Venti - DPS Build vs Elemental Mastery Build - Genshin Impact

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@NathanHieu
@NathanHieu 2 жыл бұрын
Another thing to note is that this Venti is lvl 80, whereas transformative reactions scale with levels. So EM build would be even better if he were lvl 90.
@tripleog581
@tripleog581 2 жыл бұрын
And it's a 5 star weapon vs a 4 star imagine if this was vs elegy
@buffjesus9414
@buffjesus9414 2 жыл бұрын
@@tripleog581 i mean doesnt the stringless give more em then the elegy at r1?
@tripleog581
@tripleog581 2 жыл бұрын
@@buffjesus9414 bro that's 5 more EM that's gonna be very unnoticeable bt what is gonna be very noticeable is the difference in base attack base attack is way more important then over all attack and elegy gives EM to the party member as well so the reactions you will get from them become stronger as well making elegy at r1 have more EM since it gives it to your party as well contributing to itself for the swirls
@demoncloud6147
@demoncloud6147 2 жыл бұрын
My Venti rocking 575 EM with 71/119 Crits, kinda hybrid EM-subDPS build
@tripleog581
@tripleog581 2 жыл бұрын
@@demoncloud6147 that sounds like.a nice build bro
@Zerocyxone9
@Zerocyxone9 2 жыл бұрын
Here’s a fact for everyone to understand esp if you will use venti in abyss: EM venti = when you need to burst down crowds DPS venti = when you need to burst down bosses or heavier enemies. (Lectors) Either way, he is godly. Heavy CC, energy refund plus unlimited burst.
@yukumoblood6292
@yukumoblood6292 2 жыл бұрын
Question, is em build venti can benefit destroy lectors shield (3 different element on it) with swirl2 or dps build took a point?
@_sanygame_921
@_sanygame_921 2 жыл бұрын
tbh I wouldn't even bother about crit build because it's harder to do and deals just a little more damage and only at bosses
@SmartyPoohBear
@SmartyPoohBear 2 жыл бұрын
Crit could also hold fav bow if you need venti to give more er to the team.
@hertz816
@hertz816 2 жыл бұрын
@@SmartyPoohBear at that point you might as well just build em with crit in substats lol, you're not gonna do any damage with fav bow
@SmartyPoohBear
@SmartyPoohBear 2 жыл бұрын
@@hertz816 True, but easier said than done to get a good amount of crit substats. Plus still gotta pay attention to er substats.
@theivster1648
@theivster1648 2 жыл бұрын
This is why I love Venti so much, from the moment I started Genshin. I really want Venti in my team
@kimunchs
@kimunchs 2 жыл бұрын
his banner is in 2 days i can't wait to pull for him 😭
@dazed6924
@dazed6924 2 жыл бұрын
@@kimunchs Same here
@smugqing5164
@smugqing5164 2 жыл бұрын
Will you pull for him?
@kimunchs
@kimunchs 2 жыл бұрын
@@smugqing5164 i pulled for him and got him!!
@smugqing5164
@smugqing5164 2 жыл бұрын
@@kimunchs OMG SAME
@This_is_weird
@This_is_weird 2 жыл бұрын
In my personal opinion, to max dps venti build, you’d wanna use characters like Bennett or mona to maximise his true damage. Because using Baal and Kokomi results in buffing electro/hydro infused swirl, which is more lenient towards his em build. Of course your build should just depend on what you like using him for more, or what team characters you’d prefer to play with him. Personally, since I don’t really have characters to constantly provide elemental swirl reactions, I build him as dps and my main focus would be on his skill, instead of his burst, and he’s actually really good :D Hell, I’ve even seen shotgun venti and it’s very intimidating, just build him however u wanna play him lol, have fun Edit: I have progressed and I’m almost done tripple crowning my venti, and can confirm I do much more with dps build than em build considering my circumstances and what buffs I can get. But uhhh yeah I actually use him more as a solo physical dps for fun now and it works really well actually aha Edit again: 200k venti HELL YEAH
@princesshamburglar9659
@princesshamburglar9659 2 жыл бұрын
Raiden has %dmg increase on Burst, which increases Venti's direct dmg rather than the Swirl dmg, so tbh its good with Mona-Benny
@This_is_weird
@This_is_weird 2 жыл бұрын
@@princesshamburglar9659 ohhh really, I actually didn’t know that, that’s cool.
@gabrielabatista6016
@gabrielabatista6016 2 жыл бұрын
Oh, great. I use Venti with Kokomi, Albedo and Hu Tao, and I was trying to get more EM for him, this just confirms for me that I need to get more.
@luaox8422
@luaox8422 2 жыл бұрын
tbh the point of the EM build is to directly buff reactions anyway whereas DPS build are sole damage
@electrobrotm217
@electrobrotm217 2 жыл бұрын
EM build could've done more but electro-charged is bugged atm and procs less often, which means some swirls will only be with hydro.
@KiryuSeiran
@KiryuSeiran 2 жыл бұрын
I would like to point out that the infusions are getting hydro mostly, I think the crit got cryo on the third but I think is the lighting, Hydro on infusion trigger single swirls while the other elements trigger double swirls that make the EM damage higher on multitarget. That is msotly the reason why on anemo swirlds composition, most guides tell you to prioritize cryo/pyro or electro > hydro (most of times hydro is casted after anemo) That is why EM does more in multi scenarios while crit does more on singles
@Somehow999
@Somehow999 2 жыл бұрын
Also for some reason he didnt use the 4pc VV on Crit build. On EM he goes VV smhw. So this vid is pointless.
@bloomiinqfruits4453
@bloomiinqfruits4453 2 жыл бұрын
@@Somehow999 4pc vv isnt for a dps build-
@Somehow999
@Somehow999 2 жыл бұрын
@@bloomiinqfruits4453 If you're using something else than 4pc VV on an Anemo Unit except Xiao you're delusional
@bloomiinqfruits4453
@bloomiinqfruits4453 2 жыл бұрын
@@Somehow999 The reason you dont want to use 4pc VV on Xiao is bc he is a dps, so the 4pc effect is useless dps wise since he isnt used for swirling, he is used for actual dmg. Venti here is a dps, so his main dmg wont be swirling, but will be anemo dmg like Xiao. Thats why they dont use the 4pc VV for the dps build. P.S; 4pc VV effect : Increases Swirl DMG by 60%. Decreases opponent’s Elemental RES to the element infused by 40% for 10 sec
@Somehow999
@Somehow999 2 жыл бұрын
@@bloomiinqfruits4453 yes and as you can see in the video, he's swirling and infusing the entire time in the video. It sums up.
@ray-ee5pb
@ray-ee5pb 2 жыл бұрын
This is a bit of an unfair comparison. It skews in favor of EM venti for two main reasons: 1. Why not use his skill at all? It deals a good chunk of damage. Even at just level 6, the damage isn’t negligible. And who doesn’t use the classic e->q combo? 2. Why not 4p VV on the crit build? Even on a crit build, Venti still wants 4p VV for that sweet sweet swirl damage bonus and elemental res shred. His infusion does elemental damage, and he swirls a lot, so regardless of EM or crit build he always wants 4p VV. That small atk bonus will never beat out swirl damage and res shred. Never. And this isn’t in favor of EM venti, but still noteworthy imho: 3. Only level 80? Swirl scales off of level and EM, so you should have him at level 90. It’s understandable if you just don’t have the resources, though.
@KazuhaMain
@KazuhaMain Жыл бұрын
Late comment but imo em venti's e would swirl the elements as well, so the difference wouldnt be much anyways.
@ray-ee5pb
@ray-ee5pb Жыл бұрын
@@KazuhaMain Yes, his skill could also trigger swirl. But unless you’re getting 20k swirls, the damage won’t be equal.
@marrymeyaemiko4106
@marrymeyaemiko4106 7 ай бұрын
@@KazuhaMainthe dmg wouldnt be near the same tho
@LazuIine
@LazuIine 2 жыл бұрын
Basically prioritize EM and if you get crit substats then good for you.
@orakatokansek
@orakatokansek 2 жыл бұрын
if on venti, then EM > ER (190) > CRate.
@ryanryan4223
@ryanryan4223 2 жыл бұрын
EM and atk atk% because your swirl scales on atk
@ICNHH
@ICNHH 2 жыл бұрын
@@ryanryan4223 doesnt swirl scale on em tho
@NagantHunt
@NagantHunt 2 жыл бұрын
@@ICNHH yeah hes prob thinking just the base anemo dmg
@deibu_1361
@deibu_1361 2 жыл бұрын
@@ryanryan4223 Pretty sure Swirl scales off EM and Level.
@owen_1.3
@owen_1.3 2 жыл бұрын
My Venti build is more hybrid of EM and DPS, since I feel he can be really useful as a mix. 45/115 for crit and 605 EM and he's doing great, I highly recommend a mix build for anyone wanting to use him as a DPS/Support (note: mine is lvl90 which makes EM more useful than if u were running him at lv80)
@yrnreef8513
@yrnreef8513 2 жыл бұрын
BRO THANK U SO MUCH I NEEDED THIS
@yrnreef8513
@yrnreef8513 2 жыл бұрын
what main stats do u use on ur artifacts btw ?
@owen_1.3
@owen_1.3 2 жыл бұрын
@@yrnreef8513 I use attack% sands, and then EM goblet and circlet. Then I run stringless as weapon for more EM
@owen_1.3
@owen_1.3 2 жыл бұрын
@@yrnreef8513 np :)
@oreo8137
@oreo8137 2 жыл бұрын
If you don't mind, what artifacts do you use for Hybrid Venti? Thanks in advance! 💚
@joelance5672
@joelance5672 2 жыл бұрын
EM venti is the way to go for F2Ps, super easy to build. If you whale on Venti and get his C2, C4, and C6, he becomes a better DPS as he debuffs enemies anemo RES ridiculously. At C6, his DPS build is more potent than EM, especially if you give him the polar star or skyward harp, but he also makes a good support/carry for Xiao when you have his constellations since he just buffs anemo damage so well. And in theory, building hybrid Venti when you have his C6 makes him a very powerful DPS since he'll simultaneously be doing big CRIT Anemo damage, SWIRL damage, and Elemental Infusion damage. Granted, you'll probably want people like C2 Kazuha, C6 Diona, and/or a separate Elegy bow user to raise EM outside of Venti's artifacts.
@lepineapple6776
@lepineapple6776 3 ай бұрын
I’m kinda late, but should I use crit venti if I have skyward harp?
@Lennyxx
@Lennyxx 2 ай бұрын
@@lepineapple6776 i use that weapon and just did a hybrid build so like em and crit
@kuroha14
@kuroha14 2 жыл бұрын
Conclusion: Give your crit VV pieces to Venti and save your EM ones for Kazuha
@youcool6185
@youcool6185 2 жыл бұрын
If you think you're about to get a build with 67/ 219 crit on Venti, and to use food in abyss, do that! XD Can't you see the comparison isn't even close to be valid ? And the atk build isn't even 4 VV, so on one side he appiles the res shred, and not on the other side. Wanna compare carrots with apples?
@WandererAtNight
@WandererAtNight 2 жыл бұрын
Venti is one of the most cost effective and flexible units in the game. Build him however you want :D Though I will say that DPS venti is a lot more fun and you get to make use of the high damage E skill
@triplegks
@triplegks 2 жыл бұрын
So the conclusion is: Crit build: green big dmg, other colors small dmg. Em build: green small dmg, other colors big dmg.
@jackalexanderalvino3104
@jackalexanderalvino3104 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty much like it
@walterboom4043
@walterboom4043 2 жыл бұрын
I have a rusty bow and a favonium bow, which one should I use in a venti dps
@walterboom4043
@walterboom4043 2 жыл бұрын
On one side I have more base damage, on the other I have more energy recharge because of critical and passive
@foreverconfusedandkindacute
@foreverconfusedandkindacute 2 жыл бұрын
Thank u for explaining in razor language😔👍
@2-laojustinekarl231
@2-laojustinekarl231 2 жыл бұрын
After the em and transformative reactions got buff, it's more safe to assume that em build on him is much better and much less of a hassle when it comes to equipping artifacts
@louloudaki_
@louloudaki_ 2 жыл бұрын
idk why but i find it so much more satisfying to see a bunch of elemental reactions on top of each other going crazy than seeing a couple big numbers. they’re both cool but i have an electro charged team with physical fischl dps so i just like seeing many numbers. this is why anemo is my favorite element it forces everything to react. my aether is lvl 90
@challengert9353
@challengert9353 2 жыл бұрын
The reason that venti EM build is so strong is because of how Swirl works: -Transformative Reaction such as Swirl also scale with your character's Lvls -Swirl if hits 2 or more enemy deal 2 instances of swirl meaning he can deal double the dmg Also venti Burst can only suck enemy if his lvls is falls under the threshold(Ex: Venti 80- CinCin Mage 100) So ... *MAX YOUR VENTI ASAP IF YOU HAVE HIM*
@no5428
@no5428 5 ай бұрын
I've been two years dealing little damage like a dumbass just because of not paying attention to the game. Thanks so much.
@uddiptojana7884
@uddiptojana7884 2 жыл бұрын
One thing I would like to add here is that even against multiple enemeies what build you want to go depends on what are the other reactions that can be triggered with your party members elements. The EM build while shine in transformative reaction comps because all transformative reactions deal AoE damage (swirl, overload, electrocharged, superconduct and notice how the latter 3 are electro reactions). In this video the electro-charged and swirl is on display which heavily favours EM build against hordes of enemies.
@jbc8220
@jbc8220 2 жыл бұрын
I think both are equally good. It all depends on what team are you gonna put him.
@pfortunato78
@pfortunato78 2 жыл бұрын
Depends even more on the gear you have. Most players probably have a stringless lying around. Most do not have a 5-star bow lying around.
@jbc8220
@jbc8220 2 жыл бұрын
@@pfortunato78 you can still dps with stringless. With the right artifacts
@yukumoblood6292
@yukumoblood6292 2 жыл бұрын
If I put her on my Xiao team, it's em build still good for it?
@yukumoblood6292
@yukumoblood6292 2 жыл бұрын
I've stringless r2, and unexpected good Vivi artifact without em (mostly atk/crt/cdm with cdm circlet, except 1 sands er stat copium)
@jbc8220
@jbc8220 2 жыл бұрын
@@yukumoblood6292 I think its better to sub dps your venti, since xiao doesnt do elemental reactions.
@potat-png
@potat-png 2 жыл бұрын
What people don't mention is that for an EM Venti the best set is VV but to get EM main stats on the circlet and sands with even decent substats in that domain is really very hard. I have all the anemo characters in the game so I had to grind it a lot and I still don't have even one decent EM piece from that domain even after an entire year of farming it.
@aryn-jaeger
@aryn-jaeger Жыл бұрын
Awh it took me months too when i farm it for Kazuha.
@faytstrife13
@faytstrife13 10 ай бұрын
This is me. Where the VV EM pieces at
@cesarignjas
@cesarignjas 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video! it seems that He is pretty easy to build and works with anything you have good on your account, my Venti is build in the half way, he have a full VV set but with the traditional crit/atk/anemo dmg build, using the stringless, he ended up with 200 EM, 53 cr and 103 cd and with this he gets the job done, sure he is not broken, but have a decent build to support any comp I can figure out without have to think too much in be swapping pieces around, my best EM pieces goes straight to my Sucrose.
@tama4997
@tama4997 2 жыл бұрын
tbh theres so many eror/lacking in this video but it is still a good reference, for example since venti e have a pretty huge multiplier it make a decent distinction for the dmg on the dps build. depending on how many enemy, skill talent(for dps build) and artifact sub stat(on dps too) it can make a considerable different but i think both build is good and if well built it doesnt really that much of a different. but if you have limited EM VV artifact better goes to kazuha/sucrose (if you have and use them)
@Kloud14
@Kloud14 2 жыл бұрын
I mean having 3 anemo characters with all EM mainstat is kinda of dream but nice to know doing DPS build isnt bad either. I have surcrose full em and definitely want my c6 sayu full em build too. Might prioritize the VV set for now for venti and kazuha
@crimsonram6106
@crimsonram6106 2 жыл бұрын
You shall add "burst damage comparison" to the title. Comparison of the two without elemental skill usage is only half of the picture. I appriciate the multiple scenarios! Kudos to you
@RandomVs189
@RandomVs189 2 жыл бұрын
I wasn’t suprised abt the crit rate/ crit dmg, but I was suprised how much EM you managed to get
@phamhuyhoang12-19
@phamhuyhoang12-19 2 жыл бұрын
it's achievable
@crash_bobo10
@crash_bobo10 2 жыл бұрын
Just get lucky with artis, my sucrose is on 784 EM even tho I have a ER sands on her.
@crash_bobo10
@crash_bobo10 2 жыл бұрын
@@sallyhope2137 IKR SO REVOLUTIONARY
@Maria-.-Kim
@Maria-.-Kim 2 жыл бұрын
Lol mine 900😭😭😭😭😭
@LesbianImpact
@LesbianImpact 2 жыл бұрын
@@crash_bobo10 I’ve been farming for 2 weeks & I still don’t have a decent 4PC VV. Now what?
@demonmask479
@demonmask479 2 жыл бұрын
This comparison is NOT accurate. 4PC VV has 60% swirl dmg bonus. which INSTANTLY makes the EM build make it better than the dps build bcuz of 4PC VV. If the DPS build has 4PC VV it might be more accurate!
@chikapu3128
@chikapu3128 2 жыл бұрын
ye i hope they retry it w a 4pc set
@digichu007
@digichu007 2 жыл бұрын
It wouldn’t even matter for the crit build, then. The swirls don’t even crit to begin with, if we’re talking about swirl damage.
@demonmask479
@demonmask479 2 жыл бұрын
@@digichu007 yes but the extra swirl is extra dmg, and they were comparing based on how much damage they dealt to the enemies
@pfortunato78
@pfortunato78 2 жыл бұрын
Tbf, his venti is also not lvl 90 which greatly benefits EM builds as well.
@Somehow999
@Somehow999 2 жыл бұрын
I've made a vid response on my channel with lvl 90 venti and 4pc VV on the DPS build, feel free to check it out
@ThatGenshinGirl
@ThatGenshinGirl 2 жыл бұрын
The interesting thing about this is that you can use your dps artifacts on him and save the EM ones for Sucrose.
@tomugetsu5947
@tomugetsu5947 2 жыл бұрын
For crowd control, EM venti. For single target, CR/CD venti. Also, electro can be swirled to its adjacent mob 2 times I think? Imagine if all mobs have electro status and then swirled. This would amplify the more mobs is in the vicinity that is why it is really preferable to swirl electro compared to other elements. It is not an equal comparison, IMO.
@kienha9036
@kienha9036 2 жыл бұрын
This setup is not what you really want to compare with Venti crit, as it amplify Venti EM build so much. The catch is that you infuse Venti Q with Hydro, and then apply Electro. By the order of swirl, Electro will be swirled, dealing swirl damage. Also, since Venti Q also apply Hydro, he will also be the trigger for Electro-Charged. Technically, EM is being used very optimally here. It can be used in abyss/overworld application, but not everytime since you are not allowed to fuck up the enemies' aura. A random instance of Pyro is guaranteed to boom the whole set up, as it will delete the Electro aura, meaning Venti will swirl Hydro (which deals 0 damage). The downside of EM is that it scale very bad with ATK/DMG/Final DMG Bonus buff or even skill scaling. Raiden Shogun is the one receiving TTDS buff from Kokomi here. If you let Venti be the one receiving it, maybe let Kokomi using ToM as well, that's 68% ATK, equivalent of more than 11 max ATK lines. Remember, at a very high stat (buff can make up for it, kqm standard stats assume 40 lines), crit > EM regardless of ST or AoE. Trivia: a C5 Aquila Bennett can buff 1200 + 4 NO 20% ATK, that's about 1350 ATK, or 168% ATK, 29 max ATK lines. A better rotation here for Venti would be Kokomi E -> (TTDS+ToM) Venti E Q -> Raiden Shogun E. Raiden Shogun E Q DMG Bonus is teambuff DMG Bonus, it can effectively "resnapshot" Venti Q, because Venti Q only snapshot his own stat, that's why you can E her later, and still receive the buff. The rotation above maximize comfort (for CC-ing enemies before casting RS E which is slow and vulnerable) while still having Kokomi as the first character, just like the video, while a better one which amplify Venti even more is Raiden Shogun E -> Kokomi E -> Venti E Q. With this rotation, Venti E will double swirl, effectively VV 2 elements Hydro and Electro. TL;DR: The video is misleading, without specifying why crit build is viable. For ST, without buff, most of the times, crit > EM. For AoE, only at a very high investment (and most of the times with buff), crit > EM. Also, even for crit Venti, always use 4 VV, that set is broken.
@Mark-ww1vf
@Mark-ww1vf 2 жыл бұрын
you should have used the same set. Either crit build with 4pc VV and EM build with 4pc VV or crit build with 2pc Gladiator and 2pc VV and EM build with 2pc Gladiator and 2pc VV
@YiquanNetwork
@YiquanNetwork 2 жыл бұрын
Good vid! Never know that venti em is this strong vs single target
@limitless8056
@limitless8056 2 жыл бұрын
Is there any multiplier with number of enemies?
@Zerocyxone9
@Zerocyxone9 2 жыл бұрын
@@limitless8056 the more enemies, the better EM venti scales…but for argument’s sake, venti is a sub dps anemo. He is like xiao, so you use him for offense (sub dps) not as a support. Ive 36 starred my abyss easily without even using 4pc vv on him as I use him as sub dps. Atk 1625, 59/180, EM 590, 2pc wanderer, 2pc vv. Weapon: stringless Note: i wish I have 4pc vv (still farming, as the vv shred is OP)
@EironKyle
@EironKyle 2 жыл бұрын
@@limitless8056 not really. It's just that you get a lot more swirl reactions the more enemies you get in his ult. So essentially you'll be making the most damage out of EM builds if you have 2 or more enemies sucked in. It will be quite underwhelming against a solo target, especially if you swirl hydro
@star_falls8861
@star_falls8861 2 жыл бұрын
I just got him And I love him I'm gonna make him my main, no matter what ppl say One day my Venti will be triple crowned and does crazy damage. One day. But not anytime soon lmfao
@vanillabeans4205
@vanillabeans4205 2 жыл бұрын
DPS: Bigger numbers EM: More numbers but smaller
@nathanaelmoses7977
@nathanaelmoses7977 2 жыл бұрын
EM build is cheaper and can be better (if u have some ER substat). But if you use like xiao mono anemo, xiao 2 geo, or team comps that have no spesific reactions, Crit build would be better.
@Enriri
@Enriri 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video and the comparison but how would any sane person use any other artifact build than full Viridiscent. I mean it's a set SO GOOD you can't even consider in a character like Venti to use only half of the set, even if you're using him as DPS.
@Enriri
@Enriri 2 жыл бұрын
@UCjtDKUp485ld_HDnBEGBxeQ my question is the same. Tell a single situation where Venti ultimate doesn't get infused with a single element. Having an anemo character wich strong point is making elemental whirl, why would anyone just ignore that.
@crimsonram6106
@crimsonram6106 2 жыл бұрын
I guess the answer is that VV dungeon is a b1tch and she/he had proper dps gear only from other set
@OkOk-fu3ty
@OkOk-fu3ty 2 жыл бұрын
@@Enriri it’d be useless in anemo+geo teams
@Enriri
@Enriri 2 жыл бұрын
@@OkOk-fu3ty I keep answering: why anyone would ever use anemo characters with geo characters knowing that they don't interact with each other in an elemental way? It's like , dunno, using elemental mastery on a physical dps. It's just nosense xD
@Somehow999
@Somehow999 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly, video creator didnt use 4pc VV on Crit build, so the video is pointless, waste of time unlucky
@Hezkun
@Hezkun 2 жыл бұрын
Notes I'd like to take from this video: 1) Venti is not 90/90 No, what you heard about 80 to 90 does NOT apply if you stack EM on Anemo characters Swirls and every other transformative reaction scales off LEVEL at a factor GREATER than characters people usually 90/90, like HP or Def scalers Please for the love of god if you want your EM build to have good damage you should level them up Reaction damage from level 80 to 90 is around a 30% boost, which is almost double of what Albedo gains (one of the characters who scale strongest with base def value), which is around ~15% Extra notes: - Building for EM means you don't have to invest in talents, meaning you actually SAVE resin by doing this build instead of building crits - Calculations from theorycrafters across multiple groups that I've seen all say that EM vs Crit on Venti specifically is a nuanced subject, as they perform around the same in general* (*excluding situations like chain reactions or just single target) if you have godly crit stats + a fancy wep/high refine strong 4*, it's ok to do crit if you really want to, running freeze biases towards crit however, so just run crit if you just use Venti for freeze if you're not sure - I personally *hate* it when people refer to crit setups on anemos built to swirl as their "dps" build, because it is 100% misleading. EM setups can out-dps crit builds on anemo units with the proper reaction support (which is why electro is so damn good reaction wise, but I'll save the "electro bad" misconception explanation another time)
@youcool6185
@youcool6185 2 жыл бұрын
You're right . But not about two things: - The EM build doesn't save resin, as it takes so much time to farm the VV domain to get EM main stats, and we get Maiden along, so it's a big waste of resin. EM has the rarest drop rate. It takes more resin than leveling the talents. - The EM build remains valid in freeze comps, because Venti swirl dmg are increased anyway. EM is useless to the cryo or the hydro char in freeze teams, but it's still useful for Venti's dmg. ( If Venti only swirls hydro, and not cryo, then better go for the atk set, but Venti usually swirls cryo, so EM if totally OK)
@AbhinavKumar-xy5ll
@AbhinavKumar-xy5ll 2 жыл бұрын
Keep in mind that he is swirling hydro which is much more in favour of crit build because hydro swirls do no aoe damage
@jaz4830
@jaz4830 2 жыл бұрын
i'm building dps venti because i find big numbers from anemo characters very satisfying
@Haxelmoon
@Haxelmoon 2 жыл бұрын
Arigatoo Thankooo Merci I’ve been waiting for someone to showcase the builds 🥺
@tocatooquick1389
@tocatooquick1389 Жыл бұрын
To simplify it: Use EM if your whole team rely on elemental reaction which basically mean all character doesn't buff each other but they have their own built use Crit venti if your whole team is made to buff one character who's a main dps
@eltiorojo9559
@eltiorojo9559 2 жыл бұрын
I recommend Venti Dps in permafrezze since the elemental mastery there is almost useless
@erwinbedia9606
@erwinbedia9606 2 жыл бұрын
Not really. Venti can also Swirl the Hydro and Cryo, so EM is still good there.
@thunderbird55653
@thunderbird55653 2 жыл бұрын
i feel like people dont understand just how powerful venti is just like the 2 other archons. just because his burst is easily can be used as cc doesnt mean it cant deal big dmg, plus he can infuse any element infused in his burst making the burst deals bigger dmg (depending on how u build his party). he is A God, and whether you like it or not he is on par with zhongli & raiden as all 3 of them are God in their own element
@v.infinity269
@v.infinity269 Жыл бұрын
I just want to to say generally the teams used seem to more fit an em venti cause em venti would want multiple reactions while dos venti would want benny or faruzan so there is a difference of teams but i understand keeping the teams the same to get as similar results
@dxqz4975
@dxqz4975 2 жыл бұрын
I prefer 4 viridescent Atk/anemo/critic, because the slimes and specters are invulnerable to their own element
@freddo_krokeddo
@freddo_krokeddo 2 жыл бұрын
Its satisfying how their voices are so sync :)
@Ythelan0Clockwork
@Ythelan0Clockwork 2 жыл бұрын
i think a good mixture of both is amazing, but only if you have the craziest luck to have both crit and em on your artifacts
@pixelshaderx
@pixelshaderx 2 жыл бұрын
Normally with DPS build you should use E Skill too which gains high DMG from DPS build. Another note is with DPS build, he is an independent character so even at cases where he is the only left, he can solo.
@ProbllyHanazaki
@ProbllyHanazaki 8 ай бұрын
Ok so at the conclusion DPS venti is better if you want in Abyass and For like a group on enmies. EM venti is more like off-feild DPS and i belive venti is not a support but more of a Sub-DPS unit.So if you want your venti on field then DPS if not you want to burst the EM and 4 set vv best. Toook me 5 months to get to a conclusion.
@Error403HRD
@Error403HRD Жыл бұрын
I go dps simply because he's sometimes the only one that can hit enemies in the burst, and I'd like his charged and normals to do something productive.
@MarKhor23SSG
@MarKhor23SSG 2 жыл бұрын
Wait,the names are changed? DPS screen shows "Silent frost bloom and EM screen shows "Giant frostbreath calamus" What happened? Pyro regisvine's names are changed too?
@Olivia-pj9wy
@Olivia-pj9wy 2 жыл бұрын
Venti was my first 5 star, and I’m hoping to pull a constellation for him this time around
@DarrenStevensohnOfficial
@DarrenStevensohnOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
EM is easier to build since it is a lot more forgiving in the substat rolls on Sands, Goblet, and Circlet once you get the EM main stats. You can also leave your talent level at low level, but it require you to level your character up to 90 if possible and also his Elemental skill damage will be greatly reduced. On the other hand, with his DPS build, you can leave your character's level at 80/80 and his elemental skill can be a mini nuke. But, depends on your artifacts luck it could take you for couples of days to forever to maximize his damage. You also want to level up your talent to at least level 8. The choice is yours. Edit: Oh you might want to factor those crits into your calculation since EM build is far more consistent in damage since they dont crit.
@demoncloud6147
@demoncloud6147 2 жыл бұрын
EM will outperform DPS build with multiple enemies and lv90 Venti
@lucasfreire8290
@lucasfreire8290 2 жыл бұрын
The only reason why I prefer goin' for a hybrid set is 'cause, if you happen to absorb the element of an enemy who's immune/has resistance to that specific element you absorbed, your EM build dmg drop significantly I don't care about my Venti's personal damage anyway, depending on the situation him havin' too much damage is even detrimental to the energy restoration of the party, but at least havin' some split scaling of Anemo and EM damage I'm guaranteed to have him bein' equally viable on most occasions
@Drippy07
@Drippy07 2 жыл бұрын
Just happy to see no toxic kazuha comparisons here.
@setsuna3662
@setsuna3662 2 жыл бұрын
Of course the dps build would be lacking dmg bc his big asset on that build is his skill (E) after all. Both builds can be used depending on the role you will use him. Artifacts and weapon he used are correct and recommended for each build.
@djjdjd470
@djjdjd470 2 жыл бұрын
As a f2p player, I was both lucky an d unlucky. Got Ayato and went for his weapon. Got venti's signature weapon but I have no venti. I have 29 primos left and within 16 days I can't hope to get him.
@ivanielcastro3285
@ivanielcastro3285 2 жыл бұрын
I unexpectedly got venti at 20 pulls. I hope you get lucky too, just keep pulling! :D
@ryusawaariel6191
@ryusawaariel6191 2 жыл бұрын
Dude elegy is very versatile for many bow support chara like diona,sara,even the upcomming yelan.It's not only can be used for Venti
@youcool6185
@youcool6185 2 жыл бұрын
Next time, pull the weapon first, and then pull for the char who can use it! ( btw, the weapon banner is so bad that a F2P shouldn't pull on it, unless you already have a lot of 5* chars and no need for more)
@djjdjd470
@djjdjd470 2 жыл бұрын
@@ryusawaariel6191 I don't have Sara or diona and I won't go for Yelan . 😔
@djjdjd470
@djjdjd470 2 жыл бұрын
@@youcool6185 guess you are right. I realised it that I must not pull weapon. But say me one thing. I am hearing rumours that Xiao is coming. If i get him , should I got for the jade polearm or use other polearms. I don't have good spears . Just the catch and raiden is using it and then the dragons Bane with r4 .
@randomname3709
@randomname3709 2 жыл бұрын
I remember skipping Kokomi, Yae Miko and Ei even though I wanted all of them just to get Venti. It was totally worth it!
@azure5697
@azure5697 Жыл бұрын
I give you another insight: Build EM venti if you want to waste a ton of books, because you likely want him al lev 90 Build DPS venti if you have trash artifacts (ironic, i meant good) and you're fine with him level 80+ (he doesnt get a significative adv at lev 90 in that case)
@chazfromouterspace
@chazfromouterspace 2 жыл бұрын
The versatility on venti is absolutely absurd, you can build him however you want and he's viable (besides shields of course)
@konokiwida2601
@konokiwida2601 2 жыл бұрын
I think its important to note that reactions like swirl scale on level as well. Which explains why my 1k em kazuha does 6k+ swirls. So yeah
@lua-np1xm
@lua-np1xm 2 жыл бұрын
y'all know that swirls don't crit, right? it doesn't matter how much cr you put, the damage with EM will probably be a lot higher
@Fordrake21
@Fordrake21 Жыл бұрын
little funny fact here, the 4 star bow Stringless R5 is actually stronger than the Skyward harp R1 in both crit build and EM build for Venti. The strongless excels even better if you build Venti as a Crit build but with the Stringless R5 instead. With around 60%crit rate and 120 Crit damage and at least 160% ER your damage with the Stringless R5 will be actually so broken that it would need at least a R4 Skyward Harp to be able to only match the Stringless R5 damage. If you have Venti and The Stringless R5 (which is super easy to get) go for it you wont regreat anything from it
@tauhidshaikh4304
@tauhidshaikh4304 Жыл бұрын
Which is good stringless or favounies or rust I am confused I am using as a support character I need her only ultimate
@alyssa09485
@alyssa09485 2 жыл бұрын
This is such a cool comparison video!! I rly want him but idk if I can get him 🙃🙃
@cabi8386
@cabi8386 2 жыл бұрын
I just got him on my 40th pull
@alyssa09485
@alyssa09485 2 жыл бұрын
@@cabi8386 Update I did too lol! Ahh
@cybremystica93
@cybremystica93 2 жыл бұрын
I was fully expecting EM venti to do more dmg. But tbh…raiden doesn’t really synergisecsith venti very well. I think kokomi, a cryo dps like Ayaka or ganyu and maybe a second cryo for resonance would be better. Basically the morgana permafreeze comp
@shi4215
@shi4215 2 жыл бұрын
I have elegy and Skyward, I'm ready to build him as main dps and support
@chibifanz
@chibifanz Жыл бұрын
im pulling for venti .. so fun to play and i have feeling em build is better for him and it just feels right
@nomora1096
@nomora1096 2 жыл бұрын
Dps venti = High Skill damage Em venti = better burst damage
@ad4m134
@ad4m134 2 жыл бұрын
Why not both?? I have 500 em 60/120 crit stringless c0 venti and he perform better than yours
@JohnJillky
@JohnJillky 2 жыл бұрын
Electrocharged swirl is stronger than others bc he's swirling 2 elements AND causing EC reactions. Also Venti is lvl 80. Burst talent only lvl 8 isn't optimal. If you really wanna compare them, it should at least be 9 (but really 10 imo). All in all a poor test
@aditferdiansyah6144
@aditferdiansyah6144 2 жыл бұрын
If I think you want to build dps or em it makes no difference, as long as the ER is quite capable. Because venti this specialist cc so But looking for em in this viri domain requires extra patience
@jasonemanuellee6884
@jasonemanuellee6884 2 жыл бұрын
For those who don't know, DPS Venti will always reign superior over EM Venti, even in multiple enemy scenarios. It fundamentally boils down to the fact that Venti's kit scales better with pure anemo dmg as opposed to EM, plus none of his talents provide EM sharing or buffs, therefore preventing him from being able to increase his team's dmg output substantially. However, the damage and investment is so miniscule that most do not bother discussing EM vs. Crit Venti. He functions equally well with both builds, but sees a slight and negligible decrease in damage. Sucrose and Kazuha were the ones that people talked most about when it comes to EM, the former especially because it spearshot her status to one of the best 4* anemo supports in game. The only thing that stays the same in both builds are Venti's recommended 4* BiS and talent priorities. Both want Stringless, both prioritize Q, then E. When it comes to Kazuha, EM vs. Crit lines are little more blurred. Tho Kazuha generally gravitates to full EM as it plays into his kit, Crit Kazuha sees higher *personal* damage. If he can outperform his peers in personal damage AND overall damage, then crit is fundamentally better. However, comparing team damage is tricky because it varies from situations. The general consensus is that EM Kazuha is much more valuable and provides more presence to the playing field, so make your pick.
@laolafits7999
@laolafits7999 2 жыл бұрын
Wait did no one notice the regisvines having different names??? 🧐🧐🧐 Silent Frost Bloom/Giant Frostbreath Calamus Raging Fireflower/Giant Everblaze Calamus
@polaris_gamin6960
@polaris_gamin6960 2 жыл бұрын
I do hybrid EM sands Anrmo dmg goblet Crit dmg/Em circlet If i run EM circlet my bow will either be Favonious bow or stringless If i run crit dmg I use skyward or rust
@puntopuntoa
@puntopuntoa 2 жыл бұрын
No creo que sea muy justo comparar la ulti de un Venti buildeado a dps con la de un Venti buildeado a maestria elemental. Pero de igual forma, la build de maestria elemental es muy superior
@jordanparra7307
@jordanparra7307 2 жыл бұрын
Me explicas por qué es mejor el de maestria?, en el video veo que el dps logra casi o más daño que el de maestria.
@tao9835
@tao9835 2 жыл бұрын
another thing to note is that when you play dps venti that your charged shots will slap and should be used
@wolvesbane1748
@wolvesbane1748 2 жыл бұрын
I mean it's a no brainer em is obviously better..look at the crit stats you even have to have to compete with a not even perfect em build not to mention em scales with character lvl and this venti is lvl 80 so if he ascended he'd be doing even more swirl damage...em is superior as far as I see
@youcool6185
@youcool6185 2 жыл бұрын
His test is not even valid: While he's cheating on high crit stats using food for the atk build, he's putting the EM build dmg down with a low level Venti. And on the other hand, he uses a 4 VV on EM build, but a 4 VV + 2 glad on the atk set, so this one get no resistance shred. Nothing is done as it should be.
@eduvbs
@eduvbs 2 жыл бұрын
My teams: dps builds are better for simple reason that Sucrose and Kazuha alread monopolize any EM decent piece, and that if I wanna someone doing EM damage, it would be Sucrose taser team.
@vandayum
@vandayum 2 жыл бұрын
Dps venti uses his skill and not rely on his burst for damage. Doing that is promoting his burst is his form of damage which is untrue
@reece5634
@reece5634 2 жыл бұрын
My Venti be at lvl 90, skill and burst crowned, with a full EM build, and Skyward Harp. Baso, Kazu and Venti share artefacts, ehe. But Jean has a dps build so he can borrow that , ehe
@svenwalter4293
@svenwalter4293 2 жыл бұрын
The fuck not even fair comparison, 5* vs 4* weapon. It brings all the difference
@mikkunmikkichi3762
@mikkunmikkichi3762 2 жыл бұрын
There is only one truth here. Farming EM VV is total pain. I accidentally got a crit build venti while trying to get a full EM sucrose. now that i have avatar sucrose (900+EM), im never gonna farm the Vv domain again.
@Gojo98663
@Gojo98663 Жыл бұрын
I miss he rerun bruh is so sad i so need he
@cyx_7
@cyx_7 Жыл бұрын
I think he’s having a rerun in 4.1 :3
@tauhidshaikh4304
@tauhidshaikh4304 Жыл бұрын
You get
@Adityabailwal27
@Adityabailwal27 2 жыл бұрын
Now i think those artifacts i feed to artifact strongbox was the best
@Igzasion
@Igzasion 2 жыл бұрын
DPS Build with 4 Viridescent > DPS Build with 2 gladiator 2 viridescent
@fernandonando8461
@fernandonando8461 2 жыл бұрын
Thks this help me a lot coz I want venti for next rerun
@SeeNyuOG
@SeeNyuOG 2 жыл бұрын
Why one cryo regisvine is called: silent frost bloom. And the other one: giant frostbreath calamus
@Lxsxr
@Lxsxr 2 жыл бұрын
Tbh currently my venti isnt too good and his crit and elemental mastery is awful but i use the 4 set of viridescent venerer on him and the favonius warbow. Im ar 38 and hes pretty bad but he does the job. I havent got a five star weapon yet which sucks but any recommendations to make my venti’s build better i would find helpful and appreciate it 💀
@gouzer
@gouzer 2 жыл бұрын
While everyone doing dmg and em build, i just build my venti for gathering enemy (4vv) and recharge build with 250% ER lmao
@TheMrSEBITA
@TheMrSEBITA 2 жыл бұрын
I use venti hibrid EM y crit rate dmg crit example 500EM 180Crit damage and 40 crit rate i make 3k but with bennet and mona xddd
@agx111
@agx111 Жыл бұрын
em venti is better in everything doing more or same dmg easy to build
@catsoberno7416
@catsoberno7416 2 жыл бұрын
I found out the ultimate engery recharge venti... R5 Fanvouis Crowned Current and 250% regare comeing from artifacts than u can spam ults because of his ( LV 60 ) Passive
@pandaescarlate7268
@pandaescarlate7268 Жыл бұрын
Em is better guys he has a 1s cd on his ult. Em deos bot riquire atk crit rate or crit damage
@dangitthisnameisalreadytak8521
@dangitthisnameisalreadytak8521 2 жыл бұрын
The thing is, if there's another enemy beside the Regisvine, he would've dealt alot more
@shadowschilda
@shadowschilda 2 жыл бұрын
dps venti does 3k anemo tick / 900 swirl em venti does 900 anemo tick / 3000 swirl. em venti loses because swirl cant crit & it kills his skill dmg. you can use sucrose, c6 diona or elegy bow to augment dps venti and walk away much better.
@DanielFrequency
@DanielFrequency Жыл бұрын
sometimes raiden E doesnt proc the crit so the result sometimes different.
@deys_march
@deys_march 2 жыл бұрын
With Em build we less a lot dmg from E ability, also crit build working better against solo target, so l choose DPS build.
@erwinbedia9606
@erwinbedia9606 2 жыл бұрын
Not really. Venti will deal damage with EM build if he's able to swirl another element. If you apply anemo immediately without swirling another element, then Venti will deal little to no damage.
@thishash1534
@thishash1534 Жыл бұрын
Its same same but different, and still same
@TheWoodcookie
@TheWoodcookie Жыл бұрын
I like to use him as sub dps since I mainly run him in a freeze team.
@orniqc8624
@orniqc8624 2 жыл бұрын
Dps is made for the e not the burst
@Etherarist
@Etherarist 2 жыл бұрын
makasih,udah dibandingin venti crit Ama EM nya
@SB-hg3rr
@SB-hg3rr 2 жыл бұрын
I still built a dps venti cuz i dont wanna go through a full em set pain lmfao
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