Vegas Pro 20 (and back to 15) long-term review: constant instability issues & too expensive 😒

[@crosstrainingenduro]

VERY POOR CUSTOMER SUPPORT In May 2023 many Vegas users (me included) suddenly found it was impossible to open the program unless you disconnected from the internet! We only discovered the cause by googling the problem, Vegas never contacted us to advise on the cause. Vegas also did nothing to acknowledge the problem beyond responding to inquiries on their forum. Eventually a patch was released but they did not advise any of us it was available. Hitting the 'updated software' link did nothing. Again, users had to search through forum posts to eventually discover the patch. Extremely poor customer support. VEGAS PRO 20 CRASHING CONTINUES I refused to 'upgrade' to the 20 version as reports continue of it crashing for many users. I believe if Vegas can't fix it from 15 to 19 then it will probably never come good. I highly recommend the free Da Vinci Resolve which is far better in most respects. 2022 LONG-TERM COMMENTS ON LATEST VEGAS PRO 19: The video was about the original 15 version, I've been monitoring each version up to 19. It's still not good news! Vegas Pro 19 has had four major updates now (build 643) and the same crashing occurs regularly. Generally it just crashes on average every 30 minutes like previous version (editing in 4k? Every five minutes on average!). As per the video, not everyone encounters this, but many of us do, for no explicable reason. I have been testing previous versions and no change unfortunately. It is hard to predict the crashes. Sometimes it occurs just after opening a file, sometimes it occurs between 10 to 60 minutes later. Sometimes in completely freezes the computer and even 'control alt delete' won't work. Thankfully the video files are very rarely corrupted, but I strongly suggest you save backups regularly to be safe. The good news? Rendering files has become faster, also watching a preview while editing has improved dramatically. Unfortunately the software is now getting very expensive and I think there are much better options available for the money... or for free! Please note some users do find Vegas Pro stable, but many of us don't... even with a clean install on brand new computers with no conflicting software. I know some users have zero problems, but there's a very significant number of us who can't fix the issues, despite long conversations with the Vegas support team. Into filming and editing? Everything I learn I put into this forum thread.... advrider.com/index.php?threads/any-tips-for-better-motorbike-videos.702090/

[@markgunnison]

I recently made the switch to DaVinci Resolve 15 and I love it. It was painful learning new software but I can do more much quicker now.

[@Amateurs2Roues]

I know you can transfer a Sony Vegas edit to DaVinci. I want to do it because I am familiar with the editing in Sony Vegas but I want to do color correction on Davinci. Did you do that?

[@markgunnison]

Amateurs 2 Roues I just started with Resolve when I was ready. I did not want to change mid edit.

[@crosstrainingenduro]

i didn't know that! i might give it a try in that case. the big problem is that i often go back to my older work in new vids so changing software would be very restrictive....

[@gumbyenduroadventures6225]

Yep, DaVinci is free and really good. It's free up to the point you want to create the Avatar movie anyway.

[@Mr_Beagle]

CROSS TRAINING ENDURO SKILLS I run a video production company here in the uk... we used premiere for years but that’s an unstable pile of crap too, and the subscription costs are terrible - we’ve always used davinci resolve for colour grading but have recently switched to using it as our main editing software too and it’s been absolutely superb... rock solid and very fast even on huge feature length projects, and the free version will serve you just fine so long as you don’t need to edit 4k projects or work collaboratively over a network. Give it a shot!

[@BcstEngineer]

I agree with the the review here. I have been using Vegas even before Sony took it over. It stayed pretty stable throughout the Sony years, but when MAGIX took over and pushed out the features, they also lost the stability. It is sad even with paying for the latest version 17 the results of having software that locks up several times a session is NOT what I was paying for. Why if it wasn't for the program saving itself in the background I would have moved on to something else by now. Restarting the program and hoping you can remember what you may have done in editing and going back checking everything once you performed a recover from crash feature? It gets very frustrating and I'm getting tired of dealing with it. Bells and whistles are one thing, but stability wins out over all of that crap.

[@crosstrainingenduro]

Thanks for the heads up, Thomas. I am still putting up with the regular crashing but did wonder if the latest version might be better. However I did not want to pay extra money to get the software working properly so it's good to know it would be pointless.

[@crosstrainingenduro]

Update: Eventually I did update when there was a decent special and it didn't cost much to upgrade. I thought the problems must surely be fixed by now... no. 😢

[@BcstEngineer]

I does help to turn off GPU acceleration in the preferences section.

[@crosstrainingenduro]

Yes, that was one of the things I tried very early on. I've just uploaded their latest build and unfortunately no change. It really is incredible they can let faults go for this long... and keep increasing the price.

[@RandysRides]

Been using Wondershare Filmora for a year. User friendly, never crashes, and has lots of features.

[@MaksGarmata]

i went from vegas to Final Cut Pro - and i really can't describe how happy i am with it!

[@danwilliams4820]

I edit educational and corporate videos with Vegas Pro 18 and find that for me it is the best editor to create a finished product quickly. On my system, the program is stable and rock solid. I have used many other programs, which all have their strengths, but I keep going back to Vegas when I need to make a deadline.

[@crosstrainingenduro]

That's great to hear, Dan. It's just a shame that a significant number of us find otherwise, and their customer support is unable to fix the issue.

[@AverageDaveVideos]

I was surprised by this video. I used 12 for the longest time and 15 for about a year. I have had 15 only crash once in that time. Obviously there is some difference between either OS, video file types, bitrate, something that causes such instability for you. Just my experience though, I have been quite happy with the $20 or so I spent on it via humble bundle.

[@crosstrainingenduro]

It certainly works well for some Dave, but unfortunately many like me have new PCs, updated drivers, no conflicting software, and then have it crashing every few minutes. I should add that turning off GPU acceleration means it will only crash every 20 minutes or so, but of course this is a feature I wanted. 😥 Sony Vegas 13 was quite stable and if you check on the forums many users revert to this despite it being very slow in rendering.

[@AverageDaveVideos]

@@crosstrainingenduro oh I can totally appreciate your position and i would dump it if I had your experience. Which is why I stopped using Adobe Premiere years ago as it was so unstable for me. I don't think you should put up with it. Just render everything and import into a new program if need be. Best of luck.. Stupid computers ;)

[@davidhalgunseth4934]

I've been using Movavi Video Suite 17. My videos are not the best at all, but the editing part of it seems to work very well. Think it was like 80 dollars or close to that. Again love your videos. Keep em coming mate. 👍

[@peterbennett4783]

Thanks, it sounds like you are ''on the level'' in your heart felt experience. Regards from Peter (Victoria, Aust.)

[@crosstrainingenduro]

cheers peter. yes i'm still persisting with it because so many of my frequently accessed older files are used still. it certainly teaches you save and back up continually!

[@25wasthespeedlimit40]

I started with PowerDirector13 & went to PowerDirector15. I have been very happy with 15 & can assume 16 is even better.

[@endspeed4032]

the only reason why i still use sony vegas is i dont have the time to learn something new, the overall laggy and instability is just mind blowing, and that with a really good Computer. Its hard to do a project fast because of it, and i dont have fun working on it at all. Dont get me wrong, on some days its smooth and the workflow is insane, but too often it crashes, laggs or has some other issues where people in 2011 had problems with.

[@crosstrainingenduro]

I know the feeling! Unfortunately so much of my work is tied up in previous versions of Vegas which I still use, so the despite all the issues I have continued with the software. I just have to continually save due to crashes every five to 10 minutes. There was a major update to the version 19 software last week which I hoped would fix the problem, but no.... same as always. 😢

[@Ants_Pants]

Been using vegas 13 for years, just recently upgraded for 19. Mostly because i'm familiar with the features/shortcuts where the tools are etc.. etc.. Cba to relearn all that crap in a new software. If v19 starts to crash constantly or cause other problems ill just go back to 13.

[@mikelouw4856]

I am trying out Vegas Pro 17. And it is a big jump ahead for me.Rendering times are less than half of what Vegas Pro 14 was. Plus a lot of extra bells and whistles.

[@crosstrainingenduro]

Yes 14 was very very slow to render. I upgraded to 15 hoping it would cure the crashing problem but it didn't... even on a brand new computer and the 'help' of their support team but at least it did render faster. The support team said I should upgrade again to solve the problem but I've already wasted enough money. 😢

[@loopduplicate]

Blender is free, libre, open source 3D and video editing software that has been around for around 20 years, is partially sponsored by the Netherlands, and is really fun to use if you are a very technical person. It will always be free. It has some cool advanced stuff too like motion tracking. The video editor in the program isn't the best, but then again, you don't have to pay anything. Adobe's stuff is solid, but expensive; Premiere Elements is stable and can edit just about any footage from any camera. Blender or Adobe for me, period.

[@Senditwithshan]

ive been using 12 since it came out and I've not had any issues lol. Apparently 16 is amazing, but I haven't tried it yet

[@crosstrainingenduro]

As per our pinned first comment, Shan... "I know some users have zero problems, but there's a very significant number of us who can't fix the issues, despite long conversations with the Vegas support team." Possibly it's a conflict with certain systems that the developers have never bothered to locate and fix over the past six years.

[@savillecreations8046]

Amen. I recently updated from V14 Pro Suite to v16 Pro Suite in June. Have had endless crashes. I too have a very powerful computer that is capable of 8k editing. Then Magix announces v17 six weeks after I updated from v14 to v16 and insisted I pay another $350. When I said that I have had nothing but issues and just updated six weeks earlier, they didn't care. I consider myself a professional filmmaker and producer. I have produced content for McDonald's, Land Rover, Ducati, Costco and many TV shows. I have held out switching to Adobe or DaVinci simply because of the learning curve as I work on deadlines. BUT...thanks to Magix NOT taking care of me, audios Magix Vegas and hello both Adobe Premiere and DaVinci Resolve.

[@crosstrainingenduro]

It's incredibly annoying and I face the same issues with deadlines so I'm still putting up with Vegas Pro for the time being. On average it crashes every 15 minutes so I save constantly and also create a backup file every 30 minutes.

[@savillecreations8046]

@@crosstrainingenduro ya me too. Constantly crashing. I do like Vegas but I can't continue with endless crashes and not caring that it keeps crashing and wants another $350.

[@eccentroworld3401]

I'm a video editor in LA who has spent most of my life in front of a computer screen. I've been editing video since Sony Vegas 4 came out. I remember always being amazed at how stable Vegas was. I used to leave long three hour chunks of video rendering overnight with tons of effects on cheap Celeron computers and it always worked perfectly. I remember Vegas 8 and 10 working fine. I still use Vegas 12 on some of my computers because Magix only gives you two activations of Vegas. Anyway, I never think I ever crashed in Vegas till I started using Vegas 14. Really irritating. I upgraded to Vegas 16 and wanted to tear my teeth out. It was crashing all the time and getting me in trouble with clients. What I finally did was contact Vegas and they let me delete my two Vegas 16 activations for two more Vegas 14 activations. I'm going to try finding my old Sony Vegas installation programs and see if they work. I think I'm going to wait till Vegas 20 comes out before I ever buy another Vegas upgrade.

[@crosstrainingenduro]

After fruitless chats with their help desk, I let Vegas know how unhappy I was and their only suggestion was to go for the next version... so shell out even more money for the same instability. 🤦‍♂️

[@kencampbell6037]

I've had the same issue with it being quite unstable, and their support department took me through a pile of "fixes" which didn't work. It was cheap but definitely not worth the hassle. Unfortunately I have a lot of work done using this software and need to stick with it for the time being. 😢

[@crosstrainingenduro]

Same here Ken. Eventually they said the only final possible solution might be a clean install on a new computer without any other software added yet. No, it still crashed regularly. Very very disappointing.

[@crosstrainingenduro]

Two years later... Eventually I did update when there was a decent special and it didn't cost much to upgrade. I thought the problems must surely be fixed by now... no. Same issues.

[@BryceandKyle]

I edit video for work. Use either of these programs: Adobe Premiere Elements/Pro, Final Cut Pro if you have Mac (Better timeline performance and render times than others), Davinci Resolve (Best free option). They're all used by big production companies and have better stability than Vegas products.

[@crosstrainingenduro]

I've heard those are the two main choices if you want to spend enough to go professional...

[@daknobbmeister]

There are definitely much better options around for the same price or just a little more. Even some of the free packages are far more stable and have the same features - in some cases more e.g. Da Vinci.

[@crosstrainingenduro]

In retrospect Da Vinci would have been a much better choice... and free! Despite the consistent crashing, I've persisted with Vegas Pro as I am constantly accessing my older files and changing software would be too disruptive. So I just save constantly, and create backup files too in case the Vegas file corrupts (rare, but it does happen).

[@LondonWildman]

Yup. I can relate. I'm stuck with Sony Vegas 13. I tried upgrading one time, and 15 was SOO slow and chunky. I'm hesitant in switching to different software for the same reasons you are.

[@crosstrainingenduro]

what are your computer specs, london? i did the same upgrade on my old computer (quad core and reasonably fast) and it ran like a dog. i've just upgraded to a new PC (i7-7700HQ CPU @ 2.80GHz, 2808 Mhz, 4 Core(s), 8 Logical Processor(s) 16GB RAM Nvidia GTX1050) and it does run reasonably well e.g. renders in half the time now but this still only matches the rendering speed of cyberlink power director four years ago.

[@LondonWildman]

@@crosstrainingenduro I'm running an older server machine, but it's got 2 quad core cpu's in it (2x Xeon E5410, 2.33GHz), equalling 8 total cores. It's got lots of processing power. 15 didn't run to good on it. I think it rendered fairly quick, but the UI was just chunky and slow. Back to Vegas 13 and it was smooth again. I may try out some of the ones you suggested in the video. FYI - My good friend Matt bought the '18 Beta 300rr demo bike that you used this year while in Canada. It was sent to Lang's offroad where he picked it up a few months ago! Sweet Bike! :)

[@crosstrainingenduro]

it might come down to the video card too, london. one thing to check though for rendering, try the magix hevc/AAC codec instead of the magix AVC/AAC or the old sony codecs. at least double the speed if your video card allows GPU processing. i hope matt's bike hasn't blown up after all my abuse lol.

[@LondonWildman]

@@crosstrainingenduro Cool, I'll check those rendering settings out, thanks! His bike seems to be holding up so far! :)

[@JoeJoeMoto]

Yep, I use and love Cyberlink.

[@cspoon123]

Final Cut is easy to use and does well on updating software with one time cost. Just need to consider the cost of switching to Mac. Adobe Premiere works great too, just not as easy to use as Final Cut, only costs a monthly subscription and the Creative suite is updated regularly.

[@crosstrainingenduro]

unfortunately i've always been PC based due to a lack of funds chris, so all my mac friends just roll their eyes when i complain about the usual issues lol.

[@johansegernas]

+1 for Davinci Resolve free. I just started out editing creating some onboard videos when I race, didn’t take me many hours to get started from scratch. Creating interesting videos however will take me years and years...

[@crosstrainingenduro]

i'm certainly no expert johan, but everything i learn i put into the forum thread below. i think the basics for interesting videos are: - be vicious in editing and only keep the good bits of vid - tell a story, even if it's just text on the screen - if you choose music pick something most people will like and keep it subdued. advrider.com/index.php?threads/any-tips-for-better-motorbike-videos.702090/

[@Sweetmanmoto]

I feel your pain. I have become conditioned to fearfully safe my project every 5 minutes and to only render a video before leaving my computer to eat a big meal :)

[@crosstrainingenduro]

tell me about it lol. i save every 10 seconds then every five minutes i create a backup file too. as per another comment though, once i turned off GPU acceleration it only crashed about a half to a third as often. i did find vegas pro 15 rendered faster though, using the new magix AAC encoder. have you tried that?

[@Sweetmanmoto]

I've turned off the GPU acceleration but haven't experimented with the magix ACC encoder. Thanks for the tip - I'll give it a go

[@MrDuhfactor]

I couldn't take power director anymore, so went with adobe premier.... holy cow... never crashes, super powerful, but spendy...

[@EachAdventure]

I use Adobe Premiere Elements and it seems to work pretty well when I ran it on Windows. The Mac version crashes on me at least once per project video but I have been able to deal with it for now. That sucks about the positive reviews though: I hate how that has become the norm rather than the exception these days.

[@crosstrainingenduro]

agreed, i'm fed up with all these rave reviews from supposed product testers... and of course it's rife through the dirt bike industry too.

[@zeelat9648]

It’s normal you have to put the previlisation at bad so

[@KRLEHD]

Hey mate, can you tell me what hardware do you use with sony vegas? I do have a bit lagging when doing fadein effect, but i actually fixed problems with rendering time when upgraded to enterprise drivers from AMD GPU. I am at the version 17 but was planning to maybe upgrade to newer version but who knows, maybe i'll stay on it for a bit longer.

[@crosstrainingenduro]

Just a gaming laptop which is fine for rendering at 1080p.... HP Omen.

[@KRLEHD]

@@crosstrainingenduro That's good enough, well vegas sucks. Just done one project and had problems with vegas :( . Thanks for replay by the way.

[@ilyk49]

Well I certainly haven't had the problems you mention with VP 15. I don't have any crashes like you describe - it has always been stable. Power Director is nowhere near as efficient or as good an editor - VP 15 is miles ahead of PD as an editor. Your review is nothing like my experience with VP15.

[@crosstrainingenduro]

As per the review, I'm discussing the number of people who find it unstable. I'm glad it's working for you. 😊

[@flaccidenduro6888]

Wondershare Filmora. My videos turn out quite good.👍

[@tietur8463]

You can try Vegas Pro 16, I personally have pretty good experience with it.

[@crosstrainingenduro]

unfortunately i've had so many negative experiences over the past four years i couldn't fork out more money on the off chance it might be more stable. 😥 it's just a pity i reference my old work so often that a change to better software would be a nightmare.

[@WhyRushRacing1]

I tell people that I use iMovie because it is free. You just have to pay an arm and a leg for the computer.

[@thehardcorecasual9444]

Haha, I still use vegas 13, best version so far. Better and faster preview and editing flow than premier. Too bad Vegas has no external media encoder to queue multiple videos away from the main program.

[@unrealone1]

Vegas pro 16 is very stable no issues made 100 videos with it..

[@crosstrainingenduro]

As per the review, some find it stable, others don't... no matter how many calls they make to the support line. I don't know what the instability rate is, but lets say hypothetically it is an unstable platform for at least 20% of users then it is a poor quality product.

[@unrealone1]

@@crosstrainingenduro May be upload the project if it is unstable so other people can try it? I find the video format to be an issue in stability. convert to an mp4 format works for me

[@crosstrainingenduro]

I have used mp4 files for years, it does not appear to be the issue. If anything, version 19 seems to be worse than previous ones too.

[@unrealone1]

@@crosstrainingenduro Would be a good idea to share your project that is crashing bad. Im using 16 and have zero issues. Previous Vegas crashed constantly

[@mmtv_au]

Hitfilm Express is slow. Davinci Resolve free edition is pretty stable but you gotta have a dedicated GPU installed. I used Vegas for years and experienced exactly the same issues. Often I'd try rendering a big project that would take hours, and then a percentage of the way through it would crash and I'd have to try again. It would crash again, and I'd have to try again. It's too bad. I think the workflow is the easiest and fastest. But I think it's still built on the codebase of the Soundforge audio software it was originally built on top of. I think it would be massively popular if they recorded the core codebase. Recently Resolve let me down, and the company, understandably, wouldn't give me tech support for the free version so I installed Hitfilm Express. But then it doesn't do titles so I paid a bit of money to get the basic functionality. But, I find Hitfilm to be laggy. Nice software but it;s laggy and some of the workflow is tedious. I don't like it. I'm gonna try the Studio version of Davinci Resolve because it has the best workflow and is relatively stable.

[@crosstrainingenduro]

i suspect we will always suffer in some way using cheap software... or even free. i certainly wasn't very impressed with the support offered either, but again i guess you only get what you pay for.

[@jtjones717]

I picked up a drz400 yesterday. Im looking for radiator guards and skid plates, so far im thinking about a unabiker radiator guard and b&b skid plate. Any suggestions or comments?

[@crosstrainingenduro]

all our comments were in our DRZ400 vid, jacob kzbin.info/www/bejne/enO3hKRuhMmKf8U

[@jtjones717]

@@crosstrainingenduro thanks i'll give it a look!

[@jtjones717]

@@crosstrainingenduro i watched both videos and haven't seen anything i was looking for

[@crjmoto]

It depends on the brand of moto...

[@emilskukojs3783]

Davinci Resolve Free Stable but Hard to understand.

[@CustomcrowdMitroc]

What are the specs of your computer?

[@crosstrainingenduro]

i7-7700HQ CPU @ 2.80GHz, 2808 Mhz, 4 Core(s), 8 Logical Processor(s) 16GB RAM Nvidia GTX1050

[@WesleyRomeo]

Highly recommend CyberLink PowerDirector. For more info, see kzbin.info/aero/PLuH-wDbssdvtYBM6olFg00l_YR5q0ulBX

[@crosstrainingenduro]

i wish i had paid a little bit extra and gone with that four years ago.... 😥

[@CleanDay420]

Wow spot on. I have a project due tomorrow and this shitty clunky software keeps crashing after rendering for +2 hours. Im ready to pull my hair out in frustration. Horrible program, horrible render speed, and horrible support online. Im in the same boat as I was a stupid child that edited with this about 4 years ago and now I’m paying the price. Its also my fault that I waited until last minute to make a project. Fuck VEGAS fuck magix. I told myself I’m never going back to vegas after this. Switching over to Adobe. Im done. Great video

[@bengilmour4321]

I always assumed you must have top of the line video editing software given that everyone you ride with are so good looking. It must take some time to render those imperfections out....

[@crosstrainingenduro]

some riders more so than others lol

[@korshm]

In my case both v13 and v16 have similar acceptable stability.

[@crosstrainingenduro]

good to hear, korshm. i found vegas pro 15 was more stable if i turned off gpu acceleration but of course that was one of the reasons i upgraded. 😥 once this is turned off vegas pro 15 only crashes every 30 minutes or so instead of every 10 minutes on average. i have to keep backing up my work regularly in case the file really goes to shit...

[@korshm]

@@crosstrainingenduro no real crashes in my case. All versions sometimes can hang on for 1-3minutes, but continues working after. Have you tested your hardware? Have you overclocked it? If yes, try using standard frequences

[@jayteddy7270]

Try DaVinci Resolve

[@Skooper]

Vegas Pros software is about as stable as a horse with legs made out of razor scooters, I just gave up used premiere

[@crosstrainingenduro]

Unfortunately yes. Every update I'm hoping the issues will be resolved but it just keeps failing. With the latest update I now have a new error! Every hour or two it will suddenly fail to link to the audio files and I have to re-open the file. The regular crashing has not changed at all. When it was cheap software, it was acceptable. But with their high prices now it should be much much better. 😒

[@mikefurughi540]

I bought Vegas Pro 18 and I regret it. It is incredibly unstable and frustrating to use. It crashes all the time when I'm doing just normal kind of editing, nothing too heavy or complicated and I have a reasonably fast computer. My last video took two days to render and I couldn't turn it off. I was scared of doing anything else on the computer incase it made the software stop and crash! There are much better alternatives out there.

[@crosstrainingenduro]

I have got into the habit of saving every minute, Mike. The Vegas support team eventually just told me to upgrade but I see the same complaints from users with version 16, 17 and 18. And it's not cheap software anymore. 😢

[@mikefurughi540]

@@crosstrainingenduro Thanks, I learnt that lesson too the hard way and I save almost with every other click lol . I am thinking it might have a hard time dealing with different videos shot at different settings ie shot at 30fpc and then the next at 60fps or one video shot at HD and another at 4k. I am experimenting letting the software adjust for me rather than me keeping the setting I set when starting a new project. Any thoughts?

[@crosstrainingenduro]

After thousands of hours I can't see any pattern at all, Mike. 😢

[@253ebutuoy]

Of all the software on my PC, Vegas 12.0 & 15.0 are the most unstable programs. Vegas can crash at any moment. Rendering is no different as it can fail when using 3 party transitions. Magix video edit software has gotten worse thru the years. Which i started with Adobe Premier or just about anything but Magix Vegas.

[@crosstrainingenduro]

The bizarre thing is it doesn't happen for everyone. So there must be a conflict with certain operating systems or other software that they just haven't discovered? Their support crew must be passing on the feedback so it's strange that the crashing has occurred for so many years now without any solution.

[@BR500]

I used to use Final Cut Pro on mac until I knocked a can of coke onto it. 😂Currently building a new windows PC where im going to be using Adobe Premiere Pro and DaVinci Resolve.

[@user-sp8eb6iz7f]

Why do limies say "sorted" ??

[@crosstrainingenduro]

i think it's more a case of why isn't it used in the USA... i think the UK exported this to most english speaking countries. 😊

[@user-sp8eb6iz7f]

@@crosstrainingenduro We say "under the hood", you all say "under the bonnet" - moto on - good vids!!

[@NuwandaSC]

I can recommend the free and open-source kdenlive - kdenlive.org/en/. It worked well for the simple use-cases I had. If you are running a Linux (or want to try the Windows version) then give it a shot! :)

[@dirtbikesicehockey4788]

Was this about video editing or your riding style?..,.LOL Sorry couldn't resist

[@Amateurs2Roues]

Windows Movie Maker forever ❤

[@EddyOtway]

Amateurs 2 Roues yeah I’m still using movie maker lol

[@PTMG]

Yikes that's the worst 10 years of Windows Movie Maker is what made me want to buy a real video editor. Movie maker is nice if you are editing standard definition, or like 720HD, or maybe really short like 5-10(RAW) minute 1080p videos with relatively little editing. In my experience moviemaker is a glitchy crash fest and takes centuries to render videos.

[@MrSamadolfo]

☺️

[@LockStockNBarrel]

For everyone watching this video, power director is the answer.

[@michalzurek8165]

it's illegal to take a motocross bike intto the forest

[@crosstrainingenduro]

In most first world countries, this is usually the case unless recreational registration is available. But on private properties as per this vid? Completely legal.

[@michalzurek8165]

@@crosstrainingenduro how do you prove this is private property?

[@crosstrainingenduro]

I have no interest in proving anything to you, Michal. If you watch our videos we often talk about the need to ride responsibly... don't annoy non-riders, keep your bikes quiet, don't cause environmental damage, do it legally. If you don't trust us, that isn't our problem. kzbin.info/www/bejne/p6alhYmdqd-Vl7c

[@michalzurek8165]

@@crosstrainingenduro what I know is that even protected areas are plagued with people on motor bikes, of course you say that everything you do is legal and responsible what else you can tell, anyway I see you are devastating some forest, doesn't matter if private property, do you really must bring these machines to the forests, cannot you ride on the tracks?

[@Rraven19]

Everything is dodgy...bOoOpP

[@chuckfinley3152]

Avid

[@von5187]

tbh you are wrong sir...Sony Vegas is the best

[@crosstrainingenduro]

it does seem to be stable for some users which is great news.... in which case it will be great software for that price.

[@OZGURDOKDOK]

All desktop apps are bullshit. I prefer Powerdirector app for mobile phone. It is much more easy and fast for editing. Sure not very professional vids but you can do %90 of all editing tools by your mobile phone. Rest %10 is for pro editors like you :))

[@crosstrainingenduro]

i wish i was a pro lol. there's still so much i don't know and i've been thinking of finding some free (or very cheap) online courses to find out more about colour correction and post production etc.

[@Michael_Lak]

Nice try. Vegas pro 19 wasn't out in 2019

[@crosstrainingenduro]

And a poor try by you. You clearly didn't read the video description or pinned first comment.