Veikkaus - the Finnish gambling monopoly

[@Apoc2K]

Finnish government is like "alcohol and tobacco are bad for you" only to put a funnel of slot machines in every kiosk and store.

[@tiii4017]

Yeah, all sold and provide by the government 😂😂😂

[@pitkaneneelis]

Fun fact, also strong alcohols are sold by government owned company in Finland😂 ”Oh baby drink less! BUT BUY FROM US”

[@Apoc2K]

@@pitkaneneelis The 9 o'clock moralising is the worst. It's literally just uncle government putting the lock on the liquor cabinet, like - what? I'm old and wise enough to lose half my paycheck to the government but not old enough to pop out and buy a sixpack on a Saturday night?

[@omppusolttu5799]

@@pitkaneneelis Atleast with that they make it annoyingly expensive, so less people drink.

[@youngThrashbarg]

First the government gives welfare and pensions, then it tries to get the money back.

[@Ololnen]

There is always some semi drunk guy with worn out clothes using a slot machine in a R kioski.

[@Apoc2K]

The local wildlife foraging in their natural habitat.

[@piuthemagicman]

This happens in every city and village, 100% accurate

[@Vuosta]

Everytime me and my friends drove across the border from Norway to buy that sweet devils juice at alko for 20% cheaper there were atleast 2 fat guys in their 50s with fully gray hair and worn out clothes working the slot machines like crazy.

[@canles]

Back in the day (early 2010s) as a former cashier watching over the slot machines to make sure minors don't rush there to play was always a pain in the ass and sometime on my arm, when some would try to physically stop me from shutting the machine. It was good to get rid of it.

[@test-tl8dt]

i was the kid on the machine. good times.

[@tonisins]

I too was that kid on the machine. But I also remember times when 15yo's were allowed to play slots in the stores. Good times.

[@TheEvilFoxy]

Veikkaus also hires underage folks to specifically test different establishments that they're actually monitoring that minors don't gamble. For a small business, having a Veikkaus machine is a double edged sword and potentially more pain than it's worth.

[@hyperactiveguy3289]

This Summer i was in the beautiful Finnland and i was shocked because of the gambling Machines... I was Like:" even in grocery Stores????"

[@hmmkin6729]

They are in your walls too.

[@tiii4017]

They want to ban online casinos too 😂

[@MrBanaanipommi]

there is less than used to be.... we finns start gambling before we go to school, family members give us scratch cards... then we go to cruise ship and meanwhile those gambling machines in finland are k-18, used to be k-15... my first time i played those gambling games was at cruise ship when i was like 5 years old..because on cruise ship there was no age restrictions... me and my big brother played my mom's all money lmaoooo!½½½!!!!!! 🤪🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@CosplayBuddies]

@@MrBanaanipommi I didn't really even consider how weird it actually is how normalised gambling is. We used to get christmas presents from grandpa that were packets of scratch cards, it was a tradition, I actually won 200€ when I was like 8 and I spent it all on toys(Littlest Petshop). Now that grandpa has passed, it actually feels really empty to not get the scratch card package every christmas

[@MrBanaanipommi]

@@CosplayBuddies yea same here... except i NEVER won anything but maybe 5€ xD

[@GriseoFalco]

People in Serbia complain that casinos are too close to schools. People also like to say this would never be allowed in developed countries. Finland enters the chat.

[@laurikoski4764]

I love this style of mini documentaries and it's great to see that we have also Finnish productions. Great job editing and narrating!

[@The_SD_Economist]

The 2017 fusing of RAY, Toto and Veikkaus was chaotic. My father told me that many of his colleagues and him had been given two choices. Either get your salary for a year without work, after that you dont work with veikkaus, or leave at the company on the spot. My father also told that due to the ceo of veikkaus giving fake numbers and wanting to discontinue the monopoly, he needed to work to fix the problems in his new job, over 700 hours. Simply said veikkaus has been and still is a dumster fire inside.

[@iarmycombo5659]

And then i get a veikkaus ad after the video...

[@juhokaartoaho]

To be fair, the membership requirement has shown quite effective at least our shop. We used to have 3 slot machines, but after that one of them was taken away since they didn't "sell" that well any more and recently there have been talks about giving the rest of them back to veikkaus also since they still don't sell that good. Also I would predict that since scratchers will need that same membership card around half way next year that they will not be sold nearly as much since those are usually more impulse buy for many customers.

[@TheSantaslilhelper]

Scratch cards are always impulse buy for me, I never go to buy one.

[@mayonasepizza]

Its bad that its such a tradition to gift them to people, even children

[@juhokaartoaho]

@@mayonasepizza Yep. Have gotten them for almost every christmas I can remember. I would much more prefer a gift card than a cardboeard piece that's most of the time wortles.

[@kimnice]

For us the number of machines dropped from 6 to 4. Our shop is less than 400 square meters in size. It's funny..they say that they won't put more of these machines to places where there's more tendency for addiction. Our customers are really geared towards addictions and shop of this size usually have only one or two machines. They've introduced restrictions to the availability of these games: These machines work from 9 am to 9 pm. Because of this many of our customers have moved from slot machines to scratchers that can be sold at any times and they are spending a lot more money. Interesting to see the results of this membership card requirement!

[@vubsi]

It should also ve noted that even the highest Finnish football league is named after veikkaus (veikkausliiga). It's their biggest sponsor. You can't escape Veikkaus 😂

[@overi9949]

I remember the time when slot machines in Finland required only age of 15, golden days :D

[@TheSantaslilhelper]

I was 14 back then and I was waiting to get to play them. Man I was pissed off when I turned 15 and tried to play them

[@overi9949]

@@TheSantaslilhelper Back then age restriction was more of a suggestion :D

[@suomenpresidentti]

I Lost all my money on them as youngster, but got rid of the habit when I entered military service.

[@test-tl8dt]

@@suomenpresidentti same here. it was a nice feeling to sometimes hit the jackpot from your couple euros of childhood pocket change allowance or bottles you collected. obviously on the long run probably lose but it was exciting at the time. never struggled to stop or felt addicted personally. it was just prohibited childs play.

[@Winland88]

I remember times where age restrictions didn't even exist at all and mechanical machines had some serious design flaws that you could abuse, like playing them 100% free by not even using real coins or plexiglass Pajatso where you could push the glass and almost always hit the middle slot. Made so much fun money from those old slots to the point i never had to beg money from parents, always had cash for candies and even video games.

[@annyeongh8rs815]

I love to see these little insights into Finland, which would usually be mundane for the average Finn I guess but you make it interesting for those who want to know more about Finland who are from the outside

[@Skarfar90]

This was also the case in Norway, until the slot machine ban in 2007. Those machines were everywhere, and pretty much every grocery store, gas station, kiosk or public area had at least one machine. Unlike Finland, where the machines are owned by the national lottery, in Norway, the machines were placed by the various national charity actors, like Red Cross. This was eventually cracked down on, and Norsk Tipping (the Norwegian equivalent of Veikkaus) got a monopoly on national gambling, where the limits are much stricter on how much money a person can spend every day.

[@Kat-gp6gj]

The Red Cross is in the gambling business? I knew they were corrupt, but that's a new one lol

[@vanu2985]

This was a really important & interesting topic, I see that you have credited Veikkauskratia (a book) in the sources, I would also highly recommend to check it out, that was really eye-opening for me. I feel like the situation with Veikkaus is pretty much a plus-miinus-nolla (all positives and negatives equal to zero), literally Veikkaus is the one funding the companies which are supposed to help people with a gambling addiction. Finland is one of the only countries with gambling culture rooted so deeply into everyday life and I don't think we should be playing with people's money and health in the 21st century anymore. A really good video overall, thank you!

[@juhokosonen2127]

"tax rates are higher than Snoop Dogg on 20th of April" is such a good slogan

[@Tukeuvian]

Sooo... Veikkaus is like reverse Robin Hood?

[@jaanuspapp1333]

yes, indeed. it robs from the poor and gives to the wealthy.

[@mayonasepizza]

Yes

[@Kaltsukka]

Robbin' the hood.

[@m1k1a1]

Veikkaus has operative leadership like any other company. But they also have a board of directors, and many of the board members are current or ex parliament members. The board positions are given as rewards to politicians, because they pay very well. Starting from 500€ for every short board meeting. This is just one of the reasons why my answer is "LOL" every time when someone asks if Veikkaus monopoly will be discontinued in Finland.

[@HulluJanne]

Once they removed the last mechanical slot machines, my gambling took a nose dive. Couldn't stand the big screen with endless animations and pointless "free rounds". After they started demanding identification to play, it stopped altogether. EDIT: Back in the day at around 13-15 years old, I often dropped a few coins on some Mansikka. Can't remember any situation where anyone would've came to stop me, as an under aged. I learned slot machines from my uncle at under 10 years old and we sometimes went to play together when on a summer break.

[@yatalore]

Veikkaus Slot Machines have begun dissapearing from many (Not all, i still see them sometimes ) S-Market and K-Market in pohjois karjala recently, don't know why though. Though ABC still has them in in basically every single one of their buildings here though.

[@oplkfdhgk]

veikkaan että tämä on hyvä video. 😛

[@pippelimonster1]

heheheheheheheheh vittu kun oot hauska

[@guerillagorilla4423]

🗿

[@fl4shi238]

Kuinka isolla panoksella?

[@comet-fy6pd]

boo this man

[@kindkindred]

Veikkaus also has these addicting chrismas calendars.

[@pekkapikkuinen6896]

And PAF, ålands gambling monopoly has its own slot machines on cruise liners and nothing is talked about that?

[@ViceMightBeTaken]

95% of gamblers quit before they win big

[@kuikkaplays]

You can only lose 100% and Win 20000%

[@jesustyronechrist2330]

I think they should just start using that meme of a guy mining towards a huge supply of precut giant diamonds, but turns away on the last centimeter.

[@minke22]

@@kuikkaplays ei vaan mun casinolla

[@Hoksaaja]

There are state-operated gambling machines in many public areas. The cool thing about this is that the money actually supports many significant initiatives such as science, arts and culture, sports, war veterans, and youth.

[@jarskil8862]

Does not justify it. What kind of country funds their culture for rich with money milked from sick (mostly less fortunate) people.

[@aleksilinna9411]

Next you have to do a video about Alko and it's role as a fiscal monopoly.

[@jesustyronechrist2330]

A classmate of mine has taken as much student debt as possible and apparently he's lost almost all of it to gambling. What keeps him going is the addiction and it's scary how it works: Right after he says how much he's spent, he proudly exclaimed "but I've won like 3000€ in total". Yeah, so instead losing 15 000€, you just lost 12 000€, wow that's great, you're so lucky...

[@Nichtzukennen]

He is debtmaxxing like a pro

[@IB_A]

I was very confused that some very small Alepa had a gamble machine behind the door XD

[@KillBillVaggeli13]

It was so funny having to see kalle Rovanperä of all people, having to put stickers over his betting sponsors in the rally of Finland 😂😂😂

[@PeterNygard69]

Talk about Finnish coffee culture

[@KonaKonism]

Olisko Ylilauta, suomi24 tai tällaset foorumit mitään aiheeks?

[@sudenkieppi]

I'm underage so I can't use the slot machines (until in August in 2023), but I have technically played a bit. With my dad. He doesn't play the slot machines often at all, only if he has some loose change he doesn't need. But back when I was a bit younger, my dad would play the game itself and I would watch and then he'd sometimes let me press a button. And usually we didn't win much, so it often went into buying little treats like ice creams for us or something.

[@SilverGamingFI]

Back in late 2000s/early 2010s my dad once let me press a button on a slot machine, and it is one of the only memories of my close family ever using a slot machine.

[@JD-fx9ly]

This reminds me of some comments on another one of your videos. One comment talked about the similarities between Finnish-Americans and some Native tribes (Steam-hut/Saunas, forestry, hunting, farming, etc.) And now I've found another one, gambling.

[@s.s6499]

At first, I was shocked and disgusted by slot machines in grocery stores, only to remember that we have slot machines adjacent to grocery stores. The idea behind a state-owned gambling company is interesting, considering we have nothing of the sort. Cheers from the country with the statistically worst gambling problem, Australia. Never knew it was so prevalent in Finland.

[@infamoussphere7228]

yeah I'm Australian and I thought the slot machines in supermarkets would be better because you have to stand there in full view of everyone rather than being sequestered away in a club with free drinks and artificial light and comfy chairs and no clocks. So it's harder to get into a zone and play for ten hours.

[@Sycklify]

Ya know... i never understood why there were so many slot machines literally everywhere here... Damn... didnt know I was in the broke side of town.... guess thats why they call it the chicago of Finland.

[@Apoc2K]

Every side of Lahti is the broke side of Lahti.

[@powerboots2932]

Noice, lisää tämmösiä Velimies

[@m136dalie]

At least with a state owned monopoly on gambling it's somewhat regulated. In Australia regulations surrounding gambling are rarely enforced, which is why Australia is the gambling capital of the world by a wide margin.

[@henkkaa88]

After the membership thing the amount of players have drastically reduced. Probably because most are addicts and now they can ban themselves or put the monthly limit down.

[@lolmies4347]

Kiva kun teet näitä videoita 👍

[@tonisins]

man... remembering the good ol' days when 15yo's were allowed to play slots in stores. Every day after school we would hang out just playing slot machines :D And it was great when winning, winning like 80€ after school in few minutes was big money for a kid that age. But honestly I think it was thanks to us being able to that as kids that there's not that much gambling addiction among my generation, at least afaik the more addicted ones are older.

[@KimForsberg]

Ah, summer holidays visiting relatives in Finland as a kid, gambling on the slot machines from an age of 6. So annoyed you need a gambling card or whatever it is now to gamble on them, so no more playing when visiting again.

[@Eskolol]

I still remember the days when I was 12 or so and we used to secretly play the slot machines at the local video rental store. I remember winning 20 euros and felt like I won a million dollar jackpot. Bought Counter Strike 1.6 with that money. Continued regular gambling during recess to turn random change I got from recycling plastic bottles into full on McDonald's lunch money. Those were the days and life was so simple... :D It didn't take long for us to get banned from the video rental store, but my gambling career basically ended when I got my first summer job and the first paycheck and realized that gambling is for poor people :D

[@phjeeteri]

12:09 acckshually this means "let's keep gambling on the side of fun"

[@Aivottaja]

No other country but this DDR Lite wants to dictate the hours of the day when they are allowed to buy beer and have a state monopoly on gambling.

[@eetuthereindeer6671]

I have never played a single game of veikkaus even thought i live in finland. Yes its everywhere. I just don't want to lose my money with absolutely nothing in return. If i want to waste my money i'll just buy soda and chocolate. At least i get fat in return

[@necy1556]

Working at Veikkaus makes this fun 😂👍🏼

[@jarskil8862]

I would be ashamed to admit working for such company openly.

[@a.bastianwiik5592]

Ah when our norwegian monopoly, Norsk tipping removed the slot machines, bottle return machines got a "Charity lottery" option. So now you have a few wierdo pensioners collecting bottles and soda cans to gamble.

[@hankimitsu8188]

We have the same charity thing here in Finland too, atleast in Lidl stores.

[@sonow5]

Suosittelen käyttään jonkin sortin compressoria audioraidassa:)

[@infamoussphere7228]

I'm Australian (which is the country with the biggest gambling numbers in that graph you mentioned!) and from my perspective, the slot machines in supermarkets seemed like kind of a good idea to reduce gambling. Because in Australia they're only in clubs and the clubs do all kinds of tricks to make sure that addicts don't leave (free drinks, artificial light so they don't know what time it is, no clocks etc.) Whereas if you're just standing up in an s-market you're pretty constantly reminded that time is passing and you aren't exactly cloistered away from the everyday world, nor is it very comfortable to stay there for ages. And you probably also feel very pathetic. So I feel like it'd disincentivise gambling, but I don't have stats on that.

[@pobelix5803]

"Higher power: Mathematics"

[@bassmanjura]

Regarding Finnish people do not invest much, I think that is mainly taxation issue. In many other countries there is a system of tax-free investment, whether it is by keeping shares long enough or by year amount of profits. Not in Finland, you are taxed all the time and by significant 30-34%. I was very interested to start investing when I moved here but if you consider risk, fees and taxes, the return is only interesting when you have a lot of money. I think this should be changed to encourage people to invest and save more.

[@luukas2660]

You only pay taxes on profits and you can actually deduct losses from income taxation. Also you're not constantly taxed, only when you liquidate your investment.

[@bassmanjura]

@@luukas2660 of course it is from the profit ''only'' and the loss deduction is great, but for example in Slovakia, if you liquidate your investment (shares, bonds etc) after at least 1 year of owning it, you don't pay taxes on the profit, because you are not considered as broker. Also, if you own a house more than 5 years and you sell it with profit, it is tax free. In Germany, I think there is a certain threshold till your profits are tax free. Here in Finland, you can own the shares for 20 years or house for 20 years and it does not make any difference, hence people are not motivated enough to take the risk and bother with investing. That is not a good strategy by Finnish government, you want people to invest and save and not be utterly dependent on government

[@eetutiiro4808]

The socialists dont want you to get rich here in finland

[@alexanderd8161]

This is a golden comment, sir! It is a basic logic that socialist parties want to keep people poor, because poor vote for socialists.

[@ItsAweeb]

Close but not quite. You get taxed when you sell the assets, and only if the sale generates i think it was 1000€ in a year so if you stay under that there's no tax Also you will get lower tax rate on investments if you hold them x ammount of time. Sure it's not as forgiving than the others, but its not unreasonable

[@anterol]

I don't know how this compares to other countries and companies, but it's not that long ago when there were no age restrictions here at all. I happened to turn 15 at the time they changed the age of gambling to 15 as well (about the year 2005). Can't remind if it was sports betting, slot machines or both. Anyways shop clerks and kiosk owners etc were required to verify the age of potentially underaged players...something they were not willing, qualified or interested to do. Nowadays Veikkaus is stricter via their player and age authentication (age of being able to gamble being 18) also encouraging people to gamble online. Interesting topic anyways

[@fuufuu1080]

6:22 is funny because the kid is outside the 18+ line

[@raikkumoi6069]

perrrkeleen hyvä video

[@ristoh1420]

Yes, we need slot machines in corner stores. Gambling online is boring. On a real slot machine it's way more fun, and pelaamo locations aren't accessible where one would like to gamble a little.

[@madexan]

i knew this one billiard place and they got one machine from veikkaus, but after few months they came and took it back. Reason was it didn't made enough money.

[@samisuhonen9815]

As a Finnish man I hate how they changed the slot machines to require a Veikkaus app profile or some shit. And you will have to login every time you want to play. This pisses me off because I only used to gamble for one reason. It goes like this. I buy something with cash, and I have these annoying 20 and 50 cent coins now. I never use these coins because it's awkward to pay with little coins and count them while other people wait in the line and the cashier looks at you judging how slow you can take them out of your wallet. So I would put the change coins into the slot machine. Worst case scenario, I lose them all, got like a minute of fun and excitement, and I don't have to carry them around. Best case scenario, I win sometimes and get to cash out in whole one or two Euro coins. These I can use to pay for like weekend beer, lunch, or parking. Plus I feel like a winner if I do win. But now all that convenience is ruined. I'd have to set up some VeikkausTM account and connect my credit card to the account. And every time I go to play I would have to use my bank ID to verify my login etc. Turns a quick dumping of 70 cents into a whole operation.

[@korsonramsay]

Gold Jaska Two fills up your wallet very nice 👍🏻

[@madfrog7984]

i have a gambling addiciton

[@ilikevideos4868]

Pajatso oli kyllä siinä mielessä erikoinen että se oli taidosta kiinni

[@ItsAweeb]

Ja siksi niitä ei enää olekkaan missään. Oikeastaan ainoa veikkaus viritys, jota pystyi puolustamaan

[@Leopez02]

Im Finnish and K live in Finland Suomi mainittu torilla tavataan 🇫🇮

[@juhakeskitalo9182]

Love the way a avarage finn makes facts about things that doesent know is it a fact or not.

[@Artsu1993]

Mahtava video

[@Artsu1993]

Pusuja ja haleja

[@Karmazor]

Ei tainnut olla Veikkaus yhteistyössä täs videos

[@thug_573]

Pffft 2k a month "limit" i think they know quite well what their avg consumer base earns in a month

[@masayozzy6498]

Baareihin ja semmosiin vois jäähä koneet mutta on ne aika ikäviä kaupoissa. Ehkä joku prisma/vastaava iso kauppa vois vielä olla ok. Makuasia

[@prome666]

Mites ku niitä vuos pari takaperin poistettiin vanhainkodista :D Sais olla vaa kasinoissa, jossa valvontaa voidaa kunnolla suorittaa (alaikäset, pelikiellot)

[@masayozzy6498]

@@prome666 iha hyvä et lähti vanhainkodeist :D

[@-EekaMouse-]

The old lady who lives in our neighborhood is always complaining how much food and cigarettes cost and tells how her money is never enough, yet she's always playing these slots at the local grocery store every day for a week after her money comes at 1st day of every month.

[@alexsysoeva907]

Video idea vaa et voit tehdä videon jonneista :DDD

[@OjStudios]

Finland, the founding land of monopolies.

[@OlliHurme]

Got 3 online casino ads on this video👍

[@LeoLoikkanen]

Veikkaus is the finnish pusher of the Pokies (Australians know whatimtalkeenabeeet)

[@spurdo4965]

Hold on, Accenticall?

[@mandelin0]

No, this is Patrick

[@pyttpytts2690]

i see now why the finns are the happiest people on the planet, they can gamble anywhere

[@jarppe123]

Then there are also connections with political figures that get absurdly high rewards from meetings.

[@dazedconfused7389]

Finlands gambling addiction is huge. ive played hundreds of thousands and i dont really even care.

[@Onnmeinaa]

Yep

[@Snufkinp]

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

[@royce0538]

here in the netherlands its the same XD

[@cactu]

gambling addiction sucks, i have lost over 10000€

[@eetuthereindeer6671]

Veikkaus is "guess" in finnish

[@Kallo-ks8tv]

0:29 KANNELMÄKI MAINITTU

[@pritammalakar5904]

♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️

[@rudde7251]

Why would Veikkaus be allowed in naboring countries your allied with? Veikkaus would be no different to unibet or betson in Norway and Sweden as we have our own "Veikkaus" to combat foreign gaming companies.

[@juhajarkkoulvila7041]

viimeset kolikot koneeseen syätetty ku Hyllykallion Essolla oli 50 pennin pajatso 🤣

[@andrewhdz]

Gambling collaterals aren't limited only for ludopath people Constant doses of dopamine implies that braincells can't produce enough by themselves without the repeated reinforcement in a routine Or in other words, people would tend to feeling more disaffected about the stimulous in the environment... ergo, would be a potential risk for depressed people

[@teemukaikelsvitch8858]

Kun näet Peter Griffinin eduskunnassa, miksi mieleen tulee Juha Sipilä 🤔🤔 ps. ei varmasti olis kyllä tyhmempää menoa kuin nyt on 🤣🤣😂

[@tapeloyal7005]

you just have to know how to win. They are called winning slots for a reason.

[@seriousspikesam7770]

"Nousevissa pelivideoissa." Niin no, pelaamistahan se on uhkapelaaminenkin. Euron tappio ei tunnu missään, kympin tappio harmittaa. Miten joku onnistuu pelaamaan 500€ "rajan" yhden päivän aikana on jo aikamoinen mysteeri. Saati sitten miksi "raja" on ylipäätään laitettu noin korkealle. Something something valaat ja muut.

[@ItsAweeb]

Jeap, se on pelottavaa miten pahasti siihen voi jäädä koukkuun vaikka ymmärtää miten se toimii ja että pelaajan mahdollisuudet voittaa ovat pienet.

[@Povrallyfan]

0:03 KÄRKKÄISTEN SALMEN SILTA!!!!

[@valkoinenrotta]

Olen uhkapelaamista vastaan mutta kun sitä on kerran kokeillut niin on vaikea enää lopettaa.

[@jiplenz7253]

"Suomaleinen aina voittaa" mut sitten suomalainen vois maksaa 100€ ettei naapuri saa 50€

[@mikitz]

Kiitoksena pienen ongelmaporukan väninälle, en enää koskaan sijoita penniäkään Veikkaukselle. Että pitäkään vaan hauskaa.

[@Ak3l1]

Jonnepotti ❤

[@Ant-tx2ej]

got 500 euros from the veikkaus advent calendar

[@Mestar1508]

Mitä veikkaat world cup voittajaksi?

[@man123killed]

Brasilia

[@guerillagorilla4423]

ok

[@Snufkinp]

problem?

[@guerillagorilla4423]

@@Snufkinp Mitenkä nii

[@Thurkzs]

Got 1k from advent calendar

[@Tilannepaalla]

I think that without slot machines finns would spend more money online and therefore more money pouring out to foreign casinos. But i still dont support the addictive features of slot machines. I think that the foreign casinos are really the bad ones. Veikkaus atleast redistributes the profts back to good causes.

[@3m073]

The veikkaus card was just added to make sure that no one wins and everyone is playing with the 80-90% money return policy 😂

[@Jugi]

personally don't use veikkaus that much other than putting couple euros to eurojackpot when it's over 50million lol never gonna win but 6euros every couple weeks is not that much so doesn't bother me. and at least when i have been in the shops recently, have not seen that many poeple use the slot machines, but obviously someone uses them because they are still there but i think less than like 8years ago, after school i saw bunch of old dudes and couple teenagers always using them

[@KimSandvik]

Poista tää

[@yeahnoway111]

Monopolies like this should be illegal.

[@redgrengrumbholdt2671]

It's not really a monopoly though.

[@yeahnoway111]

@@redgrengrumbholdt2671 It is. There are no physical casinos other than Veikkaus.

[@redgrengrumbholdt2671]

@@yeahnoway111 don't most people gamble online?

[@redgrengrumbholdt2671]

@@yeahnoway111 Also there are physical casinos that hold other business casino brands as well. There just aren't any of them in supermarkets for example.