Shipchat: Aelahl class (STO)

[@vallettapetracyneran8587]

I consider this the Romulans learning from mistake in the D'Deridex and the Mogai. They really needed a medium size vessel cruiser to make a well rounded fleet.

[@hughtonne1775]

Looks like the White Star from Bablyon 5, used by the Rangers for peacekeeping missions

[@wingzero3069]

I was thinking the same thing.

[@stephanbateman5410]

same here

[@alanmike6883]

Me too

[@norcalsox]

Yep, thought the same thing

[@neganrex5693]

If I was a Starfleet caption and ran into a White Star the first thing to come to mind would be what new class of ship does the Romulans have now.

[@occultatumquaestio5226]

The Aelahl class is definitely one of the better STO Romulan warbirds. Combining the legacy of Romulus's past, with the constraints of the Romulan Republic's present, to create a vessel capable of helping the Romulan people continue into the future. This "budget D'deridex" does show that while the Romulans may be down, they are most definitely not out. Also, it would be cool to get the Ker'chan in STO given how many Scimitar variants there are.

[@venomgeekmedia9886]

Yeah there are a lot of scimitars one day the kerchan hopefully gets the acknowledgement it deserves like the titan did.

[@barrybend7189]

The Romulan Republic even have a D'deredex refit that strips a lot of mass from the design.

[@TheEventHorizon909]

@@venomgeekmedia9886 kerchan my beloved

[@tullyDT]

Great video, thanks for fulfilling my request. As far as the STO ships go this is my favourite as it has a real sense of lineage and purpose to the design

[@venomgeekmedia9886]

yeah it was a welcome suprise.

[@chrisortega7521]

This reminds me a bit of the Whitestar from Babylon 5, with a bit of Andorian Kumari-class in it.

[@hansebee]

and a sprinkle of Galaxy Quest's Protector hehe

[@MagnanimousEntropy]

I love the Aelahl class. It reminds me very much of the White Star from Babylon 5.

[@shanenolan8252]

Vikings. Blood eagle. Season one to four .. she reminds me of tne white star from Babylon 5 .

[@fooo2241]

My cat is named D'deridex. I think I've found a good channel 😁 Really enjoying the Dominion War series, and a lot of the other stuff. Keep up the great work!!

[@GRIGGINS1]

I just love that ship design. Along with the Vastam Battlecruiser.

[@jamesabernethy7896]

Firstly... you can never watch 'TOO much Vikings.' I don't play STO but I catch up on a few of the designs from it from channels I follow. It's a beautiful-looking ship and has that obvious Romulan aesthetic. What I like about the double hull design is how it reminds me of the older Vulcan ships with the Warp loop. I also love how the Klingon and Romulan ship designs have diverged but there is still that shared lineage. Your videos with Drachinfel were brilliant. Great collaboration from two channels I have been subscribed to for ages.

[@venomgeekmedia9886]

Glad you enjoyed

[@donariadtn]

I stumbled onto your channel through Drachinifel's collab a little bit ago. I love that you're covering STO vessels! I spent an embarrassing amount of both time and money on that back in the day. I look forward to seeing (someday, hopefully) a piece on the Avenger or the Presidio! I wrote a bit too much way back when.

[@venomgeekmedia9886]

Welcome aboard

[@mustlovedragons8047]

Welcome!

[@TheEventHorizon909]

One on the Odyssey and it’s many variants and variants of variants (Lexington my beloved)

[@lanebowles8170]

Good video, I like the general ideas of the ship and the reasons why it is the way it is due to its environment.

[@LARGO125]

I like it. It wouldn't have the mind boggling physical intimidation of the D'deridex, but to me it looks far more predatory. As a ship captain, if I saw a D'deridex decloak in front of me, I know I would have the edge in agility, to help evade fire till I could warp out and out run the big bird. With this new warbird? I'd be far less certain. It certainly deserves the moniker "warbird".

[@jacobktan]

It's been years since I've played STO. I always mean to go back but I find the idea pretty daunting. Also I have trouble not spending money when I play. I really like premium ships.

[@dragonhound3706]

That's a pretty fair statement but you can get through the whole game no expense

[@stevenewman1393]

🖖😎👍Very cool and very nicely well done and very well informatively explained and executed in every detail and every way shape and form provided on this subject matter and format on the design of the Aelahl class and it's purpose and duties and on its fire power and so forth indeed, And I myself own 2 of these from Eaglemoss.

[@madrabbit9007]

I tend to hate a lot of the ships that have come out of STO as most have little or no logic behind them but this one is spot on! With a shattered empire, it would make sense that all those super sized warbirds with be hard to build, man, and maintain. This is a much leaner ship but one with sharp talons and very much a match for any Federation or Klingon counterparts. Like the Cardasians, defense focused ships make sense as they are both broken governments with expansion not even a glimmer in their minds. Right now they're just trying to hold what they have.

[@laisphinto6372]

yeah besides the og star trek ships the STO are mostly garbage and only rarely make a decent looking ship.

[@richjordan6461]

Curious where you get the "shattered empire" bit. I agree actually but I just don't know that much about the STO timeline. My reference point is basically the Shinzon coup followed by the ST novels, and their Typhon Pact. I assume there is no Typhon Pact in STO?

[@madrabbit9007]

@@richjordan6461 i ignore all STO lore as little more than fan fic. The Cardasians were crushed during the Dominion war and the Romulans lost their home world. It will take generations for the Romulans to rebuild to their pre supernova status.

[@laughingalex7563]

Most egregious example of ships the romulan republic have little reason to maintain; the fricken miracle worker warbirds. Things make even the d’deredix and scimitar class ships look small.

[@michaelkeha]

​@@madrabbit9007it really wouldn't and that's the brain dead logic that helped justify nutrek keep in mind the Romulans are a star empire as in they have more than two built up worlds the loss of their twin homeworlds wouldn't be as crippling as you think they would do what countless other civilizations in our own history would do when their home city fell move to the next most populace one and keep going

[@angelsandautobots]

A lot of the warbirds from STO were designed by the Romulan Republic. Not the Star Empire. A decided lack of available resources and funding resulted in a more stripped down and no nonsense ship design.

[@barrybend7189]

reminds me of the white star from babylon 5.

[@geoffharris724]

Damn, you beat me to be first to say that, lol.

[@ycplum7062]

Setting aside ship classes, it sounds like this is a defensive rapid reaction force. I believe both the Chinese and the late Romans had a rapid reaction cavalry force that would rush to a wall section (or fort for the Romans) when the Mongols/barbarians raided. Both empires wer in decline and could not man thier borders in the traditional way with large armies.. Instead, tehy had a wall or fort outpost that slowed the raiders (sometimes invaders) until a reaction force could be rushed in to repel or hold back the Mongols/barbarians. Larger units (usually infantry, and tehrefore slower), which took longer to mobilize, could be sent in if needed.

[@venomgeekmedia9886]

Good comparison we don't really have a parallel to the Mongols in trek aside from 22nd century klingons.

[@dragonhound3706]

I wish the Ker'chan was in Sto

[@venomgeekmedia9886]

As do i

[@mikealpha2611]

I Like the "Light Warbird Battlecruiser" classification. I see it as a twin name, to the Romulans it is a "Light Warbird" but being the Republic they need a name for the Alliance to quantify it and is "Battlecruiser". I like the ship design its a it is somewhat of a budget D'deridex but it is more an evolution then just cutting some bits off to make it cheaper.

[@alexhurlbut]

Warbird for STO mean it's a romulan ship powered by a singularity core (lower power levels but get singularity powers) and use Romulan Battlecloak, so when you put that aside you get "Light Battlecruiser". In STO Battlecruiser mean a cruiser that can mount cannons, give up a little hull durability for a slightly better turning rate.

[@mikealpha2611]

@@alexhurlbut I know what it means in STO I was referring to in universe not in marketing.

[@corrinestenman5683]

It's been a couple of years since I've played STO, but the Aehlahl is a favorite of mine: firepower for days, a turning radius of a ship half It's size, and a nasty bag of tricks to unleash. Plus, it's the single best-looking original ship in the whole game!

[@jasonmadden9732]

The Kerchan did survive the destruction of Romulus.

[@TheEventHorizon909]

The ships did just not the facilities to build them so there are a limited amount of them thus not being used. Also discussed is the torpedo issues which make them impractical to use.

[@jaybonkersbonkers3613]

The valdor is still in my opinion the best looking ship in science fiction.

[@davidreeves4556]

You know what would be interesting to see? How about a heavy refit D'deriedex? In the same mold as what happened to the constitution class?

[@freelancenerd4804]

Thanks!

[@venomgeekmedia9886]

im glad you enjoyed it :)

[@alexanderleach3365]

Awesome cruiser video.

[@lynngreen7978]

Are those pods standard disruptors? Or artillery like the Klingon Heavy Disruptor/Siege Guns or the Fed Lance Phaser. Given Romulan preference for long range combat, it would make sense. I also assume that it can still carry some escorts.

[@shanenolan8252]

Seems logical lynn ( both ) live the valdore type

[@warwolf88]

it's a very sleek design it's one of my favorites 😊

[@alanfisher3848]

The silhouette reminds me of a Whitestar.

[@terranempire2]

Having the Borg artifact on hand certainly helps.

[@spudz7405]

Great video I'm going to have to look at this ship ig too see if I want to fly it

[@macross.shaeffer3197]

Looks like a good response to the federation sovereign class

[@ozelhassan8576]

This is funny as every time you mentioned Aelahl it sounds the same as my Sister’s name.

[@bermanmo6237]

Sort of like the US Navy's Alaska battlecruiser from World War 2. It was sort of like in between a heavy cruiser and a light battlecruiser. It was originally designed to hunt the rumored super cruiser of the Japanese Navy. When they turned out to be a rumor, they were used as a heavy escort for the carrier take force due to their speed and their firepower.

[@Shutterbug5269]

I admit as far as STO is concerned, my preference is the Jhu'ael class escort carrier warbird. Moderately well armed and turns like a dream.

[@venomgeekmedia9886]

Interesting. I'm not that well versed in STO ships

[@lesmoor001]

an incredibly detailed analyst

[@freelancenerd4804]

Thought u were on vacation. Great breakdown

[@venomgeekmedia9886]

What made you think that?

[@freelancenerd4804]

@@venomgeekmedia9886 just seemed like a long time since we got a ship breakdown. Just being a jerk. Love ur breakdowns.

[@avg2959]

Looks like a Whitestar from B5 to me

[@johnracicot706]

In sto the weapon pods in the inside of the wings fire torpedoes rather then disruptors

[@AvroBellow]

Babylon 5 called and they want their White Star back.

[@richjordan6461]

Haha...great video...but I don't think the DDeridex warp cores were *smashed* into the Aelahl so much as *integrated* and *fine-tuned*

[@Flarecobra]

Be interesting to see your thoughts on some of the Alliance ships in STO... some of them are...weird looking to say the least.

[@joshpetersen5968]

After watching this, I'm kind of curious of your take on the Ar'kif class tactical warbird, which happens to be my personal favorite of the STO Romulan designs.

[@venomgeekmedia9886]

Pretty solid design. But not very revolutionary

[@GuardianSage]

Darn you Romulans. Why do you keep making so many great designs? There are now three vying for the number one spot for me. The D'Deredex, the Aelahl, and the Daeinos with several others not far behind.

[@TheBamaChad-W4CHD]

It has really surprised me how careful they are about adding ships to on screen Canon. It would be just dumb to add just whatever ships of course. Your example of the Harkonen Warbird is proof of that. I'm beyond thrilled about the Odyssey making it finally! It's hilarious to think of some of the ships from STO could be Canon. Also hilarious that the Schimitar was a real live production model and not thought up by some young inexperienced game dev lol

[@Relav1364]

For some reason, I always called it "Ale-Hall", I guess I was drinking. I love it though, the design follows Romulan standards, but she's sleek and deadly. I always figured the Rommies would eventually push for BC's after the dominion war to keep up with Defiant and what not.

[@Eric_Von_Yesselstyn]

When a Negh'var or Vor'cha and D'deridex have a little baby... 🤣

[@177SCmaro]

I like it, although I think it needs a bit of a point or stretch to produce a "tail" to balance the elongated "nose". It looks a bit cutoff from the stern.

[@kronos48221]

My next sto rep ship, gonna borg it out lol

[@ellebleisch6853]

In terms of looks I give it a slightly better score then some others like the white star but it's not the top of my list... I would add ablative armor to fix what I don't like...

[@Cauin450]

Where Talari/Chescacha design bureaus on holiday from Romulus when Hobus kicked off?

[@theraptorstalon7589]

Personally, I tend to prefer the Rahhae class recon warbird or the Faeht class intel warbird, but I can understand why you like this ship. Also, I will admit that I'm biased because I can run cannon builds on them, sooooo.

[@seimen4348]

This looks at least much better than the romulan ships at the end of picard s1.

[@ServantOfOdin]

"[..]not really able to poke many holes in it." Well to be fair, it already has some massive holes to begin with.......

[@venomgeekmedia9886]

I mean. So do most romulan ships.

[@ServantOfOdin]

@@venomgeekmedia9886 True. Befitting of their attitude... Always hol(e)ier than thou.... erm.. I see myself out now...........

[@KevinLarson]

That makes me think of the Whitestar from B5

[@chrismills2439]

it is one of the better looking warbirds. that and the one that is dark in color made for the remens in mind, its name I forget but it starts with H...

[@shanenolan8252]

Great request tully

[@nopenope5812]

I love your vids!

[@zimzam4195]

You've mentioned that these artificial singularities cannot be deactivated (thus re-used). What happens, therefore, when a Romulan ship equipped with this kind of power source is destroyed in battle? Does the singularity module float around in a debris field? Can it be destroyed? If so, what happens then?

[@venomgeekmedia9886]

It implodes. You don't want to be close when that happens

[@weldonwin]

I have just been trying to picture taking the singularity core out of a D'Deridex, transferring it to another ship and connecting it in, all while its still running and concluded it would be probably the single most terrifying thing ever. Singularity cores are terrifying enough, let alone moving one while its active

[@zimzam4195]

Hmmm... what sort or radius are we talking about? This could be a major tactical problem when fighting the Romulans, perhaps, becuase if they get close enough you might fear destroying their ships for this reason?

[@paulbeaney4901]

I work with a guy called Tully. I asked him if he was the Tully from the start of the video. He called me sad and told me to go away 🤣🤣🤣

[@grantyocom]

“Smack ‘‘em in the Aelahl.”

[@MH-jt3lx]

With that much power they should have the most powerful shields of any class ship. One would think.

[@carolheward6479]

Looks like a whitestar in some images

[@Lowlander-ci7is]

Looks like the White Star from Babylon 5..

[@jhallam2011]

I like her!

[@maxpayne930]

This profs that Romulans still have Mojo🖖👌

[@thehillbillygamer2183]

It don't make no sense that yeah Romulus was destroyed but it's the star empire Romulus like the federation like the Klingon empire has other worlds the capital would just be moved to the biggest colony world

[@mosser-wm3dx]

With how the romulan language is, my first ges would be "eh-lawl".

[@mustlovedragons8047]

14:30 People in the 25th century be like: _I'm getting real tired of living through all these historical events._ _People in the 21st century:_ I feel you bro.

[@venomgeekmedia9886]

May you live in interesting times....

[@mustlovedragons8047]

@@venomgeekmedia9886 Ancient Klingon curse. :) PS Thanks for the heart!

[@Enkarashaddam]

I'm a Valdore man myself

[@bigbrain4117]

Feel like you where throwing some shade at the Ha'apax at 2:15 there... How dare you

[@venomgeekmedia9886]

I was...

[@Not-Ap]

That is unnecessary behemoth that doesn't need to exist. The republic can't even provide basic housing, medical supplies, and food to it's far flung member colonies. This got no business flying that resource drain around. The Star Empire next door on the other hand should have enough to utilize them but for some reason they choose to stick with Mogai's, Norexcan's, and D'Derderix's.

[@bigbrain4117]

@@venomgeekmedia9886 >=(

[@laisphinto6372]

yeah that trash looks like garbage,but in terms of STO ships its on the low end there are far more idiotic designs in STO

[@bigbrain4117]

@@Not-Ap Seems more like an issue with the organization, which I agree, I like the ship itself, not the people who built it

[@thanqualthehighseer]

It reminds me of a Babylon 5 Whitestar

[@seansteinbacher6449]

I don't think the romulan Republic is as scattered as you say it is in the game they operate large ships like the ddridex and even a romulan version of the scimitar as their flag ship I believe the romulan Republic got aid by their alies in the federation and klingon empire to rebuild their infrastructure

[@merafirewing6591]

Is it me, or are Romulan females that look tomboyish seem very attractive?

[@jacobcash7848]

I agree

[@ebenezer1690]

Andorian Kumari-class. Just add the wing/hood or shell if you will on top and push the two outer nacelles, to the edges, maybe?

[@cmdrtianyilin8107]

I have this in the game and what I like about this ship is... it looks fantastic in Section 31 Vanity Shield. What I don't like about this ship is... it has a single Lieutenant Intel science seat, which, DPS wise is rubbish, and the trait is very niche. I might be boring who plays meta, trying to chase DPS where my Tzenkethi ship uses Black Alert, which is not screen accurate, but this ship looks very good but combat-wise very, very bad. I mean, really bad. I would rather use a ship with 5 tactical consoles, rather than this ship with 3 tac and 5 engineering consoles.

[@esecallum]

Search for New Star Trek 2022 Leaked Trailer! Romulan War for kerchan

[@whitewolf3051]

Looks like cross between TNG warbird and the one from Nemesis. Prefer the Nemesis one.

[@thehillbillygamer2183]

What about alpha centauri in the 21st century now Starfleet should have been over to build up alpha centauri it should be a really big powerful system

[@glennlaroche1524]

For me, it looks a little TOO much like the White Star from B5, jus' sayin'.......

[@nagash303]

Blowing up Romulus and Vulcan was no fan service. Please don't bore me with JJ-Trek. Good thing I didn't watch it at cinema, it would've been first movie i left.

[@thehillbillygamer2183]

Like if Earth's solar system was destroyed then the capital of the federation will probably be moved to Vulcan or indoor or the telluride planet you know one of the other or maybe beta said

[@paulbeaney4901]

Venom geek....."this is a very sensible design" Also venom geek "this leaves the core partially exposed" So the big nasty black hole core, that is so unstable it can't be left unattended. This thing that if you lose containment suddenly, through damage, can eat your ship from the inside out IS EXPOSED TO DIRECT WEAPONS FIRE. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. Note to self "don't let vemom design your secret death cruiser". Shit I've said to much, nothing here just go about your business lol.

[@aloyalcatholic5785]

Looks like the White Star from Babylon 5

[@Phil-D83]

They need to scrap the whole hobus nova. Makes no sense and just ruins things

[@paulrasmussen8953]

Anything invovled with JJ is a mess. For me the last time we saw trek was nemesis timelinelines

[@venomgeekmedia9886]

It does have a few too similarities to praxis. That being said it's the only way to stop a Romulan/Federation war in the late 24th century

[@paulrasmussen8953]

@@venomgeekmedia9886 but pracis makes more sense. Moon in system and dilithium ontop of that. Hobus makes no sense much less the fact that the third largest fleet cannot evac the planets adds to it. I credit STO for trying to fix this problem but its another JJ mystery box crap.

[@Phil-D83]

@@venomgeekmedia9886 romulan-federation relations were good after the st nemesis incident (aweful movie). They could and should have tried harder

[@alanmike6883]

It did always surprise me why the Romulans didn't diversify their fleet like the federation did. The big ddex seamed to be the backbone of their fleet and as impressive as it was, it did have flaws and couldnt fit every situation

[@venomgeekmedia9886]

They couldn't field the same numbers as starfleet or the klingons so they needed ships that were more well rounded and capable of winning against multiple enemies.

[@alanmike6883]

@@venomgeekmedia9886 Seems to me in no reality they had a chance against the federation. Even united earth

[@richard1701able]

I was expecting this design to be an early to mid 24th century design. Maybe peaking around the time of the Kithomer Massacre. Despite your excellent explanation it just looks out of place in the time period it's in.

[@venomgeekmedia9886]

Really? In terms of ships from that era think Vmelak or Horo class warbird.

[@richard1701able]

​@@venomgeekmedia9886 You're not wrong. Thank you, V'melak and Horo were the classes I was thinking of but couldn't remember their names. Let me express an idea for you sir. This thought is not fully fleshed out. It We know in Starfleet designs there are often (What's the word) little and large (That'll have to do) takes on a design concept. Think of the Constitution - Miranda, Galaxy-Nebula, or the Ambassador - I've forgotten the name, please tell me. I think the same can be said for the Romulans. The Raptor is a "Mini" D'Deridex, I agree with you on that. So why can't the Horo or Keras class warbirds be considered downed scaled version of the V'melak? I'm not sure they fit perfectly tho. It's just a thought. The point that you asked me about tho: In my eyes the Aelahl Class Warbird looks like the V'melak but lighter. Disregarding any length (Etc.) statistics. The Aelahl seems to follow typical design aesthetics for the early-mid 24th century, but where as the Horo or Keras are blocky and square, the Aelahl is rounded. I hope that makes sense. I need another coffee. Thanks for another great video.

[@FrakkinGaiusBaltar]

I don't think the Aelahl could be considered a true successor of the D'deridex. That honour should go to the Ha'apax warbird, which probably was produced in lower numbers than the D'deridex but accomplished the same task of being the centerpoint and the speartip of the Romulan fleet.

[@venomgeekmedia9886]

I have... strong feelings on the Ha'apax

[@FrakkinGaiusBaltar]

@@venomgeekmedia9886 you may not like it, but the Ha'apax is what peak warbird looks like

[@laughingalex7563]

Im always thinking the scimitar is in sto the successor to the d’deredix. Or actually the Mogai. The core reasoning for the two being different; The scimitar became a more commonly designed capital ship after its debute during nemesis. The republic simply inhereted a lot of scimitars from captains and admirals leaving the increasingly corrupt empire due to Sela’s and Hakeeve’s increasingly traitorous actions to the romulan people. The R.R.S. Lleiset in fact, is. Tulwar-class dreadnaught, which is effectively a trimmed down refit scimitar with the thalaron weapon removed. The Mogai was designed by the romulan empire in response to the dominion war and weaknesses exposed by the slow, cumbersome d’deredix, which was to large and generally incapable of keeping up with the quick nature of the war. It was designed for war while maintaining the d’deredix versatility. I want to like the Aelahl, but its seating in-game is much to be desired. As a result i tend to use other romulan ships. Its balance of durability and agility is something i favor in ships, often resulting in me flying varying forma of destroyers and lighter battlecruisers, and the Miranda and its now very numerous varients(4 tier six miranda varients to choose from lol). Just the Aelahl has no specialization seating to really take advantage of. If it had say, full intel specialization or full commander specialization i’d fly it.

[@Another64driver]

I loved the look of this ship, but in game its performance is just... blah.

[@artymixon5316]

I like it but it looks way too close to a whitestar to take it as a romulan ship

[@dot2562]

Chip shat

[@jasonwhite7905]

Isn't the White Star supposed to have a blue/cyan paint job? Oh, wait, this isn't Babylon 5... how did I make that mistake?

[@chrismills2439]

the D'deridex was always overrrated and it was an overuse of resources

[@jaredcolon4535]

The first ship, the aehleh looks like a romulan version of a Babylon 5 white star!! Maybe the designer is a B5 fan because there's a lot of white star DNA there @Venomgeekmedia98 bro that ship is a Romulan white star even looking at it at every different angle it's a freaking white star