Velma Sucks (Part 1)

[@BlackLightJack.]

WHATS NEW SCOOBY DOO IM COMING AFTER YOU

[@axelcordova8262]

WE'RE GONNA SOLVE THAT MYSTERY

[@Lizzyisaloner]

@@axelcordova8262 I SEE YOU SCOOBY DOO THE TRAIL LEADS BACK TO YOU

[@djinsanity3575]

@@Lizzyisaloner WHAT'S NEW SCOOBY DOO

[@Giovannibardawulf]

I'm glad Scooby Doo wasn't in this show, he doesn't deserve to be in this torture.

[@CrowInAHat]

@@djinsanity3575 What's new, Scooby-Doo? We're gonna follow you. You're gonna solve that mystery.

[@ryanleatigaga7596]

"If a dog can solve crimes, then Velma can be brown." ...Kaling does realize dogs can solve crimes in real life, right? Dogs that can sniff out drugs and bombs and dogs that can look for people when they smell something that the person who got lost wore are real life examples. She phrased it as a gotcha moment not knowing that's a real thing dogs do lol

[@Khadharphak]

It's also *slightly* undermined by the fact the crime solving dog isn't in the fucking show

[@tfordham13]

Not only drugs and bombs but guns animals plants

[@sketchyjulia]

In her defense I think she was saying it in response to people being racist/saying things like “Velma can’t be brown she’s always been white this is woke SJW nonsense” The Race swapping is not why the show sucks

[@BrightWulph]

Don't even forget cadaver dogs, who can find bodies that have been buried inside something (like say concrete) for years.

[@kenslycarpel3140]

@@sketchyjulia Race swapping is part of the reason it sucks. Velma takes so many shots at white people in the show for just being white, and of course from a writing standpoint, she couldn’t do that if she was white herself.

[@kendra_t]

Ironically, Fred (pre this show) is kind of a Tumblr darling for being a Himbo on Mystery Inc, so shitting on him constantly was a bad move.

[@lovelycloudyskies]

Fred was lovable in the original, why did they have to spit on him so badly in this show?

[@sBOYKISSER69420]

EXACTLY! hes such a goofy sweetheart...

[@babypolarbear1912]

In the words of Jelloapocolypse (his video about Fred is amazing) "Fred has the brain of a tadpole and the body of a fridge". I love Fred

[@Recordspin]

Also, wasn’t Daphne the rich kid? At least in Mystery Incorporated

[@officerbucktuddrussel394]

"If a dog can solve crimes, then Velma can be brown." Oh, oh! Let me try! "If a dragon can exists in westeros, then John snow can be a ford fiesta" Oo how about "If a ring can produce hardlight constructs, then Superman can be a pile of mash potatoes" I love playing mad libs.

[@trashman4500]

Hey let me try “If a kid can use psychic powers, then he can fight sex robots with a dragon dildo!” “If Batman doesn’t kill, then the Death wolf furry wants to fuck Batman!” “If Peppino Spaghetti can shoot robots and Pinelvis Presley with a shotgun, I can shoot up the robots at Chuck E. Cheese and the washed-up celebrity there!” this is fun

[@Mariobro4]

"If a plumber can fight a fire breathing turtle, then Princess Peach can be a tree." "If a sentient cheese pizza can eat ghosts, then the power pellets are iPhones."

[@kyrohowe3156]

Kinda reminds me of MAD Libs activity books I had when I was a kid.

[@geIatoos]

@@Mariobro4 nah nah nah,it wouldve been like "if a plumber can fight a fire breathing turtle,then Princess Peach can be black"

[@ultra6671]

"If a millionaire can dress up as a bat to fight crime, then Robin can be an actual bird."

[@stickthelanding4785]

I like how Fred is supposed to be the most one of the most hated characters in the show but he ends up being one of the most liked

[@CoolMintMC]

The irony is almost suffocating. I also think it's quite funny how he still isn't like his original character at all, yet is the least disliked while being the only one who wasn't race-washed.

[@stickthelanding4785]

@@CoolMintMC Fred was always just a funny quirky guy who liked traps, nets, and his van. Mindy projected and only disliked him because he was a “straight white male”. Which is basically her just being racist

[@Luxndr]

The similar thing happened with Aster from HGS, a lot of people love him although the writers' tried to make him unlikeable

[@timfortune9]

From what I've seen, he's designed to be such an insufferable douchebag idiot that you're supposed to hate to such an extreme that it wraps around to likeable, especially compared to when the rest of the cast are unintentionally insufferable douchebag idiots that you're supposed to like. It really doesn't help when he's voiced by Glenn Howerton (Dennis from "Always Sunny") who has mastered how to play a psychotic creep that you enjoy watching.

[@stickthelanding4785]

@@Luxndr That's the thing with these writers. They need to stop writing with their hearts but with there brains.

[@anthonyackerman7914]

Fun Fact: The reason Scooby isn't in the show is because the writers claim "having a talking dog would make it made feel like a kids' show" Edit: This aged like fine wine after season 2

[@SweetOrangeGirl]

I guess Family Guy is for kids since they have a talking dog named Brian.

[@Moon07887]

@@SweetOrangeGirl insert a "men we dont know what we did" moment for the poor guys who made the grave mistake of watching this show

[@gkingGabe72]

At least Scooby-Doo wasn't tarnished in this show because he isn't in there. Hallelujah!

[@cakefrosting6451]

Meanwhile they happily tarnish Scrappy Doo in the second episode by making that (rather annoying) pup have its cameo as a black girl

[@Schnubi]

It would be animal cruelty to have Scooby in this show

[@bobcatracer]

My theory is that Mindy wanted to make a show about a self insert character solving mysteries but HBO wanted it to be a Scooby-Doo show, so she made it as terrible as possible as a revenge plot. Or at least I hope so.

[@inadequateavian211]

But, um, well, the Velma show isn’t all that bad if you really think about all the unique and intriguing stuff it does like uh….yeah!! 🤓

[@justinguyos5476]

@@inadequateavian211 so got an example?

[@eylon-wallstain]

@@inadequateavian211 this is a joke…. Right?

[@lasarousi]

@@inadequateavian211 that's a great bait you got there, it would be a shame if people thought it was for real.

[@skyjack1]

Wouldn’t it be awful if commenters couldn’t identify satire, even with clear cues?

[@rheverend]

Fun fact: Kaling had some controversy years back when her brother pretended to be black to get into the school he wanted. His initial application was denied due to not having high enough grades. I think a black friend of his with similar grades was accepted (or something like that), so he changed his application to make it seem like he was black. I think he changed his name to Jojo which was a nickname. Same grades and transcript, but this time he applied as a black student and suddenly he was accepted. When this all came to light, she was very embarrassed and of course he was called a racist

[@TheLalacream]

Also when she admitted to sexually assaulting a gay man on the Conan O'Brian show (forcefully kissed him) as well as accusations of sexual harassment and threatening to to play the female victim card if anyone tries to report/discipline her.

[@michaelfields7088]

Yeah theres no prejudice in this world at all. Sarcasm

[@lasarousi]

@@michaelfields7088 definitely not preferential treatment to specifically one race.

[@Oof_my_guy]

Here in brazil is the same thing, we have Cotas, that is basically a easier test than the vestibular, that is, you know, THE BIGGEST TEST OF MY COUNTRY THAT CAN GIVE YOU FREE COLLEGE, and black people can get into college with a shit score, its simply shitty

[@Boomrainbownuke9608]

@@Oof_my_guy that doesn't make any sense. how are they gonna finish college if they cant get a high enough score on that test? its like still getting to work at mcdonalds even if you burn the food! it makes no damn sense!

[@The_Omega_Dragon]

Wonder if the story of Kaling sexually assaulting a male coworker and threatening his job if he told anyone had any weight against this shitshow? Probably not...

[@Marta_OuO]

Yooo never heard of that before

[@SheetGhostWithBones]

Ayo?

[@Adamguy2003]

I think it was the other way around: The backlash against this dungheap of a show led to the resurfacing of the clip of her talking about that.

[@Adamguy2003]

@@Marta_OuO Yep. There was an occasion when Kaling appeared on Conan O'Brien's talk show, openly bragging about an occasion when she kissed a male costar from her show (And an openly gay, married male costar, to boot) on the lips without consent, and then threatened to have anyone who spoke about it again fired.

[@SpartanJoe193]

Wait, she did?

[@KR1STALIX]

gotta love "those" self insert-like characters. definitely not a way to deliver one's own beliefs into a show, nooooo!! it's clearly all an original personality!!!

[@yammatio]

Definitely!!! Self-insert characters TOTALLY AREN'T usually badly written and gets trashed on, noooo!! This character is rewritten flawlessly and definitely is one of the best shows I've ever seen, yes yes!!

[@godzillaboy011]

@@yammatio well, they're not ALWAYS bad. Self-insert characters are fine, the only problem is how they're made.

[@yammatio]

@@godzillaboy011 I fully agree with that, that's why I put usually lol The ones that get popularised though tend to be badly written, but like you've said, I have seen some genuinely good ones before

[@Demonetization_Symbol]

What's wrong with that?

[@Yami-mugoni613]

@@yammatio to my knowledge dipper is a self insert of the creator

[@Miichiruzz]

What makes me mad is that they literally take characters from scooby doo, race swap them, and gave a entire new personality. Heck Scooby isn't even part of it. If you want to take characters from a beloved franchise for a series, don't do what Velma did.

[@prasetyodwikuncorojati2434]

I don't know what the creator of this crap wants. Likely they want to make Mystery gang parody but fail miserably due to cringe racist joke, extremely unlikeable characters (jerkass protagonist character actually can work, if it has hidden depth, funny, or something likeable. But this Velma lack all of them) and maybe bad character design

[@MrAuthor3DS]

Heck, the race-swapping might have been excusable...if the show wasn't loaded with "white people" hazes. Now the race-swapping just seems plain insidious.

[@nelloed]

no bc they shouldn't have called it scooby doo if the FUCKING DOG isn't in there yk?? make the characters part of their own show and just go with it, stop piggybacking off a popular franchise for the publicity points and ruining what used to be fantastic

[@oddgirl2813]

The show just reminded my of the “I’m not Starfire” series and I hated everything about that series too

[@Skull1Hunter]

At least with "I'm not Starfire," the unlikeable self-insert was an original character, whereas in "Velma," the unlikeable self-insert in a character that has been around for decades.

[@oddgirl2813]

@@Skull1Hunter oh my god, you’re right. I might hate Velma more Nah I hate both equally

[@Es_gee]

Imagine if they had a crossover...

[@thathero5953]

Don't you love how they made everyone into racial stereotypes in an attempt to be inclusive. Velma: -Is the smart one, so she has to be Indian. -Is a shameless self insert. Also racist, sexist, manipulative, uncaring, unfunny, and just downright rude. (To be fair, accurate to Mindy) Not-Shaggy: -The character who was theorized to be a stoner just happens to be the Black one. (Seriously? No one saw that?) -Every girlboss protagonist has a useless black sidekick who simps for them. (The Finn Effect) -He doesn't have a job. Daphne (Actually a composition of multiple cliches, but still one dimensional): -Asian cliche (Adopted, knows martial arts, and super intelligent) -Bully cliche (Violent, rude, not so secret obsession with the protagonist) -Popular girl cliche (Love of fashion and absurdly horny) Fred: -Was the only one who wasn't race swapped so he could be the victim of all the dreaded "white people" jokes. -He's a preppy and snobbish twat that has everything handed to him, making him both soft and incompetent. -Mindy Kaling believes characters like Fred can be defined by their whiteness. (That's pretty racist if you ask me.) -He's ironically the only one with a character arc onscreen.

[@catus-cactus]

You don’t understand that’s what makes it funny 😂jkjkkkjk!!!!!!1!!!1!!!!

[@Adamguy2003]

Your second point on Not- Shaggy ties into the subtle racism that entertainment industry SJWs have. See, while they of course will never admit it, most ultra- woke SJWs, particularly in the entertainment industry, are absolutely terrified of minority men, ESPECIALLY black and Hispanic men. The reason for this is that both of their respective cultures tend to place a lot of emphasis on manliness, or as SJWs prefer to call it, "Toxic masculinity." So, to try and in their minds remedy this, whenever a modern ultra- woke movie or show has a minority male character on it, particularly a black and/ or Hispanic male character, he tends to be portrayed as a spineless, dorky, simpy, emasculated beta- male puss for the girlboss characters to walk all over (In addition to Not- Shaggy, other examples of this principle include the 'Batwoman' show's butchery of Luke Fox, Oscar in the repugnant 'Nubia: The Real One' graphic novel, and the main girl's pathetic little weenie of a love interest in the 2019 'Black Christmas' remake- in- name- only), because such characters embody what the SJWs see as a "Safe," nonthreatening minority male whom they don't have to be scared of. It's similar to the old racist saying "You must be one of the good ones."

[@SpartanJoe193]

This is proof Mindy KKKaling doesn't understand the series even if she does love it. Iirc Shaggy gets the name from his hair so why not have black Norville have that?

[@LowellLucasJr.]

Luckily the whole race swapping thing wasn't an issue. Its just Velma herself. A selfish, hateful hypocrite who wants everyone to stop what their doing for her, but will blow you off when you need her. She also doesn't know what she wants as she'll want Freddie, blow him off when he's reciprocating, then get mad if Daphne makes out with him. Makes no sense.

[@TheLalacream]

Really makes you think what kind of person Mindy is

[@cakefrosting6451]

A hypocrite

[@CoolMintMC]

I'd argue it's still an issue, but with just how many terrible things this show did wrong, it pales in comparison.

[@megarakadmea]

I think it’s an issue because Kaling swapped three or four personality traits for the one race trait. Especially visible with Norville who isn’t allowed to have a personality because it could be offensive. But he could have had one if they left him white.

[@insheepsclothing5574]

@@megarakadmea The rac e swapping is kind of a non-issue here, it would be if being Indian was everything Velma's personnality was about. The real issue is how it becomes an excuse to have Velma hate on white men 24/7

[@protagadditc8434]

In a alternative universe Velma is enjoyable show where the gang keeps their likeability and Enjoyable quirks and have building block to their friendship with the humor Actually being funny even if decent With them actually solving mysterious

[@Yami-mugoni613]

That’s a show already it’s called “mystery inc”

[@protagadditc8434]

@@Yami-mugoni613 Oh yeah

[@Twinklethefox9022]

@@Yami-mugoni613 mystery Inc was more adult than this and it had a talking dog in it.

[@Yami-mugoni613]

@@Twinklethefox9022 that’s what I said and family guy is a “adult” show (by a technicality ) that has a talking dog

[@DarkFrozenDepths]

You know it's bad when Scooby-doo not even being in the show AT ALL is one of the BEST things... It makes it seem like he sensed the failure miles away and didn't even try to be part of it.

[@calipurnioelreydelodio7141]

Actually, there is a theory about Scooby Doo appearing on the show... But if that theory happens, trust me, it won't be worth it, because the origin of Scooby Doo would be extremely fucked up!

[@nickforgie4290]

Season 2 Scooby-Doo didn’t show up, but scrappy did to do what needed to be done.

[@oddgirl2813]

You have no idea how long I’ve been waiting for this video

[@KittyBGaming]

This just reminds me of the “I’m not starfire” thing. It’s got bad writing, self insert character, the main character is a bad person and it’s overall bad

[@Soullessnomad]

The fact that I have just started getting into writing but I feel like a god compared to Mindy's writing says a lot about the competence of her writing. I literally wheezed when they just spoke out the jokes and 'traits', subtlety? What subtlety?

[@VenusManTrap-777]

Same 🤣

[@jaysonklein6018]

"Subtle as a serpent" Or... "Subtle as a Mindy Kalling."

[@pheunithpsychic-watertype9881]

It's why I don't trust a koth revival

[@Es_gee]

Honestly I've seen wattpad stories with better writing than this

[@Zentron]

A good majority of modern toons is as self inserts for the "creators", I use that term exceedingly loosely, to act out their sexual fantasy and/or ego trips, eg, She-Ra Princesses of Power, High Guardian Spice and now Velma! Whilst many creators do insert themselves into stuff the produce, they're not inserting themselves as a main character, or even a side character, it's usually just a quick one and done cameo, sort of an easter egg for people to notice or as a joke, Stan Lee was prolific in this, but with these peeps, all they want the attention, they want to be lift high on a pedestal and be praised like gods as if they had done something amazing, something that has never been done before, though if it has, it is they have done the bestest version evarrr. It's tiring and boring, as soon as we can reset things to not be so selfish and stupid, the better!

[@talonsandtails501]

Man it goes deeper than that. It’s also that their using the things to force their political opinions down their audiences throats and are just using old iconic media to get any kind of views. It infuriates me cause it’s essentially flipping off the source material. It’s very disrespectful

[@skootergirl22]

I'm a final space fan and I can definitely tell that Gary is a self insert of the creater olan Rogers, but both look different.

[@remixchild]

Don’t put she-ra in the same category as spice and Velma, at least she-ra worked!!

[@adrielleakuryo]

"Velma: Everything wrong with modern cartoons" You mean most adult cartoons?

[@SamtheBravesFan]

Some adult cartoons are great, but they're few and far between

[@kristofgriffin384]

@fahimhoq3166 And Genndy Tartakovsky's Primal.

[@ilhambrewok7860]

@@kristofgriffin384 Don't forget Smiling Friends and Bojack Horseman, too.

[@Aizen11507]

@@SamtheBravesFan for me, I liked helluva boss and hazbin hotel as my favourite AC’s

[@lovelycloudyskies]

@@Aizen11507 um, not to be mean or anything, but HB isn’t really that great. The female characters are poorly written and are only there as a stepping stool to the male characters, the writers are trying to justify Stolas’s cheating by saying that Stella is abusive and is the only one in the wrong, painting Stolas as a Angel that can do no wrong, and the show went out of track, from being a funny dark version of the Office to being a love story drama. Blitz is the only character that’s actually written well.

[@ty-seansenior6660]

If you didn’t know, Norville is Shaggy’s real name in canon.

[@humrH2360]

Something I've noticed about Kaling's attempts at targeted humor is how she writes them with this kind of "We were all thinking it" tone, despite how so out-of-touch her humor is, with the "4-20 is code for adults who watch cartoons" being a great microcosm. When you consider how bad shows like this tend to have the writers' opinions being bludgeoned into the viewer, one can't help fear the probability that even the worst jokes this show subjects us to aren't just simply bad jokes, but Mindy Kaling's actual thoughts.

[@Rhamsody]

Mindy gave us EVERY clue before this show dropped that it would be garbage. It's a weird world we live in where "hate watching" is a thing.

[@SamtheBravesFan]

I don't think it was actually hate-watching at all. The best they could do was claim they had their best cartoon show and hired a firm to claim that interest was really high

[@skootergirl22]

Hate buying the merchandise will be next

[@SamtheBravesFan]

I can't get enough of people tearing this show a new one, because it SO deserves it. Some guys are better than others. Sure you'll join the better ones once we get going. :)

[@cakefrosting6451]

12:54 this screenshot is cursed look at where his teeth are and where his gums at XD

[@SamtheBravesFan]

@@cakefrosting6451 Yeesh. Looks like an inbetween frame

[@ThatRandomEncounterGuy]

This was a show for literally no one, that actively alienated, insulted, or openly shit-talked anyone who could’ve-or tried to-give it a chance, and the only out they could’ve had by writing it off as satire, they instead doubled down to make it the worst thing that’s ever been released under a professional label with everyone from the writers to the animators deliberately trying to get fired. I’d ask who this is for but there’s literally only one person: Mindy Kaling, the creator herself; this is a show exclusively by and for herself. This show is a money pit, and I will happily sign any boycotts, petitions, or the like to get this trash obliterated from HBO Max permanently.

[@sonicboy678]

Exhibitionists have more shame. That's all I will say.

[@Speculativedude]

It's not just that the black guy didn't like drugs. It was that the theory is that Shaggy and Scooby were always high (most likely on weed) because they were always hungry and so skittish/paranoid/easily scared.

[@EmpathNaga]

Velma is a sphinx without a riddle It's a comedy that isn't funny. It's a mystery that isn't mysterious It's a horror show that isn't scary It's an adventure that never adventures outside its principal setting It's an adult cartoon that's immature It's a shock-value show that is just gross instead of shocking It's a licensed product that mocks what came before it It's a woke commentary that doesn't have anything to say At the end of it all, you can't help but wonder, "Just what _is_ this?" And the answer is: It's just _nothing._

[@themphantom9138]

0:10 THE CONFIDENCE!! Finally Written and "Not Poorly" Edited! I always feel glad when I see Artists grow and get better it doing what they like.

[@espio329]

Norville is shaggy's given name. Shaggy is the nickname.

[@MOP1013]

Can we all talk about How Velma did a whole 360 on Norville because at first She friend zones him and after listening to some Voice messages suddenly decide that Norville is her true love while kissing Daphne

[@misterzygarde6431]

What else can I say other than that I’d trade in Velma for a revival of Mystery Incorporated since the crew did have plans to expand on a reveal in the finale if they got picked up for another season or even a revival of Be Cool Scooby Doo.

[@skootergirl22]

You mean the show that looks like seth mcfalane worked on.

[@KAMPEKItranslate]

Man this dead horse has been beaten so much it hardly resembles one anymore. But atleast Jack had the patience to wait for the season to end.

[@xrentabrainx]

Honestly Mindy's attitude when this show was first introduced kind of set the scene for me basically she was all like yeah as you'll notice Velma isn't white and I don't care

[@Groomsman]

You know a show is bad when you don’t know what side you should route for. But Velma is worse, because while you do have a side to route for, it’s not the side the writers want you to be on

[@SweetOrangeGirl]

The worst part is that this is going to get a second season. God, it’ll probably be even worse than it already was.

[@yammatio]

Here we go girls and boys, buckle your seatbelts for this one

[@YaBoiTheGrimReaper]

Like in the previous video made by Jack, I shall provide an idea that would interesting, or in this case: leagues better, cooler of a concept, and do what the dumpster fire full of septic dog shit that is Velma said it would do: It is modern day Crystal Cove, and like all things - it has changed along with the world. Over time, mysteries began to die down and the Mystery Gang went their separate ways. Fred and Daphne got married, going on to make a men and women's clothing line - Fred's ascots being well-known in high society. Shaggy put aside some of his laid-back personality, and become a famous food critic of all variety of culinary variaties. Scooby went to become an activist and representative for sapient animals like him, forming an organization for their proper representation and treatment. As one would expect, dog's don't live as long as people - so his legacy is continued on by his children. Velma would go into research and development for numerous technological discoveries and advancements - even winning a few awards and a Nobel prize. Pan back over to Crystal Cove, and we're introduced to a *variety of characters - many of which seem to follow the archetype of the original Mystery Incorporated. None of them really have any proper connections to each other (besides the "Scooby and Shaggy" characters) besides knowing each other at school. Later on in the first episode, an event occurs that shakes the whole town - a monster has been sighted attacking locals of the town. By a twist of fate, the group all end up coming together and solve the mystery, to which it garners the attention of the original characters. As the story went on, each of the previous characters would as something of a mentor to this next generation of mystery solvers - as with a small spark in their town is made, more mysteries begin to come up and spread like wildfire across the US. And then, the show's plotline would begin *the background and identity (racial, school group, sexuality, interests, etc.) are open to customization - as these would be lumps of clay capable of being made into potential characters. **in my honest opinion, however, I would preferably want this on a channel or service and be given the treatment Samurai Jack was given in its reboot - transitioning from a cartoon for kids into a show with a deeper storyline whilst still respecting the original show and its lore. If anything, have this be somewhat inspired by Scooby-Doo: Mystery Incorporated And no - theres no way in fvck I'd let Mindy or anyone like her on this. In my opinion, it'd be best to make a group consisting of members from all fields and backgrounds with differing opinions and biases - but are very much able to work together. By doing this, characters can be more rounded out rather than filling a mold for merely one singular group or demographic.

[@smashley4661]

@TheRealGrimReaper I already posted this when Jack announced that he was going to watch Velma but I’ll say it again, One of my favorite KZbinrs called the Fangirl did a video on Velma saying that it should’ve been a spoof of Scooby-Doo called ‘Selma’ (something like that). It could be done in a way similar to Venture Bros. where the characters live in the same world as Scooby-Doo, Johnny Quest, & other 60’s shows. It could be a darker story & all its own at the same time. We could see or hear about the Mystery gang but they’re trivial to the plot. Given good writers something like that could be outstanding!

[@lunatic0verlord10]

The 420 "code" is especially aggravating when you remember who has been going on a huge anti-cartoon crusade: Warner Brothers It feels straight up vindictive and spiteful. Like kicking cartoon fans while they are down.

[@BiBiren]

"If a dog can solve crimes, then Velma can be brown" Boy she never heard of K9s, does she? Also g0ddamn Scooby is part of Mystery Inc., a literal dog who's in a crime solving organization lmao. If a dog can solve crimes, then why remove him?

[@infamouswolf6655]

8:45 To me this also feels like a jab at shaggy's character since it's heavily implied that shaggy is stoned like all the time. Hearing norvell (however you spell his name) of all characters say that they don't like/do drugs makes my blood BOIL SO DAMN MUCH!

[@calipurnioelreydelodio7141]

I hate it too, but because it is simply unfunny the way they did it. It is just "Hi I'm Norville and I hate drugs". No joke, no twist, no reveal... Just "I hate drugs".

[@SamtheBravesFan]

Norville :)

[@Hawkcam1996]

4:54 To be fair, on the “Norville” point, that has actually always been his name. Shaggy is just what everyone always calls him instead.

[@pinklove1924]

I would like you to talk about the characters like how despite the show best effort to ruin both Fred and Norville, they are more tolerable than the rest of the cast. Fred is probably the best written character(which is not saying much), think about it he gets the van, his mom is dead, he changes, and "Velma" really wants us to hate him. Norville is chill but very over possessive but you feel bad for him since "Velma" treats him like shit. Dahpne is a plank of wood that functions to be the love interest with no personality and Velma is so unlikable(I will not take jabs at Mindy because I don't know her well enough)

[@finland4ever55]

Let's not forget how in she ra they made all the girls look like boys in dresses. Because I know they're teenagers instead of adults in that one but still, most are not flat. And before you fools call me a man or a pervert I am literally a woman who had gained... ahem... certain frontal assets pretty fast and early. I can attest to the fact that an average teenage girl doesn't look like a dude in a dress.

[@lovelycloudyskies]

Mindy sexually harassed a coworker, bragged about it, and then had the gall to say that white men are privileged when she didn’t even get any charges for sexual harassment.

[@Grimplays185]

"Stuck in my paradox I wanna set myself free. Maybe I should try and find before they'll try to stop it, it won't be long before I become a puppet. It's been so long, since I last have seen my daughter (son) lost to this monster, to the the woman (man) behind the slaughter" Deadass The Woman is Mindy The daughter is Velma The person singing is The Creator wishing he could prevent this blazing cesspool of toxicity 😭😭😭 "I wished I lived in the present, with the gift of my past mistakes, but the future keeps luring in like a pack of snakes." That's HOPEFULLY Mindy's or at least HBOs regret of airing this garbage. "Your sweet little eyes, your little smile is all I can remember, those fuzzy memories mess with my temper" How the fanbase remembers The mostly consistent (because they're a multitude of iterations) portrayal of Velma throughout the decades being engulfed by fury through the sheer disgusting display of her character in the show. Aka The Backlash. "Justification is killing me but killing isn't justified, what happened to my daughter (son) I'm terrified. It lingers in my mind and the thought keeps on getting bigger. I'm sorry, my sweet baby I wished I've been there." That's Mindy slaughtering Velma and using her as a meat suit to possessing her corpse (Like a certain game I wonder which one? 🤔) And how the caring creators would never ever would of allowed this horrifying anomaly of a show to exist that are spiritually rolling in their graves rn. They would of prevented this if all the good OG Creators were still here today! 😭😭😭

[@lovelycloudyskies]

We need to save Velma from Mindy

[@CandyThePuppy]

It's funny how this show absolutely exploded. Thought it'd just be ignored for the most part at first. 😅

[@Natalie66796]

I adore the Mystery Gang's friendship and how wholesome it is. However, Velma seems to have forgotten that was made the series so great.

[@viktoria_pikovsky]

OMG, the review is on! And it came a lot sooner than what I expected, a whole month that is. Yet the timing can't be any more perfect. Season 1 just finished, so now we can start with the REAL show! And oh boy, what a stinker this NOT- Scooby Doo spin-off was. I watched the entire thing (whishing I didn't), and..... that's was a massive slap to the ENTIRE franchise. I will save my thoughts on each bad moment for the respective episode reviews once they come out, but one thing I have to say now is this- This show shits on every single beloved moment, character and Easter egg from the SD franchise with no tomorrow. You cannot go 2 scenes without a joke or comment that takes a massive dump on SD and mainstream media in general, and each of this scenes got me to beat my head against a wall in rage and cringe. I cannot fathom the amount of hate Velma has against SD, to a point I question whether Mindy Kaling truly loved Velma (the character) and the SD show as much as she claims. Yet the funniest thing in this whole deal, and I hope Jack would point it out in his later videos is that the show still referenced SD and other Hanna- Barbera shows A LOT throughout it's runtime, to a point that I felt the animators and writers wanted the viewers to notice them and go frame by frame pointing them all out like people do for any other good shows and movies. There are the obvious references that's are talked a lot by the reviewers, yet there are also a few sneaky ones in the background details. Actually, the background details themselves tell a far more compelling story than the writers themselves, up to a point that it's fun to stop at random scenes and analyze everything that isn't the characters on screen. There even are some cool gags you can catch like the gay dudes couple who is constantly running around while French kissing each other. Beyond this..... The show blows, I hate myself for watching it full, the mystery ultimately made no fucking sense and the reveal of the true culprit was so out of a left field, that the show didn't leave any clues to their identity AT ALL. Can't wait for Jack to rip into this one, cause this show needs a good thorough beating.

[@AlexHedgefox]

10:33 the "joke" about norville liking drugs is not about being PC, its more or less mocking the scooby doo community, cuz theres been a common joke/theory/headcanon that Shaggy is a stoner cuz of how he sounds, how he talks, and how he eats. so the people behind the show are trying to be "subversive" against the "Shaggy joke" by having Norville say he doesnt like drugs. tl;dr their shaggy(norville) is going against what people expect actual Shaggy to be like.

[@calipurnioelreydelodio7141]

But here's the thing: You can make Shaggy not a stoner... BUT MAKE IT FUNNY! Like, for a few episodes or an entire season make us think that Shaggy enjoys smoke blunts, like a hint there, a hint here... And suddenly, make the plot twist that he was never smoking cannabis, but he was helping people leaving it. Not the best comical twist ever made, but 1000% better than "Hi, I'm Norville and I don't like drugs"

[@jaysonklein6018]

Eh... Shaggy being a pothead is leagues better than Norville being a beta-male simp.

[@AlexHedgefox]

@@calipurnioelreydelodio7141 i wasnt defending the show, i was explaining for jack what the "joke" was supposed to be.

[@AlexHedgefox]

@@jaysonklein6018 i wasnt defending the show, i was explaining for jack what the "joke" was supposed to be.

[@skootergirl22]

Well the OG was released duing the 70s when hippies were a thing and weed was legal

[@ShadyDoorags]

Norville's drug joke is more about how everyone always assumed Shaggy was a stoner more than it is about fighting black stereotypes. The joke is still awful, but we need to be fair.

[@krnatsu]

HBO's Velma is just another example of everything wrong with modern interpretations of stories we love. Making shitty versions of classic characters we love and proceeding to tell is these knew versions are better. Hiding behind a mask of "representation" only to have said representation be horrible. Humour that isn't actually that funny and of course pretentious writers who think they know better than the fans of a franchise they don't give a shit about. As someone who wants to be a writer, these are things that infuriate me for all the reasons I just mentioned. Spiderman is my favourite super hero, if I ever got the chance to write a cartoon or a comic about him, I'd keep him in character whilst also trying to do something knew that's respectful to Stan Lee, Steve Ditco and my fellow Spiderfans. I also wouldn't say "oh people don't like it, it must be because I had a couple of non-white people as background characters and not the main group." I think I mentioned this during Jack's 'I'm Not Starfire' series, but I have written a self insert, but not only is said insert a character separate for any other franchise, but I actually gave him flaws that (hopefully) wouldn’t retract others from finding him likeable. Although apparently Mindy self inserts A LOT, so I'm not surprised. And Jack you are 100% right in saying this is worse than HGS, simply because at least with HGS the only reputation it ruined was its own. Velma spits in both its own and Scooby-Doo's reputation. Its just Scooby-Doo's version of Ghostbusters 2016 or the Star Wars sequel trilogy. Looking forward to part 2

[@pokemonfan7577]

Velma is so bad that I have not seen or met a single person who likes the show. I have seen some bad stuff, but there is always someone who likes the bad stuff. But I have not found a single person who actually enjoys Velma. That's how you know it's bad.

[@elviciotpd786]

IMO, the fact that Norville states that he hates drugs is related to the theory that Shaggy is a goofy stoner, so the show creators wanted to make it clear that Norville is a black guy who's mature, responsible and doesn't go around smoking weed or anything of the sort, unlike trashy Shaggy.

[@PauloShiotsuki]

This show can be a lot better if you change this. Mindy, a writer cosplayer in coma after hit a stone, became Velma, her beloved character, doing things like a scooby doo bad episode made by the confusion of her twisted mind (maybe) because of the stone hit.

[@CarbonatedToast55]

Really like the new look of your avatar, love the stylization

[@kieran2525]

The fact that this woman laughed at the legacy of this beloved franchise pisses me off so much, instead of making a cool series about the gang being old and solving a last mistery together they did this huge pile of crap

[@lasarousi]

The idea of Scooby-Doo that "the real monster is always a person" taken into a mature show sounded so appealing. But they decided to make it about pelvic organs and skin tones that has no general social critique but shallow high school and family issues that are in every fucking show whose creator having trauma is a quirk to monetize.

[@DeeRhoe]

Media like this is why I started judging people based off what shows or movies they like.

[@Muna-Jlore0997]

thank god, i'd only watched two episodes of that monstrosity because as I watch it, I completely forgot this was a mystery-solving show. velma didn't solve any crimes only the fact all she did just pissing everyone off for no reason.

[@moon4236]

I've been waiting for this moment. At least high guardian is an original creation lol

[@mikukurisaki3413]

"I'm sorry for not putting you into a vat of boiling glass and salt" could not come off sounding any more threatening than saying "hey, I'm watching Velma, and you're watching with me"

[@FoxesAndStrawberries]

5:50 this quote sounds like Mindy is calling Velma a dog :/

[@YLGABL]

aight time to rewrite the entire show i did once before with High guardian spice, this will be a task of making well here's a quote from me "If you wanna have an adult-spin off YOU GOTTA make so you don't hurt the og fans of the original show AND DONT make it so bad" there. Now im gonna try and think of a better way the spin-off could've been and Yes Yes im REWRITING THE ENTIRE SHOW Yes Yes

[@seaurchin7]

This show brings a new meaning to explosive diarrhea

[@wolfherojohnson2766]

WE GOT A REPORT OF SOMEONE WITH EXPLODING DIARRHEA! WHO IS IT!?

[@kaiserdragon7233]

8:13 Funny enough, if you follow the scooby doo movies. It was shaggy and scrubby who founded it. The rest came in after a period of time

[@k00lerkid_]

As a HUGE scooby doo fan: This physically hurts to watch my favorite franchise of all time turn into….this.

[@Sivick314]

Velma actually is better than high guardian spice. Occasionally it has good animation. why it's hated more is because nobody had any expectations of HGS. Velma took a beloved property and shit all over it, and for that we burn the show at the stake. Scooby didn't deserve this travesty of a show.

[@theoriginaldemiurge]

The thing about leadership in Scooby doo is that in more modern interpretations of these characters Fred isn't so much the leader but like a "playmaker" for lack of the better word. He's the guy thas a plan, makes sure everyone knows what their job is but he doesn't really call the shots, at least not by himself Velma and daphne seem to have a lot of control over decision making, if anything daphne's really more of a leader since she's like the party's "face".

[@dragonhearthx8369]

KZbin ad insert is funny. "So let's begin..." ad plays speaking Japanese.

[@ravencrow1011]

This show is a modernized version of bat wanting get into both side with lion and eagle in aesop tale

[@DigitalGame18]

I said it before and I’ll say it now. Velma is what happens when someone whose on the far end of progressive tries to make their own social commentary but A) is not talented enough to disguise their racism and biases with the usual vernacular and sophistry and B) is not smart enough to understand comedy past surface level reference humor. This show is basically family guy if everyone constantly made in-jokes and never used clips to explain them.

[@Enter_the_Toshiverse_1996]

I don't hate this show because of the offensive political jokes, I don't care much for politics in first place, I hate it because the writing is so infuriating and insipid and childish that it makes me wish Thanos would suddenly show up in my house and snap me out of existence so I can forget this exists...😒

[@galacticknight55544]

I wonder what would happen if fake Velma met real Velma.

[@MakaTheBiscut]

Just wanna say ur new stills are absolutely gorgeous!

[@jilliancrawford7577]

Oddly enough, South Park is the opposite of this show in being a parody that makes fun of everyone but it does it in a way that works. I think it's because South Park is honest about everyone being up for the chopping block and not lying about who it caters to while this show does.

[@talonsandtails501]

Ever since it was released I’ve just been waiting for blacklightjack to tear into it. And finally the legend had arrived to join the fight

[@blurryluigiphoto8569]

Man oh man I sure do love a self insert disguised as a popular ip

[@DigimontamerB]

Remember, in Mindys mind, the gang being thanked as a team, and all contributing in their own way, is Velma doing all the work, a d getting no credit.

[@zaktilton1680]

I have to agree bud 100%. you are right. This entire show is nothing but Mindy Kaling still holding a grudge against things that didn't go exactly her way in her life, or high school. Things she's probably never gotten over and refuses to .

[@jamall7003]

Good job my guy. You managed to be the few that resisted watching the show until it was finished to then bash on it. I wish other people would be like this

[@BlooperTanooki]

I wonder how these creators feel about this kind of backlash. Do they feel the need to make a better work? Do they pause a bit and tell themselves that they can do better with the opportunities they have? I mean, even HGS's creator ended up blaming the budget in the end and whatnot, but if I had the chance to even create a new show, I dunno, I would make sure it is the best I can do. It is a golden opportunity.

[@wolfherojohnson2766]

Shaggy was always just a nickname. His first name was always Norville. Doesn’t make this dumpster fire look good though

[@kakashihatake313]

In case you didn't know, norville is shaggy's real name.

[@ultra6671]

Honestly, as soon as I saw they cast Glenn Howerton as Fred, I had a feeling they were going to make him a narcissist on the level of someone like Dennis Reynolds.

[@caseykazem4049]

You want to know the sad thing about this show, high guardian spice had an excuse for why it was bad, lack of budget, time and good management, plus the company didn’t give much a crap about so there’s that. This has no excuse. What even sadder is that other projects were cancelled but this was the only one they kept. This could have been cancelled and we could have gotten something like high rise.

[@lilcluck]

You know, Velma reminds me of the time when people were trashing on Mary Sues. So, to remedy this, artists made their OCs as unlikable as physically possible.

[@Steambull1]

All the noise about this show made me think of the original series, and I felt like re-watching it. I just finished both seasons of "Scooby-Doo, Where Are You!" (1969-1970), and now watching the 2nd series, "The New Scooby-Doo Movies," with the celebrity guests and doubled runtime per episode. Planning to entirely re-watch The Scooby-Doo / Dynomutt Hour from 1976-1978 as well. No Scrappy-Doo series, though :P In the original show, Fred is indeed the one who seems to call the shots, but Velma is kind of like his main peer with the investigative stuff. Daphne is the useless one that just makes exposition remarks. It's kinda funny how, whenever they ALL get scared and jump into each other's hands (which is usually only done by Scooby and Shaggy), it's Velma who ends up staying on her feet and carrying them all, as even Fred jumps on the pile. I'm not sure if Velma is supposed to be the most self-controlled out of them, or if this was just because it'd be awkward to draw her being carried (as she wears a skirt without stockings). Anyway, just seeing this kind of a modern take on them makes me roll my eyes. I cannot get mad for something so far removed from the real thing. Like, sure, the 1969 show was aimed at teenagers of the time, with the cast having beach parties and using words like "groovy," but it's still a show for all ages. If you wanna strip the show of the titular character AND the innocent fun, you should just make a new show. But, we all know the deal - when you don't want to take risks, you just utilize a classic IP.

[@hassathunter2464]

It's never not funny how checking ALL the boxes on their wishlist... you're an alt-right psy-ops. We all knew they like moving their goalpost, but even that one took me by surprise.

[@icecreamhero2375]

5:56 Is she talking about another dog? Brian Griffin when he was a police dog. I don't recall Scooby ever solving the crimes. That was mostly Fred and Velma. Shaggy and Scooby were comic relief who got scared.

[@calipurnioelreydelodio7141]

As the movies remind us: They are the ones wearing the costumes to act like chump for the monster.

[@claytonrios1]

What's New Scooby Doo? Thank God this show doesn't have you! Velma can't solve a single mystery! I don't see you Scooby Doo, this show certainly blew! What's New Scooby Doo?

[@b.bones10]

omg i was looking for a video to listen to while i draw this is perfect

[@Hey_How_Does_This_Work]

When I had seen the part where Norville said he hated drugs & then blinked in silence, I though it was a joke. Like, "haha, he's just pretending he doesn't like drugs & he's doing a bad job at convincing people" kinda way. 11/5/23

[@scratchcatmeowth5615]

I've been waiting for this review. You got this man.👍👍

[@ferrishthefish]

"If race swapping in real life (e.g. blackface) can be racist, then race swapping in fiction can be racist."

[@oliverklinton7164]

You know, having suffered through “Ninja Turtles: The Next Mutation” awhile back, I didn’t think I’d come across anything worse then that. But someone said “hold my beer”, and showed me this.

[@kingagrabowska9366]

So the whole point of those murders was to give Fred a new brain. Let's make a bullet point of everything that doesn't make sense with this plan. - If the point is to make Fred smarter why still the brains of teenage girls? The girls aren't some kind of geniuses, they're hot and by extension presumably dumb according to the show. Why not still the brain of some CEO? They clearly have connections with people like that. Is the joke supposed to be that anyone would be smarter than Fred? - If she has the ability to hypnotize people why doesn't she hypnotize Fred into being a perfect CEO? - If Fred's parents are so adamant about him inheriting the company and being a manly man why did they start just now? Shouldn't they have been preparing him since he was born? You know, making him go to a special school with extra classes, hiring private teachers, making him do extra activities like all kinds of sports, etc. Stereotypical rich kid stuff. Fred is very obedient and wants to do everything to please his parents. He can at least try. According to the show he totally changed after reading just one book on feminism. Make him read something useful! - Fred's mom better not pull this feminist bullshit. She killed innocent girls because she didn't raise her son properly. I bet the writers were patting themselves on the back. ''Everybody expects that the killer will be a white straight male but it is actually a white straight lady. Aren't we so subversive?'' - If people retain their memory even in a different body, how else would Fred be smarter, and that's what Fred's mom's comment to Velma alludes to, what's stopping whoever will be in Fred's body from telling the truth? The possibilities of rich white male privilege? - Why kill all these girls? Shouldn't she immediately make a switch as soon as she got the first brain? Or was she not satisfied with the brains she got and went on hunting until she finds the one she likes? In that case, she should've gotten to know the people before she murdered them for nothing and potentially incriminated herself. Held some competition or a test and attack the winner or something.

[@BloodyWinterwolf]

The point that Victoria had was not to make a smarter Fred, but have a popular person with a woman's perspective able to enjoy the accolades and power that come from being a privileged white male.

[@its_gxl420babae3]

Guys, I think we were a bit too harsh on she hulk...

[@riverjoy5658]

Love the vid! Great editing, and solid points imo. I have to agree with one point a lot though; How else am I supposed to watch this show, if I'm not trashed?

[@nekomimi3541]

I can't wait to watch the rest of your series on this. I've already watched someone else's reaction to each episode (reaction and not a breakdown, so very much looking forward to your dissection of it), and it's amazing that everything you've speculated just from the trailer is what happens throughout the series! It's so sad and so fascinating at the same time!

[@Cp-71]

Let me grab my cereal, I've been waiting for this video for a long time!

[@SebasTian58323]

Biggest problem is that they're using Scooby Doo characters for this. Show would've been a little less hated if it wasn't beloved characters being pretty much character assassinated for the sake of Mindy's ego. If you wanted to use an existing IP, why not just have the show set in the Scooby Doo universe as sn emerging group of crime solvers that occasionally meet up or compete with the mystery gang to solve mysteries but focusing on more gruesome crimes while the mystery gang focuses on the more mystical and less gruesome ones. Have some of the previous VAs for the mystery gang reprise their roles generate some good will with fans, and have their own original awful characters not polluting the mystery gang characters