Royce da 5'9" Vs Lupe Fiasco (Round 1)

[@theghostofchillhop]

Remember when Mos Def said he'd battle anyone, and Lupe stepped right up and Mos stepped down lol. This is why.

[@idontlikestuff]

Facts. Talk to em.

[@johnnyrocketfingaz]

No fuckin way Mos def did that ! Are you fr??

[@DaliDessalines]

@theghostofchillhop 😂 yea of course. Because WHO GOT TIME TO DO THIS KINDA SHIT!?!? 🤣 Its fire asf tho. We all respect it but bra this shit can be a drag to put together when you a perfectionist like these dudes

[@Treyman-yi7ei]

​@@DaliDessalinesLupe put out his reponse after only a couple of hours

[@Dr.McVeeNo]

Mos Def can rap with anybody bro

[@gos2501]

Crazy how some people act like lupe isn't one of the most monstrous lyrical rappers alive

[@stevennabry4625]

Absolutely

[@j.rjames2390]

Really puzzles me to this day

[@joshbriggs7193]

Yup... Lupe has ALWAYS been nice.

[@chrisadams7612]

Most of his lyrics are so dense that it will go over your head. I'm still trying to figure out what he is saying on murals

[@chrisadams7612]

Most of his lyrics are so dense that it will go over your head. I'm still trying to figure out what he is saying on murals

[@munirshemsu6994]

You cant tell if Royce is dissing or its just one of his other tracks, Lupe went straight for the jugular.

[@rasheemthebestfirstone3274]

Facts Royce all over the place lupe going straight

[@user-wp1fn3ek6x]

@@rasheemthebestfirstone3274 lupe is all over the place lol, it was abt who is better not dissing n disrespecting....

[@pack_man1482]

@@user-wp1fn3ek6x Royce came with the disrespect on ig Lupe is just finishing what he started

[@YoungMesrine]

Cause it wasn't a DISS TRACK..

[@akkuestix]

Lupe pulled the"I was unprepared card" to justify his weak bars. Eg he choked at the Primo line cos he couldn't find more names or was scared. Either way..Royce predicted he'll bring lil guns to a gun fight...and he did just that. Lupe was more direct, but with many untruths. Royce won easy.

[@miscellaneouslyric]

Lupe wasn't kidding when he said "start practicing " to Royce 🤣🤣🤣

[@aaronhopkins9324]

👌

[@BlackFaithProduction]

Royce would destroy Lupe so bad lol.

[@devonsosa8350]

@@BlackFaithProduction but he didn't. Soo? Put down the crack pipe

[@terrianwilliams2624]

@@devonsosa8350 as far as rap goes he did. Dissing no. Royce didn’t really diss Lupe. Royce said the type of bars that you have to read books to break down

[@nyrisj]

@@terrianwilliams2624 The whole reason Lupe told him to start practicing is because they were supposed to freestyle off top which they already established that Royce wasn't that good at. Lupe was encouraging his colleague in rap to challenge himself and get better and Royce got super salty about it.

[@wash0266]

"The problem is you ain't never had no impact" that hurt Royces heart 😂

[@SyndicateTheLonelyGun]

Aaaah! Coool. Show me were Lupe Fiasco said that. I'm tryin to check that out today. ✅

[@alliusjj]

Lies.. but I'll take it. "Impact" is simple as recognition. You know how many rappers that can't even get a name out here..

[@alliusjj]

@@SyndicateTheLonelyGun he said it!

[@cosinguspalpatine4449]

Literally had no idea who tf Royce was until all this. Still don’t really. Just know he’s some rapper

[@onewardog1169]

@@cosinguspalpatine4449 Where u been?🤔

[@sunnmcheaux]

"...when you called me a b*tch, I was like 'look at Salem calling me a w*tch.'" LOL Well, damn.

[@Magneticitist]

I just thought about how much money these celebrities are making doing exhibition boxing matches. We might end up seeing them in the actual ring before it's all over.

[@sunnmcheaux]

@@Magneticitist Lupe's practically lifelong martial arts training would make a celebrity MMA match even more interesting. He's also a trained swordsman... which would be even MORE more interesting. lol

[@Magneticitist]

@@sunnmcheaux I kinda doubt Royce would be like "yea let's sword fight" but I'd damn sure watch it. Trained in swordfighting tho IDK why but that's hilarious.

[@jarvismack5570]

Royce would fuck Lupe up...Dudes like 120lbs lol...stop it

[@sunnmcheaux]

@@jarvismack5570 120lbs? 🤣 Bruh, Lupe has a Black belts in Karate. Wushu, Aido, and Kendo... plus he and Royce are comparable weights, but Lupe is taller. He would fold Royce up like origami while freestyling a rap about it off the dome in real-time. Make sense!

[@christopherharley9064]

I heard the Royce verse and thought he snapped, like, "How can Lupe compete with this?" But Lupe comes on and lays a whole verse on subject and with critiques that ring true, whereas Royce was all over the place and had petty jabs. Royce's is impressive for its lyrical acrobatics. Lupe's hit harder.

[@sljr.5669]

Indeed!! Lupe Won The 1st Round 100%

[@rhulani2504]

I feel like you prefer hardcore jabs more than wordplays in diss tracks

[@scottybeats5328]

Being a fan of both, I feel Royce had the better song regarding what embodies true Hip Hop, lyricism and thought provoking material. It was much deeper than Lupe's verses just in the first 3 minutes. It was like a father lecturing their son because they fucked up.

[@towatchvids]

Also a fan of both, Royce had lots of filler and woke platitudes trying to get those easy plus ones for being woke. Lupe called it out, and added some funny jabs. Royce lost round 1.

[@scottybeats5328]

@@towatchvids he ain't trying to be woke, he's just on some adult shit. some grown man shit. lupe still seeing black n white.

[@jeffreykirton1780]

He let that Eminem bar hang out there just long enough 😭

[@jrhutton1325]

😂😂😂💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽🔥🔥🔥🐐

[@TEAMGETHELP]

He's a fan?

[@judahisreal4678]

He told roycrif you ran the world we would lose it in a Flash!

[@RamocaCusof]

Im sorry... I'm not fuckin with Lupe's response... He's not that dude for battling...

[@rgabeatz5225]

Royce tried to show Lupe “look how good I can shadow box” and Lupe hit em with a 1-2 🥊

[@thedudebneasy4928]

facts

[@frantzfanon7621]

Exactly 😂😂

[@fizzlewiggle]

Naw that Lupe is weak

[@rgabeatz5225]

@@fizzlewiggle Royce lost he wasn't built for battle

[@fizzlewiggle]

@@rgabeatz5225 I don't think so Royce bars were fire Lupe was just talking and Lupe beat was horrible.

[@Steven-sd2zi]

This just goes to show that it doesn't matter how well you can rhyme words. Lupe showed he could do that while also speaking the truth

[@AngelDaSaint13]

Low-key Royce dropped the ball on this one. Lupe went above and over on Royce

[@tkcoyote9376]

No 59 was killing lupe

[@SlyEntNinja]

Lol😂. At what point?

[@JJohnson313]

At rapping? Or just because he was more rude?

[@qdontae6]

U act like Royce shit was whack tho

[@bobthegamer1880]

Facts

[@jamaladams1121]

"Losing your teeth, like a Kevin Durant comb" 😂😂

[@adilla121783]

he has to brush that big ass bald spot

[@VLP_123]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@holographic1305]

Royce made a track that is lyrically and flow wise awesome but hey we talking about dissing here which Lupe did better. Respect to both brothers

[@Adeezydadon]

No you don’t need to diss each other to prove you are a better rapper. That’s not battle rap it’s a lyrical battle not battle rap. This Royce shot is insane.

[@smisondlovu4039]

Honestly Royce won, he was lyrical and respectful and Royce released a Lyrical challenge to Lupe, you do t diss respect a man like that if you don't have any personal problems with him. I love Lupe but it was out of character

[@Adeezydadon]

@@smisondlovu4039 that’s what I was saying and his first couple bars were atrocious for lupe

[@MU3RT0o]

Lupe freestyle off the top. Royce wrote his diss, and it took him weeks... Enough said. If you want bars look at the receipts.

[@Adeezydadon]

@@MU3RT0o bro that doesn’t matter . It was lyrical battle. You want a steak or mc sandwich my guy. It’s about bars not freestyle if they was freestyle battling that’s different.

[@_luisofangels]

"Subtle subordination, perpetual sidekick" god that murdered royce easily

[@king_vision4085]

Weak ass bar 😂

[@kirby063]

me punching the air rn cuz I've known of Royce for a while but just got put onto Lupe, went down the rabbit hole, and found this beef. Man Royce got bars no lie but the things Lupe hit Royce with was hard-hitting

[@TimManus-qm3db]

​@@kirby063 I don't know, Royce killed it but Lupe did hit him harder. Royce spit a fucxin diamond!

[@kelvinsmith9328]

"What's Siri to Steve Jobs, a Budden to Tahiry"🔥🔥🔥

[@jamaalpenn5167]

“If you RAN the WORLD we’d be defeated in a FLASH” ahahhahahhahahah

[@aboveall56]

Wiiiilllddd

[@nostudion1037]

🤣🤣

[@dirtbagdan482]

Mf crazy !!

[@SupremeOnDaTrack]

Was that a throwback to the Flash shirt on the Podcast lol?

[@SupremeOnDaTrack]

@@Tokeezy Ik... nice

[@vntxcvii]

They're both really good but Lupe is just on another level.

[@vntxcvii]

@@oncewckd6409 to me it sounds like you didn't listen to lupe at all

[@beanzzthakkid]

@@oncewckd6409 you fuckin trippin king lol Lupe’s dissection of Royce’s career was crazy..

[@vicedm1145]

@@oncewckd6409 I’m glad to see people admit that. It took me awhile to appreciate Ice Cube myself

[@Sephsing]

Are you kidding...Lupe sucked...it's about lyrcal prowess...5'9 showed it...Lupe just did what other rappers do when they are backed into a wall...lash out with his personal feelings..it about the flow not about the feelings...that makes him sound like a disgruntled female fan

[@Sephsing]

Lupe is not lyrical.....hip-hop is lyrical...5'9 lyrical... Lupe....is just like any other rapper that faded away..and if he's mad...tell him to come see me!

[@gamingguru4U]

Lupe murdered this bro

[@ishaking6278]

Royce didnt spit a line against Lupe on his diss track, so ya Lupe fans, hold this L

[@slackstarfish8133]

@@ishaking6278how is that an L if he failed💀 huh??

[@ishaking6278]

@@slackstarfish8133 lol

[@LifeAfterFlint]

I love Royce but goddamn did Lupe tear him apart. “Fuck these Monster-drinking, new-age conscious-thinking Farrakhan today, gangster tomorrow. One foot in they sorrow, another foot in the trap killers who easily triggered by a little nigga's attacks who have the audacity to ask rappers to rap…”

[@llc8508]

Factz.... MICKEY

[@Howlettsghost]

"If it wasn't for... If it wasn't for, If it wasn't for... " Out of everything Lu said, that probably got Royce pi$$ed AF

[@JakeNHale]

True… he was sayin that if it wasnt for Eminem right?

[@aj8331]

@@JakeNHale nah, hes saying "if it wasnt for (4 members of Slaughterhouse) I got a dozen more (D12)"

[@hugoboss3689]

@@aj8331 omg i didnt even make the connection of a "dozen" more to d12. Nuts.

[@Myliege7]

@@aj8331 boy you a genius for even catchin that

[@dj123368]

@@Myliege7 For real. I had to look it up on rap genius to see what that actually meant

[@EyeYamHim]

"I spit your verse, to get immersed inside my enemy. & to remind you, they gotta go thru you, just to get to me" off the top is crazy 🔥🔥😤💯

[@EyeYamHim]

"Subtle subordination, Perpetual Sidekick, nigga, sort of a station that you used to. So you don't gotta get all extremely too personal on your albums when you're not surrounded by bigger artists to fucking BOOST YOU" ....damn

[@vinnzthemegasaucer9758]

Don't forget the beginning he said his verses are immemorable so how he spitting his verse??

[@Jstirt84]

@@vinnzthemegasaucer9758 simple answer. Royce uploaded the words to his verse when he uploaded his song. Its not hard to memorize how he spits the words Royce used the same flow the whole song.

[@jontehdon]

@@vinnzthemegasaucer9758 that doesn't mean you can't remember it for 5 mins lol, he just meant they're not verses that stick with you.

[@aceito28]

@@jontehdon mega looking for a moral victory lol.. Royce fans all fucked up rn they thought Lambda was a killshot

[@gikuratim8835]

Royce NAILED it, but Lupe put the final nail to that coffin...Lupe KILLED it

[@Amir-mw1pw]

Lupe went crazy and I Fuck with Royce

[@stevengill9442]

No Lies Detected 💯

[@MikeJay-on5tt]

I mean Lupe Fiasco have always been a beast and a legend and tbh he have been killing shit music or diss wise tbh with you.

[@Tom11Cruz]

royce exemplifies how to use a lot of words and not say anything (eminem cough cough) Lupe gave a master class of how to rap substance that hits ur soul. there's levels

[@Guy_FawkeZ]

Exactly 💯 . . . and what makes matters worse is that Royce can make a good diss. 😒

[@oneforallah]

I agree

[@doingadlay]

Lol shutup simp

[@M0RN1N6_5T4R]

Well when em is just freeversing yeah. But Eminem can speak on topic.

[@leyoarteest3616]

Nah bro. Eminem stuffs doubles and triples in his lyrics all the damn time. Logic on the other hand...............

[@biganttalks4689]

Lupe literally could destroy everyone but he chooses not too. Real Power

[@dalton_carp]

Em would body him

[@ishaking6278]

@biganttalks4689 He can't. He can only speak through social media.

[@NotaRickRoll515]

@@dalton_carp it’s always one of u Eminem dic riders y’all swear Eminem is this lyrical monster lupe is leagues above eminem mural shits on any Eminem song 🤡 I’m tired of u white boys tryna tell us eminem the best when he got his style from blacks kool g rap Andre 30000 red man nas ganksta nip brotha lynch hung tf Eminem got bodied by mc juice but u think he a if with lupe get yo weak ass on sick of u white boys sucking Eminem dick

[@NotaRickRoll515]

@@dalton_carp if he can body lupe why when lupe called out any rapper ti battle em ain’t do that eminem never went after no lyrical monster hoe can u he the best when u diss weak rappers and r &b guys dude dissed *NSYNC brittney spears Christina Mariah Carey kick cannon he ain’t dare diss the lyrical monsters he tried with canibus that gay ass song was trash canibus a crush em

[@JohnTaylorxbox]

@@dalton_carp hell no

[@georgejohnson179]

Clear win for Lupe. royce came with the lyrical miracle I bleed mint leaf I don't like small teeth bs while Lupe spoke to that mans soul. hit him with real shit, punches, flow, double entendreas etc. the difference between someone that wants to be thought of as a killer and someone that actually kills.

[@autosteez]

🗣🗣🗣 Sheesh

[@benjeffries9093]

Mint leaf, small teeth. Damn man slow down on the legendary bars!

[@EndingVisions]

So you just ignoring the Shaq and dikembe line ok lmao you ain’t even listen to that shit stfu

[@samuelvenegas2889]

I think Lupe’s hit harder, was more direct and more personal which in rap beef gets the nod. And almost always gets the win. As for wordplay, punchlines, flow, double entendres, multi-syllabic rhyme schemes and patterns etc, I think Royce takes all those categories. Also if Royce went first, I have a feeling he held back and was “testing the waters” and was more of a lyrical exercise for him. Similar to duppy freestyle vs story of addinon . Duppy was the better song, but story of addinon wins all day in “rap beef”

[@thedudebneasy4928]

lupe is superior and he knows that, but he had to really let him know im far beyond what you can imagine

[@nextangel]

Royce is one of my fav rappers of all time. I love Royce's approach with word play to make a song. Lupe overall was punching alot harder and staying on the point of battling Royce. Royce finesse the track and flow. If I was judging this off of a battle in battle rap Lupe wins. If I said who had the best song Royce wins. Loved both but Lupe won this round.

[@music7307]

I think that might be the common consciences

[@thedfferencetab1977]

You broke it down perfectly

[@oneeyedlair]

I think Lupe's track sounds better. has a better beat

[@jerseyrocrarebreed1825]

Point Made 💪🏽💪🏽💯💯

[@thespeechboss]

So lupe wins because he was bn direct, but any of us in the comments can replicate a verse just as good or better. Royce was a little less direct, because that's how you start a round 1 for some people, but none of us can replicate what he wrote. Just not sure why lupe wins...

[@Last_Chancers]

I Fuck with Royce and Lupe but Lupe Definitely won this round

[@3SIDEGOOF]

Royce rapped nice but only 2% of it was a diss and i cant even remember what the diss was. Lupe went in on Royce the entire track. Lupe got this one for me

[@marcodontplay]

The Nerds are up one 😭😭 Lupe spoke to his soul

[@Nomorequestionz62]

They both up then Cause Royce just as much a nerd as Lupe

[@RappinAcoustic]

Royce took a major L by having the audacity to think he could fuck with Lupe.

[@mjmj6568]

Hubris. Only Royce fans know Royce.

[@thespeechboss]

Lupe is average or a little below average.

[@EndingVisions]

You take a huge L making this comment

[@thedudebneasy4928]

@@thespeechboss delete this, thats like saying curry sucks at freethrows

[@mjmj6568]

@@thespeechboss Why not just spell it out. Loser Junior.

[@JSantino82]

Royce verbal gymnastics didn’t work. Lupe disarmed him completely. Lupe went for the jugular. It’s a battle rap and if you think Royce won you are confused. Lupe 1-0

[@crosswiz6]

Agree..wish Lupe had a better beat tho 😂

[@challiray]

Royce ain't write a diss track tho.

[@crosswiz6]

@@challiray Well then thats his fault 😂 #issabattle

[@crosswiz6]

@@lincolnacrux Stop getting technical with my choice of words and answer the question, what was it if not a battle? Quit stalling 😂

[@crosswiz6]

@@lincolnacrux Ur dancing around the question bro ur not answering it..its a battle..they battling each other. If Royce decided to come lighter than Lupe thats on him. Don't come with the excuse "its not a battle" or "it ain't laundry day" Lupe just came harder than Royce.

[@Hamzethegoat]

Y’all need to hear the deep shit Lupe saying

[@thedudebneasy4928]

lupe on anther level its ridic

[@outtheway8046]

5'9's diss felt more like a lecture to me rather than a diss. Peace and Love to all involved

[@prototype8137]

Royce plays with farrakhan. Its all about rank and respect like a mafia. Royce has parrots telling him he is that dude that has a pass to lead the next generation, which is actually just a brainwash to keep the next gen in line with politics and control of culture. Like the saying... its deeper than rap. Royce took that stance here. He likes to play father and look at the younger gen as his kids. Its an ego thing. Very harmful to yourself and others. Its why a lot of actors and musicians dont have good marriages and resort to trophy wives and cling to sex as the driver for love which they lack. That lack of love leads to that type of behaviuor too. God Complex. But actually a devil complex. Again deeper than rap. Rant over lol.

[@georgeshiroda1173]

"watch the reactions of your kids Masculinity ain't what's toxic, the absence of it is"

[@RampageYI]

This is the first kind of beef I’ve heard start like this and actually come to records.

[@justdoit393]

Joyner and Tory lanez was the same way

[@jaychulo.F]

Its a battle that’s why beef is something totally different

[@RampageYI]

@@jaychulo.F idk these niggas is talking crazy calling dudes outside they name and talking about when niggas see each other to keep that same energy. That sounds like beef to me.

[@strongcat2421]

Can't believe fans actually admiting that royce lost, and I love it

[@genefury75]

Because he did.

[@creatorscornertv4706]

@@genefury75 he did not..

[@ghettoasfuckxp]

@@creatorscornertv4706 he did gtfoh 😂 you probably fEminem Stan and Royce better than fEminem and he lost so gtfoh Stan cornball ⬜🗑️

[@Magneticitist]

He won an insult contest but lost mechanically. Lupe has a Jayz cadence, not saying Jay can't rap but he doesn't exactly get complex with the rhyme schemes in the same way other lyricists do. He's more about wordplay and delivery than rhyme schemes and rhyme schemes is what made a rapper like Banks so lethal. Delivery and wordplay is what made a rapper like Jayz so lethal. I think Lupe can pull out a slightly more impressive flow than Jayz at his best and as far as going off he didn't at all in his diss. Lupe at his best would give Royce trouble at his best and we haven't seen the best from either. Mickey on the other hand probably thought his diss was his best work lol. He's trying to make those views count.

[@elmalik8979]

@@ghettoasfuckxp Nigga you're everywhere.

[@MrJohnnyclockwork]

That look at Salem, calling me a witch line - did it for me. Lupe ftw.

[@marvlecool2]

Lupe hands down has landed the best diss against gangsta rap. Genius.

[@JustMabie]

If you told me before Royce and Lupe were going to beef and Lupe was going to go harder I would have been sceptical. I like more of Royce's music, but Lupe took this one.

[@3kingzsneakerheadtalk635]

When I saw this I knew Lupe was gonna go at Royce head and he did more than that. Lupe my favorite all time and I may sound biased but he crush Royce on this

[@prototype8137]

Royce is annoying.

[@AriJordan]

I mean some of knew that Lupe was going to kill him. It's very few emcees messing with him to be honest, very few and one of them was his best friend before he passed.

[@LordFerbombi]

@@prototype8137 Nobody cares

[@marshallbeck9101]

I’m a big em fan so by proxy a Royce fan, but when I seen this I knew Lupe would smoke him, Lupe might be the most underrated lyricist around

[@TunaFish_and_Crackers_Podcast]

Lupe is dope beyond dope... I appreciate your growth

[@TechkNEiK]

God dam Iv never been so upset and so satisfied with 2 rappers beef, got me feeling like a child chooses which parent to live with after the divorce god dam!! Much love too both

[@daswjon]

Fasho but I’m going to my dad house.... Royce got this one fam lol

[@jasonrodgers8259]

The good thing about all this is they really don't have beef with each other. They're tapping into the competitive nature of the art. This is so good for hip hop.

[@daswjon]

@@jasonrodgers8259 i think it’s beyond the arts at this point bro.... lupe literally said I wish Royce died instead of Biz Markie lol

[@jasonrodgers8259]

@@daswjon it's just bars

[@LiveForFreedom777]

@@daswjon lupe

[@kaMiKazeT12]

"Fuck that, back to my status All icy, talk spicy like the House of Atreides..." It's official. Lu from another planet 🔥

[@SuperMcgangbang]

I about lost it with that Dune reference. Lupe won’t ever talk down to you lyric wise

[@sljr.5669]

Straight Up! Hands Down!! Lupe Won The 1st Round 100%

[@jamaalpenn5167]

Jamaal Penn “If you RAN the WORLD we’d be defeated in a FLASH” ahahhahahhahahah

[@Stylefree491]

Been from

[@christovrea4273]

Spice 💀

[@SupaSeb09]

Look at Salem calling me a witch. Anyone in 2023?

[@Duzypriicee]

2024*

[@MacLaw3084]

the eminem reference was dope af

[@jamm9621]

Daaayyyyymmmmm, why would Royce wake this monster up? That was a mistake, Lupe destroyed em.

[@Mrespn84]

Man u better stop it lol... Lupe nice but stop that 😆

[@manchildschannel7777]

FACTZ LOL👍🏿👍🏿😅🤣😅🤣😂😂😅MUAH😘😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

[@oncewckd6409]

@@manchildschannel7777 Lupe was mid I could write a better diss than that lol

[@kongwakasomo9840]

@@oncewckd6409 that’s the catch- he didn’t write it. he did what hov does.

[@enjoydavision933]

@@kongwakasomo9840 people only see the surface level shit

[@KingDanGaming]

I thank them both for making a memorable moment in Hip Hop

[@512thirds]

Big factz!

[@bicho5925]

“ya mental health hotline blowing up but u the last person who should be picking that phone up” that’s some evil ass shit to say bro i feel guilty for enjoying this 😭😭🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@ddp5406]

At first i was like that aint a diss, shouldnt he say he should be first to call the hotline? Then i was like "OH Shet" 😮

[@TheTazer255]

I don’t understand this bar, can y’all explain this to me

[@luisofthelion]

@@TheTazer255 It’s a fancier way of saying Royce needs to seek mental help and therefore shouldn’t be helping others with mental issues

[@thespeechboss]

Anything lupe says is gonna get treated like fire, I see. That was a basic ass line. Why would you even single this out? Oh, because the whole song was THIS underwhelming.

[@ddp5406]

@@thespeechboss and i see royce fans are gonna keep changing what diss record is...95% of what royce said was filler...nobody got time for that shit, and now he is silent again, accept for talkin shit on the phone

[@tray2333]

Now hold on, wait one goddamn minute!! Now THIS is an MC battle. And LUPE WON easy for me. Everything he's saying resonates with me and it sounds more aggressive despite his somewhat laid back delivery. Glad I heard his song second.

[@kanedathe28th93]

Been a Royce fan for a good minute. Never seen him take a clear L. He lost this one bad. Lupe cooked him, and that dune bar was crazy by lupe. 💯💯💯

[@LCDubXVI]

I feel like Lupe set the bait with an unofficial freestyle on IG LIVE. Knowing how Royce is; laid a bar festival on wax showcasing his lyrical prowl. Lupe responded, not too lyrical, but DIRECT. Only proving that in a battle you gotta go for the neck..not just lay bars out. Royce, we know you can rap, but this is a battle..should've gone wit a more direct approach. Lupe makes songs, dude can sing...you hear it in the intro, but dude has that fire in him

[@georgejohnson179]

@A.r.-16 Royce doesn't know how to battle. last time he got in a ring and actually tried mistah fab killed him

[@mickey2shot1]

Don't think Royce was in that headspace of beef and direct insults. He prolly wasn't expecting lupe to come so hard with the insults as the convo was about lyrical greats and who raps best

[@atibagaskin77]

Smh. Royce killed that jawn fam. He said alot more than you think without being all personal with personals like the URL is use to.

[@atibagaskin77]

@@georgejohnson179 what!? U must don't kno Royce or your just a hater.

[@georgejohnson179]

@@atibagaskin77 I'm very familiar with Royce... not a hater at all. he makes some decent music (Death is certain/Book of Ryan) but when it comes to battling his ego writes checks his abilities can't cash. Its just a fact that mistah fab beat him in a judged battle.

[@adrianchandler7853]

The fact that Lupe got him in a freestyle says a lot. I feel like Lupe is warning him. The next diss by Lupe will be written, and Royce will die.

[@OracleEND]

😂😂😂

[@ericparra2027]

You actually think it was a freestyle?? LMFAO

[@vaibhavgaur5268]

@@ericparra2027 Do you know what a freestyle is btw?

[@Eliri1999]

Bro it was all written

[@adrianchandler7853]

@@Eliri1999 nobody asked you.

[@thetruthbetoldpodcast-hiph9311]

I fux with Royce but his track was like 15% diss 85% why my flow is great. Lupe's shit was way more direct. 100% diss. Even tho sonically Royce's sounds better, I gotta give it Lu. Royce is still one of my favorites and is probably the best aged rapper in the game.

[@hamar5908]

Tbf this was a great round 1. Royce showed us he could Lupe shit & Lupe shown he could Royce shit.

[@sdewey4152]

Problem is his (Royce)flow is whack compared to someone like Chino XL even over a decade ago his flow is 100x this.... Suppose he's still better than over exaggerated cadence rappers of the modern era, like they need to over emphasise words for the fucking stupid... And I'm a big Royce fan (well till he went back to being Ems bitch, no issues i still rock the OG Bad meets Evil shit..)

[@swelly84]

@@sdewey4152 EMs bitch🤔. Nah they like brothers from another mother. Real recognize real

[@MistaWordz]

Until Mickey entered the ring destroyed Royce.

[@TONE-bh4xx]

I got black thought as the best

[@wordsmithington8270]

My man said “ if it was for , if it wasn’t for I got a dozen more “ 🤯 that’s it … Fatality

[@ntandosimelane8043]

Tell me you also caught the D12 reference there.

[@KeyHeir]

This isn't a beef; more like a rap battle. Epic!!!! I'm from Chicago so I'm bias

[@s.linastaffords6744]

100 & Jeffrey

[@Hamzethegoat]

From 11:50-12:03 Lupe basically says Royce tried the rap like Eminem on his diss songs then says I can’t blame him Em is one of his favorites too😂😂😂

[@jarvismack5570]

He aint want Em to get on his ass

[@esotericguru7111]

@@jarvismack5570 Em would get destroyed. He never faced anyone who's nice on the mic, Canibus and K Rino destroyed him, and some random dude on the street lol. This isn't Mariah Carey, Benzino, MGK, Nick Cannon, Everlast, etc lol.

[@bklyncrook]

@@esotericguru7111 MC Juice.

[@stephenwarren937]

@@esotericguru7111 he literally battled battle rappers for years. He clowned canibus and never replied to k rino. You're listing people he clowned because he didn't like them....

[@nahfammmm354]

@@stephenwarren937 He never battled any real heavyweights in the industry, though. Everyone always says "ohhh Em kills EVERYBODY!" but hasn't really battled any heavy hitters. Just disses pop stars. And low key, Ja Rule of all people had the craziest line against Em.

[@carmin2632]

I’m a bigger Royce fan than Lupe but Royce lost round 1. Lupe fucking killed that. Rap shit bro you gotta love it

[@hugoboss3689]

The two disstracks are PERFECT to understand that Royce has zero idea what interesting and well written lyrics are. The rhymes are crazy but nothing is memorable, it jsut comes and goes. And you re left with nothing. Because its all just rapid fire gibberish that falls apart on closer examination, and is just kept together by alot of (excellent) rhyming. So yes... If we re counting how many syllables rhymed ... Royce won. But everybody knows who won. Just like everybody knew who the better lyricist is between the two. Lupe knew going into this. Royce knew. The fans knew. Nobody is surprised. lyrical myrical irical biblical criminal kiminal Quamintible Shwimilil Congristable Idlical Sylibil

[@jamaalpenn5167]

Hahhahahah yo you nice

[@aryavart296]

Great take

[@iceberg760]

Perfect take

[@markhammett2377]

Royce won overall my opinion

[@hugoboss3689]

@@markhammett2377 that overall is suspicious in my opinion lol. It was one track back and forth. Royce got clowned and people are like... Yea but if you also consider flow and rhyming. I mean its about rapping and really you gotta bla bla bla... Royce got clowned. Doesnt matter which crazy equation fans come up with that results with Royce narrowly winning with all factors considered. Cause he got bullied into not making a second song. Cause he got the shit ridiculed out of his whole career and persona. It was almost mean by lupe lol.

[@Maz_Mitch]

Lupe casually picked Royce apart and left his remains scattered across IG live smh

[@mysticruin6043]

My take has always been, regardless of how you feel about the outcome these are both elite displays of rapping. Simple as that.

[@Guy_FawkeZ]

Excellent, non-dualistic dichotomy-based disposition. 👍👍

[@bobo-ut6bo]

Lupe got the W on this. Royce's joint sounded like a song that was already written, and he just added a few things to make it sound like he was talking to Lupe. I f#@% with both of them, though.

[@concertvillage9415]

Royce just rhyming words. Round one goes to lupe

[@christianbasped]

Sorry your not smart enough to understand what he is saying

[@concertvillage9415]

@@christianbasped yawn 🥱

[@concertvillage9415]

@@christianbasped Royce just got ate up by Mickey Factz about an hour ago. He’s down bad

[@Space_City_Texan]

@@concertvillage9415 tf ? 🤔 Royce murdered Lupe that’s why his boyfriend had to jump in 🤣

[@doublehockeystix]

@@christianbasped you're* the irony in using the word "smart"

[@PopularNobody]

"if it wasnt for(4)..... if it wasn't for (4)...... if it wasn't for (4).... Nigga I got a dozen more" 4+4+4=12 Lupe different and that was just a jab

[@swiffmatic]

That was "impressive" huh? 😂🤣

[@jhillinthehizzouse]

And D12 , this man stays with the multi-entendres

[@veritas30001ify]

If that was “just a jab” then why didnt you quote an actual “punch”

[@RB-gx4qg]

@@jhillinthehizzouse 4 emcees in slaughter house. Dirty Dozen crew is a dozen more.

[@jhillinthehizzouse]

@@RB-gx4qg It's insane the replay value lupes lyrics alone can bring

[@chakaoliver7835]

These two go down in history for the 'softest beats ever selected for rap battle'

[@hoc1992]

😂😂 this has got the be the softest beef in history edit: Lupe won

[@VizciouZ618]

😂😂 it’s a lyrical beef. Y’all funny as heII though 😂😂

[@kevlar1482]

The Lupe beat is amazing. He floated over his head ethereally. Yours too, dumbo.

[@ruffthegamer56]

At least he told Royce to start practicing

[@pfwww12]

LUPEEE JUST LYRICALLY BOMBBBBBB THISSSSS DUDEEE DAMNNNNNNN🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@apd4880]

Good stuff both of yall. Im a stan so inclined to go with Royce, but I was feelin Lupe more tbh

[@arianadonis4099]

Me too and you feel that way because Stan shit aside Lupe bodied Royce.

[@thespeechboss]

@@arianadonis4099 give me two decent bars lupe said that bodied royce.

[@arianadonis4099]

@@thespeechboss my opinion doesn't matter to you so that would be a waste of time.

[@ggshin1377]

I feel like Em fans who are really Em fans would go with Lu. Lu dissected this with the same mastery than Em classic diss tracks like 'Girls' made me feel. It's hilarious that some ppl are going with Royce based off Em association when Lu is basically handling this the way old Em would. Methodical, personal and skillful

[@Lubenica224]

Who cares if u are a royce or lup fan stop that kid shit. Fact is that royce had a better flow and wordplays, musically u can go with royce but thats a battle and lupe came straight personally and hit way harder. So this goes to lupe. I say this as a fan of battlerap

[@robrodgerr1]

Of course Joe would catch a stray 😂😂😭😭

[@PreAbuYusef]

lol!!

[@leekotvfilms5236]

He not coming outside ...in diss climate lol

[@kstewart199375]

@@leekotvfilms5236 bars!

[@ray6ixside734]

@@leekotvfilms5236 Joe out of shape right now

[@Movingchickens]

Joe and Lupe cool tho

[@jermbodicaprio648]

“I spit your verse to get immersed inside my enemy and to remind you they gotta go through you just to get to me” Lupe is so fire that’s shit I wish I would think of

[@coreyskixjewelry]

Lupe's joint is flames all the way around I can't stop bobbing my head. That beat is bananas!!!

[@himdownstairs5116]

I'm a bigger Royce fan than Lupe, but if you think Royce won this round you probably didn't understand what Lupe was saying. Royce was calling him a nerd with the title and Lupe flipped it. You might have to listen to Lupe's like three or four times the grasp the leathalness!

[@mossjackson]

Exactly

[@e.hunter9427]

Lmao great assessment

[@daswjon]

It’s hard to say... this won will be won off of technicalities for sure, Royce’s beat selection gave him an edge honestly

[@mitsulegend]

@@daswjon fuck a beat lyrics

[@dieversions]

@@daswjon that beat is the weakest diss track beat ever in the history of battle rap... i felt like i was dreaming and i was gonna go off into never never land and smoke a blunt with peter pan! 🤷‍♂️

[@redlightdistrict8038]

Royce thought he was teaching a masterclass lupe came to teach a lesson .....1-0 lupe

[@WolfeDaddy35]

This was just a win for the culture!!

[@JF1881]

And a lost for lupe. Rd. 1 Royce and I’m a ol’Lupe fan

[@georgejohnson179]

and for lupe lol

[@oncewckd6409]

@@georgejohnson179 Nah Royce

[@georgejohnson179]

@@oncewckd6409 its all opinion but the clear consensus is that Lupe smoke him. Was a much more direct, scathing layered diss that exposed Royce's gimmick style of rapping.. royce only had a couple lines that actually hit (shoot your face back conway line)...but most of it was just nonsense." I'll shoot your son while he holding sun chips." smh

[@oncewckd6409]

@@georgejohnson179 "if you ran the world, we'd be defeated in a flash" 8th grade level rap

[@benjamin9625]

Thank you Royce for bringing this LUPE OUT‼️🔥🔥🔥‼️🔥‼️🔥‼️🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@voidking9597]

All I’m gonna say is Royce needs to respond as far as I’m concerned.

[@chreed5837]

In high school Royce and Lupe were my favorite rappers and I never woulda thought this would come to this ten years later lol I’m just eating my popcorn

[@IsaiPR]

Same here, in High School. Lupe is my #1 and Royce is #2

[@ljturnbow]

"Yall with all the bars, laugh hard but yall ridiculous. I want all the smoke, Matt Barnes, Sha'cari Richardson"

[@PreAbuYusef]

yep, I like that bar....He needed more though I think....Lupe freestyle was better...barely...but, Mickey went completly bonkers on him...!!! I hope Royce bring that work in Round 2!

[@atibagaskin77]

That was fire! 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@atibagaskin77]

@@PreAbuYusef they was all personals & spitting like they really had beef like that. Royce spit harder than you think tho, you probably didn't catch all he was saying but he went in without really Wildin out.

[@atibagaskin77]

@@PreAbuYusef Mickey was OK but too basic if you ask me. All personals without really displaying a challenging skill set.

[@JP-jd8wr]

@@atibagaskin77 sounds like you biased towards Royce...

[@henrychinaski5938]

Budden stay catching strays lmao

[@tribeTV]

😂😂😂

[@TONE-bh4xx]

facts, lol

[@solodolotrevino]

You’d be hard pressed to find any lyricist on the level of Lupe’s in any genre. Whatever the top tier is, he’s right up there hovering above

[@damarcomusik639]

Your out of ya mind

[@jaydonthomas427]

Dax.

[@richrobin7070]

@@jaydonthomas427 gotta be smokin multiverse unicorn dicks thinkin dax nicer than Lupe 🤦🏾‍♂️ y’all Eminem Stan’s dick ride anyone who can rhythm fast. Lupe knows how to minimize the amount of words he saying and the rate at which it was said and it still have more impact and hold more weight.

[@shrbmr]

@@damarcomusik639 no you are. Go listen to lupe work. World is biggen them Eminems circle

[@lald01]

Em would wash him.

[@dreamlike8655]

Listening to Lupe's track was like witnessing him disect Royce on the operating table.

[@bihurley515]

Yo I love how Lupe embraced being a nerd..that was the only way he could've got royce fans to see that he won that round!!

[@AriJordan]

The funny thing is, so many street niggas respect Lupe. Lupe is a nerd that's tapped in with street niggas. Royce claims to be a street nigga, but nobody can make out what he's done in the streets other than talk about his credit. Where I'm from we don't brag on what we've done in the street.

[@jaysuserid]

Lupe all day. Royce let Joe walk himself into a Killbox....damn.

[@YelloDuzzit]

Huh?

[@jaysuserid]

@@YelloDuzzit 💩

[@Magneticitist]

Joe been dead for ages he was maybe the nicest rapper going at you when I was a teenager but then somehow he ended up being the guy who you wished they replaced with somebody else in Slaughterhouse.

[@arex82]

I used to always say Joey and Lupe were the two most underrated pens in the game. I’m Talking “mainstream” here. If such a word can be used for Lu. Non-mainstream: Aesop Rock

[@jlw7496]

Ppl forgot Lupe is really like that!! A true MC

[@Reallybruh99]

I remember watching this live I didn’t realize it was 2 years ago

[@Young_Stocky]

Lupe's was definitely tailor maid for Royce's casket.

[@YaredYahu1212]

Lupe won against Royce hands down. Royce tried to come lyrical miracle and Lupe came straight up personal and bombed on Ryan. Crooked or Joell please come help your man.

[@manchildschannel7777]

Lol😂🤣😂🤣👊🏿🤣😂" start practicing Nigga!!!!"(lupe voice)

[@xtxresurrectxtx3910]

First off they ain't trynna see who can make the best disstrack... they are testing eachother ability of rapping and if lupe is coming at royce with just personals while royce is using so many techniques of rapping den I'm sorry but u out yo rabbit ass mind if u think Luoe won that

[@YaredYahu1212]

@@xtxresurrectxtx3910 I can think what I want, its called an opinion.

[@oncewckd6409]

@@xtxresurrectxtx3910 fr if we're talking RAP Royce dropkicked Lupe lol

[@manchildschannel7777]

@@xtxresurrectxtx3910 so Lupe didnt show Flawless Technical skills??? n Micky destroyed him too thats FACTZ...plus Lupe have the better catalog I'm a fan of Royce but Lupe discography/catalog Trump's Royce plus his diss was to the point like a diss is suppost to be and was a freestyle while Royce took time a wrote his diss and Lupe shit still was hitting harder to me

[@ghost.888]

Fun fact: lupe can break concrete with two fingers... let that sink in

[@genefury75]

Lupe got round one hand down.

[@ThePsychoticCircusofSavannah]

I love Royce's music. And have for decades, however... Lupe took this. clearly

[@kwanelebam470]

Lupe's lyrical prowess is extreme, plus he is a super genius, he throws haymakers while Royce throws jabs. It's more like comparing the impact of a hiroshima atomic bomb to that of a hand grenade.

[@deeayeveeeyedee3793]

The last minute and a half of Lupe’s verse put the nail in the coffin. Royce really rap like he mastered the art of saying a whole lot of nothing in a way that sound like a whole lot of something. And I’m glad Lupe brought that up about his 7 minute verse. And what does Afu Ra gotta do with any of this? Lol Royce always throwing shade his way.

[@ProblematicDonut]

Royce made an album with Eminem and people still don't know who he is....

[@lonniedaniels6453]

Perpetual sidekick ...that whole verse 🔥 Lupe gets Round 1

[@tlovespeaksss]

Respect to Royce he’s one of the greatest but in battle rap we would say that’s filler Lolol. Cuz Lupe went personal and direct !

[@arthuresparza2617]

Been a hiphop head for almost 30 years. Lupe's punches hit way harder than Royce. Royce is really dope, I love him, he was rapping his ass off, and it was fun to listen to.. dope track overall... but Lupe has so much more depth. He just hit him hard with every bar right in heart where it hurts the most. He's the original KDOT. This was like watching a grown man beat up an 18 year old. There was a huge maturity difference in the bars, yall young kids can hear but you dont know how to listen!

[@FLOURISHFAMILYENT]

One of the best W's for the culture

[@jerseyrocrarebreed1825]

Definitely 💪🏽💪🏽

[@heartgang7778]

FACTS

[@Mafi_Turner-Diaz]

On Royces end it sound like the first bars were a diss and the rest was craft and wordplay. Lupe won this round and shows why he's a threat for his sample size, royce did cruze threw the beat. Lupe made points threw and kinda did royces flow

[@e.hunter9427]

Great assessment!! Real heads know.

[@xxreyoxx]

Ima just say on Royce's end, it def wasnt just the first bars. He definitely took alot more shots than people are really assessing. He def was sayin alot but he wasnt just rhyming words. I love Lupe too but he def took the easier route by just going in disrespectfully.

[@GnosticChild]

@@xxreyoxx That man called him a bitch. After that all that who can rap better shit goes out the window and I'm tryna tear your head off. In the streets it wouldve been a fight not a wordy dialogue

[@Mafi_Turner-Diaz]

@@xxreyoxx you right while lupe can be a 1 time listen to gotta listen to royce back 2 back to get his nuisances.

[@Mafi_Turner-Diaz]

I also feel that either royce is baiting or he can take credit for bringing the best out of cats like jay z did Nas is ether. Theres layers to this🤔

[@capt.millen4260]

Royce Tried to Mural Lupe and Failed 😂

[@Ez3s]

My thoughts exactly

[@arex82]

+ 💯

[@NderituNduhiu]

What a time to be alive!!!

[@1and0nlytrap5tar]

“ Nerds have their hands in everything “ Gangsters “ won’t even touch the police “ 😭😭😭😭😭😭