しくて、、！

[@sample_do]

最近ホロスタも少しずつ人気出てきてると思うからこのままみんなコツコツ頑張ってほしい。実際ホロスタの人たち話も上手いし面白いし歌もうまいし絶対もっと人気出てもいいと思ってる。

[@zapoteco2016]

ホロスタのことはあまり分からないがたまたま見て興味深く、また彼にも好感を持った。カバー株保有して応援してる立場から言うと、ホロスタが伸びるのが一番サプライズ要因になりそうなので、ぜひ頑張ってほしい。

[@yousee4657]

SNSで海外のホロスタ民の方々と交流する中で、ホロスタの現状が正確に伝わっていないと感じることが以前から度々ありました。 なので、この件について翻訳して切り抜いてくださったことにとても感謝しています。 本当にありがとうございます。 Today's wordが「ケツを叩く」なのは笑いましたw 素晴らしいチョイスです👍

[@まめぎん]

今までは採算度外視で行われていたものが、これからはそうはいかないと言う話だよね。全員が本気で人気を取りに行かないと。みんなアルさんに続け...!!

[@Kai-ef3wv]

Astel keeping it real, that telephone game analogy so accurate

[@almatuska9183]

I do heard that term in Japanese from time to time.

[@NamePending9]

Basically a scene from Oshi no Ko

[@Ex_v]

自分は2022年のカウントダウンライブでホロスタ知ってから見るようになったから今回の件は悲しかったけど、こういう話を見てるときっと大丈夫って思える

[@4473021]

Not really surprising given the extremely niche skillset required, and Holo's relatively fast growth. They've proven what the studio can achieve, now they need to build a permanent core team around it to suppoet talents

[@reverberation9273]

だからこそ俺がアステルくんが大好きなんだ

[@WindStreak_]

I'm very thankful to Astel for being so open with us fans! I wish I had more energy and time to support the JP Stars, but their streaming times usually don't match mine. I do love them and enjoy watching clips of them a lot though, so I hope that counts for something

[@t1class]

居続けてくれる、それだけでも嬉しい

[@モブ3-c1y]

マジ冷静になってみるとほんと規模感合ってきたなって感じはある…ここからまた頑張って欲しいな 気合い入れ直して推していきますか！みたいな気分にならせてくれるのは、アステル君が考えるものとは違うかもしれないけど、アイドルだと思うな

[@Lakeland777]

Awesome clip! It's so cool when both sides of the company can talk freely about their experiences

[@SenseofNoneYT]

I kinda feel bad for those of them who go above and beyond. Now that things are getting tough, it's become crucial to be able to put in more effort than usual. I'm very happy about the progress of some of HoloStars, especially Roberu, Astel, and Aruran. They seem to be thriving on interacting with other VTubers/streamers. But it feels like they're becoming popular as individuals. Doesn't feel like a tide that lifts other HoloStars boats. Either way, good luck to HoloStars. I hope they continue to grow in popularity. Probably don't need new gens right now though.

[@domi8499]

It's hard to reach critical mass for success these days as the Vtuber market becomes more and more saturated. There are also a lot of luck involved. After all, being successful in the content creation sphere is like 100% but 1000% luck.

[@モケモケ-p2w]

そういえばアステルくんは昔からFPSや大会外部コラボとかVCRとかにも積極的に参加してガンマくんをV最に誘ったりかなりホロスタにとって大きな存在だったんだよね。ホロスタ知ってから2年くらいだけどアステルくんとロベルくんのホロスタへの貢献度はかなり高いと思うしアルさんやイヅルくんも伸びてきてるしなんとかホロスタがもっと注目されてほしい。

[@yamiRic]

Probably one of my favorite Holostars clip. Thank you for doing this. I shared same opinion with Astel

[@suzumebaschi]

Always good to see boys and girls from hololive having interactions like this and have a free space to talk about the behind close door thing we dont really know. So im glad they can do it in VCR

[@SilentStormfall]

Thank you for providing this translation. It's good to see a perspective from Astel! I'm happy that he feels that he can share this with us. Honestly what shocks me the most is Astel saying they haven't had a 12 member meeting with management for the past 2 years to talk about serious topics/topics of direction. I know the JP and EN side of stars are run rather separately but if I recall correctly the EN side have group meetings quite often that everyone attends (as mentioned by boys on stream, in funny moments here and there even). As someone coming from a corporate background where monthly, quarterly, annual meetings with several combinations of teams is often done, to me it looks like cover has grown into a huge corporate fast without the means to Incorporate the talents collective opinions into its strategy. Obviously, they're geared towards entertainment so I don't expect they'd have something as regular as what my own job would have but none in 2 years seems very lacking.

[@nitsuji6705]

It devolves into two reasons: management can't wrangle the members together because they don't want to and are satisfied with their own goals or management does absolutely nothing to gather them and set a meeting (meaning they aren't really on the priority list). Maybe its the fear of heated discussions... and disagreements that can make or break them.

[@rasurin]

​@@nitsuji6705 i feel it's probably cause the members are pretty independent direction wise and they're technically contractors instead of employees

[@venkaramon]

It's hard to wrangle them even the girls side they don't do branch wide meetings because theres just too many of them for the stars side it's hard to wrangle them especially if it isn't common for them to have those meetings. If from the start they did those it's understandable to keep doing them but not if it was just a one off 2 years ago.

[@aska5815]

As stated in this clip, Fuma would just go "ah sorry have another appointment" & just dip cus heavy topic isn't for anyone. We really don't know what is the cause like Astel, is it the members? Or the management?

[@nitsuji6705]

@@aska5815 it definitely screams complacency for me (heavy speculation)

[@thefoota]

いいパーツ揃ってんだけど、走らせるガソリンがない感じか

[@ああ-c4r5w]

ホロスタ見始めてから1年くらいしか経ってないけど、もっとみんな視聴者増やすために貪欲になればいいのにとは思ったな。コラボ配信は人によって向いてる向いてないがあるから仕方ないとして、おすすめに上がる時に見てみようかなと思う企画やサムネを作るとかソロでも出来るだろうし、各チャンネルで動画編集者に頼んで切り抜き作ってもらうとかやれることまだまだあると思う。 あとはスタ雑みたいなやつを定期的にしてほしいwゲームでコラボもいいけどホロスタ同士のシンプル雑談も見たい人多いと思う。

[@CrowitzerTheHoloFan]

I agree, Holostars EN Regis Altare had a talk show with other Stars EN members called National Tempus Radio and it was well received. Sadly it was discontinued for now.

[@inja7202]

貪欲になれない理由とその人に貪欲にならなくていい部分があるんでしょうね。

[@さサくれ]

心底にあるものを出してくれる話せる環境を自分で作る人なんだな､､､応援したい‼️

[@inatska1]

アステル君がそういうなら俺は彼を信じます もう何も言うことはない

[@inatska1]

そしてこういう気持ちにさせてくれる彼の言葉を広めてくれたチャンネル主に感謝です。

[@lucatielofmirrah-1853]

This remind me of his gta clip when mimitaya doubt astel as an idol, and he said that he's probably the 1st or 2nd most idol in the group and izuru agreed to it. And yeah, from his effort alone last year, his way of taking all of this seriously especially when he is on stage. He's indeed the most serious one.

[@fluffyelite35]

Many talents also talked about this lack of staff in the new studio. They even asked (jokingly) their fans to apply to the company. I assume Cover wants to hire skilled people or is already a veteran of handling mocap studios for 3D; they probably can't find people that fit for their requirements. In the Holostars part, the boys really need exposure on the internet by doing big events to attract new fans (hosting tournaments or doing trendy meme content), and more clippers for the algorithm. Also for the Holostars fans, keep promoting/supporting your oshi and don't engage in any drama bait on Twitter or any SNS.

[@kira_offvocal]

i knew i could expect on astel to speak up about this, he's one of the most open and honest vtuber i've seen also reminds me of the talk with a vspo girl some days ago, astel said he's probably the most idol out of everyone and i totally agree with that. some people may have an image of him as someone who just messes and jokes around from the contents of him that usually gets clipped but he's actually a really thoughtful and hardworking guy, hope this vcr can change some people perspective of him also another thing i want to bring up is the popularity of holostars i know they have been trying hard and i see their efforts but lately they just seem to don't grow that much in terms of popularity, i'm not saying that they're not growing at all from what they've done, but i feel like they deserve much more than this speaking of astel as an example, his 3D are really great and his streams are entertaining, don't even need to speak about his singing skills, there are tons of clips out there and he often joins events like these to grows out his and holostars name, same goes for people like roberu and aruran that often collabs with the outside, honestly speaking they're just as skilled and entertaining as the current famous male vtubers so i really wonder why they're still so underrated after all the years of hard work, are they not advertised enough or is there something that is holding them back? or is popularity based on luck alone and they're not lucky enough?

[@vvaleddy]

Unfortunately, a lot of japanese fans bought the rumors that go back to their debut days, and they can't break that barrier. Just last year a lot of people learned that Aruran wasn't the bad person they expected. And it's now the same with Astel. Another point is the lack of structure and support. COVER thinks that vtubers will just become popular because the attachment to the brand but that's not the case. That's why Starmins are using this moment to speak up and they need to keep doing it until things improve.

[@Alex_38899]

using "lack of support" as an excuse actually feels like delusion considering how much promotion they get. When Uproar debuted, they had advertising panels at many train stations in Japan. they also still get 3d even though the number of subs and views is far below hololive. They still get sponsors from various games. Also dont forget holostars EN newest song got promoted at new york. Asking for more than that actually makes you look very ungrateful.

[@kuronoch.1441]

​@@vvaleddyYou meant that incident when Miyabi was introduced? Funny thing is that that incident was instigated by falseflagging Nijistans because they do not want another male group to join the scene so that Nijisanji can monopolize that niche.

[@chito_chi10]

Vtuberへの入りがホロライブでした。ホロライブを知ってから「ホロスタってどうなんだろ？」っていう興味を持ち ロベルさんの配信を見てから色んなホロスタの配信も見て面白さを感じました。 ホロライブが入口でとても好きだけど、ホロスタめちゃめちゃ良いなとなりました。

[@青-i7s]

4周年ライブめちゃくちゃ良かっただけにもっと視聴者増やさないと勿体なさすぎる。

[@SomeBuddy555]

what the holostars need is a new Shinove. the person who replaced Shinove should step up his game

[@kiabpaj]

I miss Shinove-san to this day. After Yagoo pass him the reigns where he was handling all the boys by himself before they got their own managers, he still got things done while at the same time keeping the boys on their toes. Even when he got moved up in position, the boys always praised him with being within arms reach because he was so good at allocating resources and working with ideas.

[@魚-o8n]

外部やお姉さん方とコラボするのもいいけど、ホロスタはもっとスタ内でコラボ配信をやって欲しい。 ホロスタ同士の関係性や仲の良さが垣間見れるようなコラボや箱企画が少ないのも、新規ファンが定着しにくい原因の一つだと思う そもそもホロライブのお姉さん方だって「ARK」や「マイクラ」といった箱ゲーで伸びたし、今でも月1～2でゲーム大会やって箱推し育ててるよね

[@tehpyono2203]

thanks for this clip, really informative about various aspect on the studio which as everyone expected, severe lack of staff. Surprising to hear they couldn't even staff most of the rooms though, so I guess things will get better when they get more people. While I don't watch Stars, I do enjoy the clips I come across them and I wish the best for them.

[@hiphipfrey]

thank you for including a long clip, i know it would have been easy for things to get lost in translation or taken outta context otherwise. they have a lot of great insights, and its refreshing to hear these sorts of talks between both branches, makes the things we've been seeing and hearing (all the problems and struggles everyone's been going thru) feel like we're all in this together.

[@ごちゃごちゃ-n6f]

VCR GTA3と関係ないけど、面白い切り抜き。

[@osshu777]

配信は有名になるまでは本当に死にものぐらいで休まずやらないといけない厳しい世界だよなぁ 結局は個人事業主だし自己責任になっちゃうけど

[@groznymerkuria7464]

from what astel and towa saying, they really lack of human resource..they need more human, but the requirement is pretty high so no many pass the test even as staff-san.

[@mayomayo3681]

この前のしゃるる杯で知ったけど頑張ってほしいな

[@ボーボーフラフラ]

ストイックですね。好感持てます。

[@seiji-kisaragi]

ホロライブは元々「ゼロ」からのスタートって言われてた。 でもホロスターズは生まれた当初から大量のアンチが出て、まともなスタートが出来なかったどころか言わば「マイナス」からのスタートだった。 それでも今まで歪ながらもホロライブという大樹の下で、マイナスを地道に解消し続けてここまで頑張って活動してきて、今ようやく「ゼロ」になれたのかなって思う。

[@ch.d.a4880]

ホロライブは男性共演NGを主張してるメンバーが多いからその影響でファンが男性ライバーと絡む事を過敏に警戒するようになって、そしたら同じ事務所のホロスタが目の敵にされて人気が低いから大変だろうな 新人が増やせないのも、人気が低いからだし

[@Akira-cy4mj]

@@ch.d.a4880 まんま無印アイマスからの軌跡をたどってるからね 最初はアンチの声が大きかったけれど今では男性ユニットを合同ライブで省くとなったら大批判が起きると思う ホロも大変だろうけれどそのまま軌跡をたどればアンチの声もそのうち小さくなるでしょ

[@user-qb8hk9jx4r]

言ってることも理解できる、それでも「カウントダウンライブをしない」って判断を下したという事実にどうしようもないやるせなさを感じるんだ

[@chicago_dragons]

ユニコーンは、熱を上げてたネットキャバクラ嬢に男の影が見えた″気がして″耐えられないんだろうな。 CRとかにじさんじとか歌い手とか配信者の男性演者に異常に噛み付く習性とか、モロにオタクユニコーンってかんじ。そんなファンの異常性がホロメンのマイナスブランディングになってるって気付けないのも、今のホロライブの負の側面だと思う。 てかその異常さが同じ会社の別部門の演者にすら向いてるというね。普通なら自分がやってる事が悪い事だって気付ける筈なんだけど、人によっては分からないもんなんだね。 同じ会社の先輩のファンに攻撃されるの辛いだろうけど、ここが踏ん張りどころだと思うから頑張って欲しい。

[@春夏秋冬-d7h]

つまりはこっからなんだよな。表現間違ってるのかもしれないけど、これまで努力してきてくれた、タレントさん達が報われることを願ってる。

[@茶葉-c3v]

年越しライブがなくて、スタ民さんがあんなに怒ってるのは初めて見たなって…それだけ愛されてるんだよね

[@blackfirehedgehog7725]

Interesting discussion here, appreciate the translations. Seems like things have been tough lately, but all I can do is watch and support the talents so I try not to think about it much.

[@Insiqueraux]

Thank you for the clips!

[@jurapple]

ホロスタに幸あれ

[@crossloveya3]

ホロライブとコラボ出来ないから伸びないんじゃなくて、ホロライブのファンにとっては同プロなだけの別箱でホロライブ以外のファンにとってはホロの中の1つというどこからもどっちつかずな存在なとこが伸びにくい要員だと思うんだよな だからこそ個人それぞれが伸びなきゃ箱としても伸びないわけで ロベルは元々コラボ多い、アステルはFPSでずっと大会出てるし最近はイヅルや封魔も混ざるようになった、アルさんはスト6やGTAで存在感出てるしオウガさんも電流で一気に知名度上がった 律可も元々人脈広いけど歌唱王で更に手を広げてるしシエンはTRPG繋がりで他箱のライブにお邪魔したりしている ホロスターズだから関わるのちょっとな…みたいな事はもうないんだろうから、所属問わず友達たくさん作ってコラボすること覚えたらまだまだ何とかなるよ

[@raiza0116v]

12:12 カッコよすぎる。 ここからだよ。ホロスタ⭐️。

[@MugendramonX2]

Astel best boy he's always so open and free

[@torinotukune]

ホロスタを初期から応援していて今はピークの時よりちょっと離れ気味ですが初めてこの切り抜き動画のコメント欄でホロスタ民が荒れてるらしいのを知りました。 こんなに荒れるくらい新しいリスナーさんがたくさん増えたんだろうなと嬉しい気持ち半分、メンバーがお気持ちを含めた裏側のお話を話さなきゃいけなくなって申し訳ない気持ち半分.... レダくんははっきりした話を初期からずっと変わらずしてくださるので信頼しています！ホロスタを全力で応援しています！

[@Fulikia]

thanks for the clip, it's informative everyone gotta understand how corporate works

[@Orangette00]

Even tho I'm a guy, Astel is my oshi. And I'm glad he will overcome this storm with positivity... May the storm passes quickly.

[@TK-rs1si]

ガンマ君が(アーカイブ無くなったからうろ覚えかもだけど)VCRRUSTに参加した時の「まずは自分を知ってもらうのが1番大事」って言っててその後めっちゃ積極的にショート動画出したり引き続きVCRに参加したりしてた。多分今のホロスタを切り開くにはガンマ君のようなパワーと行動力が必要なんだと思うし、なにかとアステル君がガンマ君に気にかけていたのそういうことだったのかなあって…

[@one-i9sis]

契約解除という残念な終わり方をしてしまったんなら、いくらパワーと行動力があっても必要な人だったという評価はできないですね…逆に痛手になってしまったのでは。

[@TK-rs1si]

@@one-i9sis 痛手というのは仰る通りですね。ガンマくんのパワーと行動力そのものは間違ってなかったので、その魂をホロスタメンバーが受け継いで頑張ってほしいと思います。

[@TheRealVordox]

Cover has been screaming for engineers with 3D and computing for years. Can only get so many qualified people within such a short time for such a growth. Please don't burn out the staff too. :(

[@tutlehat103]

they have really tight screening on top of it too for safety reasons. the guys behind the scene really have it tough

[@SenseofNoneYT]

That building is enormous. There's no way Cover suddenly has that many employees. Sadly, staff will most likely get more work than they usually handle and some parts of Hololive Productions will unfortunately get neglected.

[@s07195]

When you have rushes of 3D events suddenly like these few days, you just know they booked the technicians for a full day with different timeslots.

[@1UwU3]

Astel worked hard last year. It's good that he came back. People often question why holostar is not famous If you look for errors Go back to their starting point. Cover advertising methods are not good. I see some of them being compared to Niji or kuzuha like I said in the first point. Their starting points are different, kuzuha can do whatever it takes to become famous without limits. How to take care of a holostar is the same as taking care of a hololive if compared. Treat boys like girls. For me, to make holostar more famous. not looking for collaboration from hololive when I can see outside streamers becoming more famous without collaborating with hololive. If the day comes that the company doesn't expect holostar, should push itself with the power of itself, as Astel said, must work harder.

[@Asuka_Sora]

Thanks for the clip! It helps a lot to have first hand information. I cant help to feel again the frustration I felt about the concert, where many of us couldn't buy an entrance because they choose such a small venue.... They really underestimated the stars fans.... They could have earned more money in a bigger venue... But well... I said my piece about that to management on the Google form... The part about the other stars "running away" from serious topics was something I didn't expect... I'm not sure how to react to that as a fan. For now I'll just keep supporting them as I can with my memberships and merch but I really hope this get a solution someway 😢

[@Chaos2Frozen]

It's not something I've considered but in hindsight it makes sense that not everyone would be cut out for those kinds of serious introspective discussions for a group or company. I think this recent outrage would be good in the long run because the boys get to see how much people truly do care about them even if the anger is slightly misdirected. Encouraging them to actually take that step to have that talk.

[@丸竜胆]

ホロのことを対岸から眺めてただけだから何様なんだよって感じなんだけど、4、5年にじさんじライバーのファンしてる身からすると土壌がないというか土壌を作ろうと頑張ってる人達が報われてないよね。 月下くんとかガンマくんがバズった人が辞めてしまったり、アステルくん、ロベルくんが外部に顔だして頑張っても、ずっと向かい風が吹いてる感じがある。あとホロライブの1部ファンなホロスタを毛嫌いしてるのも向かい風。 それとカバー全体に言えることだけど運営の良くない部分をリスナーに開示しすぎだと感じる。 それ開示してリスナーに共有する必要ある？普通に社内で相談して解決すべきじゃない？って感じ。 所属タレントがマネとか運営への不満を冗談じゃなくてガチトーンで配信で言うってどれだけ運営信用されてないんだ。 こういうことがファンの外にも伝わってくるからホロスタのタレント推しても幸せになれそうにないってのがイメージとしてついて新規が入ってこない原因になってそうで可哀想。 頑張ってる配信者が事務所の影響で売れないの外野から見てても辛いよ。

[@rekka4]

それぞれ目指す方向、モチベーションが違えば全体での企画なんてできないよね

[@みゆき-i2x]

アステルくんの考えかっこよすぎる

[@kume8hachi]

ホロスタは伸びる素養は充分にあるし、性格的にも能力的にも良い人ばかりなんだから、もっと知られて欲しい。

[@ぴすと-v1o]

年末カウントダウンライブでホロスタとのコラボ無くなったのもったいない あれで律可知ったなぁ

[@ケイスケ0905]

一部のせいで無くなるのマジで可哀想

[@rankk8666]

それなぁホロライブ自体去年から見だしたからアーカイブでみたけど凄く良かったのに一部の否定派のせいでなくなるのは勿体ない リスナーが可能性潰してどうするんだよって話だわな

[@すのこ-c8q]

ぶっちゃけ、運営やタレント自身や他リスナーのスルースキルも必要だと思ってる やんや言う人はどんなことだって絶対いるわけだし いちいちピックアップしてコーンコーンと騒いで対立軸作ったり大問題にしたり、運営やタレント側で言うと逆に過剰に配慮しすぎている気がする（個人の感想） カウントダウンのコラボパートのときだってさ、ホロライブ側も同時接続ちゃんと伸びてたんだよね

[@the1531]

アステルくんがこんな冷静で熱い男だと全く知らなかった。 カバーも技術者不足でスタジオの宝の持ち腐れしてるとは…。 集団で同じ情熱をもってやる難しさはあるけど、ここを乗り越えてライブや次の新人が入ってくるような土台になってくれたらなと思う。お姉さま方もそうだったはず😊

[@kaigaikarano]

Try to watch his "self-concepted" 3D debuts from years ago. He was very talented.

[@YouAreSleepyToo]

Unfortunately many of the backroom engineers and staff needed will already either be in a job that needs those skills or not have enough experience to do what hololive needs right now. Finances are stretched for everyone, be kind and supportive and hope that things can improve without too much sacrifice.

[@15thpop]

カバーは派遣社員も多くて、正社員も会社規模と比べると実は大した年収じゃないです。技術者だけじゃなく、他のマネジメントや一般職の業務の人も過酷な労働条件の中で仕事してます。部署によるけど、残業する部署はめちゃくちゃ残業あります。 なので、入ってもかなり辞める人が多い。とにかくタレント第一にしてる会社でもあるし、ファンとしてはタレントを大切にして欲しい気持ちはあるだろうけど、会社はそれだけじゃ回りません。 現場で働いている人たちに余裕がなかったらどんなに好きな業界でも夢を持っていても辞めます。みんな人間だし、いちサラリーマンだからもっといい環境を求めて転職するのなんて当たり前です。 すごく立派な新社屋に移転して、スタジオも沢山作ってそこに企業としてのリソース割いてるのはわかりますが、まずは現場の働いてるスタッフを大切にして欲しいなと思います…。

[@04rlequin]

First and foremost I want to say that I am still a fan of Holostars and try to support them as much as I can by watching streams, clips, paying for membership, and buying both official and fan merch and I will continue to support them as much as I can. I do however want to comment on Astel's portion of the clip with personal opinions so please forgive me. I want to say EN has similar problems to JP, though I can say that EN feels very close overall. I used to be a huge hako-oshi for HQ, and I believe their format to have collab streams on Mondays where each person decides what to do, with creative streams every now and then, was perfect for them at the time and it made them feel like a complete unit with various personalities while they focused on solo streams the rest of the week. I think a lot of fans missed those few months where Tempus felt really cohesive and wished there were more collabs between the boys like it was back then, but understand that everyone is busy and can't do that anymore even though it worked really well for them. Solo streams are probably better for them monetarily so they might feel it's not beneficial to have too many frequent collabs, but it helps them stand out from the sea of indies where at this point the vtuber space has gotten much more saturated. That, on top of varying commitment levels of becoming idols amongst the group makes it difficult to build a proper foundation for Holostars as an idol group where now they have PLAVE and other digital musicans they need to compare themselves to. I think management also plays a huge role and I wish there is more communication and enthusiasm from their side, but I do believe the relationship between them, the talents, and fans to grow is evenly split where the more effort they put in, the more they get back. I wouldn't mind if they became more greedy for numbers for the sake of the branch. I hope this doesn't come off as too heavy on the critique. I sincerely wish as a fan that Holostars continues to grow, that Cover figures out their staffing issue, and the community continues to love Holostars.

[@domi8499]

I think Cover pivoted to promoting new members as a whole cohesive unit ever since UPROAR!! debut. They did a lot of full group collabs. TEMPUS is just a continuation of that. You can also see a lot of whole unit collab from newer units on Hololive side too. Older units, both from Stars and Live, are more individual focused. You barely see any gen 1, gen 2, gen 3 collab outside of big event that are directed by Cover.

[@user-rathirathirathi]

個人的にホロスタは箱内コミュニケーションが足りないし運営含めオタクへの説明が足りないとは思う。アステルくんが言うように現状に向き合って話し合ってメンバーが広くても同じ方向を見ないと改善は厳しいんじゃ無いかな。律可ちゃんもこうしたら？ああしたら？は前からメンバーに言ってるみたいだし…裏でどんだけ仲良くても面白くても表に出してくんなきゃオタクはわからないし新規も留まりも増えないよ。メンバー一致の会いたい未来ってなんなの？って言う。応援してるからこそ知りたいなぁって個人の感想です。

[@SCP-444-JP]

決して不仲ではないだけど、箱感はかなり薄めだった この1年で漸く動き始めたという印象 天真始め、外部交流も増えたのも非常に良い

[@Tom-s6b6z]

やっぱねー…マイクラみたいなグループでの箱企画が初期にほぼ無いのが辛かったよなー RUSTしてくれて嬉しかったもん

[@CHIHARU888]

うむ。 例えばホロライブだと船長、フブキ、ポルカあたりが揃えば赤ちゃん凸待ちとかめちゃくちゃ面白いこと始めたりするけどホロスタの場合そういう面白いことを個々でやっちゃっててグループの意味薄いよなぁと感じることは多々アル。

[@sap-ow3wm]

律可ちゃんが言ってくれる、箱のこと考えてくれてるっていうのはアステルくんも言ってたなぁ。みんなが同じ方向向けるようになってくれるといいな

[@カサト-c6m]

おそらくは現状に満足している人、ホロスタに席を置きながら外部に活路を見い出す人(向上心がある)、に別れていると思う ホロスタを盛り上げようとしてもそれをまとめるのはまあ難しいだろうね。

[@そらまめだろうか]

スタジオがないと人を増やす意味がないから、まずスタジオを作ったのは正解と思うけど、技術者はそう簡単に集まらないから仕方ないよねぇ…

[@吉田吉田-u1b]

ある程度稼動出来る人数居てもソロライブやなんだで動いてて色々分散してるってのもあるんじゃないかなぁ

[@マグロカツカイザー]

技術屋は総合職と違って誰でも即戦力って訳じゃないからね。 大学や専門で技術を学んできた人でも即戦力って訳じゃないし

[@MunnaAmor]

Hearing Astel talk about how hard it is to pull everyone together for a group meeting is disappointing, but not surprising. Despite them clearly caring about each other and getting along well, I've had concerns for a while now that there's some kind of "unity problem" that keeps them from being on the same page, career-wise. I assume it has something to do with different personalities, goals, or work styles not necessarily aligning. They often feel more like a loosely affiliated collective of indies than an official, corporately backed idol group. I don't know what's keeping them from meeting up and making a serious plan for their future, but I hope it changes. No matter how hard they work as individuals, there's limits on how much personal success contributes to the team's success overall. I think that more consistent teamwork and a stronger group identity would go a long way towards improving their situation. When they all get together they have some of the best group chemistry I've ever seen; I just wish they'd lean into that more often. Astel seems really motivated, so I hope that positive energy rubs off on the other guys who may be feeling less optimistic. I still love Holostars, and I'll always try to support them, even though it's harder for overseas fans.

[@NIKKE0725]

すげぇ、痒いところ全部掻いてくれる発言だわ。 配信に晒して良いかどうかは別として。 至極真っ当なエンタメやる人間の考えだとは思う。 ステージに立つ側は見せちゃ駄目な面だけど、 相当溜まってるんだろうなぁ。

[@nyarlathotep8723]

I like when Hololive and Holostars hang out

[@軍師くにやん]

こういうホロの男女で自社について語り合うの、なかなかないからいいね。 てか、時々そういう企画やコラボがあってもいいって、ずっと思っていたんだよね。

[@jurapple]

普段は頑なにコラボが無いですよね。😢

[@bamirio]

1部の自称ファンの男女コラボの反発凄いからなぁ。。

[@user-bf8mt1lj2s]

今は平然とトワ様コラボ出来てるけど 本当に徐々に徐々に慣らしていった結果ようやく出来た事だからね でも前例があるってのは大きい、可能性は０じゃない

[@TK-rs1si]

それこそアスイヅとすいせいちゃんのシネマみたいに、男女ユニット組むとかでも変わるだろうし需要ありそうよね。ファンもSNSとかで声出していけば何か起こるかもわからんね

[@軍師くにやん]

ただ、かなたは男性とのコラボはしないと言っている。ミオは極力やりたくないと言っている。 まぁそういうライバーは別に良いのよ。 外にガンガン関われるトワ様やラプちゃん、フブキングとか、そういうライバーでコラボして欲しいよね。

[@Ati.148]

Thanks for the vid, it was a good explonation on the situtation on the surfice level.

[@concern5810]

very informative clip thanks

[@かののはし]

ここ2年の年末ライブがとても良くて期待してたから特に残念に感じてた。 でも6月のホロスタライブが凄かったから、次のライブを楽しみにすることにする！ この切り抜きのおかげで現状が知れて感謝します。

[@こいし-x6m]

ホロスタのみんなすきだし同じ箱だしもっとコラボみたいなぁ

[@ゴリ-j9i]

そもそもリスナーの比率がホロライブひいてはカラーという会社は男性に著しく偏ってるから難しいよね 面白い企画をしたとしてもそれを見る人が絶対的に少ないし女性ばかりをどうしても推してるように見える 今でもかなり柔軟にはなってきたけど、もっと貪欲に外に顔出して色々な所からリスナー引っ張ってくれたらいいね

[@ろうはる-h4y]

ホロスタが出てきた時の荒れ方とか異常だったしね あの時に谷郷さんがホロとはコラボさせませんって声明出したのもスタートダッシュには握手だったよね

[@circularangle4324]

I hope Cover's internals will resolve their problems sustainably and flexibly in the future, eventually speaking. It's hard asf.

[@rainbowsalt--.]

The video is longer than I expected, thank you astel

[@emraldalt]

2 years begging the management for a full team (12 members) discussion and it's still not realized until today is... painful..

[@vvaleddy]

I don't want to say too much but the fact that the talents themselves don't want to do it is concerning.

[@Scuffed_Cirno]

Can't blame management when the talents themselves don't wana do it.

[@emraldalt]

@@vvaleddy yeah some of the talents just batshid escaping the serious convo, but management should be able to force them, thats how management works.. its for the better good at some point anyway

[@vvaleddy]

@@Scuffed_Cirno that's a management issue. I understand why some talents don't want to touch certain topics with each other but they should address these issues with the company.

[@odlaldo]

@@vvaleddylove how you spin it from “it’s the talent that don’t want to” to “it’s the management that has an issue”

[@rektl2036]

12:00 "keep trying their best until almost dead" .. reminds me of the pains regloss went though as a group to hit their 3D debut. it was a great journey. motivation can really bring out the best.. i guess the lack of competition + weak reward system can really make them unmotivated to try things.

[@Alex_38899]

Even though Regloss has managed to get 500k subs each, they didn't get their 3D debut individually. Holostars gets 3d individually, and collab 3d with their genmates.

[@Alex_38899]

@@frobsonsdesenhos call me whatever u want. Im just spit a FACT. Keep coping about holostars "lack of support" or whatever. just a bunch of failed projects

[@rektl2036]

@@Alex_38899 tbf our expectations are just skewed lol. 100k subs is incredible for any normal streamer. Anything above 100 ccv is top 0.01% Rather.. I do feel kinda bad for other company vtubers, like those featured on Suisei’s 3D lives occasionally. They stream for 10 years, have albums but can’t break 100k. But someone needs to be the one to make the breakthrough for others.

[@lucatielofmirrah-1853]

@@rektl2036 yep, its like being compared with your very successful sister by your parents and relatives. even if what you achieve is already good enough by normal standard, in their eyes you're a failure because you can't achieve what your sister did. And now your relatives think you don't deserve your parent's support because of it. Hololive is amazing, many of them start from 0 to reach where they are rn, but holostars? they start from minus, with all the hate they got even before they debut...its like a certain idol game I know.

[@kaigaikarano]

@@Alex_38899 Wow. Such a strong word. Did u learn that from your parents bro?

[@satriareza7501]

Interesting clip, i'll watch it later

[@無賃金-b7e]

正直最悪だけど見た目大事じゃない？広い層に刺さる見た目/絵柄の人少ないなって思う 自分は好きなんだけど周りのオタクに布教してもあんまり見た目刺さらないこと多い

[@ht122]

リスナーですがこれは本当に思います 最近のVのデザインが秀逸すぎるのもあるとは思いますが。

[@ララルララ]

なるほどありかもですね。自分が詳しくないのもあるのですがデザインの変更で失敗例を知らないかもしれない。みこちやあずきちなんかはだいぶ変わりましたがより万人受けする方向に行けたんじゃないかと思います。

[@ko1fujll698]

ホロスタは本家(？)のJPよりもENの方がまだ活発に毎日のように配信してるくらい活動が薄いからなあ

[@Y太-m7k]

アステルさんは3Dお披露目とかも運営とぶつかっていたらしいから頑張ってほしい。

[@-Raylight]

The way Towa-sama and Astel joke around is so wholesome. I can see them fight each other in stream/collab because they're such good friends xD Why companies love to play telephone game, we'll never know 😭😭 Making mistakes is normal. But let's hope Holostars and Hololive will be heading in the right direction unlike the neighbor's company

[@Vermikun]

Interesting. I thought growing up to 600 heads might have worked things out a bit better, but they still lack manpower for the convenient of talents works. I wonder how big they truly need to be in order to handle all 100+ talents from both side.

[@Chaos2Frozen]

They could hire 1000 people and it still wouldn't be enough as long as they don't fill those key positions like 3D engineers and programmers. Problem is those kinds of talents are harder to find and more expensive to hire.

[@観測所-m3e]

V業界全体で見れば悪くない業績なんだけどすぐ隣にいるお姉様方が眩しすぎて霞んじゃってる感は否めない 現状に満足せずにもっともっととハングリー精神でいかないとダメなんだね

[@mitsua707]

To be honest, I'm not mad there is no concert, disappointed but not mad. What I was frustrated about is the lack of communication. It has happened a lot of time. Between the management and fans then also between management and talents. That lack of communication made people anxious and frustrated a lot. Like with the late EXPO info, fans were anxious about getting plane tickets or not. Then the half-assed announcement of their new year event which felt like a slap on the face as a fan. There are a lot last year and this year, the frustration just piles up. I wish they make more effort to actually advertise the talents. It doesn't even need to be a big 3D concerts. Like for example more highlight reels, featured ads, consistent updates on the talents' activities, interactive campaigns, and maybe localized contents.

[@gtf234]

Even simply just actually treating them as part of their collective brand would help advertise them- I understand Stars does not want to be perceived as riding coattails off the girls but joints between Live and Stars is not the subject. It's disheartening to see all the multimedia projects being launched knowing they will include or represent everyone but Holostars like they're bastard children who need to stay unseen in the attic. Like, do we actually expect them to get an expansion set for the TCG? Collectively speaking we probably don't. They don't get as much support because they aren't as big, but can't grow without the support while being required to run almost everything through Cover, who from a top-down perspective don't seem all that interested in completing assignments for them (like what Altare finally blew up over on camera)...it's the 'entry level position you can't get hired for without already having 10 years of experience' paradox for them. They won't get better support unless they get big on their own while the agency kneecaps them- or at least that's what it feels like to the outside audience no matter how gently Astel and others try to phrase it. EN fans have been the most vocal about these feelings recently from what I have seen but I'm also seeing JP and KR posts sarcastically asking if they should even bother expecting to see Stars at the Super Expo after the less than bare minimum New Years announcement (Super Expo 2022 was pretty bad about that, there was a Stars section but it had no official coverage at all and we only know it existed because attendees mentioned it). It's frustrating to watch them be told they have to give up on or be excluded from every opportunity to be seen as a part of the Holo brand- if you go look at the free portion of the 5th anniversary concert, tons of comments express being impressed and won over as new fans and supporters while also stating it's their first time seeing them- several apologizing for calling themselves Holo-fans without ever knowing about them for 5 years.

[@rabbitsparent]

Ikr!! it's the lack of transparency and communication for me. I think as a fan, we also wanna know what management is planning. We always the ones being kept in the dark😢

[@いい-v7d]

エキスポの情報はもっと早く開示すべきだったね

[@leoforpez]

​@@いい-v7dその通りだ。 せめて万博の情報が間に合っていれば、ここまでヒートアップすることはなかった。