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[@rahulpaul.3d]

Ironic

[@WhatnotArt]

Wow, only one reply?

[@TheGhostThatWas]

Should have used express VPN so the channel wouldn't have been hacked

[@BabyGodzilla-lb5vw]

fun fact : the backgrounds in Prehistoric Planet were filmed in real locations only the Dinosaurs and things around then were (like foot steps) CGI

[@michaelsanger8327]

so here's a talking point: i think you're using a s**t plugin and therefore got a warped sense of what voxels are/do/how they work and therefore gave an explanation that couldn't have been more wrong. bam there's your engagement. also i've suggested getting (not namedropping but hdr-related person) on a while ago maybe thats still worth a try - or anyone who knows the basics of computergraphics for that matter... but i am guessing nobody reads these.

[@mac1991seth]

I think we need a whole series of "Why CGI can't save the writing/directing". Because people often point fingers at the CGI, say it looks bad, it looks fake, it doesn't fit, it stands out, when they really mean "the writing and directing was so poor, that I couldn't suspend my disbelief and the situation seemed so artificial, it helped me notice all the little inconsistencies in the CGI.

[@someguy9204]

And conversely, if the story is gripping, you're much more forgiving of flaws in the CGI.

[@LunarEclipsism1]

@@someguy9204 I think a good example of the latter was "Prey" on Hulu. There were some obviously flawed/rushed VFX on several of the full CGI animals, but I was so invested in the story and scenarios that it was easy to not linger on or be bothered by them, personally. I understood that the filmmakers didn't have unlimited resources or time for all those shots, but they were effective enough as I was watching because of my investment in the story.

[@d3l3tes00n]

@@LunarEclipsism1 I agree! Plus it's not about the animals & I thought the Predator itself looked amazing. The cinematography made me wish it was in theaters.

[@quantaviusthemenace2375]

The cgi trash it distracts me from the story

[@Scuzzlebutt142]

This isn't new from CGI, remember how people looked at the Shark from Jaws in vacuum? It looks fake, rubber teeth, etc. But when watching the movie, you forget that entirely as the story, characters and acting have got you so far that a not-perfect shark doesn't take us out of the movie.

[@Elgallo1107]

I think they said it perfectly “ they’re not buying the situation and they’re blaming the vfx” Jurassic park took the franchise from a block buster thriller to just another action movie. The original kitchen scene is a good example slow paced and the animals made mistakes and acted like animals it wasn’t just constant senseless action

[@drduck3722]

Lol did you watch the movie? There are scenes like that. And in the scene they showed they are legit meant to be missiles. It's explained why they are doing what they're doing.

[@scarletspidernz]

@@drduck3722 While true what didn't make sense is targeting a person with lasers to show who to kill, but then showing the raptor is busing doing/attacking someone else, doesn't actually see the laser but instinctively knows who to target so the disbelief starts from there, if she shot a pheromones dart or something at them instead it'd make far more sense

[@Bfyobrian12]

I also agree that the dinosaurs look like they’re acting. I’ve never thought about it like that but it really does explain it. There’s too much perfection in the eye movement, the claw movement, etc. The eyes are anthropomorphized to the point that they don’t look real anymore. The eyes need to look more like dumb lizard eyes rather than “evil” eyes.

[@drduck3722]

@@elvewizzy they killed and ate multiple people. I think you oughta re watch the scene lmao

[@drduck3722]

@@elvewizzy the girl on foot was jumping across buildings and doing all sorts of stuff. On bike they would catch up then Chris Pratt would to something(like the metal bar) do throw them off. It's also literally explained why the didn't lose interest. Id highly recommended paying attention to the movies when you are going to criticize it later. There's plenty of things this movie did wrong and it wasn't the best JW movie but "the dinos not losing interest" isn't a valid point

[@bundy5312]

I love how Clint is always introduced like “Clint is back!” but never really left

[@shakeynige]

He's like the turd that won't flush

[@gambello1195]

He did leave Corridor officially last year

[@shakeynige]

@@gambello1195 Did anybody tell him?

[@olacolega7067]

@@gambello1195 Yeah, but he kept appearing all the time. I even forgot he had left Corridor when I heard them saying that he was "back" and even then I had to ponder a little about what they meant.

[@ezziba8240]

@@olacolega7067 Yeah, they're talking from a personal/company standpoint, I'm sure. He went from a full-time presence to a guest for videos.

[@alexp3589]

I've been saying it for years, YEARS that the dinosaurs started behaving less like animals with every sequel. The reason the dinosaurs behave so real in the first one is simply Phil Tipett's involvement who knew what dinosaurs do and shouldn't do. He wasn't afraid to tell the director that the script is ridiculous when the T-Rex was supposed to lift the whole car with his mouth. Phil Tippett pointed out that a T-Rex simply doesn't have enough neck muscles to be able to perform that action. So they changed it and we got that great business in the car where the T-Rex tries to get to the kids by turning over the car first to attack the underside and squeezing them. There used to be a teaser for an abandoned Jurassic Park project by Ian McCaig and I hated how they animated the dinosaurs, especially the flying ones were treated by the animators as if they are fighter jets, doing barrel rolls, twist, turnsand whatnot. Cg is truly useless without a strong direction or someone with a vision.

[@jl.7739]

You’re exactly right. Phil Tippet doesn’t get enough recognition for his input on JP. (And that’s a pun if you know about the dinosaur input device) The movement sells the CGI. And it’s the movement that breaks the CG for Creatures in so many other movies. Another case for tippet: the t-Rex tech- demo they did, with the Rex just walking looked nice but the movement was subpar. With tippets involvement that improved a lot

[@isthatbraised]

@@jl.7739 Yeah, I can safely say that the movement in the first Jurassic Park is superb and realistically, to some degree, Despite the fact that no one really cared much about Dinosaurs at the time.

[@scatman9166]

Funnily enough the most recent biomechanic studies show T. rex probably could actually lift a car weighing a little over one tonne

[@Captianmex1C0]

I'd argue the Dinosaurs in Dominion are 100% the most animalistic Dinosaurs we've seen in JP. They main Villian isn't even a Villian, He just acts like a normal animal intimidating others for food or defending itself

[@4Curses]

@@scatman9166 What bigger car weighs less than 2 tons? What are they supposed to drive in Jurassic Park, a Smart?

[@KentGoSuzuki]

Sam keeps saying that he isn’t trying to talk about story/direction but I feel like that would be a good spin off too. Talking about why stylistic decisions are made and how story beats work. Like a combination of screenwriter reacts and cinematographer reacts.

[@yosoydavide]

Yes, please!

[@EnormSpade]

i feel like other channels do that. I think they would want to keep doing whats in their own lane

[@Influx27]

Should bring in some of the small time filmmakers living around LA like Lindsay Ellis.

[@mushrifahmed8107]

I would love that!

[@ThadirPrime]

Ow god, yess

[@evolvedturtleproductions7600]

I think it's actually interesting he mentioned that the raptors are like "missiles locked on" because, in the context of the scene, they're wired to follow whatever this like laser pointer points at. So the evil lady points her laser pointer at Chris Pratt, and the dinosaurs lock on. It's not only the context, and that the dinosaurs aren't really behaving like animals-- if anything, in context they shouldn't be. It's just that the context is so unbearably stupid lmfao

[@DaSuDanesi]

They're not genetically wired, they're trained, like the Indo-raptor was. Like dogs are. And sure, it's kinda ridiculous to be using dinosaurs like hunter-killer drones, but people seem to ignore the fact that JP's basic premise was that a company had such mastery over genetic engineering that they could not only re-create creatures they had mere fragments of DNA from, but they could also introduce specific deficiencies across a large variety of species, many of which are only distantly related to each other, if at all... and all they used it for is to *make a dinosaur theme-park zoo*.

[@bob101910]

There were other examples from the movie they could've picked that might have made more sense. Then again, even most of those could be chalked up to animals defending their territory.

[@BathroomTile]

Exactly, you can explain away your writing decisions with the most in-depth backstories, it just won't change how stupid the idea is in the first place. The writers are starting from a point where they're trying to come up with action set pieces akin to Transformers and Fast and Furious and working backwards to how they can feasibly explain how they got in that situation and how it's "possible".

[@dinosaurno5]

The thing is that they aren't even velociraptors, they are a hybrid "atrociraptor". This can explain how they are basically monsters/killing machines which are obsessed with killing anything living, just like the Indominous Rex.

[@jjj7790]

The thing is even in context, the animal acting is very B-movie bad acting. Like the behavior from the raptors is what you get from someone playing charades and getting the prompt “scary monster”. A lot of teeth gnashing, roaring, and threat posturing, but no serious attempts to actually attack the characters (because the movie would just be over). An animal trying to hunt a person would not do so much threat posturing, but would engage in stalking behavior, which has a lot less showing off and a lot more assessing the prey for an opening to pounce. It doesn’t help that the fact that Chris Pratt is on the motorcycle kneecaps the tension because the audience knows that motorcycles are really fast. A motorcycle is faster than any known land animal and can keep top speeds for much longer. The equivalent to a raptor in real life would probably be an ostrich (43 mph), and a motorcycle (80-165mph) can easily outpace it. In real life as soon as he took off, he’d be leaving them in the dust as soon as he got to an open road, so the very premise of this chase scene is very silly. He could easily escape at any time. Even in the original JP, while the T-Rex chase was cool, the chase ended immediately when the jeep reached faster speeds because the T-Rex couldn't keep up. The tension came from the fact that the jeep was a stick shift that needed to be manually accelerated and people were panicking.

[@TheDilligan]

I've been noticing that whenever Wren talks in any of these series, he teaches the audience and treats it like a tutorial. But no one else does that. Just an observation. I love Wren. The whole crew is great.

[@BeastBoyX_X]

All of them explain technical terms whenever they use them they just use them according to their expertise. Niko usually explains terms related to practical filmmaking or stunts for example

[@sakarisippola5746]

remind me, which one is Wren?

[@TheDilligan]

@@sakarisippola5746 13:58 guy with the cast.

[@wordsinahandle]

What happened to wrens arm/wrist? Another one wheel accident?

[@Idiomatick]

@@wordsinahandle He was being wren.

[@SpecklesTeeV]

Prehistoric Planet is the most scientifically accurate take we have on dinosaurs EVER Thank you for including the Jurassic Franchise and Prehistoric Planet

[@MasDouc]

I love the hell out of that show, I'm sure it doesn't make a whole lot of money but I'm glad there's people that care enough to make something so scientifically accurate with that amount of stunning detail.

[@pokemon05100]

@@MasDouc I imagine it did make quite a sum of money. It was hyped up pretty well.

[@alZiiHardstylez]

Dinosaurs never existed.

[@anishchoudhury8537]

It's finally getting Season 2 I mean took them long enough!! I was scared that they will just completely abandon this masterpiece for no godamn reason

[@IdahoBookworm]

That was what made the first Jurassic Park so great: the dinosaurs felt like animals. And that's what made them terrifying: they were just doing what animals do. They were a force of nature, acting like nature acts, whether humans are present to see it or not - which incidentally fit the theme of the movie really well - and the humans were just unfortunate to be in their path. T-Rex gotta eat. Raptor gotta hunt. But in the World movies they feel like movie monsters or theme park attractions, not acting with independence, not following their animal instincts, but following a script to give a certain experience to the main characters and, by proxy, the audience. Ultimately they are created for OUR benefit, so we can watch cool motorcycle chases, and we can sense that when we watch the film, and that's not as compelling, somehow. You could argue that that fits the theme of the World movies, but . . . it still feels meh.

[@aggonzalezdc]

Seriously. Why does a (presumably hungry?) raptor run past like 10 human snacks to chase this loud angry machine? Are they saying this is a territorial sort of aggression then? I don't buy it. He said it best, they act more like missiles than animals.

[@aronegill]

The book goes into even more detail about how they're strictly not monsters, but animals. The raptors bob their heads about like birds. The t-rex plays with it's food. And (similar to real life tiger attacks) the raptors had to learn that humans could be hunted, It's not instinctual. Even then, creative liberties have to be taken, because real life predators don't keep hunting after a kill has been made. They stop hunting and eat what they've got.

[@stephenpatterson8056]

@@aggonzalezdc I'm not about to sit here and try to say that the last JW was great or anything, but seriously did anybody (including Corridor) even WATCH the movie? That raptor chase sequence features animals that, in the world of the film, were specifically bioengineered to seek out specific targets. The reason that they act like missiles is because that's quite literally what they're built to be in the context of the film. In the film, the bad guys have access to these 4 or 5 specific raptors that will ceaselessly hunt specific marked targets. They don't behave like animals in the wild because that's not what they are. Again, not trying to defend the movie at large but going after this particular sequence without the necessary context is careless.

[@emilyelombardo1611]

Hugging you through the phone because I couldn’t have said it better myself ❤️

[@Navarrete289]

@@stephenpatterson8056 dude great answer. Seriously they forgot that the World movies became (lame) action movies. I see their point on how the dinosaurs on World are more like attractions than animals, but again in the 1st World movie they (scientists) stated that they can completely modify the dinosaurs' DNA to completely change their attitude and their intelligence. So that’s the whole point of the JW franchise to be more of an action movie rather than the amazing essence of resurrected animals living on the modern world that the 1st and even the 2nd Jurrasic Park movies had.

[@creativespace8637]

Honestly one of my favorite parts of Dominion was just seeing the Therizinosaurus living a (semi) normal life for like 2 minutes. Not totally insane. More realistic, not moving in weird to ways and not acting crazy. It looked like a wild animal

[@khango6138]

Tbh it's quite ballsy to spend a ton of money and labour on creating this creature just to have it eat greens and scratch its butt... And I love that. That's what animals are like most of the time, and that really is the point of the show.

[@gtortillaz21]

It makes me wish they had included the prolog in the original release. Hopefully the extended edition includes it

[@AshrafAnam]

@GTortillaz21 Already watched the extended edition a week ago...didn't know the prologue was cut from the movie cause I missed it in the theaters. Can't imagine the movie without the opening Cretaceous sequence. This movie sort of redeemed the JW franchise for me though the previous two movie don't exist in my headcanon

[@enriquedossantos3283]

@@AshrafAnam extended edition? first time i heard about it, i hate all JW movies, the one i hate the less is the first one (it is garbage but not in a dumpster and not in fire like the second and third one, just regular garbage)

[@AshrafAnam]

@@enriquedossantos3283 The extended cut is 14 minutes longer and from what I've heard about the theatrical cut, the extended cut is the definitive one. The first two JW movies are just a dumb monster movie and its sequel, not real Jurassic movies. This one surprised me 'cause I wasn't expecting what they did at all and only watched 'cause the original three protagonists coming back. It's first time they made an effort to catch the spirit of the original Jurassic Park.

[@demetrialowther727]

Ok, just straight up, I was absolutely enamoured by the CGI in Prehistoric Planet. CGI is good these days, but I just found it to be so next level on that series. Absolutely spectacular. But asides from the pure quality of the modelling, texturing, rigging, lighting, compositing, etc. I think the thing that made it step 'beyond' is how it was directed. I seem to recall one of your previous episodes where Pacific Rim was discussed and the shortfalls of the sequel whereby one of the biggest issues was just camera angle. The original was often 'shot' from angles a real person with a camera on the ground could get and it's this limitation that sells it because it ties the imagery with stuff we associate with the 'real'. The problem with so many action-driven movies these days is that they take the full freedom of the CG camera and go crazy with impossible shots, but also from an acting perspective, almost every monster (including Jurassic World dinosaurs) is just that, a 'monster', something unreal with a plot-purpose to be a "homing missile" of pure destruction. If it sees you it's in "seek and destroy mode". Prehistoric Planet took the approach of being a nature documentary and took its reference very seriously. The camera work is very grounded in reality, filmed in the same way as real-world nature documentaries of real 'animals'. The shots zoom a lot (because the film crew don't want to disturb the action) and sometimes even wobble about and the animals aren't always perfect centre in the shot. It's realistic imperfection. But then, the other point is that they really wanted to sell the point that they're not 'monsters'. Even in the real world, a lion or a crocodile isn't always in 'kill mode'. They have lives full of socialising, survival, mating, play, resting and more and the doco puts a focus on these real-life behaviours. Seeing them just doing what any other animal would do suddenly grounds them into familiar realism. But icing on the cake is the eyes. It's one of the first things I saw in the trailer was how good their eyes look, and its the eyes that really sell them on being alive. They're not monster eyes, they're soulful, they have distress, curiosity, love, alertness, etc. The CGI can be amazing, but its the acting and filming that just makes it pop. It's been a long time since I've loved something so much as that doco.

[@CousinErn]

i was looking for this comment! i must watch now

[@anonview]

Four years of Comparative Anatomy classes have programmed me to scrutinize animal motility and behavior in films. You guys are right about dinosaurs not behaving like they're theorized to. Jurassic World leans so heavily into the Sci-Fi Fantasy aspect of dinosaurs that it's hard to believe their interpretation could be real. Mixing this fantastical interpretation with the rest of the movies' realistic setting only highlights the dissonance between the two elements.

[@Kaledarkwind6151]

This right here, Micheal Crichton i think would hate these modern JP movies were he alive, they are all missing the fucking point.

[@CoryJohnsonfootsteps]

I’m glad you guys talked about the punch zoom and realism. It’s a pet peeve of mine when a movie switched to cg and then physics of capturing a movie go out the window. In a lot of movies, as soon as they commit to cg, the camera starts doing crazy things, flying through windows, etc and it doesn’t have the same impact of something like mission impossible where you can see how it was filmed and that’s an enjoyable part of the moment.

[@0hMyGandhi]

I don't mind punch zooms too much, but cameras that can be anywhere and everywhere almost immediately take me out of the experience. Honestly one of my favorite aspects of 2014's Godzilla is that most shots were filmed at "ground level" which works wonders in establishing realistic POV footage, and presenting Godzilla at the appropriate scale.

[@drawosaurusrex5919]

@@0hMyGandhi agreed, pacific rim also does a really good job at this while still delivering cool fight scenes

[@turtleshelley7577]

@@drawosaurusrex5919 Came to talk about pacific rim 1, it's a masterclass in immersion. I wish the second had held the same standard.

[@KeDe1606]

@@drawosaurusrex5919 those two movies are masterclasses when it comes to portraying the absolute scale of cgi creatures and objects. Makes me wonder even more how Pacific Rim Uprising managed to fuck it up to such an extent.

[@jeffreysims3646]

And of course, you can't talk about punch zooms without talking about Zach Snyder xD

[@nostromo1131]

I think what makes Jurassic Park and The Lost World: Jurassic Park stand out for me is how grounded they feel compared to the rest of the series. The Spielberg-directed entries portrayed them as animals, whereas the later films went in the monster direction. The first two feel like they could take place in “our” world: where the other four have a hyper-stylized feel.

[@MrTroodon_Official]

Spielberg gets a bit too much credit id say, specially considering he mostly wanted retro stop motion depictions, is just once they got Stan Winston and his team on the project that they tried to push for realism on the designs and implementation

[@BenjiGojira]

@@MrTroodon_Official The initial want of stop motion is because the CGI technology was not even known about until later into early development, some guy in his free time cooked up the CGI and ILM caught wind of it then they did something with it The push for more realism was likely more from the Paleontologists they had working on the project such as Jack Horner going nuts over the monitor lizard tongue flicking in one of Phil Tippets demo reels of the raptors And it's not like Steven wasn't on board with the realistic approach, as soon as he saw the renders of a T Rex hunting some Gallimimus he knew it would make his movie a sensation

[@MikaiGamer1286]

3 was grounded outside of the Spineasaurus that was a chasing villain like Nemesis from RE3 or Lady D from RE8, someone might bring up the raptors from 3 not feeling real because they acted like a pack of wolves and honestly i feel thats how they were based off actual studies.

[@gokulkrishm51]

@@MikaiGamer1286 Agreed. The way they communicated and gently took the eggs were amazing. Also the scene with the Ceratosaurus. Can't say the same about the Spinosaurus though. I think there's a line between dangerous, scary animals and angry, maniac monsters. I feel like JW crossed it. That's why the Velociraptors in kitchen scene in JP felt scary for me but the Indoraptor from Fallen kingdom just didn't. Now I'm no filmmaker but I'm just sharing my opinion :)

[@MrTroodon_Official]

@@BenjiGojira Yeah but was Winston who presented them with the cgi demonstration after his team made the cgi models. The push for realism was a mix of scientific advisors and the art team, specially based of the behind scenes from the og trilogy, like Winston and his team really pushed fowards realism, even wanting to add feathers on the 4th film when technology allowed it, but well sadly what happened happened.

[@TheKiryu-Unit01]

I’m Glad Prehistoric Planet is getting the Respect it Deserves and I’m sure the Audience outside of the Paleo-Community is Glad about it too.

[@igrenade11]

You should do an episode devoted only to Prehistoric Planet. I think it would be interesting for you to explain how they incorporated the dinosaurs into the environment so well

[@MegaGeNeRaLEE]

Glad to see the channel back at full swing!

[@holywizard6945]

Wanted to post this comment =)

[@sonryle5738]

Wait what happened?

[@Willzinator]

@@sonryle5738 some people hacked the channel.

[@JohnnyWednesday]

Shame they're still mocking CGI for being jank when all I ever see them produce is Jank. The only thing they've ever done that looked anywhere near hollywood was the Luke Skywalker deepfake - and 90% of that was the AI - not human skill. I guess they're a company that talk about professional CGI - not a professional CGI company.

[@icebearisicebear]

@@JohnnyWednesday k

[@0hMyGandhi]

It's hilarious that Clint brought up the whole idea of a "CG punch zoom" because it immediately brought to mind the first "big shot" of Cloverfield where the cameraman frantically zooms in on a massive fireball near the city skyline. The intention was fine, but a more "analog" style zoom would have been far better than this rapid quick zoom that 90% of consumer-grade camcorders would be incapable of producing. It's a slightly wonky shot in otherwise incredible movie. And it got me thinking: I'd love to see these guys talk about Cloverfield, and break down some of its shots, like the helicopter crash or the group traversing a building that has collapsed onto another to save a friend. There were so many super small details of that film that I adore to this day.

[@MaxIronsThird]

I liked the way Zack Snyder used it in MoS.

[@mrsmodge6440]

They use it a lot in The Expanse as well, to focus in on the spaceships, and I think it works well in that show, it gives a sense of scale before the zoom.

[@jamesc5801]

Yess I loved Cloverfield. The found footage format was used really nicely for storytelling too.

[@baxterwilson368]

The dinosaurs in “Dominion” all walked so stiffly. There was none of that jiggle in the legs like in the previous movies that made them look more real.

[@danielbilodeau9045]

Honestly, I felt that the previous World movies, especially FK, had too much jiggle. The dinosaur felt less like living animals with tensing/flexing muscles and more like giant rubber toys.

[@Torrment]

I also have some issues with the dinosaur sound design in this one. There are a lot of points where a snarl or hiss stays on the same timbre as the mouth changes position or shape. It’s a small detail, but it makes the sound and image completely detached for me.

[@VAL257]

Glad to see y’all back on KZbin. Gave the community a scare man.

[@AccAkut1987]

I heard they got hacked, but how did it show here on KZbin? Did there channel suddenly post weird shit?

[@Cola-42]

@@AccAkut1987 Yeah, a crypto live video was playing and most of their videos were put to private, so you can't see them.

[@evolicious]

This happens regularly. KZbin does very little to combat these issues. It's not really anything to fear thanks to backups.

[@chrissugg968]

My Jump-the-shark moment for the JW franchise was from JW where the tiny Pterosaurs were released from the aviary. Rather than just disappearing off into the forest like animals would, they ALL headed straight for the busiest, noisiest, most unfamiliar part of the island (the public areas of the park) and ALL began attacking the people, creatures 20 times their size, for no reason at all.

[@kaelthunderhoof5619]

Coz they smell your fear. And also cheeseburgers.

[@JohnEusebioToronto]

Right? Why would they risk their lives when they could just eat smaller animals or eat the park food? A human can 100% kill them in a fight so why be so aggressive? Plus, they're zoo animals. They're not kept starving. They're fed regularly. Why so ravenous?

[@chrissugg968]

​@@JohnEusebioToronto Also, the Pteranodon picking up the Triceratops "What, a pterosaur carrying a Triceratops?" "It could grip it by the husk" "It's not a matter of where he grips it, it's a simple matter of weight ratios. A 100lb Pteranodon could carry a 600lb baby Triceratops"

[@manbat4582]

@@JohnEusebioToronto I thought the indominus rex ordered them to do that since it can communicate with everything

[@TheCrayon]

@@manbat4582 Ah yes, that explains everything. The large, intelligent bird-thing tells the small, unintelligent bird-things to go and beat up a bunch of larger, intelligent ape-things AND THEY LISTEN. Jurassic World was the least terrible of the new trilogy, but the writing is... Not great

[@justkidding4795]

I really think you guys need to watch/review Walking With Dinosaurs, a miniseries on BBC from 1999. It has a combo of CG and practical effects that really let the series hold up today. Not a lot of people know about it, but I always reference it when talking about how CG and practical can extentuate each other when used correctly.

[@Jayy997]

Rewatching it now it definitely doesn't hold up well. I remember feeling the CGI was iffy even when it first came out. Prehistoric Planet on the other hand doesn't have that issue. I found myself gasping at how realistic it looked that I could hardly believe it was CGI.

[@euansmith3699]

"We're forgetting it is a lizard." Sam cuts to the core of the issue.

[@MellonVegan]

I mean, it isn't really if we're being pedantic ^^

[@gregknock1189]

I would love to see them basically prank everybody, by making up an animal with VFX, and trying to trick the media into believing it is a real animal.

[@ahmedlateef8669]

Good creature design is more than just thinking about how the creature looks. it's about asking lots and lots of questions like how does thing eat, what are its relationships with other creatures, what are its relationships with others of the same kind, how does the creature spend its time and so many more. the more answers you get, and the more detailed the answers, the more believable your creature will be in the end. the main reason why the Prehistoric Planet dinos look so convincing and the Dominion ones don't is that paleontologists have been asking and answering those questions for decades and Prehistoric Planet uses them while Dominion doesn't.

[@TubeEamo]

It's telling the Raptors ignore any and all easier prey and just keep chasing the protagonist for no other reason than he is the hero. One of them snaps at a person who looks mildly surprised rather than terrified. And the raptor doesn't bother just changing course and eating the ready made snack.

[@knaughta.masso-kist5944]

@@TubeEamo This is where context is important. Those raptors are trained to hunt whoever is targeted by a a red laser pointer, as of course Grady was. So it makes perfect sense in the context of the story. Manhunting dogs don't stop hunting the target just because they smell easier prey.

[@katz680]

It's not that simple, unfortunately. Dominion had Steve Brusatte as a technical expert and he is a very good paleontologist. Did they listen to him? Who knows. But they definitely had scientific input on the dinosaurs.

[@natedagreat19]

@@knaughta.masso-kist5944 that’s all true, but ultimately doesn’t discredit CC’s point but instead reinforces it. The reason why Jurassic World’s dinosaurs are not as believable is because they’re not animals, they’re missiles. Yes, narratively that’s the direction the writers/directors took the JW franchise, but that’s also why JW doesn’t stack up to JP and Lost World. And unfortunately deviates from the original reason we all loved JP as kids; we believed the dinosaurs were real animals. And all the fears and wonder that comes with that.

[@knaughta.masso-kist5944]

I personally think that hyper-realism doesn't serve the purpose of the Jurassic World dinos. The dinosaurs are supposed to be chilling and scary, and presenting them as the real animals they were would only have diminished that. Could you imagine the real velociraptors from Prehistoric Planet hunting down people?

[@287MdSahil]

It would be awesome if one day a VFX artists react episode ends with "and the Wren in this episode was all CG"

[@mrericanderson]

These guys are one of the few defenders of VFX artists, I wish we had more voices like theirs - keep up the good work!!!

[@jorrit_8292]

WE BACK BOYS!!

[@The_Ostrich]

Be quiet

[@MrLeonsitox3]

@@The_Ostrich 🤣🤣🤣

[@FuriosHobbitGaming]

Wait, they were gone?

[@FaresDjebbar]

Prehistoric Planet, is literally the best documentary ever made, I rewatched it twice, the first time I was so focused on the next level effects I missed the story

[@RingoLoadagain]

What "channel" is it on?

[@FaresDjebbar]

@@RingoLoadagain Apple TV+

[@gtortillaz21]

Im so happy you covered prehistoric planet and I'd love to see you cover it again in the future!

[@DogOnAKeyboard]

I've always had that feeling you were describing about the later Jurassic movies, and it's a really cool and thoughtful point about the direction and design and motivation behind the dinosaurs. Great comparisons and contrasts

[@slimeysosa1013]

It'd be cool to see a "writers react to great and bad stories" idk how you'd get that series off the ground but I'm sure you all could do it.

[@jerryjezzaberry5009]

Writers react to good and bad plot twists or plot points.

[@kevinkorenke3569]

That is going to be the "Film Courage" channel.

[@nodisalsi]

Usually film critics will offer that kind of feedback?

[@shoto42]

As a writer I would love that

[@a.e.1502]

Would totally watch this! Great idea!

[@z1mmie315]

I'd love to hear more about cgi dino content!!! Specifically the "predecessor" of Prehistoric Planet the "Walking with Dinosaurs" series!! (Just all the dinosaur movies like the 2013 film Walking with Dinosaurs!!)

[@Theoldzitterhand]

I was surprised 'Walking with Dinosaurs' apparently has left the pop culture mind that quickly... it was epic back then and done with immense care! Totally loved it and Framestore did an amazing job.

[@dubleffler9451]

Hi from Australia. Really liked the conversation in this ep, Corridor Crew. The Prehistoric Planet stuff is amazing because you feel like you're going to witness something for the first time. The unpredictable beauty of watching wildlife. Thanks CC.

[@YouBredRaptorsMusic]

as a huge Jurassic Franchise fan, i really think you hit the nail on the head with the new movies.

[@ajaybathula37]

What Wren said at 18:38 is partly evident in Gemini Man, where you know it's supposed to be Will Smith, but if he's jumping and falling like he's weightless and gravity affects him differently, then you lose the realism that it is Will Smith fighting Will Smith.

[@LickMyLoafers]

I love when they have these longer back and forths, really delving into each topic. Don't get me wrong, the quick high energy episodes like the Ballywood ones are amazing and I love them but to really see them trade ideas and thoughts on these topics is wonderful. I love how in depth they can get and not just talking about the VFX itself but the greater concepts at play, like when Sam talked about the 'little tricks'. Great episode guys keep up the amazing work!

[@ethanrogers9627]

Yeah, man, for sure. Nothing to add to that, just commenting for visibility.

[@ImVeryOriginal]

Glad they've shown Prehistoric Planet some love, it's the best depiction of dinosaurs on film ever, period. Hope they do a breakdown for Season 2 as well!

[@jakekingston5075]

I've seen it said elsewhere, but really appreciate you guys taking a look at Prehistoric Planet. It's so bloody beautiful, brings a tear to my eye. Makes me wonder what Jurassic World could be like if it would just incorporate some of that more natural behaviour that PP showcased so wonderfully. Keep up the good work!

[@ImVeryOriginal]

Oh man a modern big budget dinosaur movie with Prehistoric Planet's effects and design would be a dream!

[@jakekingston5075]

@@ImVeryOriginal Wouldn't it just? 🥲

[@tynystanniiazakunov5595]

14:46 THANK YOU! People always say "ah it's all CGI nowadays" as if there's a computer app with a button "create realistic dinosaur" in it or smth. That's a shitton of work right there

[@DanePavitt]

The point I make about the different design philosophies between Jurassic World & Prehistoric Planet is that the scientifically plausible documentary version of Dreadnoughtus manages to be more colourful, creative & scary than the genetically engineered blockbuster version. PP conveys much more believable animals, which means when they do show off how unpredictable & dangerous they can be, it has way more impact than a raptor with angry eyebrows sculpted into its skull.

[@-samart2004-]

I couldn't agree more with this. Something that always acts angry will have much less of an impact whenever it's shown being angry. However, something that isn't always angry, like an actual animal, will have so much more of an impact whenever it's shown being angry because you don't expect it as much. Also I'm glad I'm not the only one who notices the whole "angry eyebrows" design trope in most of the Jurassic Park dinosaurs

[@DanePavitt]

@@-samart2004- It's a really overdone trope with sauropod dinosaurs that they're portrayed as peaceful 'gentle giants '. Big herbivores like elephants, Rhino & Buffalo are so much more short-tempered and dangerous than people realise. An angry Titanosaur would be a walking natural disaster

[@enrightcw]

Guys, just rewatched Constantine this past weekend and I think the effects still hold up pretty well, you guys should add that to the list!

[@MellonVegan]

My favourite shot from Prehistoric Planet is the close up of that Velociraptor foot slowly stalking forward. That was beautiful.

[@markofthearc]

As much as I love when they bring guests in… Nothing hits harder than the BOYS reacting to VFX

[@mattdowds8505]

It's weird that they got the truck explosion speed wrong when they went to the trouble of displacing the raindrops with the shockwave.

[@KillahMate]

It seems like the kind of mistake a less experienced compositor might make and a less experienced VFX supervisor might miss - where they're not incompetent and they try to think about the reality of the scene but they miss major things simply due to lack of experience. We know that the VFX industry has terrible problems with crunch and burnout, and the result is stuff like this because senior experienced artists aren't there to catch these errors.

[@dominikdoom]

My guess is that the truck explosion was done absolute last minute, if you look closely you can even see some "ground" floating in the air because the middle stock explosion wasn't masked properly and still includes some of the surface. So not only did they get the speed wrong and/or used inappropriate explosion footage for that scene, but even failed to compose it properly. Since the fire in the next scene looks way better, I'd guess that the truck explosion didn't work out like they wanted and they had no time to do a proper 3D simulation again, so they just quickly hacked something together to meet the deadline.

[@jedironin380]

First thing I noticed with the truck explosion was the placement of the two front explosions... WHY would the windshield and front fender explode individually?? A fuel tank explosion would cover that area (maybe), but there isn't anything in those areas that could go off!

[@georgesweeney8177]

I'd love to hear your guys take on anything that has come out of Studio OATS as well as the tunnel sequence in Sicario

[@jonathanwilliams1644]

2:58 A nice touch is that they made the rain move towards the camera with the shockwave of the explosion. You can see it well at the dark areas of the door.

[@travisdk84]

love the discussion about suspension of disbelief having a lot to do with design and direction not just vfx, the contrast of the raptor design/behavior from first and last jurassic movies was an excellent way to punctuate the point

[@John-ru4iz]

As a writer, I'm always evaluating a film from a storytelling standpoint, and a lot of films nowadays fall short in this regard because they rely more on spectacle than plot. You can absolutely make a big-budget blockbuster dinosaur film that's visually spectacular, but to put it in the context of a memorable story takes a lot more work - more than it would seem many studios are interested in doing. That's the problem with the Jurassic World movies. You might remember a fun scene or visual effect here and there, but you're not going to remember the story, and so eventually the film itself will be forgotten while the original Jurassic Park is always going to be highly-regarded because it was telling a story FIRST, and THEN supplemented it with groundbreaking effects.

[@Dargonhuman]

I totally agree. The only things I really remember from Fallen Kingdom (and I almost called it Lost Kingdom for how forgettable it is...) are being bored during the big chase scene in the house, being annoyed that I figured out the "big twist" ten minutes after the girl was introduced, and how utterly stupid the auction house scenes were.

[@memento81]

unfortunately in modern franchise blockbusters the story only functions as hot glue that holds together all the set pieces, needlessly integrated "legacy characters" (I hate that word so much) and nostalgia shots they came up with (meaning: copied straight from previous films).

[@VikingTeddy]

As a musician I automatically pay attention to sound design. The spectrum of quality, even between blockbuster movies is *insane*. Most movies have realistic audio, nice ambiance and clever storytelling through sound, but at the same time you have movies that seem like they didn't have proffessionals on set at all. The most common sin is using the SAME DAMN EFFECTS LIBRARY thay has been in circulation since the 70's. Gamers probably notice when they hear the same door creak, foot steps or explosion in films that are familiar from years of triple-A games. Visuals really seem to go over everything else. And the movies get away with it because most people don't really pay attention to sound design, or writing.

[@ThaBeatConductor]

@@VikingTeddy Personally, ever since Inception, it's been braaam-y soundtracks for me. The only film I feel like that's gotten away with having one is Dune Part 1. It fit. Also yes to your point about over used sound effects. I hear it in both movies/tv and games. Particularly noticeable with explosions. Though shout out to the Wilhelm Scream, that shit never gets old.

[@Red-zh7vq]

I’m also trying to be a writer. Have you sold any scripts yet or made any headway in the industry?

[@KuntaKinteToby]

Can't believe we're at 80 EPs, thanks for all the great content Corridor!

[@KIRKILLER38]

Glad to see my favorite channel back up and running. Couldn't help but laugh though at the irony of the sponsor segment.

[@earlxian]

What you guys point out about subtle animal movements really backed what I feel while watching the original Jurassic Park vs the newer ones. The newer Jurassic Park movies felt so fake despite the upgrade in CGI. Really enjoyed this episode

[@ImVxpour]

I'd love them to do a comparison between the JP trilogy and the JW trilogy

[@SyntheticKill]

Please check out the early 2000's BBC Series Walking With Dinosaurs, the CGI for the time was great and is very similar to Prehistoric Planet. They also mix in Practical vfx such as puppets and animatronics, i loved watching it when growing up.

[@jasonhill5831]

Yes!!

[@hippie_4762]

That show defined my childhood. That stuff was like magic to me

[@harrythorn149]

Proud to say my dad filmed that show, of course he was just filming landscapes, still dope tho

[@galaxydeathskrill5607]

@@harrythorn149 omg that's amazing! Please, if possible, send him greetings from me, I watched it for the 1st time 4 years ago

[@n0body550]

@@harrythorn149 Your dad is a time traveller? Thats cool as shit

[@missdire]

Seeing that carno do his little dance was one of the best things I've seen all month.

[@christianschleicher5994]

I really liked the last part about "directoring " and VFX collaboration

[@kisorta]

I remember a bunch of us in Clints server freaking out over the channel being hacked, glad to see its back safe and sound!

[@blacklight4720]

They were hacked?

[@SaladSneky]

@@blacklight4720 By cryptobros yes

[@eddiejoewalt7746]

@@blacklight4720 They got hack that some of their youtube videos were missing a couple days ago!

[@experimetalfan8851]

You wrote "Cryptowankers" wrong @@SaladSneky

[@SaladSneky]

@@experimetalfan8851 my mistake, thanks for the correction

[@aggrogahu]

17:19 when compared side to side, Dominion dino looks like an artistic interpretation made into a puppet, which goes to show that the render is amazing enough that it looks like something that exists in real life, but the design and the animation departs from a believable living being.

[@mr.fluffyface431]

I love at the very end Wren throws up the devil horns as he says goodbye and you can see him look at his hand and make a face like 'why is this what I'm doing with my hand?' as the camera pans past him.

[@phoat]

I would love to see a breakdown of Disney's The Black Hole. That movie scared the life outta me when I was a kid.

[@thdenwheja756]

Holy cow! You guys actually talked about Prehistoric Planet on the show! I do agree with a lot of your thoughts on comparing it to Jurassic World, and a lot of people who have seen both have the same opinion, but I also think it plays into preproduction and the idea of a set "vision" for the look of the film. The two shows had very similar scopes and budgets, but there seemed to be a kind of Marvel mentality on the latter of "we'll tweak it whenever we need to, no matter how late into post we do it." It is understandable considering the massive story overhaul that took place after Fallen Kingdom and the Pandemic production schedule, and in fairness, the cuts they made to keep it reproducable aren't all that big in theory. (A bit less to the muscle sims, maybe one less render pass here and there) It's just noticeable when you compare it directly to something like Prehistoric Planet that had a very solid production layout and a very dedicated team of artists and science consultants to each sequence.

[@gamesetlive]

We've missed you! Hope nothing too damaging was done and that we can get back into our normal swing of amazing content!

[@Gabriel87100]

it's always the criptobros

[@SevenZeroEleven]

The biggest damage is the fact that Corridor lost the "TheBatman'22 but it's Adam West" video to a copyright takedown. The Making-Of video on CorridorCrew is still there but the 3 minute video for the result is gone :(

[@SentinalSlice]

@@SevenZeroEleven the watch the Batman video in that video. So you can still watch it there.

[@SentinalSlice]

@@SevenZeroEleven also, that was gone before the hacking occurred.

[@ronaldojoe3011]

@@SentinalSlice wait... What hacking...?

[@Drinkyoghurt]

Jurassic World vs Prehistoric Planet is like Tony Hawk's Pro Skater vs Skate. Both are fun skating games, one is arcady and the other is a bit more realistic.

[@pandap4ntz]

Holy sh*t! TY so much for talking about Prehistoric Planet! I hadn't previously heard of it, and that is not the kinda show I want to miss out on! It looks so cool! Y'all have introduced me to so many movies and shows that I woulda otherwise never heard of. I can't thank y'all enough for that 🙏

[@MateusSilva-fm2zc]

IMO, from now on all the next paleo medias will have to look back at Prehistoric Planet to get inspired by its animation nuances, such as they did when Jurassic Park (1993) was released, 'cause UOW, that's so superb and realistic. As you said, it's not about the CGI quality, but its concept. I'd love to see u guys reacting about other scenes from that, and also to take a look at the 99 documentary "Walking With Dinosaurs", produced by BBC. It was the first time we saw great cgi dinosaurs out of the jurassic park franchise, and it was impressing, especially 'cause it was a 99 TV Show with a lot more dino time screen.

[@therealnuggetball]

Maybe balsy but i think Prshistoric Planet is batter that W. w. Dinosaurus

[@wowmedialtd]

It's worth saying that Walking with Dinosaurs was pretty groundbreaking as it was made on a relatively low budget by London VFX houses who were mainly working on TV level projects (back when TV was a very poor cousin to film). Even the 3D tracking was a new thing. Great kudos and respect to everyone who worked at Framestore back then.

[@JJ-xt2dq]

You dont have to add “IMO” if youre just parroting the opinion of corridor lmao

[@MateusSilva-fm2zc]

@@wowmedialtd what a great addition. Yeah, I've heard the budget of the whole series was $9.9 million, and even today when I watch the episodes, I get amazed by the animation principles they used, which aged pretty well to me. Framestroe indeed nailed that.

[@MoonProds]

hey you're my avatar twin

[@PaulGraydon]

If I'm seeing it correctly, it looks like the raptors feet motion is entirely divorced from their actual movement forwards. There's a bunch of places where their feet seem to be almost sliding forwards along the ground even as they're being placed down. Given those feet are pushing backwards to propel them forwards that looks super weird. Their progression forwards is just too smooth and seems almost like a fixed rate, too, for something propelling itself by running.

[@FablestoneSeries]

i don't know about it slipping, but you are right about a fixed rate. as i said elsewhere, even cheetahs don't sprint long distances before taking a sec to chill out. These raptors are somehow running across an entire city and out across the countryside without slowing down. Horses don't even do that. I don't think I took the time to realize how much this scene bothered me until CC started talking about it. trained navy seal attack dogs aren't even that single minded.

[@magnusbjorgvingumundsson7113]

The most challenging part of writing is giving every character in every scene wants, needs, and agency. I haven't seen this new Jurassic Park movie, so I don't know what that dinosaur wants with Chris Pratt. Does Chris have something the dinosaur wants or needs? Does the dinosaur have a vendetta against Chris Pratt? Both things seem unlikely. From what little I know about predators, they have one thing they want to do: Stay alive. They need to hunt to stay alive. It seems like a massive waste of energy to chase after a human on a motorcycle through the streets of Rome when a dinosaur could just eat any human in the city. A van crashes in that scene; presumably, there's a concussed human in the van. Very easy to eat a concussed human in an immobile van. Very difficult to eat a Chris Pratt on a motorcycle. The lack of believable agency for the dinosaurs is one reason the scene feels silly and unbelievable. But again, haven't seen the movie, so maybe it's all explained before the chase scene.

[@ethanbaer65]

Okay, I just have to ask, how have you guys not reacted to the Star Wars: The Old Republic animatics? Those are some of the coolest effects I've ever seen (not to mention some of the coolest lightsaber duels in history). Please react to that in one of your next VFX artists react videos! It would be awesome to see what you think of them.

[@oliverwallace5446]

This is literally the most interesting channel on here, I’ve learned so much watching you guys I remember I started watching on like the 13th cgi good vs bad and never missed a vid

[@shanomac]

We need a Corridor Reacts to their channel being back! Let's goooo

[@jordan2d]

Love the resident evil lab door sound effect transition guys!

[@reidpeterson9743]

I would love to see you guys react to the effects in the original Christopher Reece Superman movies. Although it’s clearly dated, there is some really good practical work and techniques they used to sell it. Has the same sort of mystique and grand feeling as the og Star Wars trilogy.

[@anyllmarkevich9048]

This was an amazing episode! Thank you so much! I'm studying for a career in cognitive biology, which is the study of animal minds: how they behave, how the interact, and how they adapt to their environment. Not surprisingly this means that I strongly prefer Prehistoric Planet's realism (that was an AWESOME show) to Jurassic Word's over the top dinosaurs. Having convincing animals makes an immediate connection between the viewer and the action on the scene: we are able to interpret the emotional lives of other creatures - even those that are vastly different from us mammals - and thereby understand and care about their motivation. To me this is what made Prehistoric Planet so powerful. We saw the plight of mother dinosaurs trying to protect their offspring and felt the love, we saw the competition for mates and understood the tenderness of pair bonding, we saw the chaos of hunting and understood the terror. Yes this is what we call "anthropomorphism", and while it must be used with extreme caution in scientific contexts (although it does have its place. I strongly suggest Wild Justice by Marc Bekoff if you want to know more about the cutting edge of cognitive science among animals), it is a really powerful tool in filmmaking. Lastly I want to touch on the subject of intelligence. It's easy to assume that the dinosaurs in Jurassic World are more intelligent because they are capable of navigating our human world with great skill. However, scientifically speaking, this could not be further from the truth. While dinosaurs did have relatively small brains, they are the direct ancestors of birds, which are a species group that is now recognized for extremely high levels of intelligence despite minuscule brains. Corvids (the family that includes crows, ravens, magpies, and jays) reach intelligence levels similar to many primates (although these measures are by nature anthropocentric and, thereby, also in some ways biased). Secondly, dinosaurs were highly adapted to their ecosystem. The behavior observed in Jurassic world is often very dangerous with little benefit. Wild predators are strategic in what prey they hunt as an difficult hunt might not be worth the effort. Predators, ranging from highly intelligent wolves and lions to spiders with brains too small to see, are never ruthless hunters. Their effort is always calculated against the benefit of success. I would argue that the behavior seen in Jurassic World signifies a lack of intelligence due to the reckless behavior of the dinosaurs, while Prehistoric Planet instead more accurately shows the subtlety that dinosaur minds were likely capable of. Prehistoric planet shows social skills, group coordination, problem solving, and parental care: all traits both seen in modern birds and which require significant intelligence. Let us not judge other creatures' intelligence on metrics that center on ridiculous standards of being able to navigate machineries and cities. Otherwise we are guilty of anthropocentrism: acting as if human intelligence is the gold standard for all other forms of intelligence. Intelligence should be adapted to a creature's way of life, and that is exactly what is brilliantly shown in Prehistoric Planet. We humans also have our own limitations and abilities dictated by the environment to which we are adapted. Yes, we are a highly *adaptable* species, but that does not make us a metric for measuring other intelligences. I hope you found some of this interesting! And thank you again for the marvelous episode!

[@BreakfastAtNoon]

The issue with the burning zombie? Is he looks like he's walking to the bar after the waitress brought him the wrong drink. It's not a zombie walk, it makes it 2000x worse.

[@majimasmajimemes1156]

That's what makes it hilarious though

[@MammalianCreature]

@@majimasmajimemes1156 Yeah, but it's probably not meant to be a comedy movie.

[@tonuahmed4227]

Older resident evil film franchises were so bad it was good...this new ones,straight bad...

[@majimasmajimemes1156]

@@MammalianCreature That scene is 100% intentional. Idk why people keep taking it seriously, OG Resident Evil was always silly.

[@___echo___]

@@majimasmajimemes1156 idk if I'd go as far as saying its intentional, maybe they could get away with doing it like that since the previous ones were so bad, but for any other movie it wouldn't have been acceptable

[@kreativflurrydesign]

GOBO'S!!!!! I've been wondering what this type of shadow technique is called. Thanks Wren 🧡

[@hawaiidispenser]

15:45 In order for that raptor to jump onto an airplane that has just taken off, it had to have been going slightly faster than the plane (which can only lift off when it hits around 90-100 mph minimum.) lol

[@Dr._Mantis_Toboggan_Md.]

The funniest thing about the last JW film, is the fact that they actually had scenes of dinosaurs acting like animals. There is an entire prologue, which they cut out of the final film, that shows dinosaurs, during the cretaceous period, acting like animals and it looks magnificient.

[@ExtremeMadnessX]

It was still mostly scientifically inaccurate.

[@Werkvuur]

@@ExtremeMadnessX Literally all of Jurassic Park/World is scientifically bullshit, lol. It doesn't matter.

[@knaughta.masso-kist5944]

@@ExtremeMadnessX I personally believe that this is why they cut it out. What's the point of showing dinosaurs in prehistoric times if it isn't even trying to be scientifically accurate?

[@crimsonamethyst7571]

@@ExtremeMadnessX - "🤓"

[@HawkinsFamily]

Its on the extended cut on dvd release. It got cut cos universal wanted the view lower. With it in , makes the rex giga stuff have more depth

[@Pandarah]

16:57 And for me, that's what the original 2 movies did. They were animals. Directed animals at times, sure, but still very much animals. It always felt like those "I can't believe we got that on tape!" moments you get with real animals. JP3 started to lose that a bit for me, and The JW series kept on losing more and more of it with every movie that came out.

[@keith6706]

The first movie had one shot that encapsulated it: the scene that had the T-Rex ambushing the Ornithomimus stampede. Once it takes one down and is about to start eating, you see, in the background, the other dinosaurs slowing down and some stop entirely...which is exactly what happens in many real situations with herd animals when a single predator makes a successful kill. They stop running because they don't have to any more. They "know" (on an instinctual level, anyway) that a successful predator isn't going to be going on a rampage chasing down and killing everything that moves once they've got their meal.

[@Chubbynoodle-cz2nt]

Personally i dont really care how realistic they are, its a movie, it should be fun

[@blind87us]

I love you guys, gladd to see you back

[@MenaCourtadeProductions]

Phil Tippett was the master that knew this years ago that's why jp 1 holds up thanks to his character animation for the raptors. 🙏🏽🎬

[@harrycoote3670]

I feel like the other problem with the raptors was the lack of consistency. They caught up with a motor bike but were outrun on foot in previous scenes. Makes you think something is off.

[@bigshid7097]

great breakdown on the direction VS. CGi at the end there, really insightful. that's why you guys are the best!

[@NASGilhooley]

Another entertaining episode guys. On the guy walking into the room on fire.. the reflection in the door glass appears to be showing the right arm that we can see also as opposed to the left arm that we can't see... unless he is swinging both of his arms in tandem as he walks :)

[@iambatsmurfette7194]

I'm glad to see you guys back at it! No janky hacker can stop the corridor crew!! 💪

[@CloneSpartan1998]

I don't know if y'all done it but can y'all do an animator's react to "Star Wars The Clone Wars, The Bad Batch, Rebels, & Star Wars Visions?" I found it very impressive and interesting on their progress over the years and how they also took a new direction regarding animation style.

[@FetusX1]

10:28 "Good Worm FX" - Clint 2022

[@StoryLoreStudio]

There were some scenes in Constantine you guys might want to check out. The VFX on the dragon breath fire in the beginning was pretty dope and it's some other visual effects in there I think you guys might want to check out. Awesome video like always.

[@willhuggins40]

How cool would it be to compare these 2022 Prehistoric Planet shots to the OG version and award-winning 1999 Walking with Dinosaurs series!? See how far the genre has come and compare the two approaches to ‘realistic’ dinosaurs!

[@gurrenrodan3801]

We got Prehistoric Planet LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!! I'm so delighted you guys were able to do some more dinosaur stuff; that breakdown of the steps needed to produce realistic anatomy & skin was quite insightful! If you'd like some more content on the subject of too much/too little creature work, the program 'Dinosaur Revolution/Dinotasia' could be an interesting choice in more stylized dino depictions; for that matter, it could be worthwhile to look more closely at how Jurassic Park's own dinosaurs have evolved from film to film.

[@stle319]

Glad to see the channel back!! hope nothing too serious was gone, great vid as always!

[@ZER0--]

Love this channel, and the crew.

[@tsancio]

The original Jurassic Park was such a critical success in part because dinosaurs had never been shown in such a creative practical + CGI way. They were also revealed slowly, just like the shark from Jaws. Nowadays, everybody knows you can render "realistic" dinosaurs, so every scene is about which character they are willing to sacrifice. Since you know the main group will survive and the villain will not, nothing is at stake.

[@mikefize2279]

Welcome back guys! And you NEED to do Carter (Netflix). It's such a beautiful clusterf**** of weird CGI.

[@YOEL_44]

Hey, I'm happy you got the channel back, would you mind giving us an update on how everything went and what you did to recover the channel?

[@devisvasco6259]

one of my favorite episodes, this large conversation about creatures creation was very interesting. I think CG shuld be in service of the story, not the other. The real question everyone should ask themselves isn't: "can i do this?", because now we can do everything we want, but "should i do this?"

[@zaymm10]

this was a fantastic episode!!

[@rchipman94]

Love when Clint is on the show! Amazing episode as always!

[@curtiswfranks]

Thank you for doing Prehistoric Planet! I look for more analysis of its effects!

[@AarreLisakki]

that Carnotaurus scene where it twirls its little hands in a mating display is incredibly cool, and is a reference to a piece of famous paleoart! In 2012, there was this highly influential art book called "All Yesterdays: Unique and Speculative Views of Dinosaurs and Other Prehistoric Animals" that was a critique of how dinosaurs tended to be designed up to then; rather conservative in terms of their soft tissues and behaviors etc to the point that they didn't feel like modern animals. And they gave ideas and concept art as to how this could be changed and feel more naturalistic- and it largely did change over the following decade in much of paleoart, though not in popular consciousness. And one of the coautors, vertebrate palaeontologist Darren Naish, was a "lead consultant for the depictions of prehistoric life in the series" on Prehistoric Planet. That scene was directly taken from one of the designs in that book, maybe toned down a little bit. The idea is that this animal clearly had merely vestigial arms, far far less usable than the famously small but actually perfectly functional ones on Tyrannosaurus rex. But, one thing these arms could still do is full range of motion around the shoulder joint, so what could these still be useful for? The idea they came up with was a mating display like the one you saw, inspired by birds of paradise. ^^ We're basically seeing this revolution in dinosaur depictions finally come to a fairly high-budget production, and it looks great!