Vedic vs Western Astrology: What's the Difference? w/ Vedic Astrologer Joni Patry

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On Today's Episode You'll learn...
🌑 The difference between Western and Vedic Astrology
🌒 Why your Vedic Astrology Sign is different
🌓 What are the Dasas, and why does Joni swear by them
🌕 The meaning of the Nakshatras
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Chapters 📺
0:00 Intro
2:30 Joni’s Journey
7:15 24 Degrees Backwards
13:01 A Tool for Prediction
17:51 Doshas
25:21 Choosing Between Systems
33:52 Planets as a Strength or Weakness
37:20 Spirituality & Destiny
42:15 Nakshatras & Predictive Patterns
46:05 What About Outer Planets?
47:36 A New Perspective
51:24 Starting Point of the Chart
53:19 Significance of the Angles
55:30 Getting Your Vedic Chart
57:19 Are Sidereal and Vedic the Same?
1:00:48 Resources from Joni
1:04:36 Outro

[@melartista]

I absolutely love Joni Patry. She gave me all the basics I needed to begin learning Vedic astrology through her KZbin channel. Vedic astrology actually helped me understand Western better oddly enough. Understanding Nakshatras are second to none if you want to understand someone on the deepest level. At this point, I find it easier to identify people's main Nakshatras than their signs. Once you learn Nakshatras, you can't unsee it in yourself and others. You'll walk around the world identifying people by their Nakshatras instead of their signs. Understanding Nakshatras make it much easier to predict someone's astrological placements based on appearance, personality, mannerisms and more. Nakshatras also make it so much easier to understand someone's core desires, needs and purpose in life. Claire Nakti does a great job of researching this on her KZbin channel. She gives visually explosive examples through her case studies. It's eerily accurate. Joni mentions divisional charts in Vedic astrology, but many are also beginning to explore this with David Cochrane now in western astrology through a process called vibrational astrology. He's essentially exploring the same thing with math and computers. Thank you for arranging this! "Edited for clarity and punctuation after using talk-to-text. 😅

[@atmanand5802]

⚕ Dhanyavaad Ji... #AhamBrahmasmi 💜

[@blueneptune825]

It's wonderful to be able to say you have more than 40 years of study in astrology! Congratulations to that!!✌🏼🐦🌍💙

[@meniko8233]

You should interview Ernst Wilhelm! Vedic astrologer who uses the tropical zodiac and not the sidereal! The depth of his knowledge and his commitment to astrology is unbelievable❣️

[@madelinezech374]

Finally astrology hub!!! What took so long to bring Joni Patry on your show!!! Joni is an amazing astrologer who expands the science of astrology by sharing Vedic astrology with the world!!!❤

[@AstrologyHubPod]

We've been trying to coordinate for quite some time! Happy it was able to happen now. We met in person at ISAR and after that it all came together easily! So happy you enjoyed the episode. Joni is a gem!

[@alicehesselrode467]

I regularly listen to Joni. Thanks for having her on. I agree Vedic is very good for predictions.

[@omsweethomenj]

Yay Joni Patry! This is amazing to see her on AH! ❤

[@danielleking6056]

Ooohhhh, I've been studying both tropical and sidereal charts. The maha Dashas is very similar to Zodiacal releasing. This conversation helped me connect the dots!! Thanks Jody and Amanda!

[@Atirashada]

Just look at Claire Nakti's nakshatra vedic astrology videos and you know the sidereal is real. The proof and the patters are mindblowing, even the appereances that the planets never fail to give in terms of the nakshatra + sign's rulership. It's just wow! So accurate, that I obeserve it everywhere and I look up their chart and I'm right. Can even tell their birth nakshatra by of how their eyes are set. Amazing.

[@marthemorais7636]

Joni has always interesting ways of teaching us astrology. I watch her utube channel all the time.Thanks to you both.

[@cindymiller4194]

OMG, the last portion of this conversation, Joni mentioned have Pam Gregory on, I absolutley love Pam Gregory, can't wait for this video. Thanks Joni and Amanda much love!!!

[@halo_of_light]

This was the 1st time I’ve heard someone explain the difference in a way that makes sense. Looking forward to learning Vedic. Thanks!

[@LanaK83]

You know, I listened to so many leading experts of Vedic and it made no sense to my brain. To correct myself they made sense its just my brain that did not succeed in making it manageable enough for me to learn. This lady made the basic concepts of Vedic so beautifully simple and easy to understand its amazing. I will spend my night reading on Vedic after Joni for sure. Thank you Ladies. You both shine special kind of light. ❤

[@JR-my8oi]

Just install Night Sky and see which signs the planets are. When I learned Dasha, it was so spooky accurate for my past life and career events. It brought understandings and healings for me

[@Law_And_Society]

Happy to see Joni on Astrology Hub. She's good at what she does.

[@StephieGsrEvolution]

Oh wow! I love Joni and her channel! To see her here was such a nice surprise! I'm still a newbie with Vedic. I first studied it when also studying Ayurveda. She clarified a few things for me even though I knew a lot of what she was talking about already and Amanda asked great questions as usual. 💖💫💛

[@coletteshay455]

Yep it's about time as Patti is very accurate also with help awaken people understanding the corrupt government and media

[@gabrielexpedito2253]

I love Joni Patry. I follow her everywhere possible. Her predictions are amazing!😍

[@cindymiller4194]

Thank you Amanda and Astrology hub for this amazing conversation, also I can't wait to see Pam Gregory on with Joni, this will be very interesting. Looking forward to all this beautiful information thank you to all parties involved. 🌍🌏🌐

[@tinagandhiny]

Wow! What a brilliant discussion!! Many thanks to both of you!!❤

[@cindymiller4194]

Almost forgot to mention, but in an instant remembered my other go to Astrology that I always love hearing from is non other then the wizard, Rick Merlin Levin so very grateful for all you do to educate us and pulling us forward one program at a time. I can't tell you how much this means. Forever grateful!

[@mantrehatashband3884]

One of my fave episodes!

[@cindymiller4194]

I'm so glad to see Joni here on the Astrology hub, she has been my go to for most of my updates for world wide events. But I didn't learn vedic Astrology so it's all new to me but makes a ton of sense. Thanks for having her on.

[@Lisa-sq3zl]

Omg Joni! Glad you are having her on. 😍

[@brianalandaxo]

Love this video I been needing to hear the distinction. I was born January 22 which in tropical astrology is the cusp of Aquarius and Capricorn but in Vedic astrology I’m a Sagittarius. And my moon in western tropical is Aries but in Vedic it’s Pisces.

[@srich2827]

Happy to see this! There aren’t that many Vedic astrologers on social media, and I’m absolutely fascinated with Vedic Astrology!

[@TheBestUsEver1]

...awesome, awesome, awesome, awesome! I have been hoping for something like this in your channel Joni, I am so grateful I looked at your Community page for this video. Happy Thanksgiving Pua! 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟

[@cindymiller4194]

Amanda, it would be great if any way possible to incorporate vedic Astrology to your hub. It does make sense with how the vedic Astrology works, like our true ancestors used based on the moon and Stairs, and the planets. Very organic and more of what our ancestors used. Probably even more accurate of what our birth chart reveals. But also very difficult to digest, probably because we have all been brought up with the western Astrology here in the western world. My mind is exploding, but maybe we all need to expand with everything else going on in our world. Every thing we can introduce to our platforms we can digest it in little bite sized pieces. What I absolutely love about your channel Amanda, is that there's no pop up ads that interrupt the message. Thank you for that!!!

[@Mariafurlano]

That was fantastic! Thank you for bringing in the Vedic astrology.

[@TheMetronir]

This was perfect. Thank you Amanda (and Joni) and Astrology Hub. I'd posted a query while signing up for the 2023 panel regarding the difference between Vedic and Western and I feel like Amanda heard me (or maybe this was just a coincidence). I've been following your channel diligently for over two years and I greatly appreciate it. You are a shining light, Amanda! Thank you. Thank you. 💚 from Kathmandu.

[@AstrologyHubPod]

Thank you so much NIranjan! We had this episode planned for a while, but we did see your question in the form for the forecast event and were very happy to have this video on queue for release. We'll continue to make efforts to represent all facets and schools of astrology :)

[@katandpancho5513]

Loved this interview. Joni is great

[@sudasijolley9092]

Really great talk thanks ..interesting and just blows mind again ..thanks 😌

[@happytx1860]

Joni is fabulous. I was lucky enough to have a wonderful reading from Joni. Thanks

[@maxachilly7451]

Love Joni !!

[@humanoid2423]

🕉️ peace and love to all

[@jaxwhiteley6743]

Love this I tried learning Vedic and got stuck on the terminology like nakshatras, Joni really helped me get my head around it. I've also not liked the deterministic approach, but think that can be worked around, more soulfully.

[@jeniwood9927]

Love Joni!!!!!!!

[@shiningbearable]

I. L O V E Joni....

[@claudialarsson7439]

Btw- would love to see an IC class or even better having Joni for an IC astrologer!❤

[@paulacottingham9888]

Such an enchanting and sweet presence! Gorgeous and sharp as a tack...50 years experience...wow she looks 35? Thanks I will be researching verdic....been into astrology 53 years..paula

[@user-us4mg2vz6e]

ABULOUS CLARITY, SO GRATEFUL FOR THIS KNOWLEDGE AND DEEPER UNDERSTANDING AND BRIDGING SOME OF MY OWN INTEREST IN REFINING MY RESEACH AND PRACTISE. (CAPS ON ONLY BECAUSE I'M A TWO FINGER TAPPER, IT'D TAKE ME TOO LONG,).🎇

[@luisasalvini3867]

Love Joni❤️

[@claudialarsson7439]

Thank you both!!! WOW!! ❤ I’m a tiny bit familiar with Vedic as I’ve explored it from time to time. Have family members with roots in India. So I’ve always wanted to have an explanation that was understandable. This was all that and more! I k from a Vedic chart I am a Gemini rising with Sagittarius moon. I get caught up with Padas Dashas (sp?) etc. But I will say the houses and signs that planets fall in under Vedic system feel very comfortable. Thanks again!!

[@cb7324]

In Western astrology, I like to think of the 2nd house -- rather than childhood experiences -- as the resources you are born into, and then the 8th house as other people's resources as well as the world resources you tap into throughout life.

[@ruthanne13]

I am interested in Vedic Astrology. My chiropractor has his and his wife's done. He says it fits exactly. I am familiar with Western Astrology, and Whole Signs. The latter does not resonate for me. I have had a desire for more.

[@RightAllWays]

With all due regards, there are indications in a chart where it is almost guaranteed predestined due to extremely high amounts of karmic debt in that aspect and it will be very difficult to change it

[@lindaholman2630]

I think the answer to the planet in between two malefic planets is called Besieged. Listened to all of the Vedic before it came to me. 😇

[@ruthanne13]

So, that means my 24° Scorpio Sun stays the same? I love Sky Maps and use the App often.

[@Here_Today_]

What’s a good site to calculate a Vedic chart?

[@sharvedawellness]

Ohhhh you start at the moon, I am getting a reading from Joni This year. I have had so many misinformation crap asrolology readings and I know Joni is the Diamond,

[@AstrologyHubPod]

You have to let us know how your reading goes Shar!

[@atmanand5802]

🪔🥗📿I absolutely #love #Jyotish or #VedicAstrology, #Yoga, and #AyurVeda (#PanchaKosha), #Yuga, #Evolution. Love you both eternally. #Karma #Rebirth #Reincarnation #EllamOndre #TatTvamAsi #KalaPurusha #BrahmaVihara #AhamBrahmasmi, #TheSecretDoctrine, #PrecessionOfTheEquinox, #AutobiographyOfaYogi.💜⚕🌟

[@narendra672]

👏👏👏😀👍

[@srijana08]

Dashas not Doshas. Doshas comes into Ayurveda, means something completely different. It's like Son and Sun mean quite different things. 😁

[@RightAllWays]

Unfortunately many of the English translations of original Sanskrit text are not correct and that often changes meanings in a subtle way and often in a major way

[@Rhonda_Maldonado_61824]

I will be subbing to her channel. **Great** conversation ladies!!! 🌒🌕🌘