VeloBuild 177 Review - Verdict: Lightweight Affordability

[@PatrickLino]

Beta male incels...UNITE!

[@NeutralGenericUser]

As someone who watches anime, I'm in. By the way, as a biker, you kind of have to watch Yowamushi Pedal 😂

[@PatrickLino]

@@NeutralGenericUser Noooo 🤣

[@PatrickLino]

@Joe Nkosi Hey Buddy - Please contact VeloBuild directly on their website or their Instagram for assistance 👍🏾

[@drsmoooth8787]

Nice review… I pulled the trigger on a VB218. Will do vids on my build.

[@PatrickLino]

@@drsmoooth8787 nice!! Let me know how it goes

[@ff2e]

I've been dipping my toes in chinese carbon with bars/stems/seat posts/wheels and everything I've had has been great. I may look into this for my next road bike build!

[@PatrickLino]

Thanks for watching!

[@johnaldred6864]

Loving the videos ....light n' breezy just as it should be ..!

[@PatrickLino]

Thanks for watching!

[@NeutralGenericUser]

Thanks for the review of all these frames, Patrick! I hope you have that headset issue resolved. Honestly, headset issues with carbon steerers with compression plugs is something that is not talked about often enough. It just makes you lose all confidence and enjoyment in a bike :( (I speak from experience, unfortunately). Also, you almost got us there with the 'subscribe' lmao

[@PatrickLino]

There's no need to ask people to subscribe and like at this point. You either do or you dont LoL

[@NeutralGenericUser]

@@PatrickLino Anyone who isn't subscribed is just missing out lol

[@ThePlanetSammy]

Hello Patrick, I also had problems with the play of the headset on my cyclocross bike for years. The "game changer" was the additional installation of a mini spacer, e.g. "FSA spacer rings Micro-Spacer for integrated headset". After that I had no more problems with it, only 1€ but a big impact! Greetings Sammy

[@PatrickLino]

Thanks Sammy! Any links to these micro spacers?

[@ThePlanetSammy]

@@PatrickLino I cannot insert a direct link into KZbin (KZbin delete all direct links…spam…) but when you copy the text between the quotation marks, you will find the right article. If not, I can create a short clip of the micro spacer and how to install it.

[@PatrickLino]

@@ThePlanetSammy Thank you!!!

[@whitebeardcycles]

TBF I had a set of 3T alloy wheels around that depth and that weight and once your up to speed you don't really notice too much especially on the flats, its more in the feel difference between carbon and alloy on the road. Killer review, I like the style!

[@PatrickLino]

Thanks David!!

[@oliverdowd1978]

I have the velobuild aero frame and for a build under $2k it can easily compete with the top super bikes in most conditions.

[@PatrickLino]

Good to know! What wheels you got?

[@oliverdowd1978]

@@PatrickLino prime RR-50s but have some winspace in the mail to try out. The weather is also turning nice here so I went out for some KOM action a couple days ago: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hoXMdpVmebxrgtE

[@xgalvan1]

Long fingers on the thumb and fingers look like the Grinch. Got Emmmmmmmmmmmm!

[@PatrickLino]

@@xgalvan1 Hands are fitting like magnum XL

[@galenkehler]

The old adage "light, strong, or cheap: you can pick 2" totally applies to those wheels! I think 1800g is actually pretty great for that price, and really not that bad of a weight anyway!

[@PatrickLino]

The weight weenies are not gonna like this.

[@galenkehler]

lol you're newer to cycling but it wasn't that long ago that 1800g was a lightweight wheel anyway 🤣🤣🤣

[@PatrickLino]

@@galenkehler Sounds horrible. Thank you for paving the way 🤣

[@pierrex3226]

@@PatrickLino 1800g is with rim tape but without tyres and tubes and cassette, correct?

[@PatrickLino]

@@pierrex3226 yuppp 😬

[@jonathankirwan5757]

Keep them coming Pat!

[@PatrickLino]

Thank you 🙏🏾

[@salsalawyer]

I would love to see how it does with upgraded wheels.

[@JohnJez]

Hi Patrick, love the build, want to do one myself! May I ask, what is the colour called on this frame? Look forward to the next video! Thanks, Alex

[@PatrickLino]

Thanks for watching! Chameleon blue and purple.

[@Myn0rTHRET]

Thanks for the video Patrick. I just ordered this frameset in size 52 and want to know what adapter your using for the Wahoo?

[@PatrickLino]

Howdy! Search Amazon for this: "Thinvik Out-Front Extended Bike Computer Mount for Wahoo"

[@richardggeorge]

Great review. Thanks 👍

[@PatrickLino]

Thanks for watching 👍🏾👍🏾

[@charlesblithfield6182]

Nice review Patrick. Question: for medium size what would the minimum rider height be? IOW what’s the cutoff rider size between small and medium?

[@PatrickLino]

The best thing to do is compare the geometry to your current bike. Saddles and cockpits can always be adjusted, and everyone has a different build type.

[@PatrickLino]

Usually it’s better to take the smaller of the two sizes.

[@RudiDwiHartanto]

this velobuild frame looks like delihea rest tank. I have the rim brake delihe rest one and its actually comparable to most mid range superbike for almost half the price lol. Good video. Also with these cheap frames i also try to build it with much better compression plug (the one from FSA pretty long and deep 👀👀), and yeah putting extra spacer on top help secure it even better. Although i check it every 2000km or so to make sure its still intact.

[@PatrickLino]

Thanks for watching!

[@cornelhughes6763]

No the Velobuild 168 is more like the tank. They both have the same geometry as the Tarmac sl7, while the 177 is based on the scott addict.. Almost ended up purchasing the tank, instead of the 168 but a Velobuild purchase comes with less hassles (probably due to Chris) and more available stock to facilitate a quicker purchase. Like you too based on research went with a longer compression plug. Happy with the Velobuild purchase

[@PatrickLino]

@@cornelhughes6763 Actually the 168 is the same as my Dengfu R12

[@GGGGGG-et7mm]

Hi Patrick, I watch your channel from Mexico (Y) I have a question, your seatpost have a 3D o UD carbon fiber? and what is better? :)

[@PatrickLino]

UD is better 👍🏾

[@GGGGGG-et7mm]

@@PatrickLino thanks, great videos.

[@brianmccallum7749]

Love Chicago and riding through it. Next time I hope to bring or rent a road bike and not Divvy bike at 200lbs each. GP 5000s rock. Into the bike build and thanks

[@PatrickLino]

Ayyye thanks Brian! Great city for cycling. Super flat too 🤣

[@swites]

Looks a great bike for the price. Yeah i reckon polarised training is the way to go. Just means when you do your efforts you can hit your max watts for the session rather than being too tired to hit the bigger numbers.

[@PatrickLino]

Good to know!

[@tomasvelez260]

@Patrick I'm looking for a bomb proof set of training wheels also the heavier the better. Any recommendations?

[@tomasvelez260]

The cheaper the better 🤣. This ones?

[@PatrickLino]

Anything alloy on the used market!

[@mariomedina3173]

what is the name of the website to buy that frame

[@PatrickLino]

VeloBuild

[@dylanbeechey]

“I wear fluro to not get hit, somehow I keep getting hit…ON!”

[@PatrickLino]

🤣🤣no comment

[@michaelkaine345]

I'm in the market for a trainer frame & was debating between this and the windspace frame with a used affordable Groupset if I can find one. I've given up trying to safely attach my Cervelo to any trainer. Could not get this bike to work properly with the Wahoo kickr no matter how many adapters they sent, So that got returned. it seemed to work fine with the tacx Neo 2T but I've noticed some damage to my rear caliper and some frame rub. The Neo 2t is In my opinion far superior to the kickr smart when it comes to ride quality and simulating real-world feel, Garmin would blow Wahoo off it's petals if they purchased or collabed with Elite to make the Rizer available in the 🇺🇸 .

[@PatrickLino]

My Dengfu R12 had similar issues with the Kickr. The VB 177 works just fine 👍🏾

[@michaelkaine345]

@@PatrickLino thanks again man. I have that same outfit from castelli with a similar mushroom helmet (Bell z20) luckily I'm already married and my wife claims that she doesn't believe in divorce. Is that a kask proton helmet? If yes how do you prevent it from cutting into your forehead. Very comfortable to wear but my head and forehead looks crazy after taking it off

[@rwillems0000]

So much to love in this one.

[@PatrickLino]

Thank you Bob, for being you!

[@TheCyclissimo]

"Now that its dry, and *warm* "... My man, you got a jacket and winter gloves on.

[@PatrickLino]

The two days before I filmed this it was 70 degrees on Monday and Sunday. And on this day it was 45 🤷🏾‍♂

[@ashally6268]

Hi There, wanted to know if you had the paint done through velobuild? I've heard they have something like that but haven't noticed.

[@PatrickLino]

Yup VeloBuild did the paint. There is a small surcharge for the service.

[@ashally6268]

@@PatrickLino thanks for reply, I will look into it.

[@paulmorrison30]

Great review and very nice setup 👍🏾. Who doesn’t love riding on a stiff one 🤔

[@PatrickLino]

Hahaha exactly! Wait, what!?

[@paulmorrison30]

@@PatrickLino 🤣🤣🤣

[@hankbohanon8087]

Hi Patrick, this was a great video. I contacted Velo, they said this frame is comparable to the Scott Addict. I was debating between this and the more endurance frame (066). I know the 177 is more performance oriented, which is great. Do you think it is so aggressive in set up that someone who is not super flexible would not enjoy it?

[@PatrickLino]

Technically you could probably get any frame to work for your personal setup. However, if you aren’t sure then it’s best to seek a professional bike fitter. At the very least compare your current bike frame geometry to that of the 066 and 177 👍🏾

[@hankbohanon8087]

@@PatrickLino thanks Patrick

[@hankbohanon8087]

@@PatrickLino thanks again for all your help! Are you riding the North Shore Century this weekend?

[@PatrickLino]

@@hankbohanon8087 Is that this weekend? Yikes I forgot ☹️

[@amatoridrottaren]

Hi Patrick! How did do mount the top cap. I feel like its slipping down, and it feels weak when tightening the stem.

[@PatrickLino]

Check my update video here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qKmwf6WlYsllaKM

[@amatoridrottaren]

@@PatrickLino Thank you. But I noticed that you had an extra top cap in the biggining. Do you feel that the one they provided is stable. It feels hollow and fragile.

[@PatrickLino]

@@amatoridrottaren after fixing the issue I didn’t need the cap anymore. Super stable no slop

[@amatoridrottaren]

@@PatrickLino Thank you❤️

[@amatoridrottaren]

Hi Again! I did not really get it to work on my gravel bike. After a couple of miles, it started to slip. I took a regular top cap instead, and only filed off a little bit on one side. Then could use it instead and be able to squeeze properly. I have only attached the usual top cap as a lid to make it look nice afterwards. Became a very good solution. could tighten with just over 5 nM. The regular just bent down when you pulled so hard. I could send a picture if you are interested.

[@huguesvanneaud1879]

Bought a frame frame from Velobuild after watching this excellent review. Sadly, I discovered a big void in the fork upon receiving the frame. Velobuild acknowledged the problem (pretty crazy such a default passed their quality standards) and offered me a 30$ compensation. I insisted upon either receiving a new fork or sending everything back to them. They finally agreed to send me a new fork, but I've been waiting for them to send it for over two weeks now. I'm getting quite worried because they promise me two times already that they will send it the next day... Future buyers be aware... (No hate for @Patrick Lino, love your chanel!)

[@PatrickLino]

Thanks for watching! I hope VeloBuild continues to make an effort to improve their QC and customer service.

[@VanDungLe2510]

How did it go on your side?

[@PatrickLino]

@@VanDungLe2510 Who's side?

[@VanDungLe2510]

I meant the OP 😂

[@PatrickLino]

@@VanDungLe2510 🤣🤣

[@davewattimena3491]

A nice bike for the budget. Good review too

[@PatrickLino]

Agreed.

[@jediavatar]

"beta male incel will never stop talking about Japanese anime" Oh Patrick, I laughed way too hard at that line.😂

[@PatrickLino]

Hopefully they dont watch my channel right? RIGHT?

[@jasonargyropoulos2674]

I know im late to the party but when you say Winspace is a cut above; do you mean in terms of fit and finish strictly? Or is it an obvious difference in ride quality as well?

[@PatrickLino]

literally every single aspect haha

[@Nerumint]

I'm a 15-year-old student looking for a race bike. Do you think I should save my money up until I can purchase a "branded" frame? or should I buy a bike from VeloBuild and use it until I can offer an actual frame? Also, do you really think its safe to ride without any failures? thanks!

[@PatrickLino]

I always recommend to spend as much as you can afford, and your budget allows. The VB 177 and 168 frames are a great value. There are no issues if you use their integrated handlebars 👍🏾

[@Nerumint]

@@PatrickLino Thanks for the quick response! I’ll do more research and see if its really worth it for me. After all 800$ is still a lot for a kid like me 😅

[@PatrickLino]

@@Nerumint I would also recommend looking at VeloBuild’s 168 frame instead of 177. The 168 is very similar to the Tarmac SL7 and is more race focused

[@Nerumint]

@@PatrickLino Thanks! Will do.

[@raphaelbartolome2265]

What are yout throughts on the carbon stem/handlebars? I went through the video and not sure if you covered them.

[@PatrickLino]

6:35

[@Fl4tFour4]

I live in the Chicagoland area too! Would you trust this bike with all the potholes we have? I'm nervous with VeloBuild because I've seen reviews where they would just use the bikes in their trainers and not actually ride them outside. A VeloBuild bike would transition to be my primary bike. Also, how long did it take for you to receive your frame once you ordered it? Thanks!

[@PatrickLino]

Howdy. There are several logical reasons why you avoid potholes at all cost, regardless of frame LoL. I just recently built a gravel bike with 32c tires and I still avoid potholes like the plague. Ride quality though will depend on the wheels and tires you run. Regarding delivery...it took about 3-4 weeks I believe. Let me know what you decide!

[@Fl4tFour4]

@@PatrickLino I'm deciding between the VB-R-068, Yoeleo R6, and the Winspace SLC2.0 frames. I also have the Winspace Lun 60mm. Just can't decide -- obviously they are all at different price points, just worried about the quality of the VeloBuild.

[@PatrickLino]

@@Fl4tFour4 If you have money for the SLC2.0...get the SLC

[@tylersnow75]

@@Fl4tFour4 I like the vbr 077 it’s the lightest bike on the website

[@goldenretriever6261]

Can you fit 32mm file tread cross tires? I want to use it as an all road bike.

[@PatrickLino]

Slicks probably. Knobby tires might be tough.

[@EddieRyce]

Ha Ha dry and Warm - with warm weather Gabba on :)

[@PatrickLino]

😭😭

[@ericdeng7315]

VeloBuild 177 resembles which bike frame or which bike frame is it suppose to clone?

[@PatrickLino]

No clue

[@michaelscholl4541]

whats that stem? looks great

[@Reggiebush777]

It's the velobuild separate stem and bar iirc

[@PatrickLino]

@@Reggiebush777 yup, I mention it in the video 🙏🏾

[@michaelscholl4541]

thank you^^

[@onacoffeeride]

I’m new to all of this and looking to go with the 168 frame. If you could clarify, even the separated bar and stem allows for integrated cables?

[@PatrickLino]

@@onacoffeeride yup. My setup is fully integrated 👍🏾

[@resto4633]

Would you trust the bike for racing and doing tricks like jumping/bunny hopping?

[@PatrickLino]

LoL what kind of bunny hopping? 🤣

[@resto4633]

@@PatrickLino I mean do you really think the frame is completely safe to ride on?

[@lilth501]

I would say that frame is the same one I got through a brand called Elves - Vanya. The only diffrence is my fork looks slimmer I'm a 58 kilo guy so this bike suits me. I've got my bike weight down to 7.05 kilos. For someone who's not a power rider this bike feels stiff as hell. I found it to be fast and lite and a great alrounder in my opion.

[@PatrickLino]

Thanks for watching!

[@demarcuss.3130]

If you're not first you're last!

[@PatrickLino]

hahaha yo!

[@brackenlong3732]

Is it possible 140mm rotor for rear wheel?

[@PatrickLino]

The rear rotor is 140

[@brackenlong3732]

@@PatrickLino Thx so much

[@AnythingUnderTheMoon]

does the handle bar flex when sprinting?

[@PatrickLino]

9:45 mark

[@mauritzallberg7302]

Good chanel and u funny..keep it up

[@PatrickLino]

Thanks Mauritz for letting watching!

[@FaigMir]

I have considered this frame, but as an engineer I understand perfectly well that light cannot be rigid. and I was thinking of buying this frame. but I hate frames with presfit. I consider these frames to be neutered) since I am engaged in assembling and disassembling my bicycles, I would not disassemble these carriages all the time, this would just kill the frame. therefore, only the thread

[@PatrickLino]

Thankfully, there are plenty of good frames for sale these days. Let me know what you decide

[@dainiusvysniauskas2049]

Are there any budget-ish (aka under a grand) Chinese frames that you'd recommend that would be threaded? Not a fan of pressfit BBs myself, considering tolerances of average manufacturer. I want to do a semi-lightweight build next year with good tire clearance.

[@pattencycling]

Bro bad ass video

[@PatrickLino]

Thank you!

[@phillevin6651]

Hi viz is the way to go 100%. In Europe many countries now by law on motorcycles you must wear hi viz. France for instance..

[@PatrickLino]

Thanks for watching!

[@OVOCNYCHECK]

what´s japanese anime?

[@PatrickLino]

👀👀

[@danieltull3622]

Polarized training right?

[@PatrickLino]

yup!

[@vuxitoki1545]

Hey what do you think of the new Allez Sprint Pat??

[@benjaminwolf9801]

Expensive!

[@PatrickLino]

HEAVY!

[@vuxitoki1545]

@@PatrickLino I'm so relieved I pulled the trigger on an SL6 Pro!

[@PatrickLino]

@@vuxitoki1545 The new Allez frame in a size 52 weighs around 1500g 😮

[@vuxitoki1545]

@@PatrickLino 🙆‍♂️ unreal..what's crazy is how Cory will make that look like a feather..damn 🥲

[@stevenlevitz8895]

This Easter, will you be planting eggs to grow eggplant?

[@stevenlevitz8895]

Long live eggplant 🍆 jokes!

[@PatrickLino]

FO LYFE

[@traversecitysufferclub]

Damn bro! I thought you were picking on me just because I watch anime. I had to look up what an incel is. I'm not one. Lol. I'm still working on my build. They keep moving the arrival dates for my cassette :/ Keep up the good work!

[@PatrickLino]

Hahaha thanks for watching. Shout out for not being an incel.

[@cornelhughes6763]

JE, Looking forward to your review. Completed Setup of my 168 a few days ago and I am setting new PR's

[@Losman0007]

Eggplants, whats wrong with eggplant. I love eggplant....

[@PatrickLino]

🤣🤣🤣

[@andy-wp7gq]

about VeloBuild 168 ...

[@PatrickLino]

???

[@onacoffeeride]

I’m looking at 168, too.

[@PatrickLino]

@@onacoffeeride 168 is more aero focused. Can’t go wrong either way!

[@cornelhughes6763]

Purchased it about 2 months ago, love it

[@PatrickLino]

@@cornelhughes6763 Nice! What do you love about it??

[@BioStuff415]

heavy wheels for training - not a bad thing. People in Iraq won't visit Chicago.

[@PatrickLino]

Bang bang!

[@chriscross5689]

Get some Elite Wheels from aliexpress.

[@PatrickLino]

But I already own both Elite Drive 45D and 65D...

[@EddieRyce]

Ha Ha I googled incels - man eery day is a school day, I love your channel #education lol

[@PatrickLino]

"The more you know..." 🤣

[@FaigMir]

I can tell you why you have this rudder walking elementary. This is because of the half-ring through which the rod passes. it does not give rigidity as a full-fledged ring if you have a familiar turner. let him make you a full-fledged ring with a hole for cables and you will feel how your steering column will become stone look at the rings at Pinarello, pay attention they are not lumpy because engineers worked there and not idiots, and others picked up, ask to make a ring that will drop just below the steering tube bearing on the upper side even in the frame SEKA so done smart guys made it. all other types of rings or half rings through which the cables pass this mess

[@PatrickLino]

This issue has long been resolved, from both the brand directly and my own investigation in a more recent video. Thanks for chiming in 👍🏾

[@nimamoini6469]

Mate, I do enjoy your content. But, actually writing from Iraq (where I work in mosul amongst other places for example), I can tell you: by far you are more likely to get shot at the McDonald's in the US than at the kabab shop in Iraq. Sounds more Shitcago to me than Shitraq bro 😉

[@PatrickLino]

Have you lived in Chicago before?

[@nimamoini6469]

@@PatrickLino Nop. But not sure it's relevant here. You referred to Iraq as a shit hole in terms of violence. Yet, numbers of homicides and so on in the US are far to envy any other country. Plus, whatever shit happened in Iraq came all the way from the US. Anyway, I'll appreciate if you stick to cycling and avoid disrespectful comments on others country.

[@PatrickLino]

@@nimamoini6469 Chi-raq is a term people here in Chicago use, but not myself. I think it's very offensive to everyone involved. If you listened to what I actually was saying you would have understood that. Good luck out there, this cycling channel may not be for you.

[@1971lemond]

What’s the reliability on the frame?

[@1971lemond]

What BB do you use?

[@PatrickLino]

Wheels MFG