Veteran told MAID is 'better than blowing your brains out,' committee hears

[@Pax00Imperium]

"Can I get help with the mental trauma I incurred from serving my country?" "Maybe you shouldn't be so selfish and think about Assisted Suicide." This a tragedy that people are being asked this.

[@thegan9143]

Well Justin was very clear, veteran's ask for more than Canada can give. It seems that because veterans are not rich corporate types or connected to the WEF that they don't benefit from the billions Justin has dolled out to his buddies.

[@jimmyjohn8644]

Veterans never fought for Canada they fought for the new world order being sent to foreign countries to murder civilians that's why they are traumatized

[@Pax00Imperium]

@@jimmyjohn8644 Those Canadian soldiers don't have a say in where they go. We should support them and make sure they are properly helped no matter if we disagree with where they were sent and why.

[@jimmyjohn8644]

@@Pax00Imperium no matter how you look at it murdering civilians for big corporations and banks is evil and if these veterans would've realized that before they became mercenaries then they wouldn't have traumatized themselves.

[@Pax00Imperium]

@@jimmyjohn8644 The world would be a better place indeed if more people realized that the saying "I was just following orders" is not a defence when committing Crimes Against Humanity. If not only more soldiers but more people in general would stand up and protest their governments, including myself. We have to say no and the more of us that do and the earlier that we do it may stop them and their Globalist agendas.

[@Jokker868]

These people should lose their jobs this makes me very angry to our veterans are heroes not animals.

[@janearkell5185]

The ironic detachment by those in charge of our Veteran's care is horrifying. This breaks my heart. Is this how we are treating our soldiers?

[@jimdent351]

"Canada just cannot afford to give veterans what they are asking for right now." ~ Justin Trudeau

[@tonymanuge1932]

@@jimdent351 sure they can just take his plane away then there would be lots of money...not to mention the hundreds of millions returned to general revenue every fiscal year end.

[@stevesmodelbuilds5473]

It's a symptom of the moral bankruptcy of the Trudeau minority government's policies.

[@fila6243]

Yes.

[@stevesmodelbuilds5473]

@@jimdent351 You asked everything from them. I wonder how it would go over if he replaced 'Quebec' with 'veterans'?

[@heatherjones9773]

Too bad you people don't realize that the provincial bodies do the same thing to mentally and physically disabled. This is not just happening to our Vets.

[@topkekspecc6603]

they shouldn’t have mentioned it to the vet in the first place. They already committed one murder.

[@derek89273]

This should have never happened or been discussed. What an absolute shame on VAC.

[@tonymanuge1932]

what about the one murder we know they committed already. They confessed to it.

[@issstari954]

It's alot more then one now its 10,000 already

[@annsumner8570]

Don't you mean the politicians that put this in to law 1st.

[@carollehince8472]

Really not acceptable

[@thetedford6267]

Its disgusting this is happening in Canada

[@ItsSimplyAless]

As a Canadian, I cant just sit here, not speak out. I have made videos on this cuz honestly I think this maid program has been taken too far (new changes in march)

[@BaldwinVoice]

Canadians have become incredibly horrible people who have fully succumbed to Leftism. That's why this is happening in Canada.

[@WillSmith-fg1rt]

Trudeau aand Singh should be given MAID

[@danadouglas1968]

Their passing will be much more brutal and on public display.

[@sean367]

This used to be a good country before 2015

[@veeDubbinit2]

Yep. Back when Don Cherry was on TV. It’s happening world wide so this isn’t an accident..

[@tdwebste]

This is also happening with people in Ontario with chronic illnesses.

[@ryanradcliffe9756]

Which is wrong so it's a good thing they need two doctors to sign off on it

[@tdwebste]

@@ryanradcliffe9756 My cousins son's mother inlaw committed suicide after we believe MAID was suggested. She was in a difficult place and felt she was a burden on her family. It is not right to encourage people who have financial problems and feel they are a burden to use MAID. We believe this encouragement was all that was needed for her.

[@lizrogers4127]

So sorry

[@debbitbertrand2792]

Woe to those who call evil good and good evil.

[@robbpowell194]

Yep. Amen

[@Marinealver]

We are living in that age.

[@kstowe1]

Trudeau stated the vet was asking for more than the government was willing to provide and now we find out the help Trudeau is willing to provide. this is a violation of 217 and 219 of the criminal code of Canada

[@LuckyLucy451]

No hesitation in providing $100 million to Trudeau's friends in the gay community across Canada! Criminal behaviour by this liberal government no doubt!

[@roncameron5782]

Trudeau states our veterans are asking for more than the government could give. Not the the case when it comes to Ukraine and Haiti. Or all the other global causes turd gives our money to.

[@LuckyLucy451]

The contempt Trudeau holds for Canadians is pretty clear by now - the man is abusing his position - in so many ways and should be held accountable in a court of law - he is a criminal!

[@davidharper8500]

Everyone who sat and listened after that are a disgrace

[@agaragar21]

No.....Not really a violation...........when you sign up to fight , you face the possibility of injury......nothing is going to undo this.............and the people of Canada cannot have Unlimited Liability for your injuries !

[@DistractionPicklesEveryWhere]

Sending love to all the veterans out there. ❤️ ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@lynnmacleod5005]

Absolutely evil on governments behalf

[@tonymanuge1932]

and it doesn't matter which party is in power same shit happens regardless.

[@stark1987]

@@tonymanuge1932 i dont accept that as an argument anymore, this was trudeaus doing, he is killing us and hes invited all of america to come get their abortions in canada, he is killing the old and unborn, puure fking evil, this wouldnt have been proposed under a conservativve government

[@tonymanuge1932]

@@stark1987 you just keep on believing that and look up Manuge v. Her Majesty the Queen 2007 Harper, steeling over a billion dollars from more than 14,000 veterans..

[@freedomfreedom9523]

Thats Trudeau evil serial killer

[@lynnmacleod5005]

@@tonymanuge1932 soooooooo wrong,,,,,I am old enough to have watched the left destroy Canada every time they hold power,,,,

[@anitaschneider1704]

I 100% lay the blame on Trudeau for this Why is he NOT prison

[@Marinealver]

Because the Criminals and Sociopaths are the ones in power.

[@john__lemon]

Why would anyone serve in the military after hearing this ?

[@aggroknight4259]

Scratch that last part off. Why would anyone serve in the military?

[@Marinealver]

And like that the draft has been reinstated

[@9087125498172345]

Absolutely disgusting

[@crushingalldeceivers]

This is what Trudeau's Canada looks like.

[@mr.sir.]

Don't forgot the use of maid services to make people disappear who oppose him

[@jayjaychadoy9226]

The Trudeau legacy began with Pierre Trudeau who sequestered himself away in a monetary during the war and got his legal degree. He was the first coward, now both his sons are the 2nd and 3rd cowards. Don’t look to Trudeau to know what to do. Get rid of them. It’s going to take a concerted effort on behalf of Canadian cutuzens.

[@kl.1993]

So refreshing to listen to an integrity filled man. Thank you for your service, which is obviously still being offered Sir. Thank you to the veterans who deserve so much better. We must remove this horrific government!

[@thegan9143]

Someone ought to sit down with Justin and offer MAID.

[@MarcDufresneosorusrex]

amen

[@IzaakCha7]

How many of those that are in a situation in which MAID is encouraged are in that situation because they did not receive adequate healthcare in the first place? We give you inadequate treatment through our public healthcare, your condition worsens, then public healthcare officials encourage you to off yourself. As you just heard: "deny, deny, deny, until they die" ( 11:00 ). This has already happened since MAID was introduced, and it is inexcusable, and in general, no healthcare official should be encouraging one to make this decision, the idea should only be introduced by the patient or their caretakers on the patient's behalf.

[@Marinealver]

The answer is "yes"

[@elizabethferrari1346]

You are so right. Don't get sick cuz that's the end. Doctor after doctor. Year after year. I'm losing my mind. The pain is unbearable and progressing rapidly.

[@chouinardfrancais]

MAID is not a alternative to suicide its a authorization to do it. The government is saying suicide is normal and acceptable, even encouraged...

[@terrarayner8766]

Disgraceful how our vets are treated and how life isn't respected by some...and by some I mean one too many! It just feels like the leadership and authorities with certain powers could care less, the well being and survival of Canadians...like we are replaceable!

[@Marinealver]

Ever heard of "Replacement Theory"?

[@ACNordstrom]

Say what it is Assisted Suicide. Offering that to someone who served your country is absolutely disgusting.

[@t.j2881]

We should all be horrified by the things that are being allowed to happen under this government. Absolutely disgusting.

[@ryanradcliffe9756]

No one's forcing anyone to use this program you will hear more positives about this program then negatives especially if it's just stories like this

[@ryanradcliffe9756]

@Winged Hussar yea keep thinking people are being forced to use maid bud especially when you need two doctors to sign of on it

[@guillermoelnino]

@@ryanradcliffe9756 ... until they ARE forcing you

[@ryanradcliffe9756]

@@guillermoelnino it's always what ifs lmao

[@guillermoelnino]

@@ryanradcliffe9756 Remember when it was gays just want visitation rights?

[@bidensatraitor6211]

This is just plain sick and evil!

[@guillermoelnino]

Canada keeps voting for it. so let them burn.

[@lampshadeetiquette6638]

Here's an idea. Take the salary of the worker who suggested this to the veteran and give it to the veteran. The worker can then in turn apply for maid. Problem solved.

[@philipsdeb]

WE ALL KNOW IT WAS UNACCEPTABLE!! What are you going to do about? Training for call centre but no money for veterans who are underpaid in the first place. May God have mercy on you!

[@paulfranklin4276]

We stand with all fellow vets and their families and change must happen

[@jaycee6343]

I wonder if turdeaus or any of these politicians would go to the battlefield...maybe send their kids

[@Marinealver]

Of course not, that's for the "uneducated" masses, they are too "valuable" to be waisted in futile wars.

[@johncollis2344]

I still remember the VA screwing me in 2016 when I had been to many C&p exams got a rateing then while working I was haveing mental breakdowns so I scheduled a new C&P and they never got back to me. 6 months later I contacted my VA rep and she told me oh they said you did go to an appointment and told them you were fine. I provided proof that I was at work at the same day and time. Then tried to cover the whole thing up.

[@terrarayner8766]

I'm so sorry you have been treated like this! Have you called your MP, I doubt the veterans affairs Minister is competent but maybe your MP has some interest and takes the interests and needs of their constituents to heart and seriously? I really wish I had the ability to end the way Canadians have been dismissed especially our veterans. Not one of the ministers are competent...or worthy of the positions and power they hold. I pray you all get the best assistance and access to care to improve or cure whatever ails. For a government that touts the only way to improve the lives of Canadians is to increase their control of those lives and the institutions they convinced Canadians initially were needed for improvements that never materialized. Beyond tired of the "we have Canadians backs" being the slogan for the metaphorical knife in it! We should be better than this!

[@regandlindakent6559]

Disgusting treatment of a veteran...where was his help when he needed it most. This government employee should be dismissed and criminally charged.

[@blackfacecastro-trudeau]

Or, just a crazy thought here-maybe our Fkn useless healthcare system could actually do their damn job. This is totally unacceptable

[@Marinealver]

But think of all the revenue the organ harvesting would generate. I mean China is making a killing through its prison health system.

[@elizabethferrari1346]

That's what I'm saying !!!! Horrendous health care system.

[@Jokker868]

What a way to treat our Veterans this is very disgusting to hear. This country is going down hill rapidly under Justin Trudeau. We the People must demand his resignation Justin Trudeau must go now.

[@agaragar21]

Calm down......every government would do exactly the same thing there is no difference in the bureaucratic state, and its not really up to Trudeau or Stephen Harper Canada appreciates your service.....but we cant support unlimited liability for a choice you made to war !

[@Jokker868]

@@agaragar21 the government sent them to war what's wrong with you maybe you would like to live in China sure sounds like it

[@ferox965]

@@agaragar21 Don't be stupid. I'm a liberal through and through. If they are in the military, take care of them when they get home. Period. You don't treat the military like that.

[@Marinealver]

@@agaragar21 why not just say, "you lost bro"?

[@9087125498172345]

These abhorrent and disgusting people need to be held accountable ASAP!

[@azaz911c]

I know and respect that people have different highly personal views on MAID, but my own view is that the Supreme Court in its Carter ruling should never have put the government in the position of having to enact MAID legislation.

[@khfan4life365]

Under the Criminal Code of Canada, S. 241 (1) counseling someone to suicide whether suicide ensues or not is guilty of an indictable offense and liable to imprisonment of a term not more than 14 years.

[@W4ll_fl0w3r]

Heartbreaking that mental health is left to where most feel hopeless... this bill makes it not just to easy it is literally an invite

[@67demoiselle]

Let that gentleman FINISH! These stories NEED to be HEARD!!!!

[@rere5223]

When doing the right thing can ruin your life. Only in 🇨🇦. This man is a hero even after his service has ended.

[@yossilevi4288]

Not only in Canada. Homeless vets are all over the U.S. maid is the only solution to this problem

[@ChrysanthsMum]

Nice way to treat your military.

[@scottarmstrong1196]

Sad thing is nothing will happen. Trudeau unfortunately will get re electected

[@DJones476]

#trudeaumustgo

[@timkeenan7419]

The major problem is none of those board members ever served a day in their lives. They have no idea what we're going through as veterans. But yes the screams and smells and sights will never fade of leave us. That's something I'm ok with. I gave up my youth to my country, I feel we're being mistreated at every level of government in Canada. It disgusts me but everytime I say something they threaten to cut off my funding.

[@jayjaychadoy9226]

Disgusting

[@tonymanuge1932]

Yes sanctuary trauma, veterans affairs Canada "the least we can do is the best we can do." Fund Veterans center for excellence for chronic pain management to the tune of 20 million over 5 years and then refuse to give the clinics associated with the center a multi disciplinary clinic registration so they can actually do the work. Then the minister lies to me in writing that the clinic cancelled the program due to low up take.

[@rmax4haliburton]

DISGUSTING!

[@landcruiserchewy]

How many veterans died during lockdowns?

[@Marinealver]

The answer is yes.

[@akrobatish]

this is a disgrace

[@thomasjaschke123]

How about we fire the person that offered this and then offer them maid

[@lovesweetpeas47]

This is absolutely disgusting, I just can’t believe that this government would offer MAID, it’s heartbreaking

[@1lapmagic]

It's heartbreaking to watch people die without a chance to do so in dignity.

[@FloppityFlopFlop777]

Sanctuary trauma. I'm glad there's a name for this, other than betrayal. But how does this happen, that they need a name for it?

[@oldcrone]

I would leave.

[@davidgough4750]

So at least one Veteran has been lead to the death by a VAC staff. What is going on with the staff. This would never happen if there was actual Veterans employed as staff...

[@jaanaviit3847]

Oh Canada..... what on earth??? May the light of the higher power rain down on us all. Amen

[@freedombro]

Shocking . PP 4 PM

[@batsondceiling]

Enlisted men are like ammo, meant to be dispensed.

[@russhillis]

It's called our right murder.

[@brandanharris7551]

the nazis done this doctors promised after ww2 to never help kill people that are weak and need help

[@Marinealver]

The Nuremberg Code was suspended in 2020, and never reinstated

[@jimdent351]

"Canada just cannot afford to give veterans what they are asking for right now." ~ Justin Trudeau

[@jimdent351]

Meanwhile he's given out billions to other countries instead.

[@LuckyLucy451]

But let me give my friends in the gay community $100 million!

[@jimdent351]

@@LuckyLucy451 I started the thread but I replied to myself with a sentence I was afraid to put in the initial thread in fear it would be censored. Do you see my comment to myself, or did it go the way of the dinosaur?

[@MarcDufresneosorusrex]

am gonna throw up...

[@robbpowell194]

This rings true...

[@inmybox2023]

So what’s the big deal? He was offered medical assistance, if I could access MAID I would use it, what a bunch of cry babies...

[@lauraleech5188]

MAID renamed from the 1940s AKTION T4

[@Marinealver]

More or less, But since now "all military are 'naughtsees'" they believe this is "justice" and I guess they are the "red guard".

[@karlstgelais5204]

I always had help managing my pian by doctors, then they turned there backs on me. Now I am left to suffer with no help. Now I want m.a.i.d!

[@Me-lb8nd]

What's disgusting is people trying to revoke MAID for those who are suffering and no longer wish to live that way.

[@iamthenews5624]

Canada has lost the plot

[@cindy6101]

Canada should be ashamed of the treatment of our veterans- and now this??? Thoroughly disgusting!! Trudeau is spending millions in aid to Ukraine and other countries and LGBTQXYZ etc, but it’s too much to ask to give our vets what they need!!!!!!

[@Marinealver]

They were on the losing side. This is like their way of accepting a "Treaty of Versailles" targeting the Coalition.

[@W4ll_fl0w3r]

How do you make this right?

[@coletterobidas591]

Suicidal is just plain murder anyone who help are guilty

[@ANd-zf2fd]

Disgusting

[@W4ll_fl0w3r]

No doubt considering they said there would be multiple drs assessments and appts to make sure this would never just be an easy way out. They fully expected 2yrs + before an individual would likely get approval

[@Marinealver]

But it is cheaper to make it just 2 weeks and ensure the paperwork is completed after the fact.

[@stevesmodelbuilds5473]

With all due respect, I doubt the doctors at Veterans' Affairs -- especially mental health ones -- are not that great...

[@yossilevi4288]

We should offer it to the homeless population in the United States. It’s the only way to truly eradicate this problem.

[@solo777999]

I wonder why canada cant hire soldiers tje goverment says they have no moneu for them but they have money for e erything else amd e eryone else on yhr planet

[@freedom-fighter]

Trudeau seems to be leading a very cold blooded political team

[@wocookie2277]

I’m in Brandon MB and the line is line is long.i was lucky and got in through the province with advice from the base surgeon while still serving and on retirement. Only way too get help was too give up all the medical release help I could have got. Horrible system. Edit because I read the comments. I served for 23 years. I have lost my brothers and have had their blood on me. But I’m just a Canadian Soldier! From the beginning of the VA we have fought. Look it up in the 20s veterans where shot in Canadian streets. Truly learn our military history and you will agree with me. Canada doesn’t and never has ever shown it’s soldiers their due. You don’t deserve the sacrifice of our young men, and veterans. You vote and have a voice, do something, you don’t even need too get up too send your thoughts too a the va or the minister, even your MP. Make them earn their pay.

[@nioengland]

Why would the regime be happy to lose a few veterans.. if they were intending a happy world ?

[@haleymadimckenzie]

The Minister of Veterans affairs need to step down immediately.

[@guillermoelnino]

I'd prefer they get MAIDed.

[@franklinblunt69]

I'm an honorable retiree enduring abuse harm among violations & atrocities deliberately imposed further risk of retaliation. It's awful ordeal but obstructed evaded indulged among systemic corruption kleptocracy especially Veteran's Affairs complex, conniving parasitic NGOs & legal firms, state county city bureaucracy perverting processes while all on the dole. I've been compelled into pursuing deserved legal action against such awful immoral people & aberrant conditions but needs exposed about my situation & those involved. You enjoy & celebrate your hero. I didn't care then & still don't but shows bias & discrimination among immoral character of USA character while domestic abuses & atrocities include abduction torture injury persecution upon on an honorable USN retiree that are still indulged obfuscated deflected externalized while confronting systemic corruption kleptocracy abusers violators in Ohio, California, Veteran's Administration, conniving parasitic NGOs, include complicit bribed legal firms among corruption & malfeasance prevalent in USA,...won't get attention when exposing atrocities since USA is an evil nation & immoral people. Russia or any international entity will help me before USA does. USA is immoral & evil, ridden with malfeasance, kleptocracy, despotism, bribery grift graft systemic corruption & conniving parasitic exploitation, abuse, harm, disparity, injury & injustice, violations, retaliation & reprisal, atrocities with abduction torture persecution terrorism, then coverup obfuscation & suppress exposure when imposed upon honorable US Navy retiree & veteran but compelled to contact foreign embassy with just ethics morality & virtue will provide support protection asylum refuge & sanctuary. USN retiree, among betrayal & mmorality survived when impose undeserved socio-econ disparity, injure, abscond renege heist perpetually breach duty obligations then externalize divert promote indulge conniving parasitic exploitation kleptocracy perpetual bailout propup subsidize NGO market corporateer profiteer front facade shell scam but there are other violations include atrocities still obfuscate suppress evade include further retaliate upon confront expose ... Forward? More like technology beside noble idea of USA moving further away from public good, consent, just ethic, virtue, purpose, exploited to evade accountability, indulge abuse, corruption, facism, kleptocracy, violations, obstruct, obfuscate, ...compile as worse characterize ScAmerika.

[@guillermoelnino]

Sui cide Google: Get some help Bing: customers have bought rope and chair together Canada: Get offed today! Quick, easy and safe!

[@randybrown9706]

Can we sign every liberal and ndp mp for this

[@discipleoftheLordJesusChrist]

Jesus Christ is the only One Who can give anyone true peace, no matter what trauma they've endured. As a us navy veteran, I can attest to the freedom that God had given me through the power of His Holy Spirit. A peace that is merely indescribable with any words. A peace that no man could ever take away. Knowing I'm forgiven.

[@watertospirit8732]

Amen.

[@lzlz21213]

♥️

[@stevesmodelbuilds5473]

"You're time is up." 🤮

[@craftycriminalistwithms.z3053]

This is insanity 😮! Is assisted suicide legal in Canada? Not that I think this was appropriate or even remotely okay…

[@kwadwoamponsah]

Oh Canada 😮

[@philipsdeb]

Just because you authorized 140 million doesnt mean its getting to the vets. This is the problem.

[@brendamcdonall5798]

To be clear, when I stated thanks Pierre and Justin, I meant the Trudeaus, not Monsieur Poliviere. We need and deserve a new PM and I am counting on him to bring Canada back to life. It's been dying for a long time.

[@cathygibson5157]

Maid is BETTER

[@faithquestionstyrannynetwo6998]

THIS NOT UP TOT THE GOVERMENT THIS FOR GOD WORK THIS OUT

[@antoniov64]

They feel bad because it is out in the open but I always had doubt about the quality of our Medicare offered to our elderly and I experienced it with my dying mom. The message seems to be: Once you cannot supply us with your tax money.,you are a burden on the system and you must go. SHAMEFUL.

[@pugilemoltobene3708]

This is a very humane service. I would recommend to all returning veterans. We are dangerous and on the edge when we get back. I’ve already signed up; you should, too. There are too many people on this earth. We must consider those who know best and who will inherit this place. Good luck and good bye.

[@celiacheung1985]

Your life is worthwhile. Destroy the ones that make people go to war, not yourself.

[@kenaultman7499]

Government - "taking care of our veterans is getting too expensive." People - "Have you tried not going to war all the time so we don't have so many injured veterans coming home." Government - "....."

[@Marinealver]

The last response is actually the Government saying, "nah we just kill them, also the draft is coming back".

[@donnafarmer6454]

When early alzheimer is diagnosed mental health and adaptive living supports must be mandated immediately as well or else fear and anxiety requests for MAID will result in premature deaths…and we fail to provide to our most vulnerable compassionate care. As the MAID program only provides accountability and transparency when too late or in a confrontational way at a most inappropriate time the implementation of MAID needs further development now

[@lf8774]

🤮

[@deenaschiller2338]

The wait time adjustment will not address the issue but rather a legitimate acknowledgment of the crime known as mental illness which is criminal phsycological harassment to phsycological torture.

[@gemcami7243]

IT SURE IS

[@quirkychelle]

These politicians 🙄...it doesn't matter if they release the recordings. This is happening! Vets should have IMMEDIATE support upon release without pressure for MADE

[@ariskyy17]

Or just make things easier for your community 😱😱

[@shadowingmirror4634]

I use to think Canada was progressive

[@Marinealver]

This is what they/them call "progress"

[@Biggs604]

@angrycops