Vehicle Graveyard Avdiivka Ukraine

[@vaclav_fejt]

This feels like a Call of Duty intro sequence.

[@Chosen_Ash]

Wait 10 years

[@roryokane5907]

“Ramirezevsky! Push forward!”

[@xxxy9928]

more like madmax imo

[@P4Tri0t420]

Reality is not to compare to a f****** game.

[@RextheDragon881]

Kinda reminds me of the future sequence in original Terminator. All the destroyed vehicles, just no killer robots

[@jprehberger]

I bet the person who shot the video had no idea the degree to which it would be analyzed. 😄

[@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized]

I also wonder what the whole story is, I mean one guy shot the video, someone edited it, someone added as soundtrack this song: kzbin.info/www/bejne/d5unioCAarmHbpo Then someone shared it on telegram. This might all the same person, it might be a different person each time.

[@user-ui8jt6cx2k]

@@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized As this video is shot behind the russian frontline you can actually spin the context - those could be ukrainian vehicles. Remember, most people do not have the experience for assessing losses properly.

[@LayronPK]

​@@user-ui8jt6cx2k those vans you see in the video, they called "buhanka", like a brick of bread. They are used mostly by russians, since they still produce those and have vast amounts of them. Ukraine don't use it as much because you can't acquire them in such quantities and, quite honestly, they are total garbage. You can get few from civilian market, but that's it.

[@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized]

​@@user-ui8jt6cx2k Yeah, I should have stated it explicitly that the destroyed vehicles are here likely from both sides.

[@bubba842]

​@@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualizedbut you didn't though. You even said "Russian Road of Death", implying that they are all Russian vehicles. There is a thin line between actual journalism and propaganda. Something most journalists need to learn.

[@dmytrogolovchenko2757]

Red car converted to cabrio was not Lada Samara but ZAZ Slavuta

[@malcolm5514]

What is he talking about there? Did he mean convertible? I'm not familiar with the word he used in any language I know of haha

[@in_absentia]

@@malcolm5514 Cabriolet?

[@BlueCollar80]

red? I thought it was pink

[@locusmortis]

@@BlueCollar80 it looked like a Barbie car lmao

[@BlueCollar80]

@@locusmortis That's what I mean, I thought Ken was having a tour in Ukraine 💀

[@marocho129]

Just imagine how a soldier going to the front line through this scarp yard must feel...

[@gandydancer9710]

Somewhat similarly to the French on La Voie Sacrée behind Verdun. The more things change the more they remain the same.

[@dzonikg]

But they are still adwancing ,Advika has fallen 4 months ago and since then they advanced 20+ km on this road

[@D64nz]

Considering that it's mostly Ukrainian equipment I'm sure it gives them confidence but also reminds them of the seriousness of their situation.

[@가니메데]

@D64nz those are Russian. Ukrainians operating near Avdiivka used Western armored vehicles.

[@가니메데]

@dzonikg yeah at this rate they'll be in Kyiv in 300 years while losing 5 million men

[@dukenukem8381]

Correction at 8:45 is a Zaz-1103 Slavuta stolen from local civilian car. Not a Lada. Zaz is a Ukrainian car brand.

[@puzzled012]

stolen? so you know all the details, the owner legitimate and not so legitimate ...

[@TheeWolfiee1]

@@puzzled012well if zaz comes from Ukraine, is produced in Ukraine and is now being used by Russian soldiers it’s probably not bought legally… maybe stealing has a different meaning in barbarian Russia 🤔

[@Homobikerus]

​@@TheeWolfiee1way too many assumptions here. There's a number of totally different possible scenarios.

[@maryanchabursky9148]

@@puzzled012well maybe if ruSSian soldiers didn’t keep stealing stuff maybe people wouldn’t assume

[@ux-zd6hu]

@@TheeWolfiee1 ZAZ produced cars only in the USSR, after creation of an independent Ukranian state it bankrupted.

[@bons7823]

a lot of wrecks but it is possible that some are ukrainien wrecks too. It was the main supply road for the ukrainien army during the fight of avdiivka

[@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized]

Yeah, I should have mentioned that explicitly.

[@sailingkadussa5675]

No, ukrainians don’t lose vehicules...😊

[@fedoresko]

For a few month active frontline stood right along this road, or more precisely along railways on the right, which form a natural cover. The road itself goes on the Russian side of this front.

[@hondaegg6]

​@@sailingkadussa5675🤡

[@dildo196]

no western stuff so it seems though

[@marcusott2973]

Much awaited, much appreciated excellent insights as always from you.

[@seanp9277]

In addition to being a route of advance for the Russian army, that road was also the Ukrainian army's main supply and reinforcement route during the battle of Avdiivka. It was also one of the main retreat routes for them.

[@gandydancer9710]

So, how many of these vehicles (and bodies) are Ukrainian? How are they recorded in the Oryx database and why?

[@dzonikg]

Actually Ukrainian's did not widwor try this road but to the west ,most Ukrainans loses were in Berdicki which is 3 km west from this road

[@gandydancer9710]

@@dzonikgThx. "widwor try" = "withdraw via", I presume.

[@D64nz]

The Ukrainians were using this road to resupply and reinforce for many months even while Russia had it until full fire control. Anything that moved was subject to immediate artillery and drone strikes yet the Ukrainians kept trying well past the point they should have pulled out, and we see the results of that decision here.

[@scatterlite2266]

​@@D64nz do we? There is no uniquely Ukrainian vehicle in this vid. Only that second tank is likely an ukrainian T-64. The rest is a pretty typical mix of russian vehicles, specially all the golf carts.

[@Kumimono]

One does indeed wonder about the, distribution of armored vs unarmored stuff, whether a place like this might be an example of a, reverse survivor bias?

[@Del_S]

Maybe. I'd bet a fair few armoured vehicles were only damaged, and got pulled back - chances are some of the wrecks might have already been down the road a few times before until their luck totally ran out. Unarmoured vehicles, well, a drone or artillery shell is way more likely to take that out entirely.

[@looinrims]

Nah it’s more so purpose, civilian vehicles are something they can buy from China for the war and so they use them for behind the line duties but that doesn’t make them safe from drones and artillery Or they could’ve been used as transport or CASEVAC and got caught, something Ukraine is struggling with. Armored vehicles are of course used in the attack but must be mustered and then trundle forward to the FLOT

[@littlekong7685]

@@Del_S Even grenades or machine gun ambushes will take out a civilian transport and wouldn't touch a basic armoured vehicle. Heck, even road debris can pop a tire and force the vehicle to be abandoned to be later destroyed when fighting enters the area where a track would just roll over it.

[@jamesrowlands8971]

@@littlekong7685 the road debris thing is a huge issue I bet. A bit of shrapnel slashing a tire. At worst it causes issues for the track that can be fixed. But it's unlikely. But it can stop a truck completely. And now it's a sitting target for artillery or drones.

[@bubba842]

Civilians were evacuated a long time ago from these areas.

[@mikyas392]

it is interesting that every destroyed soviet era vehicle is considered a Russian loss. But most of Ukrainian armored vehicles to this day are soviet era.

[@jmantime]

Both Russian and Ukrainian forces have been using unarmored civilian vehicles fitted with weapons since 2014, i've also seen a ton of homemade armored vehicles converted from both old military utility vehicles like GAZ-66 or Ford / Toyota trucks.

[@el_Contra]

jmantime, thanks for your videos, they are awesome!!!

[@schlangen7889]

Total equipment - 58. 16 goose vehicles and 42 wheeled vehicles Wheeled vehicles: UAZ 452 ''Buhanka' (different versions) - 18 Desertcross 1000-3 - 4 GAZ-66 'Shishiga' - 3 BTR - 3 UAZ 469 'UAZik' - 2 VAZ 2107 'Lada' - 1 VAZ 2131 'Lada' - 1 ZIL 131 - 1 KamAZ-6350 with armored cab -1 Twisted equipment beyond recognition - 7 Hard to distinguish car make - 1 Of these, only 4 wheeled vehicles (KAMAZ with an armored cab and an armored personnel carrier) can be considered 100% military; everything else has military and civilian versions. Only VAZ 2107, VAZ 2131 and one more car that is not an established brand, these are only purely civilian cars. And guessing whether it’s military or not is nonsense. The equipment that the military uses becomes military by default. The equipment could have been issued by the army or the soldiers themselves bought it on the civilian market. Volunteers could have given it to them, or they found it abandoned in some garage and repaired it. Tracked vehicles: BMP - 8 MT-LB - 5 Tank - 3

[@dukenukem8381]

"Found" a Zaz 1103 with Ukrainian plates and most likely unlived owners.

[@gandydancer9710]

Thanks. How many of these vehicles are exclusively Russian and how many exclusively Ukrainian and how many are used (excluding captures) by both sides?. I'm curious how Oryx treats the ones shown here.

[@fedoresko]

@@gandydancer9710 all of these are soviet vehicles used by both sides, except T-64 (if it is not T-72) which is used by Ukraine only and Desertcross 1000 which are more likely used by Russia.

[@schlangen7889]

@@gandydancer9710 Everything is mixed here, Ukrainian and Russian equipment. This technique is used by both sides of the conflict. There are exceptions, but this is just that, an exception against the general background. Exception: Desertcross 1000-3 KamAZ-6350 with armored cab And two armored personnel carriers, BTR-82A and BTR-80 with an additional set of armor (factory production) Everything else can be Russian, or maybe Ukrainian. Oryx presents itself as an objective source. But for some reason, they underestimate Ukrainian losses and exceed Russian ones. One destroyed tank but photographed on different days and from different angles is considered different by them. All T-72s are by default assigned to the Russian side, but the Ukrainian army also has T-72s in service. Also, the Ukrainian army captured T-72B3s in decent numbers during the Kharkov operation, but Oryx doesn’t care about that.

[@schlangen7889]

@@fedoresko T-64s were used by the LDPR militia. But when the LDPR militias joined the Russian Armed Forces, they stopped using the T-64

[@JohnStoddart1010]

Really interesting analysis behind the front lines.

[@ThatOneGuy-mn6dv]

The problem in this war and what is being posted in the media war is though a bigger problem on the pro-Ukrainian side but does happen too on the pro-Russian side is when you see armor units in ruin they paint it as the other side and no actual vetting to see if they belong to one side or the other. Word of wisdom regardless of which side you're on don't trust the numbers or the reports of losses not just in this conflict but in general in pretty all active conflicts.

[@ctrlaltdebug]

That's Oryx to you.

[@sababugs1125]

Even if you assume 30% of Russian losses are Ukrainian, it's still in favour of Ukraine

[@ThatOneGuy-mn6dv]

@@sababugs1125 Seeing how much Ukraine has lost and what the Russians are able to replace I can't see how this in Ukraine "favour" it shows the other way around.

[@sababugs1125]

@@ThatOneGuy-mn6dv in terms of material, the Russians have lost way more Replacing a tank with a golf cart isn't really replacing

[@ThatOneGuy-mn6dv]

@@sababugs1125 But on what? Both sides largely use the same said units that unless you have a anal guy like said Red Effect looking into each said one they could be either Russian or Ukrainian ones. All the people saying the Russians lost "X" in anything have all been proven BS and over the top then was actually sent over. If anything it's shown to be the other way around heavily.

[@billwit7878]

I can see just as many abandoned vehicles driving thru Detroit.

[@purpul2399]

America is a bad state as well...

[@casuallyretarded5161]

Brainrot. You're not being wounded by Artillery in detroit

[@MattP-lb5np]

You see corpses and destroyed bmp’s in Detroit? WOW

[@amazingdany]

@@purpul2399The greatest land of opportunities and second chances that is the USA is unfortunately terribly ill, beyond recovery. 😢

[@CrashNTheBoys2002]

@@MattP-lb5npcorpses yes, bmps no but the point is still well made.

[@ForelliBoy]

mad maxim: fyodor road

[@zhufortheimpaler4041]

*Vodka Road

[@QALibrary]

This was very interesting - thank you for the share and especially the time you put into it

[@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@QALibrary]

@@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized it was very educational

[@Misselfilmen]

There is a tank turret at 4:34 too, left of the blown-up scooby doo van. Barrel looks to long and thick to be a BMP-3.

[@nvelsen1975]

3:52 Petition for a university to make MHV an honourary emeritus prof Soviet Vanologist. 😆

[@gandydancer9710]

Is that sentence supposed to be in English?

[@gadielplays2419]

​@@gandydancer9710Emeritus prof is a Retired Professor

[@gandydancer9710]

@@gadielplays2419 That I already know. You haven't advanced the elucidation of the sentence at all. Now do "Soviet Vanologist". Also, why the similarly excess capitalization of "Retired Professor"?

[@kirotheavenger60]

I'm not sure how common vehicle recovery is - it certainly seems that 'finishing off' disabled vehicles is very common practice. I'm sure part of the reason none of the vehicles are salvagable is indeed that all salvageable vehicles had been recovered, but I don't think there would have been many vehicles recovered either.

[@T.efpunkt]

It's save to assume that both sides try to roger all abandoned vehicles with drones to prevent recovery.

[@thepinkplushie]

Numbers are impossible to determine but there's a lot of evidence that recovery has been of critical importance to both sides. Russia appears to have several factories/workshops primarily dedicated to refurbishing, repairing and upgrading recovered vehicles. On the Ukrainian side I've seen some footage of recovery actually being done. While "finishing off" is good practice in theory, in reality it is significantly better for 2 attacks to be focused on two different vehicles, rather than a repeat attack on one. Making a vehicle combat ineffective is of far higher importance than catastrophic kills. Recovery is part of logistics and requires manpower and fuel, and destroyed vehicles attract more destroyed vehicles. That said most recovery operations are being done very far behind the front, due to drones and artillery. Ukraine has one several occasions targeted locations with many destroyed vehicles again, knowing a lot of logistics will be running through that route. I'm sure Russia does the same though I haven't personally seen footage of it, due to the differences in outlets posting Ukrainian vs. Russian footage.

[@gandydancer9710]

@@thepinkplushie Crews or engineers often blow up disabled vehicles if they anticipate that the area may fall under control of the enemy. Provision is made ahead of time to do this. No drones required nor is it desirable to use one up on such a task if simple explosives will do the job. A lack of disabled vehicles means merely that the area has been scoured for repairable ones and probably has not been contested for some time.. Question of interest to me: How many of these vehicles could have been Ukrainian and how were they entered into the Oryx database?

[@jintsuubest9331]

​@@gandydancer9710 I thought oryx stop updating? But anyway, I believed oryx has their methodology published.

[@obsidianjane4413]

@@gandydancer9710 That is not evident in the Russian army in Ukraine. I think you are projecting Western SOP and expectations on Russian forces. They often leave disabled vehicles with no sign of intent of either demo or recovery. When they breakdown or get hit, the crew just bails. There might eventually be an attempt at recovery, but in many cases this is very slow given the poor state of Russian logistics. That is why you see so many "finishing off" videos from the Ukrainians.

[@birdmonster4586]

I suspect the device mounted on the front of the driving vehicle is a short range Jammer. It seems to be missing, or otherwise not equipped with at least one Antenna on the left since what looks like a antenna mount and the very large radiator is quite reminiscent of the old THOR II Backpacks from Afghanistan. Obviously these things can put out a lot of heat, especially if they are just trying to jam as many frequencies as possible. So some backpack Jammers run with a few fans not to dissimilar to the Fans on a PC. This isn't uncommon, There are some images of MT-LBs and other Russian vehicles with backpack Jammers mounted on them for ad hoc drone protection.

[@MM22966]

That Samara car at the start...Isn't that the same general kind of cutdown 80's war wagon Corporal Reese was in, in the first Terminator film? You know, the one getting chased by the H-K drone??? How oddly prophetic James Cameron was.

[@obsidianjane4413]

I thought the whole video was very post apocalyptic...

[@DimoB8]

Well one was cobbled together by a desperate army in a bombed out post apocalyptic hellscape and the other vehicle is in the terminator universe

[@JustAsPlanned1]

That was Ukrainian made Slavuta. Late 90s model

[@MM22966]

@@DimoB8 ...while being chased by killer robots from the air (both) Scifi isn't fiction, it's predestination by human imagination.

[@islandwills2778]

The scap metal recyclers are going to have a field day when this war is over lol

[@craigtheng]

Wasn't this exact road the "Road of Life" that was supplying most of Avdiivka once Russia started trying to really take it?

[@T.efpunkt]

@@craigtheng no, that road was further south and went west - east, not north - south.

[@mikusoxlongius]

Hard to differentiate between Russian and Ukrainian wrecks.

[@T.efpunkt]

@@mikusoxlongius you can use deepstates to look at this very section of the front, going back in time. Unlikely that there are ukrainian vehicles on that road.

[@EsotericBachaBazism]

@@mikusoxlongius Ukraine didn't use soviet vehicles in Avdiivka, nor do they have them in great quantities

[@tasoszonios5021]

@@EsotericBachaBazism stop spaming lies ukraine uses more soviet vehicles than nato counterparts they just like to frame the wrecks as russian

[@RextheDragon881]

Nice video. Haven't seen one with this type of format. Good work

[@borissokachev1471]

IFV volvos stuffed like clown cars, stolen rugs, assault bikes, battle taxi scooters with 2-3 occupiers on each.. Truly a "special" military operation.

[@frigityfaceJR]

Oh they are *special* alright lol

[@kuunoooo7293]

Hey if it works why fix it ?

[@TheKsalad]

​@kuunoooo7293 Its not working, were just seeing sadder and sadder targets for FPV drones

[@thepinkplushie]

Both sides extensively use civilian-style vehicles in the rear lines as it reduces the need for specialized military vehicles and supplements losses. Motorcycles have been used extensively by all sides of pretty much every major conflict in history since the Spanish Civil War at least. Being critical of Russia is good, they're self evidently in the wrong in this conflict. Being mindlessly critical just misrepresents things and forces people to adopt double standards. There's extensive footage of Ukrainian forces using civilian vehicles in the rear lines. A much more substantive criticism would be that this video shows a stolen Ukrainian civilian vehicle. Looting from civilians is something substantively wrong shown in this video. Russian soldiers using civilian vehicles in and of itself however is a completely logical thing to do, and they've clearly put some thought into it and adapted to the battlefield by cutting off the roof for easy dismount. They aren't mindless orcs, they're humans. That doesn't make what they're doing better, it makes it worse. Mindless orcs know no better. Human beings know better and yet still commit these crimes. Dehumanizing the enemy only hurts yourself.

[@gandydancer9710]

@@thepinkplushie Trying to get Uke fans to write rationally is a fool's errand. You fall for this yourself a bit. What vehicle are you identifying as "stolen" as opposed to "requisitioned"? Do you think that only Russian soldiers do this? Why?

[@300guy]

Wow that BTR-80 is straight out of Mad Max, just needing a leather clad bondage guy hanging over the nose!

[@JH-lo9ut]

9:14 That rug really tied that wrecked car together.

[@W1se0ldg33zer]

I would speculate that the majority of these were Ukrainian as most of them look like they were facing in the direction of Avdiivka. The Ukrainians sent a lot of re-enforcements and supplies to the town down that road. They tried to hold that road and the railroad tracks for years. The areas that were edited out probably had more Russian vehicles.

[@danielkarlsson9326]

Some might be like BMP and MTLBs and maybe a tank or two but the most of them was vehicles only Russia Use in quantity such as the chines golf cars and the Scooby vans.

[@W1se0ldg33zer]

@@danielkarlsson9326 Really hard to say. The Ukrainians used Abrams around that area too.

[@tavish4699]

That bmp1 at the end for sure I don’t think the Russians use that many of them and it was parked neetly on the entrance of the village facing the enemy It must have been hit by a Russian drone

[@Ailasher]

@@danielkarlsson9326 That would be true if the West was sending hundreds of tanks and IFVs to help Ukraine. So far, both sides are fighting mostly with Soviet equipment.

[@Ailasher]

@@danielkarlsson9326 186 (in total) Bradleys, a couple of hundred of M113s (literally Scooby vans, especially compared to the older BMPs). Yes, of course, the entire Ukrainian army is a NATO standart now. (sarcasm)

[@Elongated_Muskrat]

Run out of tanks, run out of IFVs, now using bikes and 4 wheelers. I wonder when horses will make their appearance.

[@WangMingGe]

We Ukrainians have already begun to make use of horses, either to pull wounded on sledges in winter or to carry mobile infantry carrying javelins, though the numbers are very small and it is likely out of choice (mobility in woods, perhaps) not practical desperation. You can find photos of these things by googling.

[@renrutmat]

The Russians have probably eaten all of them in their zones.

[@MrChickennugget360]

bikes and light utility vehicles are very useful in this war. High number of Drones means that its extremely dangerous behind the front lines, and motorcycles are at least fast making you harder to hit. Both Russians and Ukrainians are using them. its just the sad reality of modern war.

[@avus-kw2f213]

Russia has only run out of 20% of tanks & IFV

[@Elongated_Muskrat]

@@avus-kw2f213 then why not use them?

[@push3kpro]

That Samara made me.

[@marcusott2973]

@@push3kpro the LadaCamino with the rug wasn't half bad either.

[@push3kpro]

@@marcusott2973 "LadaCamino" lol

[@marcusott2973]

@push3kpro the Samara with the C pillar left like a rollover hoop/ spoiler, in pink =Barbie Beachbuggy from the 80's.

[@dmytrogolovchenko2757]

That is not a Lada Samara, but ZAZ Slavuta

[@marcusott2973]

@@dmytrogolovchenko2757 thx for the clarification,

[@dhxl]

Thank you for the video! Maybe this will help on how to pronounce Avdiїvka First letter is read as A in *father* [ä]. *di* letters are read as *dee.* Probably the same as you say *bee,* [ē] but with *d* Then the second *i,* which I wrote as *ї* on purpose. It is read the same way is *i* in *naive* [na·ive or na·ïve (nī-ēv′, nä-)]. It's a soft variant of *ee.* Since you've specified that your channel is from Austria, I suppose that you speak German as well. So, let's take a look at German *yes* (Ja). Try to replace *a* in *ja* with *ē* sound (from the word *bee* above) and say *jē.* The last *a* is the same as the first one. Thus the full word is read as äv-dee-ї-vkä with stress (accent) on *ee* Hope this will help to pronounce the name of the settlement and avoid all those comments about Advitka pronunciation.

[@thrashes6208]

Im interested in the trees. Is this just what the trees of the areas look like? They look extremely weird as if the top was shot off but nothing was on fire??? Removed for visibillity?

[@Kumimono]

Airburst, shrapnel?

[@caracallaavg]

Damaged by fire and shrapnel back in autumn-winter

[@looinrims]

Combat casualties, something that eco activists forget

[@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized]

Good question! I asked, treetop gets easily "killed" by artillery. Similarly, leaves and then branches. It takes quite some time to regrow and what we see is the damage that has accumulated over time.

[@HandleMyBallsYouTube]

So, I believe what's happened here is just straight up damage, the tops of the trees haven't been cut, if you look closely the entire trees have been mangled, probably in the winter / last summer, and the green you're seeing is new growth.

[@AlexRoivas]

The start of the video is literally Mad Max

[@kawaiiarchive357]

I could build a car port and a shed with all the cope cages lying around.

[@gandydancer9710]

No, you couldn't. Probably a tent or two, if you had the canvas. You just think you are saying something clever because you are stuck in the era when cope cages were being derided by Russian opponents. That's before when, e.g., all the US Abrams were withdrawn from front line duty until cope cages etc. could be added to them. Turned out that the cope cages were an example of the Russians being cleverer than the Ukes, but the latter caught on and you still haven't.

[@GeloLego99]

they called it a cope cage, now every army in the world has them lmao

[@sjonnieplayfull5859]

​@@gandydancer9710 the Americans have not caught on yet because they are not at war, no matter how many times Russians claim they are at war with 'all of NATO '

[@therovingrobin5938]

​@@sjonnieplayfull5859the US just guided cluster.munition missiles onto a beach full of tourists in Crimea...as for the US military not catching on: the US are a dead paper weight tiger...

[@kindlingking]

​@@sjonnieplayfull5859they are not at war, yet they're providing satellite surveillance, supplies, expensive weaponry and military personnel to operate them to Ukraine. There are also weird spikes in lethal accident with nato officers every time russian missiles hit some ukrainian HQs or barracks.

[@stirfrywok2927]

This is very interesting, thank you very much for the work. It is also thoroughly depressing- those trees, the soldiers, the wrecks. An absolute hellscape

[@theborg6024]

man that foliage damage is insane. i dont even want to think about how much ordinance was dropped on that road to shred that many trees that thoroughly. also that btr at 11:39 and earlier in the video feels very misshapen to me, i know you theorized it was add on armor causing it but i wonder if its some kind of specialist hull or something

[@FPoP1911]

This war isnow the weirdest ARMA III moded server.

[@TrzeciaWspolnota]

Thank you. Great content, so enligting and also presented with such a talent.

[@T.efpunkt]

That's a grim video.

[@gandydancer9710]

War is a grim business.

[@torenico]

To think that a large portion of them had people inside when they were destroyed...

[@Pilvenuga]

@@torenico dont cook beans in a closed can

[@gorbalsboy]

It looks like they were dragged off the road ,didn't notice any craters from mortar or artillery indirect fire?anyone else see evidence for indirect fire?I can only guess that when he went off road it was because the tarmac road was damaged (possibly)

[@hinz1]

Apocalypse Now vibes, but from Ukraine War is hell, no matter, where!

[@baryonyxwalkeri3957]

Would have been interesting to have an assessment how much of that destroyed material is ukrainian and russian respectively. I understand since much of the equipment between the two parties is very similar it would often be hard to say for sure. But still, it would have been interesting to know.

[@Mrac-zz8vh]

Driver had no clue about that 90 thousand of us sitting in the pasanger seat and watching whilst listening to a detailed commentary.

[@aartamen]

MTLB is mischarachterised, which is odd for now professional the video is. It's an artillery tractor not an apc. It's also heavily used as an apc, not as a logistics vehicle, due to dearth of armor in both militaries. It's armor is worse than m113, but both armors are awful for the circumstances. You can shoot through the side of mtlb with ball 7.62x39, regardless of what Wikipedia might say.

[@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized]

I went with the Wikipedia definition, as far as I know the thing is used basically for almost everything at one point or another.

[@MetaView7]

This is a human tragedy beyond words.

[@Doomsday42111]

this is the most german video on youtube. 😂 plz next time name what factory the vehicles wer made in. 😂👍🏼 jk love this type of video

[@fgm1197]

7:12 The turret is in a low earth orbit btw.

[@viperlordpaces]

It's surreal that 100 years ago WW1 and Ukrainian War has still has the same resemblance it's true that war, war never changes

[@vladimpaler3498]

What a waste.

[@V-V1875-h]

that vehicle in the Field was probably some MTLB with extra sideskirts. the low stance and the front shape gives it away

[@steve_jackson9933]

that would be strange passing through that vehicle graveyard. so much life lost for what?

[@gandydancer9710]

To win a battle (and, to the extent that the bodies etc. were Ukrainian, to lose one). Every war looks more or less like this.

[@D64nz]

@@gandydancer9710 except we haven't seen war on this scale since WW2.

[@gandydancer9710]

@@D64nz I guess you never saw, e.g., the "Road of Death" or whatever the Iraqi exit route from Kuwait was called. What you see in this video is very small potatoes as this kind of thing goes.

[@Some_Average_Joe]

Mostly over which oligarchs will be in charge and the color of the flag

[@tavish4699]

Well I’m part of a discord and there’s a guy that served on the Russian side He says most of them do it for the money I cannot remember the amount of rubles but it was the equivalent of 40k euros or something per year And for someone coming from rural Russia like most of them that’s a shit ton of money Even I as a European wouldn’t mind 40k a year😂

[@marveljeff]

anyway dont worry about the wreck because in common cases people inside it make it out alive, you can see in many fpv drone footage uplouded by ukrainian so yeah i think they can destroy vehicle multiple times but as long as the crew alive it doesnt make alot of differences.

[@michaelguerin56]

Thank you.

[@obsidianjane4413]

This video would get a US commander relieved. SMDH....

[@sumotony]

Why? Please explain why? For example who cleaned up after Desert Storm "Road of Death", surely not frontline soldiers.

[@sababugs1125]

​@@sumotonythe road of death was for the Iraqis

[@obsidianjane4413]

@@sumotony Its not so much the destroyed vehicles, but the stragglers and vehicles wandering around out of uniform with no security on a road that is interdicted and the untended corpses in with the trash. It shows a lack of discipline and poor leadership. In the US Army no Sargent Major would tolerate that clusterfuck.

[@karkanrey1463]

For real. Walking wounded and people driving civilian vehicles with the top cut off. The Russians really will never learn logistics.

[@nihluxler1890]

The US literally lost 10.000 aircrafts in Vietnam. That statement only makes sense because you haven’t been in an actual war for half a century.

[@alericc1889]

Notice how most of the military vehicles are VERY old, with many going back to the 1970s.

[@NokotanFanCentral]

to be fair the Abrams is 80's technology, I see your point though

[@willietorben560]

Awesome work, I love it! Would be cool to keep a visual tally (Strichliste) for each basic model of vehicle as the video runs, perhaps separated by vehicle clusters even. Also it would be nice to see the spreadsheet, because as your sources say, it is more of the same, but a particular data-rich environment at that. There were a lot of unarmored troop transports that were utterly destroyed, for example; depending on the warhead, casualties must have been severe (with airburst HE or shrapnel it would have been slaughter). A Libyan Civil War battlefield, for example, would have fewer APC but also very few or no "golf cart" grade purely civilian vehicles, and the paramilitary ones would be a much higher standard of quality (sophisticated technicals, not the almost-civilian light trucks we see here). It is a weird mix, and not the mix of a professional armed force for sure. Early in the Somali Civil War, or Gaddafi's army close to his downfall is where I have seen a similar mix from T-72 to scores of purely civilian transport. Surely such a force composition deserves to be broken down in detail (civilian by model and purpose, unarmored mil by model and purpose, AFV by type and purpose down to wheeled vs tracked carriers vs MBT). FWIW I did not see any unequivocal Ukrainian vehicles even though there must have been at least some losses in the general area/time. The 2(-3?) in the field maybe - they "looked different" but it's hard to tell, maybe different camouflage, maybe the light? But I could see no white crosses or other unequivocal UA markings anywhere - or any markings at all, hinting at an organizational streucture that is seriously messed up. The really crappy copecages made from sapling trees and chickenwire I have only seen on RU equipment. It's like those metropolitan US rich folk who fly out to the Far West for a few days to go to a ranch/hotel and play at being cowboys, lassoing cattle and so on went to a Mad Max theme park for a change. The convertible is particulary, ehm, "priceless". This looks like Donald Trump Jr. at age 15 spending his a weekend out in the country with his buddies, a car, and a hacksaw. Since most if not all of the unmarked and unaltered equipment looks otherwise exactly the same as the certainly Russian equipment, I presume that these are more or less exclusively Russian casualties. The people who build these add-ons are not self-sufficient Buryat peasant sons, or impoverished bluecollars that turned to petty crime and got in prison, or such. They are urbanized folk - from small-towners to low-grade metropolitan whitecollars; not minorities and other undesireds, but the nonessential petty bourgeoisie - who simply don't know how to tell good trees apart from bad ones, how to tie them firmly, and so on. They only know civilization and now they must live like cavemen, but they fail and live worse than cavemen. And military specialists who would usually teach them the basics seem to be almost depleted. There are some almost professional mods like the "first-generation" copecage on the BMP-1, or the added plate on the BTR-80 (maybe the front hatches got some too? I can't tell for sure). This was built by people who had formal training to some degree, knew their tools, how to use a welding blowtorch. The BMP-1 "roof" in particular was built from a proper design with measurements, a scale drawing or a standardized pattern - note how nicely done the angles are, how straight it is even now, how light but surprisingly robust. This workmanship is today usually only seen in Ukrainian field mods. We have seen far worse among US occupation troops in Iraq during the initial increase of professional IED attacks. But the BTR-80 slats are much worse already, not crap but possibly added considerably later by a less-experienced crew but probably with some fighting experience; this is about the worst I have seen in US/NATO troops in Iraq or Afghanistan, and Ukrainian field mods are rarely ever wordely built too; in early 2022, yes, but not now anymore. Most of the copecages and other field mods are just pathetic however, 10 year olds with a Swiss Army knife and some pieces of wire could not do much worse, and if they were Scouts they would likely do better. This was done not by people with low intelligence or education, but by people who never before in their lives had any significant hands-on experience with DIY, outdooring, woodcraft etc. Even a really stupid person could do better, if they had any previous on-hands experience, like as a hobby or living in a rural area. The soldiering manuals, like USA FM or Taschenbuch für Wehrausbildung, or whatever Russia calls theirs, all contain how-tos on basic field engineering work, so by the abysmal quality of the field improvisations you can tell that this is a degraded force that has lost some integrated specialist capability already, and whose rank-and-file are not trained soldiers, even below the quality of a well-trained militiaman that has been on field maneuvres already. => Just imagine the bivouacs, shelters, firesites these people would build! The people who build these cope-TRASHHEAPS are utter civilians and have no purpose being anywhere near an active frontline. This single fact alone is a deadly indictment against Putin. He is no better than the average terrorist warlord even to the Russian people, and deserves to be tereated as such. I can only advise anyone who might get in the hands of this "military" machine: "Fly, you fools!" This is not soldiering. As for the troops, this seems to be sorting-out of stragglers after they finally secured the area and pushed Ukraine NW of Ocheretyne in early May, putting the region in the video out of Ukrainian artillery range. Stray soldiers trying to get to the closest command post responsible for them, this sort of thing. At least some of the bikers and the guys in the convertible were probably from units decamped mearby. After they took Bakhmut, such operations (collecting and distributing remains of broken and scattered units, sorting out and rotating troops, reorganizing supply lines and setting up supply dumps, etc) took almost a year before they had all set up for the next offensive (towards Chasiv Yar, which is presently ongoing). These wrecks are the results of some 6 weeks of supporting ops and running battles on the northern "shoulder" of the Avdiivka salient (as seen from Kyiv)/the northwestern "point" of the Avdiivka bulge (as seen from Moscow). These were not assaults against a fortified stronghold. Only for a few days around March 1 and again in mid-April did this area see sustained heavy combat. By late April the frontline had arrived where the video ends. Note they have fully secured this area, and move at leisure, not being under significant threat even of stand-off attack while this is filmed. !!! This is how Putin's VICTORIES looks like. !!! It gives a good idea how his defeats look like, which due to the Ukainian defensive stance we presently only see as fragments on occcasional done footage.

[@user-cz9jj2em2v]

so using civilian cars with remote control for mine clearing is a really interesting idea, because civil cars are extremely numerous.

[@nobbynobbs8182]

Russkiy Mir = a Mad Max like dystopia

[@jayzandstra1830]

now drones might have not been a thing back then but looking at this can you imagine the roads in kursk? stalingrad outskirts? probably wrecks as far as the eye can see.

[@gandydancer9710]

Look up "The Sacred Way" at Verdun.

[@torenico]

There's some photos of german trucks, cars, carts and tanks all smashed up or destroyed after the Red Army directly punched through Army Group Center during Operation Bagration. It's just tons of smashed up vehicles coupled with rotting corpses of horses all over the place.

[@gandydancer9710]

@@torenico Or just look up Falaise Pocket - 1944. Highway of Death in First Gulf War, etc., etc. What you see in this video is very small potatoes.

[@hoegild1]

This could be the "the deat road" at Verdun!! The number of casualties here must be staggering..

[@fedoresko]

Not that much, actually there is a hunt for vehicles at the front. At WW1 one destroyed vehicle was for thousands killed soldiers, currently fortunately just for few people.

[@FordFalcon1962nBlue]

how to people tell the difference between who's equipment is who's? especially if its damaged or destroyed.

[@UncleJoeLITE]

Thanks!

[@jorritpolder3409]

I would not attribute the lack of MT-LBs to the fact that they should mostly be used behind the lines. In the past half year, we have seen them used on a large scale in direct offensive operations such as assaults. It most likely has to do with the specific units on this part of the front being equipped mostly with BMPs and BTRs as they have some kind of priority for the more heavy equipment, with them being equipped like this because of the high priority of the offensive operations in this sector on the front.

[@mrman5517]

outstanding work!

[@bCKization]

More analysis of regular war videos please

[@Korhanne]

Dear sir: I'm pretty sure this is visualized. It is, in fact, on video, a visual medium.

[@kieranh2005]

The names a bit of a hangover from the olden days.

[@Relyt345]

This video reminded me of the game “Mercenaries”

[@tristan1234567890]

2:30. though not subject of the analyses, but interesting that they gou in the back appears to wear a Altyn helmet

[@sale2168]

Why are the trees so extremely fucked up, but there is still a lot of vegetation? artillery?

[@zirconencrustedtweezers]

Trees were probably scorched long ago. The vegetation is new regrowth. Looks similar if you go hiking in an area that was burnt by wildfires.

[@someone2549]

"MAD MAX" movie scenes are not much different than what we see here 😂

[@Oheng75]

I think I saw this movie.. Mad Max I think?

[@zhufortheimpaler4041]

yeah the russians turning more and more into the Mad Max Army

[@crazyoilfieldmechanic3195]

Good video. It would have been interesting to note the approximate age of the vehicles on the spreed sheet.

[@wppz7691]

9:27 this might be an MLTb too with some overhead protection but I am not sure either

[@Wanys123]

I thought MTLB at first... but could it possible be Strela-10, with the "overhead protection" being the launcher?

[@adriankaufmann3007]

I think it's actually another BTR 80, as seen in Minute 5:49. Left front hatch/window covering open. Overhead protection looks similar to the first wrecked one too, turret seems to be missing though.

[@marcusott2973]

Saw a video yesterday of a soldier knocking track pins out of a catastrophic destruction of a T-80. A couple of links if track were still together. Apparently, one of the metal lumps in the clearing was a turbine. Salvaging track pins from a catastrophic loss, the rest of it was metal confetti, seems quite desperate.

[@bobbymay8618]

save what you can. most army's throughout history have units for this very reason

[@marcusott2973]

@bobbymay8618 If said track pins weren't a rare commodity, I don't think any salvage unit would have bothered with such a catastrophic loss. Armies work under the same manpower, time, and efficiency requirements as everyone else. How much time, how many vehicles, men, diesel do I spend to investigate literally metal confetti for usable parts. Perhaps the T 80 has different tracks to the T-90/72, and they are like rocking horse poop in the war zone 🤷‍♂️ , that would explain such a salvage. As there are many wrecks around with tracks still attached.

[@looinrims]

No reason to abandon perfectly good spares, if nothing else sell them back to the government, those guys gotta make money somehow

[@bobbymay8618]

@@marcusott2973 yeah true. But it's hard times all around if it's there might as well try to salvage what you can.

[@marcusott2973]

@@looinrims if the pins come out, they'll go back in, true.

[@nixles2577]

Are there still people who expect objectivity and honesty from bloggers who have direct contact with Ukrainian soldiers? Some of these KZbinrs tell tales about burning British tanks with vodka, others tell tales about ghosts, and still others spread fake news about Russian female prisoners who were captured, which are ultimately recognized as lies by the original sources.

[@bob-gk5jn]

the ditch with the dead people that had been looted is a very sad image

[@asavelakuse6865]

Avdiivka was really a hard bloody battle impressed how far they were able to push further considering the type of warfare that is occurring.

[@TheKsalad]

Year 3 of 3 Day Military operation They've run out of MRAP clones and are using motorcross toy cars to get around

[@AkiWataru]

what is MRAP?

[@fancyultrafresh3264]

@@AkiWataru Mine-Resistant Ambush Protected. US Designation for a variety of light infantry vehicles

[@looinrims]

@@fancyultrafresh3264more specifically vehicles they contracted after the IED catastrophe in the early parts of the GWOT

[@looinrims]

Good meme, but I just want to remind everyone that whilst funny to look at they’re still dangerous and would have no qualms coming to other countries to do the same atrocities

[@nicolas2419]

I don't know if MRAP are so useful in Ukraine. They are not enough armored for the frontline where minefields are. Most MRAP can be easily destroyed by an IFV's autocannon. They are more dedicated for counter-insurgency warfare where IED are widely used.

[@danielcaiado6924]

That cut up wine colored Sedan looks right out of Mad Max.

[@guybutler5305]

Love the content. Only a German could make these detailed videos

[@sanakubi466]

8:46 is ZAZ-1103 "Slavuta", not LADA Samara

[@gagamba9198]

@9:15, shouldn't that Persian rug be hanging on someone's wall?

[@gandydancer9710]

Why on a wall and not on a floor? The bed of the truck was presumably more friendly to being slept in with a rug in it. If you anticipated doing that would you likely "requisition" any rug you came across or not?

[@avus-kw2f213]

Great to see some analysis of the less exciting part of the war this is more relevant to what the war actually looks like then much in the media

[@livinginvancouverbc2247]

I've never seen trees with such damage. Every last tree looks the same. It took me a minute to figure out that the trees have all been blasted by bombs. And, I'm thinking that there were people in all those destroyed vehicles. What a hellscape.

[@joostdriesens3984]

Not all of those vehicles would have people in them. Some of them might have had lesser damage leading to them getting abandoned and fully destroyed later.

[@janchovanec8624]

"Ad-Vidka".... ahhh, never change. Good content, anyway!.

[@eric-wb7gj]

TY 🙏🙏

[@feedbackzaloop]

Would have been nice to have captions for vehicle names like there were toponyms on the map.

[@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized]

Would have done it, but it would have taken way longer, activate the regular captions, they are directly from my script, so the correct names are there.

[@feedbackzaloop]

@@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized indeed, that takes time in video editing. Should have remembered you usually put proper subtitles, not auto-generated.

[@tavish4699]

This reminds me of many of the videos from ww2 that give a similiar picture of

[@somerandomvertebrate9262]

Any idea of the amount of Russian vs. Ukrainian vehicles on this road?

[@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized]

Nope.

[@EsotericBachaBazism]

All of them are Russian. Bmp ,btr, mtlb, desert cross golf cart are all flagship russian vehicles

[@wadimberezovsky1002]

​@@EsotericBachaBazism used to be "road of life" for Ukrainian supply, but all damaged vehicles are russians. Bravo ur logic 👏🏼

[@sjoormen1]

Cabrio tanks, interesting.

[@P4Tri0t420]

Why are there soldiers walking by and the corpses are still there? In the case if the soldiers are also russians like the one´s walking by, why is no one picking them up something?

[@wcjones4079]

A bet there is a code 200 under that Persian rug...

[@user-ui8jt6cx2k]

Likely

[@obj.071]

If this is "winning" im scared to imagine what is "loosing" for those people is... Huge loss of money in my opinion. At least soldiers is free and in never ending supply.

[@Itachi21x]

Mad Max

[@Senthiuz]

No wonder the Russians wanted Adviikda so badly, they've got a cope plant.

[@ghostdiaries369]

You see when troops are moving freely, ya got to question? What happened to all those Ukrainian artillery units that were placed nearby not so long ago?. Cause the road is close to frontline and is in striking range.

[@33KetssA]

Drone warfare has changed war forever now. Tanks are now easy targets

[@michalpavloun]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/hIXOeZigetWMjLs This cabriolet is definitely ZAZ Tavria Sedan, not Lada Samara. Lada Nova nearby is VAZ 2106.

[@pyrenees2695]

1:52 It could also be an aerological probe